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Erik and Don are joined by Giles to talk about getting those older games back into play.

In the review-a-palooza, Erik and Don review:

The Crazy Creatures of Dr. Gloom
Little Devils
Milestones
Carcassone



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When does a game become old, or at least when is it beneath the Cult of the New's notice?

What are your favorite games that are over 5 years old? (or over a year if you are new to the hobby)

How often do you think a genre defining game is actually replaced by a newer game?
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As the idiot who does the Cult of the Old segment on Dice Tower, my foolish male pride compels me to say that I actually went to Tom with the idea, and he liked it. It was before I started listening to you guys. 8P

I do like that you guys cover older games. It's just a major focus these days for everyone to cover 'new' (I know - preachin' to the choir), I thought some really neat older games that still deserve attention and could be enjoyed might get left behind. With so many seemingly gravitating towards our beloved hobby, there are plenty of older gems out there that are good games that go past the nostalgic joy we get while playing them. Indeed, some get replaced by better developed games, but methinks it would be a shame not to bring attention to some that may get left behind.

I try and do older games, but not necessarily stalwarts like Acquire most recognize. I try to pick up on games that are good but talked about lesser, or even miserable failures that had a core mechanic or two that are worth talking about. Not sure how often you guys listen to DT, but always open to suggestion.

btw, I did actually LOL when you guys talked about Nexus Ops pieces looking like candy spew. I am at work, so thanks! 8) Also like the idea of foam as the Monolith for visual reasons.
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The parlor-dexterity game Giles described sounds great. It took my American ears (and keyboard) a while to convert Finnish-Australian into a successful search, so I'll link it here in case anyone else is interested:

Outside the Scope of BGG - Klop/Mölkky Review
Wikipedia - Mölkky/Klop/Finska

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Folks, there is one among us who is often trod upon. I hope that you will find it in your heart to care for him.

Remember, Support the Sturm. He was once one of us.

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Youre not an Idiot Brian, I follow your segment, and when I started doing mine in a Spanish podcast One of the first ideas I had was exactly that: speaking of old games of at least never speak of a recent release.

Because yeah, Im part of the cult also. When I started playing regularly boardgames in 2008 I always looked for the hidden gems and old games.

At first I thought it was normal, there was a lot of stuff I missed. But as years passes im still more attracted to finding good old games than looking for the latest buzz in Essen.

I love that moment in which some game falls in your scope and since its old you have a lot of detailed reviews, and the game its analized in the long run not after playing 1-2 games.

Great episode Guys, since I love the theme. And also that you review always one old game in the reviewpalooza.

PD: And let me confess also that since English its not my natural language sometimes it was really really hard for me to understand Giles when he ran his segments , it needed my full attention. But this time, maybe for the conversation rhythm I had no mayor problem



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heymondo wrote:
As the idiot who does the Cult of the Old segment on Dice Tower, my foolish male pride compels me to say that I actually went to Tom with the idea, and he liked it. It was before I started listening to you guys. 8P


I didn't say idiot, did I? If so, I'm sorry, certainly didn't mean that.

It's a running joke between Don and I that the Dice Tower steals all our good stuff.

We started reviewing old games
We had Giles on
We did solo games
We had an Erik on our podcast

The list goes on. whistle
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Ayrk wrote:
I didn't say idiot, did I? If so, I'm sorry, certainly didn't mean that. It's a running joke between Don and I that the Dice Tower steals all our good stuff.


Erik, no you didn't say idiot. I was just having a little fun. It's all good. I have fun doing the segment, and just reassuring you I actually did come up with that one on my own sans prompting from Tom. Running joke and context understood. I had no negative feelings on this - towards you and Don or myself actually. Just being a tad silly. I might listen to your older episodes to see if we have any overlap. Take care.
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Games that are over 5 years old and still get play:
Arkham Horror--I only own two small box expansions and I still enjoy vanilla AH.
Pirate's Cove and El Grande are among my wife and kids' favorites and we play these often.
Memoir '44

Games I like, but need to play more:
The Great Space Race
BattleLore
My wife and I used to play a ton of Carcassonne: The Castle when we had only very small children.

I totally agree with Erik's assessment of often-played games. We only play about four different games in our weekly game group, and as such we get to socialize and have fun rather than stumble through a new game.
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Ayrk wrote:
heymondo wrote:
As the idiot who does the Cult of the Old segment on Dice Tower, my foolish male pride compels me to say that I actually went to Tom with the idea, and he liked it. It was before I started listening to you guys. 8P


I didn't say idiot, did I? If so, I'm sorry, certainly didn't mean that.

It's a running joke between Don and I that the Dice Tower steals all our good stuff.

We started reviewing old games
We had Giles on
We did solo games
We had an Erik on our podcast

The list goes on. whistle


Um, we stole Giles.
But I think they may have snatched outtakes. Which I stole from Jackie Chan.
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Good show, guys - loved the coverage of Carcassonne. I look forward to hearing some more oldies but goodies!

(Even if I disagree with Erik and think Hunters & Gatherers is inferior and annoying.)
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Loved the show. You guys have contributed to the renewal of my love for boards games, and to me really branching out. I've started to get my 9 and 7 year olds into gaming, as well a close female friend, and your shows are a great source of info on what to try with them. Specifically, I've already ordered Crazy Creatures as a stocking stuffer (fantastic idea) and after quitting on Carcassonne years ago because I couldn't figure out the scoring, I gave it another shot and have been playing all day. Completely addicted! meeple
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LurkingMeeple wrote:
The parlor-dexterity game Giles described sounds great. It took my American ears (and keyboard) a while to convert Finnish-Australian into a successful search, so I'll link it here in case anyone else is interested:

Outside the Scope of BGG - Klop/Mölkky Review
Wikipedia - Mölkky/Klop/Finska



That's the one! A fantastic game (IMO).

Cheers,

Giles.
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celacanto wrote:


PD: And let me confess also that since English its not my natural language sometimes it was really really hard for me to understand Giles when he ran his segments , it needed my full attention. But this time, maybe for the conversation rhythm I had no mayor problem





Ha! Don and Erik improve me no end.
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Hmm, to pick a few "golden oldies" off the top of my head:

Power Grid
Tigris & Euphrates
Ra
Amun-Re
Civilization
Merchant of Venus
Die Macher
Diplomacy
Puerto Rico
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Walsfeo wrote:
When does a game become old, or at least when is it beneath the Cult of the New's notice?

I consider a game old if it was first published Before Catan (BC). There are a few BC games that I'll occasionally suggest:
-Cosmic Encounter
-Acquire
-Can't Stop
-Werewolf
(although my first play of the last 2 was After Catan)
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Some of my older favourites (and subjectively for myself I judge this as being games that have been in my collection for a long time and which still hold a special place):

-Starfarers of Catan - just a fun rollicking game - my favourite incarnation of the Settlers!

-Castle - a Faidutti and Laget game - one of my all time favourites and a much underrated gem in my humble opinion. Love this game.

-Condottiere - the older Eurogames edition - wonderful art and a great game to boot (not a fan of the FFG edition, but love this one).

-Fairy Tale - A filler style card drafting game - my all-time favourite filler.

-Reef Encounter - the first game my wife bought, we don't play it often, but it's a great game.

-HeroQuest - An old style dungeon crawl that is plan and simple fun.



I'm sure there are many more - but these are some that still call to be pulled off the shelf and played!

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heymondo wrote:


btw, I did actually LOL when you guys talked about Nexus Ops pieces looking like candy spew. I am at work, so thanks! 8) Also like the idea of foam as the Monolith for visual reasons.


Hehehe - I've also seen people use clear plastic - like something from Litko...
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I put some more thoughts on the cult of the old - at least as I think of it - on my blog for those interested:

http://castlebymoonlight.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/cult-of-old...

Cheers,
Giles.
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Re: OBG 92: Cult of the Old
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LurkingMeeple wrote:
The parlor-dexterity game Giles described sounds great. It took my American ears (and keyboard) a while to convert Finnish-Australian into a successful search, so I'll link it here in case anyone else is interested:

Outside the Scope of BGG - Klop/Mölkky Review
Wikipedia - Mölkky/Klop/Finska



That's the one! A fantastic game (IMO).

Cheers,

Giles.


I actually saw this being played by some off-duty historical re-enactors (one dressed as a musketeer, the other dressed as a stage magician) in Blois, next to the Robert Houdin museum. Did my geek heart proud.
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