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Very true he is in business to make money. I have always told people the sole purpose of a business is to make money. My end however is the consumer and I don't want to lose the ability so save money. That is my objective. If he gets his way my out of pocket expense goes up. So by definition I must be opposed. Also I limits my choice of stores. Again I must be opposed. Just be cause he wants make more money that doesn't mean I want to give up more of mine. I want him to stop rocking the boat.
 
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For folks who want a lower price regardless of the quality of relative market value, that's fine. I'll just reiterate for clarity that we are choosing the prices for our own published games (through our Powered by Game Salute division), and each independent publishing studio that participates in Featured Fulfillment sets their own pricing for their games. There's no compunction to purchase any particular game, so we hope each individual will consider the value of each potential purchase and pick the games that will provide them with the more fun.

Merry Christmas to All!



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Game Salute wrote:
I'll try to explain more clearly. When a publisher knows that they will only receive base wholesale rate for every copy of the game sold, that means they need to increase the suggested retail price of the game (from which any discounted price to the end user is calculated) in order to end up with the cost they need. This means that, in simple terms, a game that would be listed at $50 could be $40 or $35 from the start. The publisher's actions take into account the standards currently in the industry, which causes the general price inflation I was referring to in this episode. It also contributes to the decrease in the value of the brands across the board, which in turn lessens the effects of discounted pricing - it becomes standard rather than special. It is expected and calculated into the original pricing, rather than an adjustment to market conditions.

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I understand, but I don't agree with that theory. If I am a publisher, and most of my games will be sold at wholesale to a retail outlet (of any kind), then my wholesale price will be calculated on my costs and profit. I don't care what the retailer does.

Even if my theory is wrong, and your theory is right, market forces will eventually balance the whole thing out again. What I see is that your business model takes advantage of the current market conditions to increase your profit on fewer sales. (And before anyone jumps, I didn't mean that pejoratively, I just couldn't think of another way to say it.)
 
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Great episode! I love learning about distribution and publishing of games. I hope you guys do more episodes like this one. I am not going to wade into the fray of online/local disputes.

However I love the inside information even if they are the opinion of one person. Owning game stores and publishing, fulfillment, distribution give Dan a great deal of knowledge and I loved it!

Please keep up the great info!
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I was listening to this episode today and I wanted to point out some pedantic details. The current preferred nomenclature is Looney Pyramids. I find the change challenging after a decade of calling them Icehouse Pyramids, but what can you do?

http://www.looneylabs.com/looney-pyramids

Secondly, the pink pyramids were originally sold as a single stash (15 pianos in a small box) with some of the proceeds going to breast cancer research. If I recall correctly, they were only available through the Looney Labs web site.

I'm glad you did a review of them. I personally feel like the pyramids are one of the more interesting but least appreciated game systems. I will often recommend them for people who want games that can travel well because they are compact and provide a lot of variety.

As far add the rest of this discussion goes, just vote with your dollars as you see fit. We aren't entitled to cheap games online and sellers aren't entitled to our money. To me, the magic of internet retail is more about access than price.
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Malachi wrote:
The current preferred nomenclature is Looney Pyramids. I find the change challenging after a decade of calling them Icehouse Pyramids, but what can you do?


Thanks for the clarification!
 
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Re: OBG 96: We Salute Games
Malachi wrote:
I was listening to this episode today and I wanted to point out some pedantic details. The current preferred nomenclature is Looney Pyramids. I find the change challenging after a decade of calling them Icehouse Pyramids, but what can you do?

http://www.looneylabs.com/looney-pyramids

Secondly, the pink pyramids were originally sold as a single stash (15 pianos in a small box) with some of the proceeds going to breast cancer research. If I recall correctly, they were only available through the Looney Labs web site.


To be insanely pedantic (pedantic squared?) I did see the pink pyramids for sale at my LGS in Houston so I don't think it was only a Looney website thing.

As for which side to pick, I quite agree with Frank's distillation of the situation. I believe my discomfort with the podcast (so far as I'm only halfway through it) is Dan's moralistic/ethical overtones (even though he does not choose to acknowledge it). I have had great experiences with Online Game Stores and now a local gamestore now that I've moved to Vegas. Before 99% of my purchases was through online but that has shifted now that I'm frequenting this local establishment. However, there are still many, many games that are only available online and I can get them more quickly and cheaper to boot! For example, my order of Niagra took 2 months to arrive to my FLGS (if I was not using their gaming space every week I would have never paid full price for a two month wait for this game).

In the end it boils down to what games they publish if they pop out a great game I have to get I'll buy it. The only thing is I might have bought one of their games on a flier if it was dirt cheap online, but usually those purchases don't work out, so their model is most likely saving me money!
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