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GÜOO First Impressions - Dynasties
Surfing the geek looking for a two player game, I’ve found that Dynasties, would be a pretty good choice. I downloaded the rules, read them and I decided to order it.

I’m really impressed how this game plays after two sessions but does it worth the money? Let’s find out.

COMPONENTS
Cheap starstargoostarstar Amazing


The game comes inside a little and standard quality box. 21 wooden cubes (WOW!! It has wooden cubes!!!! J) for each players (White for Sun Tzu, Black for King Shao), a deck of cards for each player, a sturdy game board and two pawns.

One of the pawns is supposed to be larger than the other (according to the rules), but I’ve found one of my pawns is, actually, DARKER than the other (one is Black, the other is White). Either way, they fill their purpose, but this could be a little confusing for new gamers.

The rulebook is one of the most mediocre rulebooks I’ve ever seen. I really didn’t like it at all. Not only it does not explain clearly what you have to do, but also it does not clarify enough some situations that might come into your first games. I seriously recommend looking for an answer in a place different than the rulebook… most likely you won’t find it there.

GAMEPLAY
Fiddly starstarstarstargoo Elegant


Dynasties is a two player area control game which also involves the popular hand management mechanic. The idea behind the rules, is that one of the players incarnates Sun Tzu, and the other makes the part of King Shao. Fighting to defend/conquer your territory, you battle through nine dynasties to achieve victory. At the end of the third, sixth and ninth dynasties, scoring is calculated and one of the pawns advances towards the player the same number of positions that equals the difference among the total of each player’s score. A little bit confusing? Not at all… each player just adds the value for each region he controls, and after both totals are calculated, the difference among them is the number of spaces the “victory pawn” advances toward the winning player (the one with the higher value). The game should end when one of the players reach “his side” with the “victory pawn”, or at the end of the ninth dynasty the player who has the “victory pawn” in his side, results the winner.

Each dynasty (which means in game terms each turn), simultaneous actions are performed by each player: Each player plays a card before one of the five regions declaring the action his army is going to execute there. Then, those cards are revealed one region at a time, and the war takes place for that region during current dynasty. Winner is declared and armies are placed.

I consider this game very elegant. Rules are simple but depth is huge! Mechanics are really enjoyable and fun.

WEIGHT
Very Light stargoostarstarstar Very Heavy


This game makes the perfect gateway game to Area Control + Hand Management mechanic. It plays under 45 minutes. It’s easy to learn getting some support from the forums, and the best of all, it’s easy to teach.

LUCK
No Luck stargoostarstarstar Pure Luck


In Dynasties, luck comes in form of cards. Actually luck is minimized by one of two factors: First, you peek at the two top cards of your deck, pick the one that you like, and put the other on the bottom of your deck. That “Sleight of Hand” (from Magic: The Gathering) ability lets you collect the best card for your next dynasty.

Second, and since both decks are equal (except for the General Cards), both players, eventually, will play the same cards. I know the time when you get some card is crucial to win a battle, but the war you’ve lost on the second dynasty, might be won on your sixth dynasty. It’s pure hand management, which made properly, minimizes luck and allows the players to plan ahead.

PLANNING
Pure Tactics starstarstargoostar Pure Strategy


Just like I said before, planning in this game comes in the form of Hand Management. Each card you have in your hand can (and will be) precious against your opponent at some point on the game. The question here is… when to play that card to maximize its effect? Since I’m a Magic: The Gathering player, this came easy for me to decide, but I admit how difficult it can be for other players not familiar with card games to play the proper cards at the precise moment. Either way, this game has more strategy than tactics inside, since actions take place simultaneously and you actually don’t “respond” to your opponent’s attacks, you just try to anticipate them.

INTERACTION
No Interaction starstarstarstargoo Lots of Interaction


Being a two player area control game, means a lot of interaction. When you attack a region, your opponent weakens or loses his position on that territory.

THEME
Abstract stargoostarstarstar Lots of Theme


Even if this game seems pretty good themed, it’s kind of abstract, at least for me. The theme is pasted right over the mechanics, and you can see the glue on the corners. Obviously, this not makes Dynasties a bad game. El Grande has the same issue and it’s one of the greatest games I’ve ever played. But if you are looking for a great themed experience, this game is not for you.

LEARNING CURVE
Easy To Learn goostarstarstarstar Hard To Learn


Despite the awful rulebook, this is as easy to learn as it gets for an area control game.

It plays under an hour, has high replyability value and you can play it the second time right after your first game, allowing the newer players to practice what they’ve learned.

The expert version of the game can be added from the beginning if both players are gamers, and can be added for the second game with non-gamers.


OVERALL
starstarstarstarstarstarstargoonostarnostar
8/10



I really consider this one as a great gateway game to area control + hand management mechanic (also used in games like El Grande + Expansions, Liberté, Twilight Struggle and so forth). It’s very easy to learn, has serious depth allowing you to learn more about the game after more plays, plays under an hour, and it’s one of the best TWO player fillers I’ve ever played. I highly recommend it for newer gamers to become familiar with popular mechanics, but also to heavy eurogamers to take a break between those Age of Steam + Die Macher games, while other players order some food.

Is it worth the money?... OF COURSE IT IS!

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After liking the first two games, I dropped it a bit the 3rd and 4th. I got blown out in a huge way and neither player saw exactly what the problem was. I suppoose this could be bad play or averages, but it was really frustrating. I dont mind losing but I like to understand why.
Still with a nice Chinese theme and simultaneous action selection it would be a buy for me.
Last edited on 2007-11-30 16:39:15 CST (Total Number of Edits: 1)
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denverarch wrote:
After liking the first two games, I dropped it a bit the 3rd and 4th. I got blown out in a huge way and neither player saw exactly what the problem was. I suppoose this could be bad play or averages, but it was really frustrating. I dont mind losing but I like to understand why.
Still with a nice Chinese theme and simultaneous action selection it would be a buy for me.


Really? :( I have to play more this game then. Since it was one of my First Impressions Review series, I think we both agree about this game :) (I've only played twice).
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Very nice review.
This is definitely one of my all-time favorite 2-player games.
I've never seen 2-player area control pulled of this smoothly or this quickly.
Good stuff!
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I would agree that this is one of the better 2-player games. It's fairly tense nearly all the time, there's a lot more subtlety to the choices than there initially appear to be, and it's very quick to play (while still satisfying).

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I love your review.

Can we consider this 2 player Condottiere? At least what Condo should have been with 2 players.

Aren't you rating the game too lightly? The deep strategy you claim would put this game one step heavier than you did.

What do you think about the general cards, useful or useless?

What do you think about the artwork? The board looks great but the cards are unfortunately very basic.


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-xXx- wrote:
I love your review. Can we consider this 2 player Condottiere? At least what Condo should have been with 2 players.


Thank you!
Unfortunately, I have not played Condottiere, so I can not compare them. What I must say that, this is the perfect Area Control/Hand Management game for two players.

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Aren't you rating the game too lightly? The deep strategy you claim would put this game one step heavier than you did.

I think you are right about this. It deserves a level higher on the GUOO scale. Obviously, since this is a first impression review, there are some metrics that might not be totally accurate, and more experienced players would not agree with them.

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What do you think about the general cards, useful or useless?

I've found those cards useless. They try to give some flavor to the game, failing on its purpose. I don't want to use them anymore, since they are not needed to enjoy the mechanics and the elegance of Dynasties.


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What do you think about the artwork? The board looks great but the cards are unfortunately very basic.

I do like the artwork. Its a little bit dry, but I really hate those games where gorgeous bits and excellent artwork are only pasted to the game, deceiving buyers into a THEMATIC experience.
Dry artwork for a dry theme. I give this game what it deserves. For me, the value of this game are its mechanics, fun factor and elegance, not the flavor.
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I do like the artwork. Its a little bit dry, but I really hate those games where gorgeous bits and excellent artwork are only pasted to the game, deceiving buyers into a THEMATIC experience.


At least they could have given each card a different picture.
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What I must say that, this is the perfect Area Control/Hand Management game for two players.


Unfortunately it has run out of stock. Any news for a reprint?

Last edited on 2007-12-06 16:59:56 CST (Total Number of Edits: 1)
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