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Daniel Coats
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Commands & Colors: Ancients » Forums » Reviews
Components Review
I'll throw in my two cents having received this (In its 2nd edition) as a Christmas present this year. I have opened up the box, applied the stickers to the blocks, and have given the rules a glance and I will give you my impressions.

The Blocks

These are of excellent quality. You must apply the stickers on both sides of the blocks, but the heft and look of these blocks are simply great. They certainly evoke an "ancient" feel. The sticker artwork is also superb. You get a lot for your money with the massive pile of unit block pieces you receive. starstarstar

The Box Itself

A very very very sturdy box. It looks like it could be load bearing in a pinch. My only complaint is that no organizer is included to separate the blocks once assembled. I would recommend buying some Plano 3449-85s to keep the units separated and ready to be put into action. As it is the game comes with one giant zip lock bag (mine was sliced open on arrival) which is basically useless. There is more than enough room for all the components. starstarhalfstar

The Rulebook

This is the best rulebook I have ever received in a boardgame. Everything is worded in a logical, coherent, and sequential manner with a normal font that is easy on the eyes. The diagrams depicting exactly how units may move and combat are all full color with no mess-no fuss. The rulebook is very easy to read and digest. It also explains each command card fully which was not necessary but very nice. Likewise the scenario booklet and the 2 reference sheets are also of high quality and are full color. You get lots of nice stuff to explain the game and ease you into its somewhat more complex rules (than Memoir). starstarstar

The Terrain Tiles

Also nice touch. The artwork on these terrain tiles really evoke the ancients setting even more on top of that desert board. These are thinner than the Memoir tiles and but still seem sturdy. starstarstar

The Dice

This was the second edition set. I have no complaints with these dice at all. You still must apply the stickers to them, but they seem like they have the proper heft that dice should have. Some complained about these dice, but perhaps this only applies to the 1st edition set. starstarstar

The Board

Grognards won't complain because they are used to the paper maps. Fans of Memoir will be dissapointed. The map is thicker paper than I was expecting but still doesn't seem to be appropriate unless you have some sort of plexiglass to keep it flat and protected. It has the six part fold and no matter what I try to do it will not keep flat on its own. It also has the corner that never seems to want to connect to the other side of the board leaving it sort of look like a Pacman chomping down on something. The artwork on the board is excellent, especially with the ancient warrior artwork bordering the hexes, but this is just not a board. Expect to need plexiglass in order for this to be useable.
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So there you have it. With otherwise great components my only complaints are the paper map and the lack of some organizer to keep the blocks separated. Expect to buy some plexiglass and some sort of organizer. Everything else looks, feels, and seems right and I am really looking forward to playing this!
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Nice review.

I believe expansion 2 or 3 comes with a mounted board? I'm not sure. Having been exposed to paper and cardstock maps early in my gaming career (ok so that was like 2-3 years ago) i've got no problem with using plexiglass over my maps. If it's a wargame from any company...then you need plexiglass for maximum playability.

I bet the map would be easier to lie flat if it wasn't one of GMT's deluxe maps :blush: My Downtown map is folded several times over, but since it's paper it lies fairly flat. Of course I still use plexi, but i thought it was a funny observation.
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Expansions 2 & 3 each come with 1/2 of the mounted Epic scenario board, designed to butt together on the short side for a massive CC:A game. layed out it's simply beautiful and I can't wait to set up one of the epic scenarios and have a go. I believe these mounted boards can be used with any of the normal sized scenarios but one side will sort of fade off without a border. These 2 expansions were the joy of my Christmas along with CC:MED

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Rather than getting multiple Plano boxes for each army, you can find a "bead box" in the hobby section of walmart for about $2. Each box has enough dividers and space to hold a complete army. However, you cannot get 2 of these back into the original game box-- which may be a problem. I found myself wanting to put everything (the different armies, maps, dice, cards, scenarios, etc.) from the original and expansion into a single container. The two new expansions have exceeded my original, so I have to seek something else-- but the 'bead boxes' per army are a lot of good use. You can put tags or print outs of the unit art or simply write in the sections what units go there-- with a little bit of organization (like, I go left to right-- lights, mediums, heavy-- foot high, cavalry low) you can find things much faster for setting up a battle.

Enjoy! I've played this more than everything else combined since it first came out.
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Having just received the game along with expansion #1, I would also like to comment.

I was surprised at how easy the stickering process went. A few minutes into it, I was thinking "it is ridiculous that I have to do this". 15 minutes later I was actually enjoying it. I sat in the living room and had the TV on and my laptop computer nearby. I casually chatted online and watched (mainly listened) to random TV shows. I was actually a little sad when I had the base game finished, so the next night I started the expansion. Four TV shows later (about 3 hours), I was done.

My block bag was also ripped open when I opened the box and blocks were everywhere. I am still on the fence about the Plano 3449. It does seem to be the best one to use (I bought several different models of Plano boxes and the 3449 is definitely the best), but the blocks are often difficult to get out. Having the blocks in seperate ziplock snack bags seems to be a viable alternative and didn't seem any slower to find the units you need. However, cleanup time is when the Plano boxes would be superior. I am used to using ziplocks with Battlelore, and they are cheaper than the boxes, so I may revert back to bags.

I was also surprised at how nice the dice were. With all the complaining and people desperately trying to get the Vallygames dice, I expected the included dice to be unusable. I have used the Valleygames dice and they are the average wooden dice that roll forever. The included dice are a little larger than normal and plastic, but solid and heavy. I have no problem with them and in fact think they are pretty cool. They are identical to the dice in Expansion #1.

The board is obviously the worst component. The horizontal gap in the middle and the "hills" along the folds are so annoying. Also, terrain slides very easily. I am going to look into poster frames, but I have played a few games on the bare cardboard and it isn't a major issue. It would be nice to have the board and terrain under the plastic to keep everything in place.
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I held out on buying this game for so long because of all the mixed information I heard on BGG about the components. Hopefully this review gives everyone a solid understanding of what to expect. I had a desert/winter board from M44 and I drew the flank lines in permanent marker where they should be on the CC:A map (for those who don't know the flanks are wider). Problem solved for now until I get one of the expansions with a board. I too bought a larger container to fit the entire game into, but it doesn't fit back inside the box.

Yeah, I really love the feel of the rest of the components. The dice look sleek and feel heavy like dice should.
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bactrian5 wrote:
Expansions 2 & 3 each come with 1/2 of the mounted Epic scenario board, designed to butt together on the short side for a massive CC:A game. layed out it's simply beautiful and I can't wait to set up one of the epic scenarios and have a go. I believe these mounted boards can be used with any of the normal sized scenarios but one side will sort of fade off without a border. These 2 expansions were the joy of my Christmas along with CC:MED

Tim


Actually the maps are 2 sided and only one side is missing the border. The other side is bordered all around.
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kduke wrote:
I found myself wanting to put everything (the different armies, maps, dice, cards, scenarios, etc.) from the original and expansion into a single container. The two new expansions have exceeded my original, so I have to seek something else


Try this Plano box #8600, which I use for Memoir '44:

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