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Matthew Harper
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Carcassonne - Count, King, and Cult » Forums » Reviews
A short review / quick thoughts
Preliminary impressions
Before everyone jumps on this expansion and complains that it's a pointless collection with five new tiles to entice you into buying 31 tiles you've already got, I'd like to remind you that not everyone has all those expansions, and some of them are rather hard to get hold of now. The fact that we're all obsessive geeks does not mean the expansion is bad simply because it is a compilation.

That said, this isn't the best possible compilation, and not only because it doesn't include the much sought-after Cathar set (it was never really likely to, as that set is owned by Spielbox. not HiG). It's a mixed bag, in the end: King and Scout is impossible to find, while The Count is still readily available in shops (at least in Germany). Also, while the duplicate tiles from K&S are fine, since they can just be mixed in with the usual tiles—as can those of The River II—the tiles from The Count are utterly useless if you've already got that expansion. There is no logical way to combine two copies of that set, while two having River II sets is hardly likely to be an issue for most people.

My verdict
A good expansion for newcomers, it would be fourth of the 'large' expansions that I'd recommend buying (after Inns, Traders, and Abbey, but before Princess and Tower), simply because I think the extra tiles—the river, the pig-herd, the King and the Robber Baron, and so on—are pretty fine game elements. If you're already got most of the expansions contained in here, then it's obviously one to get for the sake of completion.

For more info about the rules, I started a thread here: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/2034495#2034495

This review originally appeared at www.carcassonnecentral.com
Last edited on 2008-01-25 17:54:46 CST (Total Number of Edits: 1)
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mjharper wrote:
King and Scout is impossible to find, while The Count is still readily available in shops (at least in Germany).

For folks in the US, King & Scout, The Count, and River II are readily available. Regarding the new tiles, the front BGG page for this expansion relays word from RGG. It says Count, King, and Consort ...
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" ... will not be published in English as all the parts of it are already available or soon will be available separately.
Matthew Harper
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pastabatman wrote:
mjharper wrote:
King and Scout is impossible to find, while The Count is still readily available in shops (at least in Germany).

For folks in the US, King & Scout, The Count, and River II are readily available. Regarding the new tiles, the front BGG page for this expansion relays word from RGG. It says Count, King, and Consort ...
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" ... will not be published in English as all the parts of it are already available or soon will be available separately.

If that's the case, it will make a lot of people happy… so long as the new tiles are soon published separately.
Scott
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Problem is though, that the previously published mini-expansions don't have the handy separation symbols printed on the faces like the Big Box and A&M tiles do.
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Problem is though, that the previously published mini-expansions don't have the handy separation symbols printed on the faces like the Big Box and A&M tiles do.

True, and I really would prefer that they did. But I won't sweat it though, since it appears there are only five 'ordinary' tiles (from King & Scout) that aren't easily identifiable. I plan on just leaving them in the mix for the base game.
D Kumasawa
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What puzzles me about this expansion is the name. Where does "consort" come from? Shouldn't this expansion be called something like "Count, King and Heretics"? Am I missing something?
Monika
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"Konsorten" means more something like "gang". Mainly a group of followers or associates with bad intentions who follow a leader. It's very common in colloquial German when talking about a "leader" and his/her group especially if you don't agree with their point of view.

I think "Consorts" is a misleading translation in this context.

Hope this helps. :)
Matthew Harper
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Yeah, it really should be called 'King, Count and other Dudes.'
D Kumasawa
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emonika wrote:
"Konsorten" means more something like "gang". Mainly a group of followers or associates with bad intentions who follow a leader. It's very common in colloquial German when talking about a "leader" and his/her group especially if you don't agree with their point of view.

I think "Consorts" is a misleading translation in this context.

Hope this helps. :)


Thanks, Monika! That helps a lot! Does anyone know if "Consort" is the *official* English (mis)translation? Is there some way to get Rio Grande Games to change the name to something more logical before it is put into production here in the States? Or am I the only person who is bugged by this?
David Tegenfeldt
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Cant wait for riogrande to publish this i will get it even thou i have all the released small exps in it i will simply give those away to friends that play carc instead of a bottle of wine when im invited to parties at their place :)
D Kumasawa
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It looks like the US version will thankfully not be called "consorts"

see http://www.boardgamenews.com/index.php/boardgamenews/comment...

Cult, War and Creativity will include the five new cult tiles from the sixth expansion along with four new war tiles ("my own expansion,” writes Jay) and three black tiles (the creativity element).


I guess RGG is producing their own Cathars-like tiles since they could not get distribution rights to the original Spielbox version. I assume the rules will be different too.

Also, although the quote says "black" I would assume that the 3 "creativity" tiles will actually be blank.
D Kumasawa
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Forgot to mention that Cult, War and Creativity is due in April from RGG, while New World Carcassonne is due in May/June.

See http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/292490
Mike D
Regarding the Cathars: I was actually able to create these tiles rather easily using the Hunters & Gatherers tiles in the King and Scout set as my base. My home color printer produced nice copies of the Cathars tiles from the images available here at BGG. After some careful cutting and gluing I had the four tiles and they're all pretty nice. It put wasted tiles to good use since I don't have H&G and don't plan to buy it.
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