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David G. Cox Esq.
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War at Sea » Forums » Reviews
World War Two At Sea In 90 Minutes Flat!

War at Sea was first published in Australia by Jedko Games (1975). A second edition was published by Avalon Hill (1980). The L2 Design Group thought enough of the design to republish in towards the end of 2007.

Although the original Jedko rulebook was only 3 pages long (and small pages at that) Avalon Hill was able to expand the rulebook 6 pages in length (and larger pages as well). The L2 Design Group really outdid themselves by expanding the rulebook to 13 pages of rules. The game plays almost exactly the same in each of it’s three editions.

Why is it that a game that many consider a poor simulation and highly luck-based published by three different companies over a span of 32 years?

I can actually answer that one!

It is an extremely interesting and exciting game to play. It is a good simulation of some aspects of World War II. The balance is better than many people think. It is highly interactive, plays quickly and fills in 90 minutes very nicely.


In WAS the Allied forces have British, Russian and United States ships (there are variant rules that will also bring in the French Navy) – 27 ships at the start with another 19 to come in as reinforcements. The Axis start with 7 German ships and 10 Italian ships – they will get 6 ships as reinforcements.

The Atlantic, Baltic and Mediterranean are divided into sea zones. Generally, the Axis will get more points for controlling each area than the Allies. This means the Axis only need to control a small number of sea zones to win the game. The Allies need to use their superior force to deny the Axis control of just about every single sea zone on the map.

To play the game the Allied player places/moves his ships. The Axis player then will do the same. Players place Land Based Air units and the Axis player places his submarines. Battle takes place – first Submarines, then Air and then Ship-to-ship combat. In regards to Ship-to-ship combat, German ships generally have a technological advantage and in an equal combat you would expect the Germans to win.

Combat is resolved through the rolling of dice – I can’t believe that L2 has included just a single die in the box – they may as well have included no die at all. You really need at least a dozen dice to play this game. The ships with more guns roll more dice than ships with small guns. For each ‘6’ you roll another die to see how many hits you will score on an opposing ship. For each ‘5’ you will disable an enemy ship at send it to port.

Simulation – WAS is a good simulation of Grand Strategy in World War II. It focuses on the ‘big picture’. WAS is a poor simulation of ship to ship combat but I suspect that was not one of its design parameters. As the Allied player you have decide how you are going use your resources. Do you fight for the Mediterranean or do you concentrate against the Germans? Do you spread yourself thin everywhere, hoping to provoke battles or do you concentrate on a smaller number of sea zones so that you will have numerical superiority wherever a battle is commenced. As the Axis player you decide when to send your ships out and when you decide to keep them in port to conserve strength for the crucial battle at the crucial time in the war.

Luck – I believe the more dice you roll the more luck will even out.

Balance – I feel the game, between equally skilful players, is well balanced. If you feel otherwise the game plays quickly enough that you can play it twice (once each side) and then add the scores for the two games together.

Components – The L2 Design Group has a reputation for high quality components and WAS is no exception. There is a colourful rulebook with lots of illustrations and examples. You get two sheets of multi-colour and back-printed counters. There is a large, colourful map (although, to be hones, it really doesn’t want to lie flat and you should get a sheet of plexiglass to place over it) – this map is significantly larger than that in the previous editions and it is really nice to have plenty of space to resolve battles. 1 die previously commented on. It all comes in a sturdy and colourful box (although, to be honest, it could have been a lot smaller).

WAS is a great game with a massive amount of replayability, due to the large number of strategies and responses available to both players. The L2 Design Group has actually done more than simply republish the game. They have added to the game in the form of several optional rules for the French Navy, Admirals and mines in the English Channel.

Overall I am very impressed with WAS by L2. I have the Jedko and the Avalon Hill games and still really enjoy playing the L2 version, largely because of its attractive counters and maps. I suspect that the RRP of $60 is perhaps a little on the steep side, especially when you look at the amount of components you can get from other publishers for less money.

"Dead Men Tell No Tales":arrrh:
Last edited on 2008-02-06 01:43:59 CST (Total Number of Edits: 2)
Jim Marshall
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Yup, played a lot of games of the AH release 15-20 years ago.

Good and overlooked game, perhaps because of the lack of technical simulation detail. It probably sits better with today's Eurofied gaming audience than the hex'n'counter gamers of old who (I suspect) tended to look down on it as being a beginner's game. (Some saw the AH game complexity rating scale as a challenge - the higher you went, the more of a grognard you were! AH calling their simpler games 'Introductory' didn't help here....)

As I recall, clumsy Allied played is quickly punished - they need to carefully tighten the noose around Germany as the game progresses.

While it's descendant Victory in the Pacific did add more depth, I'd still be happy to play War at Sea today.
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Nice though this review may be, how about discussing the differences between the AH version of this and the L2 version? Is it worth the $$$? If not, why? If so, why? How about the Jedko version? What are the differences between it and the other two versions?
Andy Nunez
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The differences between the original Jedko WAS, the AH WAS and the L2 WAS are minimal. The game rules have been brushed up to be compatible with current WBC tournament interpretations. What is different in this version besides nice graphics, is the edition of some of the best variant rules from both Jedko's later edition of the game and the AH WAS2 kit, as well as two variant rules by Rob Beyma, no slouch at game design. My job was merely to put the package together in a readily accessible form and rework the surface raider rule a tad.

It is my dream to get the Pacific Theater done next, then a third game to link the two together, redoing the WAS map more like WAS2 and making it truly compatible with the Pacific maps. Art has agreed to this version and I am in the process of developing a new set of rules for the Pacific Theater that keep the flavor of VITP while addressing some play balance issues. I'd say if you have the second edition of AH WAS and keep up with WBC tournament conventions and your kit is in nice shape, no hurry, but if you want the variant counters for a twist on the standard game and didn't get the Jedko remake or the AH WAS2 kit (or the VAS game), then grab a copy of L2 and hope L2 stays afloat long enough for the next two installments.:)
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