if that's the case, I just might have to get an xbox

That is good news in a broader sense. It seems a shame to waste it on a game like ToI, but it is better than nothing I guess, bring on ASLSK I say

It's also going to be available on the playstation network as well. Lookin forward to it!

Should board games not just be for the board? I found that sometimes things should not go into "Video game" format, E.G. film tie in's :what:

Settler's of Catan and Carcassonne both translated brilliantly to the xbox, albeit the computer cheats at settlers.... damn that robber! So I think your opinion may be fine and dandy for you, I enjoy being able to play board games on my couch by myself etc....

Agreed! When you don't have players available, a good computer/video version of a game with suitable AI is great. What could be bad about having opponents available 24x7? Also, computer versions allow you to try out some different strategies which would perhaps not sit well with human opponents. If that weren't enough, the set up and break down of the games are totally eliminated. This seems especially nice for a game like TOI. Nothing can beat the real thing, but it sure is nice to have alternatives.

My wife and I have found the Xbox Live boardgame adaptations to be fantastic additions to our gaming library.

They are the perfect 2-player relaxation boardgame activities. We just wish there were more!

If ToI does make it onto XBL, I'll be snapping it up in no time!

(along with the Ticket to Ride expansions, and anything else that comes out!)

More Xbox Boardgames!

I know it does not matter in the end as companies will do what makes them money, but I personally have mixed feelings on this issue.

I played computer games for years (as still do with a few select titles), but I gave it up for a couple of reasons.

First, computer games always seemed to need patches and never receive the ongoing support they need. Once they have your money there is less incentive to keep updating the same game and costing the company more revenue. That is a nice way of saying I have been burned many times by companies that promised support but never delivered.

And now with the harsh and restrictive DRMs on games like Mass Effect or Spore (limit of 3 installs) it causes more concern.

Second, playing online with people you do not know was many times a problem. If someone was losing they simply drop out of a game, swearing, rudeness, etc.

Finally, computer/console games are so much less personal than board games where you are face to face with another person having fun.

I know it will not change things, but I left computer games for board games, and hope in the future we do not see a move away from cardboard to focus on xbox/PS3/Wii games. It is not too farfetched to think they would make xbox/PS3 only titles that will never see cardboard in the future.

That would be a sad day for me.

I think you are missing a couple key points.

1: There are also board games released with errors, and multiple versions where the older version becomes obsolete with new re-releases (IE: TE)

2: Xbox/Playstation games don't have DRM issues to deal with, and it seems the general movement in the PC industry is away from ultra-restrictive DRM, anyways I don't see how this issue pertains to the ToI XBox Live game or the other board game versions

3: Computer/Console version of board games arn't just there to play online. In fact I have never played Catan, Carc, or Lost Cities online. I use these versions to play single player against the computer, or for an ultra quick 2 player carc with my wife. The XBox fits these needs for me perfectly.

4: I actually came to boardgaming from the xbox versions of catan and carcassonne, they act as ambassodors of the hobby and I feel are healthy

5: You are absolutely correct in saying that they are not as social, which is why they will never completely take the place of board games. Your fear that there may be games never release in cardboard fashion has already been realized, but there is no lack of phenominal board games to chose from.

I make these points not to discredit your feelings, I certainly respect the way you feel and I cam over from video games as well, but is insted to maybe show how I feel that video games itterations of our favorate board games is nothing but a good thing, if only for the fact that I can now enjoy a single player Settler's of Catan in 15 minutes....

I will purchase every (good quality) board game released on XBox live just to support the movement! (I do not consider Monopoly or Sorry good games)

I don't really see this as much of a danger. I just don't think that the demand would be high enough for a board game which was never a board game and just turned up on the computer..if that makes sense. I guess you could argue that some real-time strategy games are, in essence, computerized board games. You collect resources, build and upgrade things, and often battle others. That is why there are a few board games that have been built off of successful RTS games. However, I don't see "board" games as they are traditionally thought of being developed solely on a computer system.

Playing ToI on the 360 or PS3 might lead to me buying the board version of the game. My boardgame friends are not the same as my videogame friends. I have not been able to find anyone playing ToI locally, and I'm on the fence about buying it an possibly having no one to play it with. The video game version could be enough to tip me into buying the tabletop version. I think video versions of games can help drive sales of the boardgame.

Can't come soon enough. I know if I bought this game I wouldn't be able to get enough plays in to justify the incredibly high purchase price. If it hits Xbox Live though, it will likely cost 10-15 dollars, with maybe 5-10 extra for any expansions. That ain't bad, plus it comes with the added perk of being able to find players on my schedule, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. No calling a whole list of friends and trying to work out when we'd all have time to set this up and play.

I hope a lot more games come to Live.

A personal wishlist:
-more Ticket to Ride expansions (they have 1910, America, and Europe now)
-Zombies!!! with expansions
-Memoir '44 with expansions (be nice to have the computer track all the rules)
-Heroscape with expansions
-Stratego, with the Fire/Ice variant
-Risk, with variants
-more Carcassonne expansions (they only have River and King now)
-Citadels with expansion
-Puerto Rico with expansion
-Battleship

I would buy all of those, and would play the heck out of them. I have Lost Cities, Catan, Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride, and Uno now, and love playing them.

what about releasing them on pc?doesnt anyone release games on pc anymore.

Is there any more info on this xbox live game? I haven't seen a thing on the xbox side.

A second that any more info on this one?

I am also looking for more info. If you refer to my post
Wings of War http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/374512

I have looked all over on the nets. Tried emailing developer (which bounced back no adressee) with no luck.

Haven't seen TOI, but Panzer Genral: Allied Assualt comes out in Sept.. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/panzergeneralallied...

Man, would I love TOI though.

TOI XBOX was Spring of 2009. That came and went. Have heard nothing since. Just like Memoir 44 Online. Over 2 years in development and nothing.

I said the same thing over in the Wings of War forum.

When Carc and Catan did gangbusters in XBLA a TON of properties got snatched up. I had to be "that guy" but 90% of these will never see the light of day. Zombies! and Wings of War are practically a year overdue, thier developers went out of business and it's very likely the lisencing deal has expired and the IP has gone back to the owner and needs to be sold again.

I know it sucks :( The fickle videogame public for the most part is already over digital board games. Heck, Lost Cities got delisted from XBLA!

I 2nd the motion that XBLA Carc and Catan got me into boardgames (at least partially).