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Jim K.
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Call for Die Macher players: moderated PBEM game
I would like to try something new and am offering to organize and run a game of Die Macher, right here in this forum on the 'geek.

I think this may be the first ever (attempt at a) PBEM game of Die Macher, so we will all be learning, to some extent. Some ground rules:

1. The game is open to anyone, though I do request that you have read and understand the rules. I can only manage running one game at this time, so any interested players beyond 5 will have to be satisfied observing and/or serve as backup players.

2. I'd like to keep to a reasonable pace, so please try to respond with your actions within ~48 hours (or otherwise as agreed to by the players). If you will be travelling or unable to reply for an extended period of time, no problem but please let us know. You can also provide proxy instructions indicating how I can act on your behalf while you are gone. I may also occasionally disappear for a few days here and there but will try to let everyone know.

3. Please commit to finishing out the game. If you disappear for more than a few days without notice, we will seek a replacement player or I will take some nominal action on your behalf.

4. If it's your turn and you can proceed without anything from me, please do so. Don't wait for me to prompt you if you're ready to go.

5. Die Macher has a mix of public and private information. I have created a neat spreadsheet to track the public information (example below) which I will post in the forum whenever there is a significant change in the game state. I will also email/geekmail each player their private information. Please keep track of your private information. I will periodically update it with additional emails, but because it is somewhat difficult to do for everyone all the time I request that you try to keep a record of that stuff on your own.

5a. Money will not be reported publically. It is of course possible that you could compute someone's cash holdings by reviewing past actions and recomputing, but I request that we make a gentlemen's agreement not to do so. Rely on memory and gut feel as you would in a face-to-face game. [alternately if all players agree we could make money public, but I think that hurts several parts of the game]

6. Post all public actions here; send private actions to me by email. For example, if you wish to play a shadow cabinet card, post publically that you are playing a card on a particular state and simultaneously email me privately to tell me which card you are playing. Or you can simply email me privately and I will post the public action on your behalf.

7. All discussion of the game must take place publically in this forum. No private emails/discussions between players about this game.

8. Rules: we will be using the Valley Games (3rd edition) rules but with a few variants. Seems like Die Macher has as many variants as Mornington Crescent, but these are what I plan on using:

8.1 We will use the 'shift left' variant for the National Board. When an opinion on the National Board is replaced, it is first removed, then the cards that were to its right are shifted left to fill any space vacated by the removed card, and finally the new opinion card is placed in the rightmost slot.

8.2 [this one I’m on the fence about and suggest this variant but can be talked out of it if the players wish]: We will use the 'flood' variant for the exchange pool. The exchange pool may contain more than 6 cards. Cards may enter the exchange pool in three ways: (1) when swapping an opinion due to media influence; (2) if opinion cards in a region are uncovered that are duplicates or opposites of a card already present on the region board, they go to the exchange pool; (3) when clearing the region board after the current election, remaining opinion cards go to the exchange pool.

9. This will be a friendly game. I will be the final authority on handling disputes, errors, etc. I’m happy to provide minor mulligans if someone makes a serious error that I or other players point out and recovery is not too disruptive. Generally, however, once the next player in turn has acted, it will be too late to change your prior action.

10. If you would like to play, please reply below. Once we get 5 players we will begin!

- Jim

Example game state display (I will help explain once we get started):

Sean Payne
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I would like to play. This would be my first game.
Breno K.
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I'm a somewhat experienced Die Macher player, but have no experience playing anything through a PBEM system... I want to participate!
Mark Gage
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I'd like to play. I've played a couple of FTF Die Macher games (which I think is my only 10).

I actually played in a PBEM of Die Macher last year. I must warn everyone that this is a formidible task -- there are many sequential operations in Die Macher and it requires many, many messages to complete a round. The game I played in was hosted here with what I thought were some pretty committed players, and an excellent moderator, but it died in Round 1 after about two months (!) of pretty active play. I'm not actually sure what happened to kill it, but died it did.

I'm not sure if this experience makes me a more attractive or a less attractive participant -- I'll leave that up to you. There might be a little info on the start of this game, which was called "Attack of the Square Tomatoes."

Anyway, really nice spreadsheet, and I'm up for the epic, long-lasting goodness that is Die Macher, but just be aware we all may need to name a successor player in our wills, as this may require more than one generation to complete.

Mark

Last edited on 2008-09-10 07:24:33 CST (Total Number of Edits: 1)
Jim K.
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Jim Kiraly has emailed me to request a spot as well.

So, we're up to 4 players. Let's wait another day or so to see if we can get a 5th.
C. Harley Davidson
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I am interested, but urge caution - I agree with what Mark stated above.

The thread for "Attack of the Square Tomatoes" is here: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/1459158
Jim K.
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Ah, now you've jogged my memory, I do remember the ill-fated "Attack of the Square Tomatoes" game. Hopefully we will be more successful. Having been in several PBEM 18xx and Here I Stand games that have lasted months, I'm in it for the long haul.

We have 5 victims players now, so we can get started! I will generate the initial situation and get this rolling later this evening.
Jim K.
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The game has started and will take place in this thread:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/339520

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