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Michel Boucher
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Thunder over the Volga
This design by Tetsuya Nakamura (A Victory Lost, Fire in the Sky) is a simpler Turning Point: Stalingrad, using essentially the same system, but with less counters and fewer zones.

The cover appropriately shows the Barmaley fountain as buildings behind it are in flames, in fact the picture here (from Wikipedia):



What is in the box



Opening the box, you see two red dice (a pro-Savyet bias, finally? :-) ), a rule book and a sealed deck of 55 cards (one is a proof of purchase).



The rule book is thin, 8 pages WITH illustrations and examples. Lifting it up, we see a single counter sheet, with counters which are larger than usual, 176 counters in all with 25 being markers, so 151 being combat units.



The map is divided into two halves, as it must rest lengthwise, representing as in TP:S, the west bank of the Volga on one side.

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Broadly speaking

The game is played in six turns, which, I suspected upon receiving it, is why MMP states that it is playable in 2-3 hours. One essential difference between this game and previous games of this system is that the cards give players choices, a novelty for this system that was in the past simply a Ugo-Igo in alternating impulses.

I played it twice at our recent game day. Players bid for the number of +3 zones the Savyet will hold at the end of the game. The player who bids the highest plays the Savyet. The first time, the Savyet won with exactly the bid that was made (3 zones). The second time, the German player won as the bid of three zones was not met.

How it went

The first game was a learning experience for myself and Cory, but we got at least 90% of the rules right. I think we fudged on the terrain protection for groups that had fired. At any rate, I saw early on that the Savyet should play a cunning game of withdrawal and consolidation, so other than Mamayev Kurgan (the holding of which gives the player an extra card...four is a nice thing on turn one), I considered all +1 and +2 areas to be expendable, but at a cost.

One way to maximize that cost is to spread out the 0 attack value units as much as possible, as they are excellent cannon fodder. Also use cards whenever possible although the Russian Ammo Shortage (odd name as not everybody on the Savyet side were actually Russian [1]) and the Sniper cards the German holds will quite often frustrate the best laid plans.

As the game advances, the defensive fire cards are more important to the Savyet player, providing a definite advantage as he can often mass more fire strength than the German player by moving around units arriving from the east shore of the Volga. The fact that they remain fresh (can fire two or even three times) is an immense help in achieving the objectives.

Dead Savyet units were piling up early on, but pretty soon (after turn 3), German units started joining them in greater numbers. I didn't do the math, but it was definitely a close run thing. Only on the last turn did Cory realize he wasn't going to make it. I must say that the Chuikov card saved my bacon, as it were, giving me four fresh full strength units in a crucial area that i might have lost otherwise.

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The second game, I stepped in for Andrew playing against Jack, around the end of turn 3. Andrew had been playing cautiously and probably had not tried to parcel out his losses.

This one the Savyet lost, but I could see the situation was fairly desperate as the units were fairly thinned out already. Still, even with such a handicap, it wasn't until turn 6 that the outcome was definitely written in stone.

Overall

A great little game from MMP. The simpler system really works well and the cards add a choice of actions even in the face of desperation. It is possible to pull a rabbit out of a hat with this one. Yes, there is a certain amount of luck, but given that there are only 27 cards to a side, the options are fairly limited, and the difference between the card sets reflects the differences between the combatants in the actual struggle to save the Motherland from the fascist hordes.

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[1] Zhukov wrote in his memoirs: "That was a long-awaited-for victory not only for the army but also for the whole of the Soviet people. Loyal sons of Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia, the Baltic states, the Caucasus, Kazakhstan and Central Asia displayed staunchness and heroism, they are worthy of their undying glory."
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Richard Savage
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You mean the Savyet Motherland, right? Although not all mothers were Savyets. ;)
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kemosavage wrote:
You mean the Savyet Motherland, right? Although not all mothers were Savyets. ;)


They were citizens of one or another of the republics of the Savyet Union. You may mean they were not communist, but you can't really know that. People in wartime tend to support their government wholeheartedly. To do otherwise would be viewed as treason, by any side.
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alsandor wrote:
Opening the box, you see two red dice (a pro-Savyet bias, finally? :-) )


They might not always be red. In two copies of Warriors of God, we got a bunch of red dice and the other had a bunch of white dice. I've a sneaking suspicion MMP have a lot of white and red dice from their ASL (SK) products...

Cheers,
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you see two red dice


Mine were white. Good begining game for games of it's type. I was a bit overwhelmed with Turning Point Stalingrad.
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Neither I, nor google, are familiar with the term "Savyet"

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sherron wrote:

I was a bit overwhelmed with Turning Point Stalingrad.


The layout of the rules leave something to be desired. But it is not a difficult game. I have a fondness for this as it was the game that got me restarted on the area-impulse system.
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sherron wrote:
Good beginning game for games of its type. I was a bit overwhelmed with Turning Point: Stalingrad.


I played Breakout: Normandy for the first time with a fellow who knew the game and taken in small chunks at the learning stages, the system really rocks. However, Storm Over Stalingrad is sufficiently different (for example the cards) that it may spark an interest in upgrading the old warhorses.
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grognard wrote:
The layout of the rules leave something to be desired. But it is not a difficult game.


Unfortunately, people who write rules are rarely expert at it. You know when rules are well written when you can drill down with a question to the right answer using the table of contents.

A particularly good set of rules, I have found, were those for The Burning Blue.

However, these were far from the worst I have seen.
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Windopaene wrote:
Neither I, nor google, are familiar with the term "Savyet"



You do realise that he means 'Soviet' but has distorted it, for humorous effect, right?
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. I have a fondness for this as it was the game that got me restarted on the area-impulse system.


I played TPS one time and was a bit green to figure out how the area impulse works. I finished my first game of SOS and I have a feel of how it works. I do like the game system and has sparked my interest in TPS again. I have a copy of Storm over Arnhem which was one of the games I kept when my friend Jim passed away last year. I want to try it too. SOS is a neat little game!
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LordStrabo wrote:
Windopaene wrote:
Neither I, nor google, are familiar with the term "Savyet"



You do realise that he means 'Soviet' but has distorted it, for humorous effect, right?


Humorous effect?

:devil:
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alsandor wrote:
LordStrabo wrote:
Windopaene wrote:
Neither I, nor google, are familiar with the term "Savyet"



You do realise that he means 'Soviet' but has distorted it, for humorous effect, right?


Humorous effect?

:devil:


Appreciate the review, but the deliberate misspelling of "Soviet" was very distracting. I had to reread it because the first time through was wondering why you were substituting foreign(?) words into an English review.
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Appreciate the review, but the deliberate misspelling of "Soviet" was very distracting.


I prefer the term "phonetically correct".

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I had to reread it because the first time through was wondering why you were substituting foreign(?) words into an English review.


Well, actually, I find that very odd because a. I didn't write it in cyrillic script, and b. it's the same word but closer to the proper pronunciation as you can hear in the following:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Ru-CCCP.o...

And don't even get me started on how to say Chernobyl properly or the Myanmar/Burma debacle :D

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Weirdly we noticed while playing that the map says 'Afghanistan Pakistan' on the bottom border.


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Weirdly we noticed while playing that the map says 'Afghanistan Pakistan' on the bottom border.


Actually, "Pakistan Afghanistan" (in cyrillic script), in the margin of the left-hand map, just below the Southern Ferry Landing.
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Some sort of coded communication from Stalin?

Anyways this game is a good one. Plays fast, easy to learn, and doesn't need any preparation.

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Thanks to your review, I bought SoS yesterday although I already own Turning Point Stalingrad.

Read the rules this morning over breakfast...and I want to start playing!!! The rules strike me as this game being simple yet, I can imagine, tense and fun. Unfortunatlely my gaming pals are not free...:(

Might give SoS a review and/or session report after I get playing on my SquarkBlog here : http://www.squarkgames.com/

BTW, my dice are white.
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Good review, though I am with the others. I understand "savyet" might be more phonetic, but the correct spelling in English is Soviet. I am a native German speaker and certain American spellings don't make sense to me, but still, I spell the word the way that it is dictated by the language being spoken.
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    I picked this up at Multi-Man's Winter Offensive convention last week. There were two copies available for play and they needed a sign-up sheet. That's pretty interesting considering so many there came for ASL. I bought my copy after watching for about ten minutes, and soon after the six remaining copies sold out. As near as I could tell the people that tried it bought it. That's pretty solid praise.

    I just finished reviewing the rules and it looks about as straightforward as a wargame can get. I look forward to finding a chump worthy opponent to try it with.

    Wouldn't Doytch be a closer approximation to the correct pronunciation of German?

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Patroclus
nice writeup! Though I must agree that your spelling of the word 'Soviet' is distracting. If you used it once or twice it would have been funny!
:)

I have put this game on my 'to buy' list! Thanks for your time in writing the review of SOS!
:)
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Patroclus wrote:
nice writeup! Though I must agree that your spelling of the word 'Soviet' is distracting. If you used it once or twice it would have been funny!


That's a good thing then that I used it nine times, because I did write it that way not to be funny but rather to be accurate.

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Great post!
:)
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Patroclus wrote:
alsandor wrote:
Patroclus wrote:
nice writeup! Though I must agree that your spelling of the word 'Soviet' is distracting. If you used it once or twice it would have been funny!


That's a good thing then that I used it nine times, because I did write it that way *not* to be funny but rather to be accurate.


You wrote it to be funny and accurate?
And you failed gloriously, my friend (at least on the funny bit for sure)!
:D


Sorry, that was typo. I have corrected it. As to accurate, let me state that your reliance on transplanted locals who use the spelling "Soyvet" (and who appear to be unsure) leaves me to wonder why you would accept their opinion over the evidence in your own ears (see link below) and which you have of course checked out already from its first posting above.

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I work with two women from Russia and IIBC they use the spelling "Soyvet" or "Sovyet" not "sayvet" anyone know for sure?
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It's neither. Listen to the pronunciation of the second C of CCCP (Savyetski). Please note it's pronounced closest to "a" as in "sad", not "a" as in "able", or "a" as in "about".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Ru-CCCP.o...

Patroclus
Great post!
:)
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