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Hey! That’s My Copy Of ‘Hey! That’s My Fish!’
Inside the Mayfair Offices:

“We’ve got ourself a new game to get out there.”

“What’s it about? Please tell me it’s about trading goods. I love trading goods.”

“It’s about penguins.”

“Trading penguins?”

“Penguins eating fish.”

“Which they then trade?”

“There’s no trading. We just need a title.”

“How about ‘Penguin’?”

“No, that’s too simple, it would make too much sense, everybody would see it coming a mile away.”

“How about ‘Penguins’ as in the plural of Penguin?”

“Better, but I’m not feeling it. We need something punchier. Something with exclamation marks. Something like ‘You! Over There! Give Me Back My Fish!’”

“It’s a bit long, how about ‘Woah! You Took My Fish Away!’”

“No. I’ve got it. ‘Hey! That’s My Fish!’”

“That’s perfect, because we all know that if penguins did have the ability to talk they would definitely yell at each other.”

“Thumbs up.”

“Did you just say ‘thumbs up’ out loud?”



Daffy titles aside what’s actually going on in H!TMF!?

The game consists of a set of 60 top quality hexes that make up the playing area. Each hex has either 1 fish, 2 fish or 3 fish on it. Shuffle those bad boys around and set them up in a grid made up of a row of eight, a row of seven, a row of eight, a row of seven and so on and so forth until you run out of hexes.



You are given a number of little wooden penguins which are also what we in the biz call ‘top notch’ (4 penguins in a 2 player game, 3 in a 3 player, 2 in a 4 player.) You place your penguins on a starting space, which can be any hex with only one fish on it.



On your turn move your penguin as far as you want in a straight line in any direction. You can’t move past another penguin and you can’t change direction during the move. Pick up the tile you were just on and THAT’S IT. The person who picks up the most fish wins.

I know this is a complaint that’s been levelled at Hey! before but quite seriously it takes as long to set up as it does to play. Which wouldn’t be a bad thing, but when the setting up also happens to be about as fun as the actual playing of the game, that’s when we hit troubled waters.



Yes, after the initial randomization of the tiles the game is “pure strategy” but no, that doesn’t translate to hours of fun. Minutes of fun, sure, but not hours.

Each game of Hey! That’s My … (damn that titles annoying to type a lot) … that I've played has lasted about five minutes. If you’re well aware of that fact going into the game then I think you’ll be okay with it. Don’t mistake my ‘five minutes’ as an exaggeration of a game that in real life takes about 15 or 20… no, it takes about five minutes to play and I’d rather spend my money on a longer game.



There’s nothing wrong with the game itself. The game works just fine, I’m not disputing that, I’m simply saying that it’s brief. If brief is your thing well then buy two tickets on the brief train cause you just bought yourself a house of brief… whatever that means. For me it was too brief, and that came as a bit of a surprise.

After reading a series of glowing reviews and seeing that it was ranked at 178 (one above Mu & More people! Mu! AND MORE! There’s not just Mu, there’s More than Mu.) this game was a must have for me, and I thought that when I opened up the box that I was going to be smacked upside the head with one heck of a game. Smacked upside the head I was not.



The components are swell, the game works but the whole thing whimpered out of the box rather than exploded and I’ve been left feeling that I’m missing out on something.

The game is a cinch to learn and to teach. It takes about six seconds. “You move your penguin in any direction and pick up the tile you were just on. You want more fish than me. GO!”

And again I have to stress that I don’t hate the game, I think it works quite well, I really like the components I just feel because of it’s short playing time that it lacks a bit of excitement and in the words of a William Shatner song from an album of his that I own, for some bizarre reason: “I can’t get behind that.”
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That's been everyone I've played with opinion as well - it's a great game, it's a lot of fun, it's super short... So short in fact, that it almost takes longer to get the game up than to play the game.

And that, in a nutshell, is the problem.
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Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)
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jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.
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tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)
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jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.
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tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)
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jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)


That's it! No more fish jokes!
I'm off for some wrestling, so I can try to pin Gwen.
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It's a great game to play with kids. My 6 yr old is starting to get cutthroat and planning moves ahead to drown my penguins.
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tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)


That's it! No more fish jokes!
I'm off for some wrestling, so I can try to pin Gwen.


Just don't knock her on her ice!
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jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)


That's it! No more fish jokes!
I'm off for some wrestling, so I can try to pin Gwen.


Just don't knock her on her ice!


Sure, I'll be nice and just go with the floe.
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tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)


That's it! No more fish jokes!
I'm off for some wrestling, so I can try to pin Gwen.


Just don't knock her on her ice!


Sure, I'll be nice and just go with the floe.


You really crack me up! This is really getting out of hand with all the to-and-froze.
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jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)


That's it! No more fish jokes!
I'm off for some wrestling, so I can try to pin Gwen.


Just don't knock her on her ice!


Sure, I'll be nice and just go with the floe.


You really crack me up! This is really getting out of hand with all the to-and-froze.


This is just the tip of the ice berg. There'll be waves of puns coming soon.
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Well, I could go on and on, but it's late, so I'm just going to go....

Nope, no pun here...

I LOVE puns...I worked with a fellow for 6 years who was a master of the art of puns, he could just spew them out without even thinking about it. Anyway, he bounced puns off me 5 days a week for 6 years, and I really grew to love puns....

Anyway, this thread is really getting long, especially the quote boxes, so I'm going to have to give in and retire. (It HAS been a goodyear though.)

Sorry, I probably should not have tread there, I'm sure something will stem from it. I'm just flat out tired.

:)
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Yeah, we need to keep things in balance.
Wheel talk at you later.






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tada wrote:
Yeah, we need to keep things in balance.
Wheel talk at you later.






:p





Touche!
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tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)


That's it! No more fish jokes!
I'm off for some wrestling, so I can try to pin Gwen.


Just don't knock her on her ice!


Sure, I'll be nice and just go with the floe.


You really crack me up! This is really getting out of hand with all the to-and-froze.


This is just the tip of the ice berg. There'll be waves of puns coming soon.


You guys are giving me a haddock. I might have to call the cods on you.
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Shadowen wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
tada wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Then why play it?

Oh, I see - just for the halibut.


(As always, just couldn't resist)

:)


I hear it scales well, also.

Sorry, I'm finished.


Pretty crappie if you ask me. :)


OK, I'm up to the gills with this comedy stuff.


Oh I don't know, I kind of find it a-luring myself, but then again, I may be crossing the line with that one. Perhaps this thread should be a-bait-ed, but then again, one good worm deserves another, so I could probably easily change my tuna.

Whew!

:)


That's it! No more fish jokes!
I'm off for some wrestling, so I can try to pin Gwen.


Just don't knock her on her ice!


Sure, I'll be nice and just go with the floe.


You really crack me up! This is really getting out of hand with all the to-and-froze.


This is just the tip of the ice berg. There'll be waves of puns coming soon.


You guys are giving me a haddock. I might have to call the cods on you.


Sounds like you've already played all your cods.

:)
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I sea this has sunk into puns...

But seriously, the persistent criticism that it "takes as long to set up as to play" is just bizarre to me, and I really can't imagine it being literally true. A lot of people are either really incompetently slow at laying out tiles, or really carelessly fast players. 5 minutes to play the game? Man. It's analogous to playing Chess or Go or any other strategy game on fast autopilot - it can be great fast crazy adrenalin fun, and if you enjoy it that way, cool, but it's also missing out on a lot of strategic depth and interesting decision-making.
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russ wrote:
I sea this has sunk into puns...

But seriously, the persistent criticism that it "takes as long to set up as to play" is just bizarre to me, and I really can't imagine it being literally true. A lot of people are either really incompetently slow at laying out tiles, or really carelessly fast players. 5 minutes to play the game? Man. It's analogous to playing Chess or Go or any other strategy game on fast autopilot - it can be great fast crazy adrenalin fun, and if you enjoy it that way, cool, but it's also missing out on a lot of strategic depth and interesting decision-making.


Wow, thank you. This is exactly what I wanted to say. And I'm glad I didn't give up on the thread during that overextended punny dialogue above.
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russ wrote:
I sea this has sunk into puns...

But seriously, the persistent criticism that it "takes as long to set up as to play" is just bizarre to me, and I really can't imagine it being literally true. A lot of people are either really incompetently slow at laying out tiles, or really carelessly fast players. 5 minutes to play the game? Man. It's analogous to playing Chess or Go or any other strategy game on fast autopilot - it can be great fast crazy adrenalin fun, and if you enjoy it that way, cool, but it's also missing out on a lot of strategic depth and interesting decision-making.


How long do your games take to play?

Cause I think for a game to take longer than five minutes you'd have to spending an awful lot of time thinking about your moves. I have the feeling if you're playing with one player who is taking seconds to make their next move that that will force others to take less time with their decisions.

I think the comparisons to Chess are a little off though, but then again I may just be missing all the strategic depth and decision making that Hey! That's My Fish! seems to offer.
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zeeb13 wrote:
How long do your games take to play?

I haven't formally measured but I would say more like 15 or 20 minutes typically, depending on how seriously we're playing. I can say with certainty that it's never taken more time to set up than to play!

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Cause I think for a game to take longer than five minutes you'd have to spending an awful lot of time thinking about your moves.

Thinking about the moves would be the main reason, yeah. :)

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I have the feeling if you're playing with one player who is taking seconds to make their next move that that will force others to take less time with their decisions.

Indeed, I think the amount of thought one puts into a game (any game, not just HTMF) is often affected by how the other player(s) are treating the game. If everyone else is playing very fast, the one slow person can feel implicit pressure to hurry up, even if no one explicitly complains. Similarly, if everyone else is making thoughtful careful moves, the player who's reacting on fast autopilot may realize that they're getting their ass kicked and decide to slow down and think a little more.

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I think the comparisons to Chess are a little off though, but then again I may just be missing all the strategic depth and decision making that Hey! That's My Fish! seems to offer.

I didn't mean to imply that it's as deep as Chess, just that like Chess, there really is some depth to it, and that if one player is making their moves in just a few seconds, they will lose to a player who takes a little more time to analyze the situation.

I have no idea actually how strategically deep HTMF is compared to Chess, or how easy it would be to make a good computer AI for it (one possible measure of how "strategically deep" a game is), but I can say that HTMF is a variation of Amazons, a game that's received a fair amount of analysis in the combinatorial game theory literature and which is not considered a trivial or easy game.
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Indeed, I think the amount of thought one puts into a game (any game, not just HTMF) is often affected by how the other player(s) are treating the game. If everyone else is playing very fast, the one slow person can feel implicit pressure to hurry up, even if no one explicitly complains. Similarly, if everyone else is making thoughtful careful moves, the player who's reacting on fast autopilot may realize that they're getting their ass kicked and decide to slow down and think a little more.


I think that this is the main difference I've come across when playing the game compared to the experience you've had. Having played with more non gamers they tend to spend less time thinking about their decisions.

I think that very much like your Chess comparison that a game of Chess against these same types of players would be less strategically involved, would take less time and would be ultimately less fulfilling.

I might just have to seek out some more hardcore gamers to get the full force of the Hey! TMF! experience.
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Wow, thank you. This is exactly what I wanted to say. And I'm glad I didn't give up on the thread during that overextended punny dialogue above.


I agree, Ian...I happen to think the setup time for H!TMF! is not that big a deal.

I apologize for the pun thing getting started...just couldn't help myself for continuing that thread...

As a matter of fact, I'm....having....a....hard....time....resisting....needling....you....about....it....even....now.

Get the point? (Yeah, I know, I'm just a knit-wit.)

:)
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jrbentley wrote:
I apologize for the pun thing getting started...just couldn't help myself for continuing that thread...

As a matter of fact, I'm....having....a....hard....time....resisting....needling....you....about....it....even....now.

Get the point? (Yeah, I know, I'm just a knit-wit.)

Sew just when the puns seemed clothed down successfully, the looming danger of warped jokes returns...
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