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Poll: What should be the next expansion...
1. What should be the next M44 expansion?
Jungle Wars (Like Winter Wars)
Desert Wars
Campaign book for Pacific Theater
Campaign book for Mediterranean Theater
Campaign book for both PT and MT
Air Rules 2.0
Poland Army Pack
Finland Army Pack
France Army Pack
Italian Army Pack
China Pack
Reinforcement Pack
3D Terrain Pack
Navy Pack (for like naval battles)
Pacific Battle Map
Release Battle Map miniatures pack
Overlord pack with real miniatures and board.
Master rule and scenario book
Breakthrough expansion with Breakthrough deck!
2. And the expansion after the previous?
Jungle Wars (Like Winter Wars)
Desert Wars
Campaign book for Pacific Theater
Campaign book for Mediterranean Theater
Campaign book for both PT and MT
Air Rules 2.0
Poland Army Pack
Finland Army Pack
France Army Pack
Italian Army Pack
China Pack
Reinforcement Pack
3D Terrain Pack
Navy Pack (for like naval battles)
Pacific Battle Map
Release Battle Map miniatures pack
Overlord pack with real miniatures and board.
Master rule and scenario book
Breakthrough expansion with Breakthrough deck!
3. What would be the four most important expansions you would like to see?
Jungle Wars (Like Winter Wars)
Desert Wars
Campaign book for Pacific Theater
Campaign book for Mediterranean Theater
Campaign book for both PT and MT
Air Rules 2.0
Poland Army Pack
Finland Army Pack
France Army Pack
Italian Army Pack
China Pack
Reinforcement Pack
3D Terrain Pack
Navy Pack (for like naval battles)
Pacific Battle Map
Release Battle Map miniatures pack
Overlord pack with real miniatures and board.
Master rule and scenario book
Breakthrough expansion with Breakthrough deck!
4. One a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being "a complete waste of time" and 10 being "I gotta have it now!", how you rate these expansion ideas?
  1 (waste) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (oh yeah!)
Jungle Wars (Like Winter Wars)
Desert Wars
Campaign book for Pacific Theater
Campaign book for Mediterranean Theater
Campaign book for both PT and MT
Air Rules 2.0
Poland Army Pack
Finland Army Pack
France Army Pack
Italian Army Pack
China Pack
Reinforcement Pack
3D Terrain Pack
Navy Pack (for like naval battles)
Pacific Battle Map
Release Battle Map miniatures pack
Overlord pack with real miniatures and board.
Master rule and scenario book
Breakthrough expansion with Breakthrough deck!
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That is an extensive list, but the two things I would MOST like to see aren't on there !

1. More unit variety and stats for existing armies. Minis, not chits.

2. Campaign book for Overlord format.
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philmcd wrote:
That is an extensive list, but the two things I would MOST like to see aren't on there !

1. More unit variety and stats for existing armies. Minis, not chits.

2. Campaign book for Overlord format.


I figured I'd miss something...but hey, I tried. The army packs and reinforcement pack kind of represent more unit variety.
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Yeah, to be honest, I didn't even really know what some of the choices implied. A summary description for each would be beneficial for me.
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Bob.Gibson wrote:
Yeah, to be honest, I didn't even really know what some of the choices implied. A summary description for each would be beneficial for me.


I tried to do a summary, but for some reason it didn't get posted when I made the polls.

Air Rules 2.0 - improved air rules since most people aren't satisfied with current rules.

Reinforcement pack - miniatures for all those badges, like heavy artillery, mobile artillery, mortars, heavy tanks, etc.

Desert Wars - special deck for desert fighting like Winter wars
Jungle Wars - special combat deck for Pacific fighting: amphibious assault, jungle fights, cave fighting, etc.

Release Battle map mini's - since the battle maps are going out of print, some of us would like to get the miniatures that came with the maps.

Master rule/scenarios - a book compiling all the rules (possibly faq) and scenarios to date.


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So many choices. I voted for the Jungle Wars and Desert Wars and PT & MT campaign books, and reinforcement pack. My preferences.

Maybe a reissue and redesign of the British figures for the Med and North Africa that really look like Brits would be in order to replace the originals with comical helmets looking nowhere near what the Brits used and more like ones seen in Beetle Baily cartoons. I resorted to getting Airfix 8th Army figures and use the M44 Brits as Italians for North Africa.



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I think the only plausible army packs that DoW could make are Italy and China. All the other countries (France, Poland, Finland) had very short-lived wars and it just wouldn't make much sense making troop packs for armies that lost so decisively and quickly. Italy stood its ground a bit longer and China is a theater of the war often overlooked.

I also think that instead of a "Desert Wars" expansion that would basically just add new combat cards, they should release a Combat Cards expansion that includes all the Winter CCs, Urban Warfare CCs, Desert CCs, and Jungle CCs. Jungle Wars as its own expansion would also be fun but not just because of the combat cards.

They are never going to release a "reinforcements" or Operation Overlord with miniatures set simply because the expansion would have to include figures for all armies (which means five sets right now) and I think DoW just prefers people to buy doubles of their army packs.

I definitely like your ideas for new Pacific Theater stuff and I can't deny the need for it, though I'm not sure how they'd do an ocean expansion. Something like that would require a new ocean board. I wouldn't put the idea past them, but I think that would make a better pseudo-spin off than an actual expansion since pretty much everything – Command Cards, "Troops", board, terrain – would have to be changed.
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philmcd wrote:
2. Campaign book for Overlord format.


Oh yeah - that one.
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Re: Next Expansion Poll
Looks like that question got answered. It's Campaign Book with PT and Breakthrough. Not bad at all. Too bad, no MT though, since everyone highly favored a campaign book with PT and MT in it. Half is not bad, but the bonus is a breakthrough campaign which sounds really sweet.
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There are quite a few Mediterranean scenarios available between Disaster at Dieppe and the Audie Murphy Campaign. Sure something more solid would be better, but it's a start. I'm personally happy with this new expansion because I still don't really want to go Overlord yet but Breakthrough I'll consider. The added bonus of there being a Invasion of Poland campaign and a Malay campaign in addition to island hopping certainly makes this book a must-buy for me. I've loved invasion of Poland scenarios since Panzer General (1).
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philmcd wrote:
That is an extensive list, but the two things I would MOST like to see aren't on there !

1. More unit variety and stats for existing armies. Minis, not chits.

2. Campaign book for Overlord format.


A Campaign Book for Overlord format, that would be awesome!!! We need more Overlord stuff! Instead we keep getting the breakthrough stuff. Overlord is so much better than two player. (IMO)
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Derek wrote:All the other countries (France, Poland, Finland) had very short-lived wars and it just wouldn't make much sense making troop packs for armies that lost so decisively and quickly



I`m sorry Derek but apparently you have no knowledge about Polish army and how+when they fought during Ward War 2.

For a quick links, and you can probably google-translate it please check for yourself and learn
http://wwii.pl/index.php?site=hpdstr
http://www.consuladopoloniasp.org.br/publicar/view-not-pl.ph...

simple Wiki should clear your mind as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_Wa...

one quote from the link above
"The Polish forces as a whole are considered to have been the 4th largest Allied army in Europe"

I would love to see Polish expansion for Memoir as the biggest resistance and the most specialized army during WW2 operations.

greets from Poland
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Nordiska wrote:
philmcd wrote:
That is an extensive list, but the two things I would MOST like to see aren't on there !

1. More unit variety and stats for existing armies. Minis, not chits.

2. Campaign book for Overlord format.


A Campaign Book for Overlord format, that would be awesome!!! We need more Overlord stuff! Instead we keep getting the breakthrough stuff. Overlord is so much better than two player. (IMO)


You're not wrong. Breakthrough is better than vanilla, but not a patch on Overlord format IMHO.

In any case, Overlord Format is superb played as 2 player... though it's very satisfying solo, 1v2 or any number up to 8. I'd hate to think people were passing on this format by thinking it NEEDS 8 players

The other plus is that latecomers can easily be slotted into a game in progress.
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skolo wrote:
"The Polish forces as a whole are considered to have been the 4th largest Allied army in Europe"

I would love to see Polish expansion for Memoir as the biggest resistance and the most specialized army during WW2 operations.


Granted, and I certainly meant no offense by my statements. After reviewing some of the scenarios that have released, I certainly think France could field an army expansion (in Blue, I'd imagine) since there are numerous scenarios involving their troops. It would even be fun to put them on the board with US and British troops. If they create just one more Allied army pack, I'd imagine it would be France.

Italy is an obvious given for the Axis. All the other Axis powers were fairly insignificant in the overall scheme of things, though some Romanians, Bulgarians and Hungarians may disagree (not too likely).

For a seventh army pack after those, though, I still don't see Poland. I think they'd do ANZAC or Canada, both of which are unlikely. While Poland certainly had a few fields of battle in the opening months of the war and definitely contributed troops (as did many other countries like Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, etc.) to the continuing effort, I don't feel they continued to be a dominant presence in the campaigns after 1939. On those same grounds, I'd argue a Belgian, Dutch, or Scandinavian army pack would also lack something. The scenarios should definitely be done, but perhaps using an already-established army expansion.

Edit: lol. Forgot my own earlier comments. China would also be a strong possibility for another Allied expansion before Poland, though I think France would come first since the game is heavily pro-Europe. That would make any other options for army packs as eighth army expansions, which I just don't see as likely.
 
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I do wonder at what point DoW will decide that they have taken Memoir as far as they can - and if they are close to that point now.

All good things come to an end and those Army packs are the most expensive thing to produce. I wouldn't be surprised if we simply see more Campaign Books and Breakthru/Overlord type products and then the line is capped.

Sounds odd coming from me I'm sure but there you go.

Of course that may all depend on how much income they can leverage from Memoir Online. If that goes well then they really form a symbiotic relationship. Online provides the cash flow to fund more Memoir expansions, which in turn offer more content for the Online service.
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Neil Thomson wrote:
Of course that may all depend on how much income they can leverage from Memoir Online. If that goes well then they really form a symbiotic relationship. Online provides the cash flow to fund more Memoir expansions, which in turn offer more content for the Online service.


Oh, seriously! But if they make even one scenario that is only available on Memoir '44 Online and is never released/is made available/can be used outside of their online platform, I'm going to be ticked. Right now, they don't even have Air Rules or recent expansions supported, but times may well change. If they add Overlord support, then they better find a way to make their maps publicly available. I don't want support for the Online world to start diminishing support for the physical world in regard to Memoir '44.
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Neil Thomson wrote:
Of course that may all depend on how much income they can leverage from Memoir Online. If that goes well then they really form a symbiotic relationship. Online provides the cash flow to fund more Memoir expansions, which in turn offer more content for the Online service.


Oh, seriously! But if they make even one scenario that is only available on Memoir '44 Online and is never released/is made available/can be used outside of their online platform, I'm going to be ticked. Right now, they don't even have Air Rules or recent expansions supported, but times may well change. If they add Overlord support, then they better find a way to make their maps publicly available. I don't want support for the Online world to start diminishing support for the physical world in regard to Memoir '44.


I don't think we will see that scenario play out. The only reason that they haven't got all their content online yet is due to testing and ensuring that the system is secure before adding in new functionality.

I only speak using some educated guessing...I don't know DoW's every move.
 
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