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Don Mitchell
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Basic, basic question, but I'm not too proud so here goes:

Is there a best way to shuffle sleeved cards?

I recently sleeved my Race for the Galaxy cards, but now I'm not convinced that they're being randomized thoroughly enough between games. Obviously (at least I "think" it's obvious) the traditional "riffle shuffle" can't be used with the sleeves in place.

Since having a truly randomized deck is more important to me than the life of the cards, I may have to de-sleeve them unless my fellow geeks can help with some good suggestions.

Thanks!
 
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A riffle shuffle works excellent, but not the kind most people do. A nice riffle shuffle involves barely lifting the cards and no bend takes place, so it is great with ALL cards, sleeved or not. It requires a very light touch. Anyone that has dabble in card magic can show you a proper riffle shuffle...you will never bend the cards again!!!
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Actually, PM me if you need details, I can send you a description from one of my card books
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Wow. That's impressive!

Ok... the cards will stay sleeved. Thank you guys for your input!
 
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I've sleeved the cards in 7 Wonders, San Juan, and Glory to Rome, and I notice they tend to stick a lot to each other....guess this can't be helped but it does affect shuffling as well as dealing the cards...
 
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Re: How do you shuffle sleeved cards?
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On the side, and slide them through with a relaxed hand so it falls into various places in the second part of the deck. Or exactly like the above vid.
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Sleeves don't make it harder to shuffle, they make it easier: See Byron Olson's video. The previous video is impressive to watch but doesn't show the technique well.
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Kempeth wrote:
Good sleeves don't make it harder to shuffle, they make it easier: See Byron Olson's video. The previous video is impressive to watch but doesn't show the technique well.
FTFY

For years I laughed at the idea that sleeving cards made it easier to shuffle. I had some sleeves - cheap ones - that I had bought for use in prototyping when I did not yet want to go to the bother of producing 'proper' cards. For shuffling purposes they were awful. Shuffling was much harder.

Then I bought some decent quality sleeves. And, lo and behold, shuffling by 'squishing' decks together not only works, but is much quicker and randomises better than old fashioned shuffling.
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AnnuverScotinExile wrote:
Kempeth wrote:
Good sleeves don't make it harder to shuffle, they make it easier: See Byron Olson's video. The previous video is impressive to watch but doesn't show the technique well.
FTFY

For years I laughed at the idea that sleeving cards made it easier to shuffle. I had some sleeves - cheap ones - that I had bought for use in prototyping when I did not yet want to go to the bother of producing 'proper' cards. For shuffling purposes they were awful. Shuffling was much harder.

Then I bought some decent quality sleeves. And, lo and behold, shuffling by 'squishing' decks together not only works, but is much quicker and randomises better than old fashioned shuffling.


Yeah only use penny sleeves for cards that are infrequently (or never) shuffled. They're a pig to work with.

Premiums are fine though. Once you get used to being stabbed by the sharp corners
 
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In my experience the main culprit of hard to shuffle (and breaking due to shuffleing as above) is the Ultra-Pro shit. Which by some reason I always end up with,until last friday at my FLGS where I got other sleeves for the FNM draft and they where awesome
 
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freddieyu wrote:
I've sleeved the cards in 7 Wonders, San Juan, and Glory to Rome, and I notice they tend to stick a lot to each other....guess this can't be helped but it does affect shuffling as well as dealing the cards...


Brand of sleeves affects this a lot, actually. As a seasoned Magic player, let me tell you that just about every brand of sleeves "feels" different: different levels of slippery/stickiness, tightness of fit, thickness, durability, sharpness of corners. Actually a surprisingly huge diversity of quality in that market.

OT: As said above, riffle shuffling and the good ol' mash-two-piles-of-cards-together shuffle (which actually works a lot better with sleeves) are both good solutions. If you have time on your hands, dealing into piles is often considered random enough as well.
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Take a pile of cards, and put one card on the table, then next near it, etc etc until you have 5 on table. Then put next one on first, next on second, etc, till the cards run out. Shuffle a bit. This works great.
 
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