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The Evolution of Deck Management in Card Driven Wargames

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The evolution of the Card Driven Wargame (CDG) continues.

I have played A Few Acres of Snow approximately ten times since I bought it about a week before the WBC. Through about seven of these games, I was beginning to feel that it could be one of my favorite games. Then I learned of the Killer Strategy (not too hard to stumble upon, mind you), and I must confess that trying to "unbreak" the game in the last few plays has been a bit of drudgery. But now Martin Wallace has released his rules changes and I am hopeful of this once again becoming a gem in my collection.

Even if the rules revisions cannot fix the game, it is a fascinating game in what it represents: the next stage of the evolution of the CDG. In particular, it marks a further evolution in a key aspect of CDGs, the ability to manage the deck from which you draw.

Contrary from what some people think, I actually do NOT like randomness in games. I'll post more on this at another time, but let's just say this for now: I like randomness only if it can be managed at some level.

In CDGs, this many times takes the form of deck management.

The first CDGs had very little of deck management. There was one deck, and both sides drew from it. In We the People (now Washington's War), each card was either an event or a number of operations points. In Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage, this evolved into cards that had both Ops points AND an event. But drawing from a common deck could very easily leave you with a session where your opponent received all of your key events.

A case in point would be Wilderness War from GMT Games. I play the tournament scenario, and, in this scenario, a key event is the "Highlanders" card which allows the British player to receive four more of the most powerful unit in the game, the Highlanders, along with two leaders (one of which is the ultra-poweful Wolfe). There are "smaller Highlanders" cards that allow the drawing of one of these units along with one of these leaders, but the "big Highlanders" card, as it has come to be called, can be a game changer. It is easy to imagine a scenario where this important card cycles through to the French player, he plays it for Operations, then, after a reshuffle, it again ends up with the French player. The odds are basically 50/50 each time, and, as we remember from that Stats class in college (the class designed for gamers), the odds that the French player is the only one to see the card is approximately (the random events causing a reshuffle affect this) 1 in 4. We can see this in Hannibal with the overly powerful Messenger Intercepted card, which allows you to steal an opponent's card and make it your own, giving you another event vs. ops choice, but, more importantly, giving you effectively two more action than your opponent. And after it is played, there is a 50/50 chance that the same player could get the same event back in his hand. The common deck needed some kind of improvement.

Paths of Glory greatly improved the ability to manage the chaos in your deck. It actually is fairly brilliant and offers a system that, while not used very often, is one that may not have been surpassed until A Few Acres of Snow (and that may be overstating it - Paths of Glory's system may actually be superior to that of A Few Acres when all is said and done).

With Paths of Gory, each side had his own deck. This considerably increased the likelihood that your events would come up (I would say that it meant seeing your events was a certainty, but I suppose with poor management, key events may never come up). And it meant that you would not end up with a handful of your opponent's events.

Your deck was also divided into sub-decks. You now had your own Mobilization deck, along with a Limited War and Total War deck. The importance of this cannot be overstated. This was a rather direct way to simulate the escalating resources along with the escalating obligations of an escalating war. The goal of most players was to get to Total War as fast as possible. This was where the really powerful events were, and the larger operations cards started to appear in the Limited War decks. But you had to survive and fight while navigating through the less powerful Mobilization deck.

Also, this game was the first to feature significant culling of the deck as a player option. A number of events, including reinforcement cards, were discarded upon use. Other 2 Ops events were removed from play after use. This led to the development of a tactic called "cleaning your deck," where you understood what events were important to play as events and what events it was important just to remove from your deck. If you were skillfull at this, you saw certain 3, 4, and 5 Ops cards again and again, and drag was not created in your hand by the continuous drawing of 2 Ops cards.

In a lot of ways, this marks the beginning of the deck-building game. It was rather simplistic, with a War Status value that increased as certain events were played. As this War Status hit certain levels, new cards were shuffled into your deck. Your deck became larger as the game continued. But you also thinned your deck whenever possible, and chose carefully what to play as events and what to play as Ops. So, in the end, the most effective deck was the thin one where all weak cards had been culled and only a series of strong cards that you kept re-drawing remained. That sounds awfully similar to deck-building to me.

I'm not sure that this deck management system has ever been surpassed. Heck, I would say it hasn't even been matched. People have tried and tried, but the fine balance of what each deck and sub-deck should have, along with the relative importance of each event, has been something of a nightmare, it seems. It has led to some interesting games, but many of them seem to have flaws that, for whatever reason, Paths of Glory has avoided.

After Paths of Glory, there was very little innovation. The most remarkable was the "split ops" system that Napoleonic Wars employed and which grew into the system used by the very successful Here I Stand. But very little has been done in regards to deck management. Twilight Struggle has an interesting shared deck system where there are sub-decks and where, when you receive your opponent's events, you use the Ops and your opponent gets the event. This leads to an interesting management strategy where you play your own events for Ops so that they will, at some point, end up in your opponent's hand where he will be forced to allow you to play your own event.

It should also be noted that, as far as deck management goes, The Hammer of the Scots system of Columbia Games actually takes it a step backwards. In their system, you have a small (25 card) shared deck with 5 or so events. Also, in this system, each card represents an operations value OR an event, not both. It goes back to the We The People system in many ways but leaves us even more in the throws of randomness where I could have, turn after turn, a fist full of events or a fist full of 1's, while my opponent in moving his armies all over the board. The game works, and works well, but it is in spite of its overly simplistic deck management system.

But I digress...

For me, the next interesting refinement in deck management in wargames is Martin Wallace's A Few Acres of Snow. I won't debate whether it is a wargame or not; I certainly enjoy it and find the conflict satisfying, which is enough for me. What I really find interesting, though, is the system of deck management that the game uses. Wallace's design really doesn't trace a direct lineage with the CDG system that Herman developed. It draws its inspiration and lineage from eurogame mechanics, in particular the "deck-building" mechanism used in a game like Dominion.

Wallace has each player start with a minimal deck. Every turn, each player has two actions, which may use some, all, or none of the cards in his hand. The player then replenishes the deck up to his hand of five. The cards in this very small deck appear again and again, but they are limited in possibility and in power.

But each player has two larger decks which can be added, piece by piece, into his personal playing deck. We are already beyond We the People at this point in that each player has his own two decks to draw from (along with a very small shared deck). Add to this the characteristics of the two decks that each player has. Each player has an "empire" deck, where such imperial resources as military units, native american recruits, and even a governor can be brought into your playing deck. As an action, you simply add one of these cards to your deck (sometimes paying a cost in gold).

The second deck is a deck of locations. As you build a settlement in a location, you gain that card's location card. Most cards will allow you the possibility of exploring a few new locations. Many times, these location cards will give you more resources. Sometimes, it may be a "bateau" symbol allowing you to populate further down the map's rivers. Sometimes, it may be a ship, giving you a number of possibilities including piracy. Sometimes, it might be a military unit. Many locations give you multiple options of how to use it in a particular turn.

Sometimes, the location card may not be useful at all.

Two interesting advancements are presented here. The first is the idea of choice. You are choosing, through settlement of a location or simply purchasing an empire card, what you are adding to your deck. Each choice defines your power, rather than having your power defined by the dictated next deck in line. Broadly speaking, each card you choose pushes you down a path of being an offensive military power, a Native American-allied raider, or an explorer and settler. You decide which military units you add to your deck, defensive units such as fortresses and militia or offensive units such as infantry.

And every choice you make causes your deck to become thicker. This is the second advancement. As your empire grows, if you're not careful, it will become bloated. You may end up having to add useless cards because the location had some other use for you (like a spot from which to launch raids). But while the location is useful, the card may becomes dross in your deck and hand. It models very nicely the effect of having a bloated, growing empire actually limit its own power through its inability to streamline operations. It also models nicely the escalation of war where, with enough escalation, your decisions become dictated by the resources that you have made available. You get into conflicts and situations that you cannot get out of because of the way that your empire expanded.

With these deck-building mechanics, A Few Acres of Snow represents the next logical step in the evolution of card driven wargames. The cards give the players the difficult choices we all crave. They also model very nicely the escalation of responsibility that comes along with an escalation of power. The idea of "a clean deck," discussed so often in Paths of Glory, is a key function in A Few Acres of Snow. Every card you add to your deck causes you to have to think about its thickness. More cards (the Governor or the Trader, for instance) will be added to your deck in order to streamline it. And, of course, each choice you make to streamline your deck involves taking an action in order to do so.

I cannot wait to see how else the deck-building idea can be incorporated into wargames. It means choice in how you build your power base and it means there is no one, in the end, to blame but yourself when your power structure becomes bloated and inefficient. A year ago, I could have written this blog entry and declared the Card Driven Wargame dead. Today, Martin Wallace and A Few Acres of Snow (with a nod to Dominion) have breathed new life and new possibilities into it.
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A New Way to Express Myself

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It is with mixed emotions that I start this blog. It means a transition for my podcast, Point 2 Point. From this point forward, P2P will be periodic news and commentary. This will be where I open up and talk about the things I love.

So -- why this transition? A few reasons:

1. P2P had run its course for me. I have said most of what I felt I needed to say. I would have liked to have performed some more interviews, but the coordination of people's schedules (especially mine) and the technological triangulation required for an interview really has become trying.

2. Is Point 2 Point really Point 2 Point without Scott? The short answer is no. I think I did a good job carrying the show through 2011 solo, but it really wasn't the same. Scott came over for our "Micropseudocon 2011," and it was great. He talked trash. He laughed at me (and with me). He won a game or two. He criticized a game and called it "unplayable" (in this case, Middle Earth Quest). He was, in short, everything that made me choose him as a co-host all those years ago. The banter was more fun to record and more fun to participate in than sitting and trying to keep some kind of solo, artificial "dialogue"going. So, I tried, but there really is no Point 2 Point without Scott.

3. I want to talk about things other than games. I love a number of things in my life, and I like to talk about them. And Point 2 Point was about wargames. Period. As it should have been. Here, people can read my thoughts, comment on them and respond to them (hopefully), and ignore the things that don't interest them. And I can express my views on all of the topics that interest me: wargames, science fiction and fantasy, teaching, writing, games other than wargames, role-playing, game design, the English Premier League team Arsenal, and the Virginia Tech Hokies, among other things. So, read what interests you (and, hopefully, a bit more), comment on it, and ignore the rest.

So, what will this blog be? It will be all of the above and more. It will not, at this point, be regular, but I foresee being able to write more than I was able to record (three kids, two of them teenagers -- need I say more?).
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Point 2 Point 49: Historicon, King Phillip's War, and the Games 100

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In this ultramegasupersized episode, Jason interviews two figures from Historicon. The first is Walt O'Hara, who was kind enough to extend the invite to Jason and who also just happens to be the man behind the "Historical Simulations" category of the annual Games 100 (from Games Magazine). The second is convention director Bob Giglio, who has a long history with miniatures wargaming and Historicon (among other cons). Jason gets to explore that other side of wargaming, miniatures wargaming, through these interviews. Chad weighs in on the "knife-fight" that is King Phillip's War. Jason also shares all the news that fit to -- okay, most of the news that's -- All right, honestly, he covers the stories he finds interesting. Packed in with this chock-full episode are Jason and Chad's takes on the upcoming WBC, and why Jason is calling himself "Open-Gaming Guy" this summer. And what is this fascination with Middle Earth Quest?
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Point 2 Point 48: Pseudocon 22 AAR and White Star Rising

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He did it! In his ongoing challenge to himself to publish 12 podcasts in 2011, Jason is back on track with his SECOND episode in June (just barely)! In this slightly truncated episode, Chad offers a review of Lock 'n Load's White Star Rising in his (newly named!) segment. Jason gives some wargaming news and responds to some feedback. He then discusses his recent gaming and the surprisingly limited wargaming at Pseudocon this year. He also offers his first impression of Runewars and dodges the question of "what is a wargame?" He also talks about Dominant Species and Middle Earth Quest, which he in no way considers wargames. Has the wargaming podcaster gone soft? Judge for yourself!


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Pseudocon is THIS weekend!

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Well, for those of you waiting for Episode 48 to come out, good news! I should have more material after this weekend!

Yep, it's time for that invasion of multiplayer gaming goodness that is known as Pseudocon. The few and the proud who have been able to make it to P-con know (and may have been disappointed to learn) that, honestly, it's more about the multiplayer than it is about the wargame. Lots of light gaming, some euros, more hybrids, but very few wargames actually make it through. For example, here is a rundown of what I hope to play this weekend:

Middle Earth Quest (fun, but by no means a wargame)
Dominant Species (not a wargame)
Runewars (not listed under wargames at BGG, but really is at heart a wargame, just a fantasy one - I know, I know the whole "is it a wargame?" is tiresome. I say, if it wants to be, let it in. And with a title like RuneWARS, I think it wants in!)
Battlestar Galactica (umm...again, not a wargame)

Oh well, maybe we'll work in a game of Napoleonic Wars, Struggle of Empires (our annual game, probably more hybrid than wargame) or some two player goodness.

Any way, raise a dicetower in our honor this weekend and pray for my wargaming soul.

I'm not too worried, I've been getting lots of gaming in lately, especially PBEM (although the end of school has considerably slowed down my pace). And you never know what the Pcon may bring.

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Point 2 Point 47: Wargame Rankings and Command and Colors: Napoleonics

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This episode finds another guest reviewer submitting a segment; Chad, better known as Grimnir, offers a discussion of the Command and Colors system as a whole, along with a review of Command and Colors: Napoleonics. Jason also works through some feedback and news and discusses the games he's been playing lately. Jason also discusses an interesting geeklist that changes the lens through which we look at wargame rankings. This inspires him to look at some other ways of looking at the data. Which list best represents the best in wargaming? Be sure to check out this month's poll and offer your opinion.

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Which game list discussed best represents the best in wargaming?
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a. Wargame rankings from BGG.
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b. David Dockter's "Death to the Cult of the New" Geeklist.
38.2% 13
c. Wargames ranked by "geek rating," includes expansions.
8.8% 3
d. Wargames ranked in the general BGG game list.
2.9% 1
Voters 34
This poll is now closed.   34 answers
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Closes: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:00 am
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Point 2 Point 45: Julius Caesar, Battleground, and Little Bighorn

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In this episode, Jason goes through some feedback, opens the package from Your Move Games, and focuses on a smaller publisher for his pre-order spotlight. He also has some wargaming news, good and bad, and goes through some feedback. Add to this the standard games played, poll results and other fun at the end of the episode, and you get the best two hours in wargaming. Other than gaming itself, of course.



Remember! Still looking for contest entries (contest extended to April 15 - get it done with your taxes).

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quick setup?
41.5% 22
quick cleanup?
3.8% 2
neither; it's the time in between setup and cleanup that counts.
54.7% 29
Voters 53
This poll is now closed.   53 answers
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No Point 2 Point for March??? Say it ain't so!

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Okay, it's not that bad. I have recorded everything, I just haven't had a chance to finish the editing.



So, it will be out by the end of the weekend (April 3 at the latest).



Been crazy busy this month between basketball season for my sons ending, along with winter soccer seasons, and then spring soccer starting up. Add to that some face to face gaming, without which there would be no podcast , and I haven't had much time to record and even less to edit.



So, be talking to you soon. (Specifically, by Sunday evening!)

By the way, this is no April Fool's joke, I had honestly forgotten about the "holiday" until the whole GeekDo thing.
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Point 2 Point 44: Components, Hellenes, and a CONTEST!

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Jason flies solo again, and can't seem to shut up! Over TWO hours in this solo ep. Jason addresses feedback where he announces the first ever CONTEST for P2P! Then he covers the last month (plus some) of news that fit to print--er--say. He also gives a rundown of things to consider when rating components, along with some "anchor" games that are examples of each "dice-level" rating. After this comes a full review of the GMT block game Hellenes. He also talks over some recent gaming (meeting New Years resolutions so far!), spotlights a pre-order from MMP (along with begging for some of his favorites to be pre-ordered) and announces a new geeklist and poll.

Enjoy! Two hours is a lot, but who can ever have enough P2P??

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How do you store YOUR game components?

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Plano 3701 boxes ONLY (or some other equivalent that you swear by), would prefer a vault
19.0% 16
Ziplock baggies, big and small!
60.7% 51
My 1985-era counter trays, available from Chessex
11.9% 10
Store components? The game comes in a box, don't it?
8.3% 7
Voters 84
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