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• TV commentator Mo Rocca took a trip to Gen Con, took a few swipes at gamers on the way – "...as many as 30,000 gamers crawl from their basements..." – interviewed Scott Nicholson and Mayfair Games' Robert Carty, and featured Piece o' Cake, Incan Gold, and other modern games for a six-minute segment on CBS News Sunday Morning in April 2011. (HT: David Knepper)

• Jeremy D. Salinas, aka Drakkenstrike, has posted his 100th "components breakdown" video, highlighting War of Honor, due out June 2011 from Alderac Entertainment. In honor of this milestone, Salinas is hoilding a contest on BGG for War of Honor and other Legend of the Five Rings material. Amazing attention to detail in this video!


• Designer Reiner Knizia has added a mobile gaming page to his website, which lists 20+ apps (!) currently available for the iOS, along with other digital versions of his designs.

• In other Knizia news, an April 7, 2011 tweet mentions that a lawsuit against one Michael Powers is headed to court, with the subject under dispute being an unauthorized iOS version of Knizia's Schotten-Totten called 3-Card Brigade Poker.

• On Go Forth and Game, Tom Gurganus interviews designer Seth Jaffee on what's coming from Tasty Minstrel Games (aside from Jaffee's own Eminent Domain), the ins-and-outs of game design, and more.

Cranio Creations has a downloadable map pack with a half-dozen new maps for Escape from the Aliens in Outer Space.

Stratus Games has released instructional videos for its two releases to date: Gold Mine (YouTube link) and Launch Pad (YouTube link). Very nice productions, and a good model for future releases from Stratus and other small publishers.

Issue 2011/2 of Spielbox will include a new game from Martin Wallace created exclusively for the magazine, with three more Wallace designs coming in the future.

• Issue #28 of the Z-Man Games newsletter (PDF) is available, with short write-ups on Dark Minions, Grimoire and Wok Star.

• On State of Play, Thomas L. MacDonald discusses who might best qualify as the patron saint of gaming.

• A roundtable discussion on Opinionated Gamers asks "Is This the Golden Age of Boardgaming?" I find the discussion puzzling as most of the participants debate the merits of releases in one calendar year or another and try to weigh them or rate them in some manner.

When I think about that question, I can relate to it only in personal terms and therefore find it meaningless. I think back fondly to the games that I played non-stop in my youth, mostly with my brother, games like Pay Day, Bermuda Triangle and Bonkers. I loved those years! So much fun and good memories. I think about being immersed in Magic: The Gathering for most of a decade and how enjoyable those years were in terms of endlessly cogitating on the game, with the actual playing of games being only one small aspect of Magic itself. I think about the games that my wife and I get hooked on, games like Familienbande and Qwirkle, and I'm delighted that something has grabbed the two of us and given us a pastime to share. I think about the games I'm obsessing over in present times – Innovation, 7 Wonders and Lords of Vegas – and how I can't wait to get them to the table once again.

Trying to compare the experiences I've had with these disparate titles over the decades seems meaningless. The experiences created via the various games is more valuable than the games themselves.
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• In other Knizia news, an April 7, 2011 tweet mentions that a lawsuit against one Michael Powers is headed to court, with the subject under dispute being an unauthorized iOS version of Knizia's Schotten-Totten called 3-Card Brigade Poker.

In what court, if I may ask? A UK or EU court will apply different law than a US court.

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"Is This the Golden Age of Boardgaming?"

Taking "Age" as more than one year, I'd say so, except for fans of the hyper-complex Magic Realm/StarForce 'Alpha Centauri': Interstellar Conflict in the 25th Century/... Avalon Hill/SPI (Simulations Publications, Inc.)/Yaquinto/... period. In the last decade, we've had more good simple and complex Euros than perhaps anyone but you can keep track of. Recently, I was introduced to Egizia, a very nice worker placement game I had missed for two years, despite having quite a number of gamers who bring new games to my gaming group. A rarely-attending member is working out which of half a dozen games to bring Saturday, none of which I've played. The phrase "Embarrassment of riches" comes to mind (which is really nice, because PC gaming has been awful in recent years, aside from lighter web games).
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A roundtable discussion on Opinionated Gamers asks "Is This the Golden Age of Boardgaming?" I find the discussion puzzling as most of the participants debate the merits of releases in one calendar year or another and try to weigh them or rate them in some manner.

When I think about that question, I can relate to it only in personal terms and therefore find it meaningless. I think back fondly to the games that I played non-stop in my youth, mostly with my brother, games like Pay Day, Bermuda Triangle and Bonkers. I loved those years! So much fun and good memories. I think about being immersed in Magic: The Gathering for most of a decade and how enjoyable those years were in terms of endlessly cogitating on the game, with the actual playing of games being only one small aspect of Magic itself. I think about the games that my wife and I get hooked on, games like Familienbande and Qwirkle, and I'm delighted that something has grabbed the two of us and given us a pastime to share. I think about the games I'm obsessing over in present times – Innovation, 7 Wonders and Lords of Vegas – and how I can't wait to get them to the table once again.

Trying to compare the experiences I've had with these disparate titles over the decades seems meaningless. The experiences created via the various games is more valuable than the games themselves.


I agree it's hard to "quantify" this on the individual level.
It might be more relevant to address a question like "What is/was the golden age of gaming" at the population level.
# of individuals gaming? (or maybe per capita)
# of games from which to choose?
Ease of access in which to obtain games?
Ease of access in which to find information about games?
# & type of alternatives to playing a game other than buying it? (obviously friend's copy, but also there are some innovative alternatives that are spreading such as boardgames cafes, and rental programs)
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The CBS news segment was done very well. Scott N. did a nice job. Mo Rocca was pretty funny...sounds like my type of guy.

As for the crack about GenCon "...as many as 30,000 gamers crawl from their basements..." Maybe you all should buy homes without basements?

That'll show 'em. cool
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I actually saw Mo Rocca playing Bezzerwizzer there. I watched that part of the segment to see if I was in the background, but alas, I wasn't in the shot.
 
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The CBS news segment was done very well. Scott N. did a nice job. Mo Rocca was pretty funny...sounds like my type of guy.

As for the crack about GenCon "...as many as 30,000 gamers crawl from their basements..." Maybe you all should buy homes without basements?

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The difficulty is that much of the discussion wasn't around trying to answer the headline question. (My comments certainly weren't trying to answer that; I was simply responding to comments Patrick had made, because my experience didn't match with his.)

The only points I was trying to make were (1) that I had better success with the games of the 90s than with the games of the 00s, and (2) that the higher BGG rankings for more recent games is not proof (or necessarily even an indication) that the more recent games are better. I think you can make an argument that this is the golden age, in terms of the number of games being released and the number of different design philosophies being employed in games readily available to the hobbyist. If you have other standards for a golden age, you might come to a different conclusion.
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A roundtable discussion on Opinionated Gamers asks "Is This the Golden Age of Boardgaming?" I find the discussion puzzling as most of the participants debate the merits of releases in one calendar year or another and try to weigh them or rate them in some manner.

My point was that yes, we're in a Golden Age, but that we've been in one for about a dozen years or so. Starting in 1999, the overall output of games that interest me has been at a consistently high level. In fact, the last three years of that period are probably worse than the first three years. It's not enough for me to say that this golden period is ending, but neither do I see any compelling argument that, say, the most recent 5 years are better than the first 5 years of the century. I can't speak for gamers with other tastes, but for fans of eurogames and similar designs, I would call this a 12 year long (and counting) Golden Age, which is pretty fantastic stuff.

And for me, there's a clear demarcation before and after 1999. I've been a gamer literally all my life, going back to when I was 8 years old or so. Much of that time has been spent searching for good games in all corners of the world. And while I enjoyed my gaming prior to '99, there was the nagging feeling that there had to be something better. Once challenging eurogaming hit its stride, though, that feeling disappeared. For me, the Good Old Days are definitely now, but happily, I've been feeling that way for quite a while. Ain't life grand?
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Ha! You said BOLDY and you put it in bold!

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Ha! You said BOLDY and you put it in bold!

HA!


ooh excited for this one!
 
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Cranio also recently released a video showing their upcoming Dungeon Fighter in action:

http://www.trictrac.tv/?video=360

I found it particularly amusing that the result is an Italian designer, explaining the game in English via a French translator.
 
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In what court, if I may ask? A UK or EU court will apply different law than a US court.


Yes, please say more. Can you give us a link? A few details? My brief internet search came up with nothing.
 
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In what court, if I may ask? A UK or EU court will apply different law than a US court.


Yes, please say more. Can you give us a link? A few details? My brief internet search came up with nothing.


A PACER search of the U.S. federal courts (and federal court is where this this would be if they are claiming copyright) reveals no currently-pending cases with a party name of Knizia.

Maybe the paperwork hasn't been filed yet, or it hasn't shown up in PACER. But as of now, there's nothing listed in the U.S.

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A PACER search of the U.S. federal courts (and federal court is where this this would be if they are claiming copyright) reveals no currently-pending cases with a party name of Knizia.

Maybe the paperwork hasn't been filed yet, or it hasn't shown up in PACER. But as of now, there's nothing listed in the U.S.

I would be very interested to hear what in fact he is claiming. Seems to me the only thing he could claim was patent, that is if he owned a patent on the mechanics of Schotten-Totten. Does he own patents on his games?
 
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I rather liked the CBS news segment, and I find that if that were typical coverage I would be much happier. I thought it was very kind, and Mo seemed fairly interested.
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In what court, if I may ask? A UK or EU court will apply different law than a US court.


Yes, please say more. Can you give us a link? A few details? My brief internet search came up with nothing.


A PACER search of the U.S. federal courts (and federal court is where this this would be if they are claiming copyright) reveals no currently-pending cases with a party name of Knizia.

Maybe the paperwork hasn't been filed yet, or it hasn't shown up in PACER. But as of now, there's nothing listed in the U.S.

- Neil Wehneman


Well, Knizia, of course, may not be the plaintiff--especially if the suit is based on game artwork. Or it may not be in U.S. courts. The tweet says the case "is going to the courts today." Which to me suggests an appearance of some type, not just a filing.
 
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Does he own patents on his games?


I don't see him in patent search, but arimaa is there... along with a bunch of other games.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=swt3AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstr...
 
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Knizia was born in Germany and lives in the UK. I'm unsure what his citizenship is. Some European law broadens copyright quite a lot, giving artists "moral rights" and "authors' rights". The US rule of thumb that you cannot protect a game without a patent might not work wherever Knizia is suing.
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I found the golden age of boardgaming question interesting though not so clearly defined. It has a completely different meaning depending on who you are referring to. For a newcomer to the world of gaming its hard to argue that right now is the golden age with so many fabulous games to choose from as a result of the refining, copying and modifying of great ideas that have been extrapolated positively on the whole, on the other hand those people who were around in the early 90s got to see the whole boom that came on the back of the big euro games and to them, it must be hard not to think of those days as golden, and a lot of modern games now as derivations of those early innovations. Both views are true, but who are you asking? Is it not a bit like music. It must have been cool to be around in the 50s and especially 60s when popular music and radio completely revolutionised what we mean by popular music, and that is an evolutionary golden age, but you would be hard pressed not to say that people coming later didnt have a more golden time with the vast array of choices that came about as the explosion in popular music took off. Of course a lot of todays music is crap but thats mainly the mass market stuff (sound familiar?). And of course we all have our favourite era, usually the one where music became relevant and exciting to us. Probably not too different to games either.
 
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I found the golden age of boardgaming question interesting though not so clearly defined.


To be fair, as Joe Huber pointed out above, the title and its overarching question were added after the discussion to encapsulate the general topic. The writers were not presented with the question first, then asked to answer the question.
 
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Cranio also recently released a video showing their upcoming Dungeon Fighter in action:

http://www.trictrac.tv/?video=360

I found it particularly amusing that the result is an Italian designer, explaining the game in English via a French translator.


Thanks, Thomas! Yes, I have a link to this in my next new game round-up, being posted Sat. April 9.

One of my favorite memories from Spiel 2004 is learning Fairy Tale from a German, who was teaching me and three French gamers in English (with one French player translating for the other two) while asking questions of the designer in Japanese. Jeux sur un Plateau has recorded a number of game preview videos in English, mostly because a French interviewer was questioning a German publisher/designer at Nuremberg, with English being the best second-choice language for both of them.
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• In other Knizia news, an April 7, 2011 tweet mentions that a lawsuit against one Michael Powers is headed to court, with the subject under dispute being an unauthorized iOS version of Knizia's Schotten-Totten called 3-Card Brigade Poker.

In what court, if I may ask? A UK or EU court will apply different law than a US court.


Yes, please say more. Can you give us a link? A few details? My brief internet search came up with nothing.


A PACER search of the U.S. federal courts (and federal court is where this this would be if they are claiming copyright) reveals no currently-pending cases with a party name of Knizia.

Maybe the paperwork hasn't been filed yet, or it hasn't shown up in PACER. But as of now, there's nothing listed in the U.S.

- Neil Wehneman


Well, Knizia, of course, may not be the plaintiff--especially if the suit is based on game artwork. Or it may not be in U.S. courts. The tweet says the case "is going to the courts today." Which to me suggests an appearance of some type, not just a filing.


An appearance is an attorney's contact information being submitted to the court as he or she "appears" for the client. In such a case the original complaint has already been filed, and if Knizia personally is a plaintiff, his name will be in the caption and would have come up on the PACER search.

Perhaps you meant "hearing" rather than an appearance? However, the effect is the same: you won't get a hearing without a complaint.

I absolutely agree that this may be outside the U.S., in which case I'd have to dig quite a bit to find out if suit has been filed, and I'll leave that to those in the EU.

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A PACER search of the U.S. federal courts (and federal court is where this this would be if they are claiming copyright) reveals no currently-pending cases with a party name of Knizia.

Maybe the paperwork hasn't been filed yet, or it hasn't shown up in PACER. But as of now, there's nothing listed in the U.S.

I would be very interested to hear what in fact he is claiming. Seems to me the only thing he could claim was patent, that is if he owned a patent on the mechanics of Schotten-Totten. Does he own patents on his games?


Gabe:

Just because a plaintiff will almost certainly lose on a claim, doesn't mean they can't file the claim.

I have no knowledge of Knizia holding a U.S. game patent. He's listed as a reference in someone else's patent (i.e. Knizia's work described the relevant state of the art), but I didn't see any that were issued to Knizia.

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• In other Knizia news, an April 7, 2011 tweet mentions that a lawsuit against one Michael Powers is headed to court, with the subject under dispute being an unauthorized iOS version of Knizia's Schotten-Totten called 3-Card Brigade Poker.

In what court, if I may ask? A UK or EU court will apply different law than a US court.


Yes, please say more. Can you give us a link? A few details? My brief internet search came up with nothing.


A PACER search of the U.S. federal courts (and federal court is where this this would be if they are claiming copyright) reveals no currently-pending cases with a party name of Knizia.

Maybe the paperwork hasn't been filed yet, or it hasn't shown up in PACER. But as of now, there's nothing listed in the U.S.

- Neil Wehneman


Well, Knizia, of course, may not be the plaintiff--especially if the suit is based on game artwork. Or it may not be in U.S. courts. The tweet says the case "is going to the courts today." Which to me suggests an appearance of some type, not just a filing.


An appearance is an attorney's contact information being submitted to the court as he or she "appears" for the client. In such a case the original complaint has already been filed, and if Knizia personally is a plaintiff, his name will be in the caption and would have come up on the PACER search.

Perhaps you meant "hearing" rather than an appearance? However, the effect is the same: you won't get a hearing without a complaint.

I absolutely agree that this may be outside the U.S., in which case I'd have to dig quite a bit to find out if suit has been filed, and I'll leave that to those in the EU.

- Neil Wehneman


So you've never heard a lawyer headed to a status hearing saying they were going to "appear" in court? That's a casual but pretty typical way of using the word.

This is all a tangent to the substance of the case which is what sparked my interest.
 
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So you've never heard a lawyer headed to a status hearing saying they were going to "appear" in court? That's a casual but pretty typical way of using the word.

This is all a tangent to the substance of the case which is what sparked my interest.


Yes, I've heard that usage before. But my main point remains: if someone appears in court, then a complaint has been filed. If a complaint has been filed, the named parties appears in PACER.

Knizia doesn't show up on PACER. Therefore there hasn't been a complaint filed in the U.S. (or else it's so new it hasn't shown up yet).

I agree this is a tangent . It would be great if we had a copy of the complaint (wherever it was filed) so we could assess it.

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W Eric Martin wrote:
TV commentator Mo Rocca took a trip to Gen Con, took a few swipes at gamers on the way – "...as many as 30,000 gamers crawl from their basements..." – interviewed Scott Nicholson and Mayfair Games' Robert Carty, and featured Piece o' Cake, Incan Gold, and other modern games for a six-minute segment on CBS News Sunday Morning in April 2011. (HT: David Knepper)

For those eager for more info, Scott discussed the interviewing and editing process of this segment in this insightful thread.
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Hard to find more information about the Knizia suit. Has MPowers made any comments about it?
 
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I wouldn't call Mo Rocca being Mo Rocca "swipes at gamers." Dude was on the daily show and has made easier jokes about bigger targets.
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