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So recently I had some discussion here on BGG about old Mahjong sets. There are a lot of fakes around these days and I thought it might be interesting to talk a bit about old sets as I kind of have a soft spot for them. The best site for information by far is Tom Slopers's http://www.sloperama.com/mjfaq/whereg.htm

When most people think of antique MJ sets from the 1920's, they think of bone and bamboo sets. These were made of cow bone and dovetailed to fit bamboo backs. They frequently come in wooden chests in various condition. Often the have brass decoration or inlay of some sort. The drawer handles may be brass pulls or bone knobs. I have seen a couple chest that I'm doubtful were original but they work to hold the tiles! Here are some pics of different chests. This one is classic with 5 drawers and front slide cover
and this one has lift out trays
and this chest seems more modern with these metal knobs and the precision of the wood
but it came with an older rule book and research show it is also from the 1920's. Here is the rule book
This is the classic Babcock rulebook
I don't believe that many of these old sets actually came with racks but I have 1 set of wooden racks with scoring information on the bottom that seems to date from around that time
I like to see a good bone to bamboo ratio so looking at the side of the tiles helps and you can also see the dovetailing
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Most of these sets also came with bone counting sticks, a ming (a little bone container with 4 wind disks) and some bone dice that may come in a little wooden "coffin"

There are all kinds of different carving styles. Here you can see the two different characters used for the red and green dragons. The red 8's are less common to find.
Here are some different representatives of the 1 bamboo suit and the 1 dot

You can also find other types of tile material from the 1920's. French Ivory sets were made of celluloid or Pyralin. Some were solid celluloid others were glued with wood backs (no dovetailing). Some sets had Pyralin on the face and the back with wood in between
These came with Pyralin counting sticks and dice

Bakelite sets came later from the 1930-50's. I have a sentimental preference for Chinese bakelite or Hand Carved bakelite tiles which tend to be solid yellowish in color as opposed to the two tone tiles of the American MJ sets. Here are some nice tiles with lots of detail on the flower and season tiles probably from the 1930's
and a more modern set, maybe 1950's to compare with it

And finally, here is an old card version of MJ from Parker Bros.
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Nice run-down, Lorna... and thanks for sending me info on the few sets / mings you had for sale, even though I didn't end up going with any of them!

I sent a note to Mr. Sloper concerning my set, as it's really unlike much of anything I've seen [or heard of]. It's obviously not a "fake" as it's not modeling anything!

I did run into [and pick up] a similarly-constructed set [bone on wood, like your celluloid sets] and picked it up on the cheap [$25 buy-it-now] to get some flowers to match.

Unfortunately, that set is incomplete and has a few tiles swapped out from another [unseen] set. I threw some pictures of it up in my gallery if you want to check it out.
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NateStraight wrote:
Nice run-down, Lorna... and thanks for sending me info on the few sets / mings you had for sale, even though I didn't end up going with any of them!

I sent a note to Mr. Sloper concerning my set, as it's really unlike much of anything I've seen [or heard of]. It's obviously not a "fake" as it's not modeling anything!

I did run into [and pick up] a similarly-constructed set [bone on wood, like your celluloid sets] and picked it up on the cheap [$25 buy-it-now] to get some flowers to match.

Unfortunately, that set is incomplete and has a few tiles swapped out from another [unseen] set. I threw some pictures of it up in my gallery if you want to check it out.

Unfortunately, swapped out pieces was quite common in the old sets. Some sets were used in clubs, and on occasion, you'll find an old set with a completely different tray of tiles (ie - all the bamboos are from a slightly different set) because when they were putting everything away, somebody didn't realize the tiles were slightly different (size or shape or image, etc.) Of course some tiles were simply lost and had to be replaced by other close approximations. Another very common occurance, especially with the sweep of Mah Jongg in the US in the 1920s, was various odd bonus tiles added to the set. Don't discard those extra tiles, as they are expected by collectors if you ever sell the set.

Of course, because of how common piece replacement was, it behooves anyone to go through old sets with a magnifying glass before buying. And, feel very lucky and HAPPY for finding a complete old set with all the original pieces!!
 
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Don't discard those extra tiles, as they are expected by collectors if you ever sell the set.


The cheap set I picked up for the flowers has absolutely no resale value. I paid $25 for it and that was too much; I'm not sure it will even be useable for the flowers as I had intended [the wood seems it will be quite different].

Definitely good advice for others, though.
 
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