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Looney Labs in 2011: Pyramids, Dragons...but No Rabbits

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With Pirate Fluxx hitting stores on Feb. 11, 2011, Looney Labs started to give people a look into the future by releasing information about its summer 2011 releases.

The Pyramids Are Back!

In November 2010, Looney Labs stopped selling Treehouse, its flagship pyramid product. On June 24, 2011, the company will release a new version of Treehouse with appropriately pyramidal packaging, as well as a new pyramid product called IceDice.

Treehouse - As with the previous version of this game, the new Treehouse includes 15 pyramids in five colors, rules, and a special Treehouse die. It also includes a regular die and rules to a second game called Pharaoh. Pharaoh had been previously released as a free rules download during the 2010 holiday season as the company's holiday gift to fans. Instead of the familiar plastic tube, the new version of Treehouse comes in a pyramid-shaped cloth bag with a zipper on the side and will retail for $14.

IceDice - The IceDice product includes 30 pyramids in five colors and a pair of special dice, also called IceDice. It also includes rules for two brand new games: IceDice and Launchpad 23. IceDice will come in a cloth bag similar to, but larger than, the Treehouse bag and will retail for $20.



Along with the new packaging comes a new brand name. The pyramid products are now being marketed under the name "Looney Pyramids". Previously, they were called Icehouse Pyramids, after the first game that was invented for the pyramids.

New-ish card game: Seven Dragons

Also on June 24, 2011, the company plans to release a card game called Seven Dragons, which is based on Aquarius, with dragon artwork by fantasy artist Larry Elmore. The game will retail for $12. There is no indication that the company plans to stop selling Aquarius, which has been rethemed once previously with a Mormon theme by Covenant Communications under the name Search, Ponder, & Play. (That version is still sold under license.)



Looney Labs Fan Club web site

In December (post-BoardgameNews.com and pre-BoardGameGeek News), Looney Labs unveiled a new web site for fans, The Looney Labs Fan Club. At least as far back as 1999, the company has reached out to fans, instituting its Mad Lab Rabbits program in November of that year. The program encouraged fans to spread the word of Looney Labs games to friends, in game stores, and at conventions. Until June 2007, the program included incentives for demoing games and directing new customers to the company's web site. Up to now, these activities had been coordinated through a series of email lists maintained by the company.

The new site has a public forum for general discussion of the company's various product lines, and a series of private forums dedicated to individual interest areas. Among the featured private groups are one for fans of the pyramid games (now dubbed Starship Captains), one to coordinate demo activities, and one for volunteers at the company's annual "Big Experiment" activites at the Origins Game Fair. The company says that it will offer "discounts and special deals" to fans who sign up for the web site, but there is no formal program as there was before.

With the new web site, the Mad Labs Rabbits program has been discontinued. The company had been gradually downplaying the rabbit theme over the last year, and actively looking for a new name since May 2010. In an open letter to fans on the new web site, company President Kristin Looney asked fans to stop calling themselves "rabbits", citing confusion the term has caused in the general public about the company and its games.

Fluxx: BoardGameGeek Expansion

In February 2011, Chad Krizan posted a message here on BoardGameGeek that a BoardGameGeek expansion to Fluxx is coming soon. The expansion will consist of eight cards: three Goals (including the BoardGameGeek.com Goal), three Keepers, an Action, and a New Rule, and should be available by mid-February 2011 in the BoardGameGeek store.
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I really hope they make those bags available as storage for those of us who already have the Icehouse Pieces Looney Pyramids.
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Those bags are awesome!

"Looney pyramids" hummm no.
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Hooray! The pyramids are back. I've wanted to pick up some of those.
 
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The pyramid bags look neat, but I don't think they'd fit as well in my game box. Hopefully they'll still sell tubes on their website so, should I decide to get the Xeno colors, I can switch them over.

Or maybe I should drop the money on them now before the change and stop worrying about it.

Edit: Just did. Now I have all 12 colors. They're shiny.
 
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It seems like a trade-off. The sacks are easy to just dump the pyramids into when you're finished playing, as opposed to tediously sorting and stacking them back into the tubes. But the sacks take up more space. And I wonder whether the pyramids are as protected during transit while loose in a bag instead of neatly stacked in tubes.

In any case, it is great that the pyramids are coming back! I know people who have thought about getting them but were frustrated by lack of local availability.
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thanks for the info, great news on all accounts!
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I wish they woudl start offering monochrome stashes again... I really want to get black and grey to add to my Icehouse Martian Chess set....
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A big part of the pyramids' appeal, for me, is how beautiful they are. There is no way I'm going to hide them in an opaque bag. I was looking forward to whatever the new packaging was going to be, but it never occurred to me they'd make it opaque. Big mistake!
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So much for the 5 each in 3 sizes of 1 color stash concept.

At least with the old Treehouse, you could recreate it for about the same price. This new packaging is bumping up the retail price for sure, making it just unfeasible to get a set of 5 stashes. The cheapest way would be to get three "IceDice" sets, but then you have 6 of each size which breaks the long established pattern.

Looks like the death of all colors [even white?] save RGYBK.

Oh well. At least the new dice look cool and actually useful. I once had an inkling to use Cinq-O dice [which have a "1 up", "1 down", "2 up", "2 down", "3 up", and "3 down" face] to randomly select for both pyramid size [impossible if drawing randomly from a bag] and orientation [impossible regardless] simultaneously. That never went anywhere.

What are the actual faces on these dice? It doesn't look as systematic.
 
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This new packaging is bumping up the retail price for sure, making it just unfeasible to get a set of 5 stashes. The cheapest way would be to get three "IceDice" sets, but then you have 6 of each size which breaks the long established pattern.
anywhere.


Simple solution:
Buy two "icedice" sets and one treehouse.
Cost total: $54

Regarding colours:
I am sure they won't discontinue the Xeno ones.
Wait till June, they will come up with something.
Otherwise I would be really sad.

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Dr00g wrote:
NateStraight wrote:
This new packaging is bumping up the retail price for sure, making it just unfeasible to get a set of 5 stashes. The cheapest way would be to get three "IceDice" sets, but then you have 6 of each size which breaks the long established pattern.
anywhere.


Simple solution:
Buy two "icedice" sets and one treehouse.
Cost total: $54

Regarding colours:
I am sure they won't discontinue the Xeno ones.
Wait till June, they will come up with something.
Otherwise I would be really sad.


Whoops. Lol.

That's rather awkward, still.

Strangely enough, much to my surprise, the retail cost on that works out as lower than the old 5 x Treehouse retail, which was $60.

Maybe I'm just confused at it all.
 
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NateStraight wrote:

Strangely enough, much to my surprise, the retail cost on that works out as lower than the old 5 x Treehouse retail, which was $60.

Maybe I'm just confused at it all.


Yep, the pyramids will be cheaper when packaged as Ice Dice. That's one of the great things about this announcement; I was always disappointed at how expensive it was to put together a full set of 5 Treehouse stashes. And you get an awesome pyramid shaped bag, which can be used for randomly drawing pyramids for any games which might need that.

As far as the dice included with Ice Dice, they will consist of one die that has the five colors (red, yellow, green, blue, black) as well as a "wild" side, which could also be a "null" side or some other meaning depending on the game, and one die that has the three sizes, plus the three pairs of sizes, which could be used to indicate you get to use two pieces, or used to indicate that you get to choose between the two sizes, or something of the sort.

So, I would say the the dice are fairly systematic, and pretty flexible to adapt to different games.

I'm pretty excited about the new format. I think that bags will be easier to deal with than stash tubes (just sweep everything into the bag when you're done, instead of sorting it all out), the pyramids are cheaper in the Ice Dice format, you can get a 3HOUSE set (which is great for Binary Homeworlds, Zark City, Dectana, World War 5, Martian Chess, and more http://icehousegames.org/wiki/index.php?title=What_Can_I_Pla...) by buying an Ice Dice plus a Treehouse set, and we have these cool new dice to play with.
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Xeno colors most certainly are NOT going away...

You can read more here:
http://www.wunderland.com/WhatsOld/2011/WN.02.10.11.html

Pyramid-Only Products: In addition to the complete-game-in-a-zippered-bag products, we will also be releasing two minimally-packaged pyramids-only products. Called simply Looney Pyramids, they will consist of a ziplock baggie with a cardboard display flap, containing 15 pyramids and a copy of the new Pocket Guide. Available in the traditional Rainbow and Xeno color schemes, Looney Pyramids will retail for just $10. (BTW, we strongly considered bringing back old-school monochrome stashes in this format as well, but decided against it, for reasons both philosophical and logistical.)


More details in a few weeks when I am back from Toy Fair, but let me just say that all the logistical issues that caused us not to be able to make monochrome stashes again for the long run, have left us with a BIG pile of monochrome stashes of most colors in the short run. They will go on sale in a few weeks...
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Xeno colors most certainly are NOT going away...

You can read more here:
http://www.wunderland.com/WhatsOld/2011/WN.02.10.11.html

Yay! BTW the wunderland.com RSS feeds haven't worked for a long time... (I subscribed to all 3 feeds months ago and never see anything). Any chance of them getting fixed?
 
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Great news for what's probably the abstract game pieces for the new generation.

Any plans on bringing back gray pieces in the Looney Pyramids form? They're becoming quite the collector's item, and I've seen them go for very high prices ($70+ for a stash?!)...

Also, are there any plans for "edition upgrades" for those of us who want the new edition rules and parts but have all the pyramids we need?
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Hey Russ, sorry about the RSS feed trouble. Can you check it again? I never use RSS but I try to provide the service; unfortunately, since I don't use it I have trouble detecting issues. Robin posted a new one for LooneyNews last night, and since I may have been doing it wrong we re-posted my wunderland feed. Did those get through? (I haven't used the third feed in a long time.)
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Hi I just checked my RSS reader again, and I see an announcement for "Now Shipping... PIRATE FLUXX"! So something just recently changed in the system indeed, a good sign! As far as I recall, that's the first time I've seen anything in those feeds.

Looking in my email archive, I see I had emailed in November about the problem to thelab (at) looneylabs.com and got a reply "These are definitely broken, sorry for the trouble. We'll get them fixed soon!" I guess if y'all don't use RSS yourselves, that would explain why it got back-burnered.

PS: for what it's worth, I highly recommend using an RSS reader (e.g. Google Reader). I would never go back to manually checking each site directly...
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I would also be interested in upgrades for those of us with a full set of all colors (except gray and pink) already. I would gladly buy a cloth bag and the components/rules needed for the new games.
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Volcano Caps, Monochromatics stashes of Black and Grey, Zendo game.


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How about releasing grey stashes as you did the pink ones - with a portion going to a select charity. Maybe marijuana law reform?
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