Dice Hate Me

Where are all these games you are supposedly talking about????

Please don't lure here with nothing, instead of thumb you might go ignored for eternity...

Pretty sure it's an audio podcast... You have to click the link and listen.

Pretty sure it's an audio podcast... You have to click the link and listen.

Yeah, they all direct me offsite, where I have no intention of going. As far as I'm concerned this blog post speaks not a word about those games...sorry.

Like linking to a random blog post that speaks of games...

Yeah, they all direct me offsite, where I have no intention of going. As far as I'm concerned this blog post speaks not a word about those games...sorry.

Like linking to a random blog post that speaks of games...

I agree. It's purely exploiting the BGG subscription service -- tagging games -- to advertise the Dice Hate Me website and podcast.

If Dice Hate Me want to do that in a less annoying manner, then don't tag any games, and then it goes to people who are subscribed to Dice Hate Me or the Dice Hate Me blog.

My intent has never been to abuse or exploit the blog posting on BGG, it has been to disseminate information, which is why the database was created in the first place. When Blogs were first introduced, there wasn't a place for podcasts, so I started linking to The State of Games through the Dice Hate Me BGG blog. As almost all of my review content on my personal website is posted as separate database entries to BGG, the only thing that remained as part of the BGG Blog were the podcast updates.

If this is considered an abuse of the system I will gladly link to the podcast listing that is now available on BGG. However, with every podcast that is posted on Dice Hate Me, I also provide supportive links to game company websites, previous reviews that have been posted on the site, and even back to BGG for more information available from the database.

I still can't understand why anyone would find this annoying - I'm not gouging BGG for thumbs or even analytics for Dice Hate Me. I have been actively supporting both my own endeavors and the endeavors of BGG. If there is a less "annoying" way of doing this - and it is part of the intent of BGG and not simply someone's opinion - then I gladly welcome feedback and will make the changes.

I don't necessarily think its abuse of any system, I just don't like it. I don't like having subscription hits for things that aren't providing BGG content. The fact that you are providing content somewhere else is fine, its just that there are lots of things being posted (not just by you) that only provide off site links lately, and its annoying for some of us.

The suggestion above to simply not tag games would do it - then the subscriptions would only ping for people who have subscribed to this blog or to you personally, not everybody who subscribed to Stone Age like a year ago and forgot about it because nothing much has happened regarding Stone Age recently.

The complaint as I read it is that someone gets a subscription hit on a game their watching and clicks through to find nothing about the game at all, just a link off-site to your podcast. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but it might be less annoying for some people if they didn't get that subscription hit.

I get about 1000 subscription notices per day so these kind of things will take away time I need to get content I really care about. Hope you get my idea, since people have told that when I write in other languages, especially in Russian and English I sound arrogant, but it is not true.

How is see this post here is like this:

"New podcast is out, click this: www.something.eu.org"

And then there are like 100 games tagged.

You are doing a great job, definitely keep it up, but please try to be very clear about your tagging and activating subscriptions in the future. I will now subscribe to your blog as well...not bad.

Suggestions?

Could you list the games in the Blog post rather than actually tagging them? Maybe that would suffice, and do about the same thing.

I'm still not sure what to do about the tags - I feel like that's a valuable part of BGG's system of interlinking content. But I do know where the annoying and spam comments are coming from now.

Suggestions?

Now it's beginning to make sense. I never realized that the tagging could trigger mass geekmail as I don't subscribe to entire game database entries - only select forum posts and threads that I want to keep an eye on.

Yeah, they all direct me offsite, where I have no intention of going. As far as I'm concerned this blog post speaks not a word about those games...sorry.

Like linking to a random blog post that speaks of games...

You were not alone. I did not know that either. Learn something new everyday.

Thanks for the podcast!

Peace

Dice hate me and his ... I think Wife...(well significant other anyways!) have been doing this podcast and hosting a website for a while now.

I would rate them as a very good podcast and feel safe saying it is ok to click the link.

If you are hesitant you can Google "Dice Hate Me Podcast". As a side note unlike a podcast I will refrain from mentioning, he (Dice Hate Me) actually lets his Significant other talk on the podcast as opposed to interrupting her, cutting her short, and ignoring her input like another podcaster...

Back on topic, I actually like to get hits from games. I too subscribe to games and it's nice to see when other people are talking about a game I am tracking. This way I get Other peoples opinions and know which podcasts to prioritize with my listening habits (sadly I think I subscribe to about 20ish podcasts....).

So my vote is to keep tagging games! Thank you for the podcast!

Chris, As has been mentioned (I think), it would be more work but for each tag you could mention the game and the context in which it comes up in your podcast - so that if it's just mentioned in passing "This game has dice, like Stone Age, Troyes, or Macao" for example might get tags for those three games, but if that's all that's said about Stone Age, it is not terribly interesting to someone following Stone Age. On the other hand, if you are comparing Stone Age in detail with Belfort for example, then it may be interesting to people following both of those games. Mentioning that context might make it ok to have the tags, maybe?

It will take more time, but I think it's worth making a more complete summary of the podcast so that people who get tag notifications will understand the context. A lot of what we talk about (especially in this podcast) would be of interest to gamers who may not be familiar with a particular game, and I think that a link to the blog/podcast on the game page is a valuable addition to the database. And, in many podcasts, we interview designers, etc. that may provide new information that experienced gamers will be interested in.

I will also start linking the blog post to the specific podcasts page on BGG so that people won't have to worry about an external link - although I will continue to include a link to Dice Hate Me for the supplemental material that I post there.