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Space Hulk

This is a repost from my blog http://vom-krieg.blogspot.com/

On that blog I talk about gaming, modeling and painting. I am only reposting the board game specific stuff on here and nothing to do with Warhammer 40k or Warmachine. if you want to check out that stuff, just go to the blog.



You evil expensive king sized monster you.


I occasionally say bad things about GW, usually about their pricing model and their release schedule. Mainly because those things are 100% true and get in the way of me actually enjoying their product and my hobby.



Space Hulk is above that, it's beyond it. Space Hulk is what happens when GW does something right. They took classic space hulk, touched up the rules, and made it exceedingly pretty. The Mini's are THE BEST looking models included in a stand alone boardgame..... ever.... no questions.




And for those of you who want to rave about deadboringfleet, please go over that side, the kids table is ready to serve your happy meal and novelty pirate hat. Pick a fate card to see who wins.


Space Hulk was, and remains and elegant asymmetric two player tactical game where nearly every decision is nail biting and tense. It borrowed heavily from the vibe of the Aliens movie, but married it well enough to the 40k setting that it wasn't jarring.




The mechanics are simple, in that brilliant "easy to learn, difficult to master" way of early GW boardgames. I do find the genestealers far more forgiving to play than the marines, but with experienced players it seems to balence out.


Painting!


I wont do a shot by shot painting guide, as I pretty much followed the one on the GW website. What I will say is that I took my sweet time with these guys.


I've painted entire boardgames in less time than it took to do this squad. I'm not an expert painter by any measure, and I get good mileage out of painting short cuts and techniques.But I took no short cuts on these guys. I think they turned out pretty good




This is not a boxed set you want to give to KEEF your 13 year old cousin who just started painting. These models are precious really, and I don't normally say that about hunks of plastic.


Take your time, pay a friend to paint them who's really good. AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DO NOT USE THE GODDAM DIP METHOD.




I don't care if you think dipped models look good, they don't. They look passable AT BEST.


Dipping these is akin to getting a bottle of $500 wine and mixing it with orange juice and lemonade.


Oh, heres the painting guide for those interested. The only change i made is i didn't like the Grey terminator emblems on the left shoulder. (Crux Terminatus, I think)


[geekurl= http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catego...]SPACE HULK PAINTING GUIDEPainting Guide[/geekurl]


That's it for now.


I really should get this game out and play it more, stop treating it like an art exhibit.
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And for those of you who want to rave about deadboringfleet, please go over that side, the kids table is ready to serve your happy meal and novelty pirate hat. Pick a fate card to see who wins.

Come back to me when you drill the barrels on your storm bolters
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And for those of you who want to rave about deadboringfleet, please go over that side, the kids table is ready to serve your happy meal and novelty pirate hat. Pick a fate card to see who wins.

Come back to me when you drill the barrels on your storm bolters


I knew there was something left to do! Good idea, i've got the drill and everything


 
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I'm glad to be of assistance. Though I have to say, those are some mighty fine paint jobs you got there, and I can only advise patience when it comes to drilling. I know the love and care that goes into the kind of work you have produced. Please don't take my flippant comments as cause for doing anything other that giving all the due time and attention that tour fantastic paint jobs deserve.
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Take your time, pay a friend to paint them who's really good. AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DO NOT USE THE GODDAM DIP METHOD.

I don't care if you think dipped models look good, they don't. They look passable AT BEST.

Dipping these is akin to getting a bottle of $500 wine and mixing it with orange juice and lemonade.



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Amen, brother. I could kick myself repeatedly that I did that. On the other hand, Space Hulk's terminators were the first miniatures I ever painted, and they really turned out … ok I guess.

Maybe I should try to find someone who has not painted his minis at all and doesn't intend to and wants to trade? And then start again fresh.
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On the other hand, Space Hulk's terminators were the first miniatures I ever painted, and they really turned out … ok I guess.

I'd say that the Space Hulk minis are a great place to have started painting. It's only logical to look back on a first attempt at feel a little embarrassed (If only you could see the lameness that was the Battletech mechs that were the first minis I painted), but I'd say be grateful that your first attempts were with such amazing minis. Great minis like these are a master class in and of themselves.
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That's possibly true.

Still a damn shame. I painted Talisman after that (without dipping of course). Those miniatures are absolute crap compared to the GW minis (detail-wise), but they still look better painted.
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Daniel666 wrote:
That's possibly true.

Still a damn shame. I painted Talisman after that (without dipping of course). Those miniatures are absolute crap compared to the GW minis (detail-wise), but they still look better painted.


There are't too many games that don't look better painted.

I did a quckfire job on my copy of Descent, which is probably a comparable quality to talisman. Each model was done with the most basic levels of painting, but its still 1000 times better than the boring white plastic.

Link to the blog tagged descent.

http://vom-krieg.blogspot.com/search/label/Descent
 
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Daniel666 wrote:
On the other hand, Space Hulk's terminators were the first miniatures I ever painted, and they really turned out … ok I guess.

I'd say that the Space Hulk minis are a great place to have started painting. It's only logical to look back on a first attempt at feel a little embarrassed (If only you could see the lameness that was the Battletech mechs that were the first minis I painted), but I'd say be grateful that your first attempts were with such amazing minis. Great minis like these are a master class in and of themselves.


My first models were a bloodbowl team....... I went and purchased a metal team of the same race a few years later as the badness of the paint jobs haunted me.
 
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I'm glad to be of assistance. Though I have to say, those are some mighty fine paint jobs you got there, and I can only advise patience when it comes to drilling. I know the love and care that goes into the kind of work you have produced. Please don't take my flippant comments as cause for doing anything other that giving all the due time and attention that tour fantastic paint jobs deserve.


In my copy of axis and allies that i've painted up (you can see on this blog) I had to dill into the tiny tiny planes to mount them.

Drilling is scary but it looks good when done well, and if i munt it up I can always greenstuff the holes in.

Care was my watchword with these guys.

I'm also think about gettign some 40mm bases to mount them for 40k as well
 
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Daniel666 wrote:
That's possibly true.

Still a damn shame. I painted Talisman after that (without dipping of course). Those miniatures are absolute crap compared to the GW minis (detail-wise), but they still look better painted.


There are't too many games that don't look better painted.

I did a quckfire job on my copy of Descent, which is probably a comparable quality to talisman. Each model was done with the most basic levels of painting, but its still 1000 times better than the boring white plastic.

Link to the blog tagged descent.

http://vom-krieg.blogspot.com/search/label/Descent



No, what I meant was: the Talisman miniatures look better than my Space Hulk termies, although the sculpts are worse, but because I took my time painting them instead of rushing the job and dipping. It took me about 1 1/2 evenings (five to six hours?) for one miniature. Compared to one evening for "red on all marines" …

And now, I'm painting Dreadfleet. Yesterday was my third evening painting the Flaming Scimitar. And I will need at least four hours until I'm done (yes, I am the world's slowest painter).
 
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Oh my mistake.

Dude.... thats really sad and I can see why you have dippers remorse.

I don't think the usual paint stripping techniques like dettol work on the varnish. I think once they are dipped they stay dipped.

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Dippers remorse. Heehee.
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