Fantasy Flight Games' Line-up for February 2012

Bartosz Trzaskowski

(kochamkinie)

Poland
Warszawa

Eep eeep?

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:10 pm
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Ken Grazier

(Kengi)

United States
South Euclid
Ohio

Check out my boardgame demoing website! www.geek-craft.com

Near northeast Ohio? Come to one of my game nights! www.geek-craft.com

kochamkinie wrote:

Eep eeep?

You missed an "e" there. goo

Don't want to offend them by misspelling their race's name.

Edited Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:39 pm
Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:23 pm
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Mathieu Perreault-Dorion

(Oeternalis)

Canada
Montreal
Québec

No word on Rex: Final Days of an Empire? According to the website it is back "in development".

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:58 pm
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it's pronounced "em cee crispy"

(mccrispy)

United Kingdom
Basingstoke
Hampshire

Have I missed the discussion on this? I'm concerned that the MoV "kick into hyperspace" will involve the deplorable practice of re-releasing a 6-p game as a 4-p one and then selling expansion packs (including the 6-p expansion pack, the "additional races" expansion pack and the "ship upgrades pack") to milk the cash cow.

Anybody want to take a 50 bag

bet that this is what will happen? (Apologies in advance to the Admins if I just broke a rule)

I want this game soooooo badly; I just wish Stronghold were publishing it. (This from an Arkham Horror fan, so obviously I like expansions and FFG games - I never said I wasn't a hypocrite)

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:33 pm
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Eric Greaves

(rarnom)

United States
SALEM
Oregon

Oeternalis wrote:

No word on Rex: Final Days of an Empire? According to the website it is back "in development".

I am also wondering about this. I was really hoping to have this on the table soon.

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:36 pm
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Aron Clark

(aronbc)

United States
Los Gatos
California

I'll take that bet, will bounce you a geek mail to set the terms.

Ha! I jus lost . . . the MoV cover art linked to this story clearly shows 2 to 4 players. shake

Edited Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:42 pm
Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:37 pm
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Greg F

(GregF)

United States

rarnom wrote:

Oeternalis wrote:

No word on Rex: Final Days of an Empire? According to the website it is back "in development".

I am also wondering about this. I was really hoping to have this on the table soon.

I was interested in both Rex and Wiz-War (eighth edition), but the latter also seems to have slipped to Q1 2012 on the Upcoming page. (But if it's not on the menu for February, there's not much Q1 left...)

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:15 pm
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Johannes Sjolte

(Zalco)

Denmark
Copenhagen

GregF wrote:

rarnom wrote:

Oeternalis wrote:

No word on Rex: Final Days of an Empire? According to the website it is back "in development".

I am also wondering about this. I was really hoping to have this on the table soon.

I was interested in both Rex and Wiz-War (eighth edition), but the latter also seems to have slipped to Q1 2012 on the Upcoming page. (But if it's not on the menu for February, there's not much Q1 left...)

I had hoped to see Wiz-War on the February list as well :-(

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:40 pm
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W. Eric Martin

(W Eric Martin)

United States
Apex
North Carolina

GregF wrote:

I was interested in both Rex and Wiz-War (eighth edition), but the latter also seems to have slipped to Q1 2012 on the Upcoming page. (But if it's not on the menu for February, there's not much Q1 left...)

FFG does not typically issue new sell sheets for a game with a revised release date, so either or both of those games could appear anytime during Q1 2012 – unless the date is further revised, of course.

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:08 pm
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Thomas Lensch

(stollentroll)

Germany
Hallgarten
Rheingau

Quote: Have I missed the discussion on this? I'm concerned that the MoV "kick into hyperspace" will involve the deplorable practice of re-releasing a 6-p game as a 4-p one and then selling expansion packs (including the 6-p expansion pack, the "additional races" expansion pack and the "ship upgrades pack") to milk the cash cow.

Anybody want to take a 50bag bet that this is what will happen? (Apologies in advance to the Admins if I just broke a rule)

I appreciate with this post (I will not bet), but did you ever play MoV with 6p?

I tried it for two times, and it was not really satisfying....too long, too much downtime.

The question is, what else FFG will design to make this game better....(I think of some new rules, the game material is not important for this game to be "new")

Excuse my bad english, I´m out of school for a long long time gulp

Edited Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:14 pm
Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:11 pm
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zoran

(zemus)

United Kingdom
London
England

Any word on when their Star Wars stuff is coming out?

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:52 pm
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Andy Stout

(dragonstout)

United States
La Jolla
CA

The most disappointing thing to me is that there's no news of the previously-yearly-in-February new Cosmic Encounter expansion.

Posted Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:43 pm
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Ryan Hopkins

(rhopkins)

United States
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania

zemus wrote:

Any word on when their Star Wars stuff is coming out?

I was wondering about this myself. The FFG website still lists an "Early 2012" release for both the Star Wars LCG and X-Wing.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:18 am
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Jayson Stevens

(palmerkun)

Canada
Surrey
British Columbia

mccrispy wrote:

Have I missed the discussion on this? I'm concerned that the MoV "kick into hyperspace" will involve the deplorable practice of re-releasing a 6-p game as a 4-p one and then selling expansion packs (including the 6-p expansion pack, the "additional races" expansion pack and the "ship upgrades pack") to milk the cash cow.

They could be milking the "affordability cow" instead you know.

A: Having 6p in the base game will increase costs considerably. It's already priced at 60. They will lose massive numbers of sales if it sold at 80 - enough that the game may be a complete flop as a result.

B: Not everyone who gets the game wants or needs 6p. Someone else has already said they hate the original as 6p. A lot of people may never have more than 4 players at a time, making the extra 2 players (and $20+ cost) a waste for them.

Doing it this way makes it sell better overall, gives those who want 6p the option, and reduces the financial burden on everyone.

If it has more components, it's going to cost more, plain and simple.
Your argument seems to be an objection to having to pay more as 2 transactions instead of just one... which is illogical.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:32 am
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David Dawson

(dawson_osu)

United States
Champaign
Illinois

I just hope Rex, Wiz-War, Star Wars: The Card Game and maybe the third Cosmic Encounter expansion are all out by March. However, that may just be related to my birthday being around that time...

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:56 am
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John Munsch

(JohnMunsch)

United States
Fort Worth
Texas

mccrispy wrote:

Have I missed the discussion on this? I'm concerned that the MoV "kick into hyperspace" will involve the deplorable practice of re-releasing a 6-p game as a 4-p one and then selling expansion packs (including the 6-p expansion pack, the "additional races" expansion pack and the "ship upgrades pack") to milk the cash cow.

Anybody want to take a 50 bag

bet that this is what will happen? (Apologies in advance to the Admins if I just broke a rule)

I want this game soooooo badly; I just wish Stronghold were publishing it. (This from an Arkham Horror fan, so obviously I like expansions and FFG games - I never said I wasn't a hypocrite)

Based on what I saw FFG do with Cosmic Encounter I think you may be making a poor bet there. They jammed everything and the kitchen sink into their version when they could have easily skipped the alternate version of Filch, scaled the aliens from 50 to 40 or less, and have left out the tech cards as well.

So there might be cause to hope that they include everything you're hoping for in their version.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:23 am
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Rank Zero

(Tzer)

Austria

palmerkun wrote:

They could be milking the "affordability cow" instead you know.

Ha, you know we are talking about FFG here?

palmerkun wrote:

A: Having 6p in the base game will increase costs considerably.Doing it this way makes it sell better overall, gives those who want 6p the option, and reduces the financial burden on everyone.

Again, this is FFG, OF COURSE they are only doing this to sell overpriced expansions. Can anyone look at their track record and honestly say this is not what they're probably going to do again here?

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:23 am
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Frank La Terra

(Mr Skeletor)

Australia

Tzer wrote:

palmerkun wrote:

They could be milking the "affordability cow" instead you know.

Ha, you know we are talking about FFG here?

palmerkun wrote:

A: Having 6p in the base game will increase costs considerably.Doing it this way makes it sell better overall, gives those who want 6p the option, and reduces the financial burden on everyone.

Again, this is FFG, OF COURSE they are only doing this to sell overpriced expansions. Can anyone look at their track record and honestly say this is not what they're probably going to do again here?

I look at their track record and see a company who puts out the best value for money games in the business.
If you don't like it go buy an old copy with it's 6 players and cheap flimsy chits.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:38 am
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Eric Sexton

(Warprime)

United States

Texas

Oh man, this looks great! I love merchant trading games and am working on my own for the NaGa DeMon right now. My game is heavily inspired from the old TRS-80 merchant trading game Taipan from the early 80's. Right now the game is called Taipan -Merchants of the Far East, but I may change the theme once I am done with it.

Recently I played Merchants and Marauders and loved it. I am sure this game will not disappoint. Cant wait.

If you are interested, I have documented much of the development of my game here: http://warprime.blogspot.com/

I am also posting select Blogs here on my BGG Blog.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:01 pm
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Ed Rozmiarek

(edroz)

United States
Liberty Hill
Texas

rhopkins wrote:

zemus wrote:

Any word on when their Star Wars stuff is coming out?

I was wondering about this myself. The FFG website still lists an "Early 2012" release for both the Star Wars LCG and X-Wing.

And Descent Second Ed.

Since several other items in their Upcoming list have "Q1 2012", it makes one wonder what "Early 2012" means. Obviously not January or February.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:20 pm
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Phillip DeCarbo

(EvilPie)

United States
Beaver Falls
Pennsylvania

Tzer wrote:

palmerkun wrote:

They could be milking the "affordability cow" instead you know.

Ha, you know we are talking about FFG here?

palmerkun wrote:

A: Having 6p in the base game will increase costs considerably.Doing it this way makes it sell better overall, gives those who want 6p the option, and reduces the financial burden on everyone.

Again, this is FFG, OF COURSE they are only doing this to sell overpriced expansions. Can anyone look at their track record and honestly say this is not what they're probably going to do again here?

I'm sorry, but when I look at FFG's track record, I fail to see where they sell "overpriced expansions." I don't know why people view expansions as something that should have been in the base game.

The Horned Rat expansion for CitOW definitely wasn't overpriced or something that should have been in the base game. The Cosmic expansions have been great value for the price, IMO. It's difficult to argue even expansions which "fixed" games should have been crammed in a base game. Are you saying Twilight Imperium didn't have enough in the box for it's price?

Personally, I like how FFG is making their games under $60 for something playable, and fun. And if I buy it at that price, because I can afford it, and play it, and enjoy it, I'm more likely to buy a $25 or $35 expansion to add to it, whereas if it were included in the base game making it $90, I'd probably never buy it initially and find out if I like it.

You see it as "milking us," I see it as being affordable.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:45 pm
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Greg F

(GregF)

United States

palmerkun wrote:

B: Not everyone who gets the game wants or needs 6p. Someone else has already said they hate the original as 6p. A lot of people may never have more than 4 players at a time, making the extra 2 players (and $20+ cost) a waste for them.

Why would it add $20 to the cost to ship six players in the box? This isn't something like Civilization or Twilight Imperium where you need to add board pieces, special components in the new color, etc- what you need to add a new MoV player is a pawn, a reference card, and ship cards. FFG's renditions of these will certainly be fancier than Avalon Hill's, but I don't see them being that big a difference.

Posted Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:07 pm
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Joe Heaney

(jheaney)

United States
Shoreview
MN

GregF wrote:

palmerkun wrote:

B: Not everyone who gets the game wants or needs 6p. Someone else has already said they hate the original as 6p. A lot of people may never have more than 4 players at a time, making the extra 2 players (and $20+ cost) a waste for them.

Why would it add $20 to the cost to ship six players in the box? This isn't something like Civilization or Twilight Imperium where you need to add board pieces, special components in the new color, etc- what you need to add a new MoV player is a pawn, a reference card, and ship cards. FFG's renditions of these will certainly be fancier than Avalon Hill's, but I don't see them being that big a difference.

It depends on the ships. And tiny plastic ships are very expensive in mass production. Especially if FFG goes all out and sculpts different ships for each race. of.

Posted Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:01 am
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David Turczi

(TDaver)

Hungary
Budapest

Still no sign of a BSG expansion? DAMN

Posted Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:11 am
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Rank Zero

(Tzer)

Austria

TDaver wrote:

Still no sign of a BSG expansion? DAMN

My best guess is it's dead for FFG, as a third and last expansion should have been announced by now.

Posted Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:31 pm
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Todd Warnken

(Mundane)

United States
Harrison
Ohio

Get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on. Mandate, GET IT ON!

Now where was I?

Tzer wrote:

TDaver wrote:

Still no sign of a BSG expansion? DAMN

My best guess is it's dead for FFG, as a third and last expansion should have been announced by now.

The gap between the Pegasus and Exodus was over a year and it has been less than a year since Exodus. I expect we will see the season 4 expansion (Daybreak?) this summer.

Posted Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:11 pm
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Cracky McCracken

(Cracky)

United States

Ohio

Mundane wrote:

Tzer wrote:

TDaver wrote:

Still no sign of a BSG expansion? DAMN

My best guess is it's dead for FFG, as a third and last expansion should have been announced by now.

The gap between the Pegasus and Exodus was over a year and it has been less than a year since Exodus. I expect we will see the season 4 expansion (Daybreak?) this summer.

Good call. Seems like if you wait long enough, FFG comes through. (Gears of War anyone?)