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Haggis

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We first played Haggis early in 2011. At the time my wife really liked it. She liked it so much, that the next day we played the game again, using a regular deck of cards. We looked into buying the game online, but found that it was sold out everywhere. By happenstance, a few weeks later we found a copy in a retail game store and bought it immediately. One of the reasons for doing this project of playing through all of our games is because my wife believes we have too many games, and this means some of the games we like do not get played very often because they get lost in the crowd. So the point of this project is to weed out the less played games and highlight our favorites. The question is will Haggis be a game that is cast aside or rises to the top?

Game Overview
While it uses a five suit deck (the two player game uses four suits and can be played with a standard deck of cards), Haggis is more or less a traditional card game. Haggis is a ladder game, which means it combines the sets and runs of rummy with a trick taking game. A player plays either a set (two of a kind, three of a kind, etc) or a run (sequential cards of the same suit). The next player must then play the same type of set or run, but must do it in a higher numeric value. For example if I play three fours, then my opponent must play three of a kind that is higher than four. To help do this every player begins the game with three face cards that can be used as wilds. This goes back and forth until one player passes, and the other player gets all of the cards played. The goal is to be the first player to be out of cards. This player gets points for the cards left in an opponent's hand and also gets the "haggis" which is a pile of cards not in play. Players get points for the odd numbered cards that they have collected, as well as the wild cards. Throughout the game players can also make bids if they think they will be the first one out. Games often play to 250 points.

The Game We Played
Instead of playing to a set score, we opted to play for a time limit. So we played for half an hour with the winner being whoever had more points at the end. I think I only went out first once, so I got crushed. The final score was 137-79.

Our Thoughts
My Rating: 3 (it's OK)
My Thoughts: I feel like there is a depth to this game that I just can not grasp. Beyond that, I am kind of neutral on the game. I do not particularly like it, but I also do not really dislike it.

Her Rating: 4 (like it)
Her Thoughts: I like it. It is so much fun to pull off really crazy sets or runs.

Verdict
Combined Rating: 7

My wife grew up playing a Rummy variant called 313. I think the sets, runs, and wilds of this game are close enough that it scratches that itch for her. While, I prefer to play other games I will play Haggis so that makes it a keeper.
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Sean Ross has mentioned that this game was designed and intended to be played to 350 and the 250 points value was put in later to offer players a shorter game and is the absolute minimum that should be played to. A lot of testing went into finding the optimum 350 score as is shown by Sean's various posts here on BGG, in particular this Geeklist: Design Challenges.

We started out playing just to 250 but realized that playing to 350 was much better as it helped balance out the 'luck of the draw' more and usually ended up being much closer in score in many cases (or at least gives a fighting chance). This game isn't intended to be a 'filler' or 'short' game so you have to be careful playing it as such I think.

I agree the strategy is hard to grasp at first and requires more plays to begin to see how best to use your cards....there are many more options than is first apparent.
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I just discovered this game on Boardgamearena the other day. After 2 games I was heading off to my local FLGS. They are ordering it for me from their distributor. They are hoping to have it by the end of the week or early next week. I am super excited as my goal lately is to find games that are best suited for my wife and I to play as 2 player games, but I am sick of the old recommendations for 2 players lists. This will hopefully scratch her itch too!
 
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Strickhouser wrote:
I just discovered this game on Boardgamearena the other day. After 2 games I was heading off to my local FLGS. They are ordering it for me from their distributor. They are hoping to have it by the end of the week or early next week. I am super excited as my goal lately is to find games that are best suited for my wife and I to play as 2 player games, but I am sick of the old recommendations for 2 players lists. This will hopefully scratch her itch too!


There is a bit of a Christmas hangover right now in the distribution system for this game. Due to some very favorable reviews in major publications Haggis sold out in most distribution channels - and the distributors are still cleaning up and figuring out which and how many games they need to order here at the beginning of the year.

So net - if your store comes back and says it is out of print, that is not true and its just a matter of time before the distributors get it back into stock.
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T Worthington wrote:
Strickhouser wrote:
I just discovered this game on Boardgamearena the other day. After 2 games I was heading off to my local FLGS. They are ordering it for me from their distributor. They are hoping to have it by the end of the week or early next week. I am super excited as my goal lately is to find games that are best suited for my wife and I to play as 2 player games, but I am sick of the old recommendations for 2 players lists. This will hopefully scratch her itch too!


There is a bit of a Christmas hangover right now in the distribution system for this game. Due to some very favorable reviews in major publications Haggis sold out in most distribution channels - and the distributors are still cleaning up and figuring out which and how many games they need to order here at the beginning of the year.

So net - if your store comes back and says it is out of print, that is not true and its just a matter of time before the distributors get it back into stock.


That's good to know. It's not like they called their distributor or anything. They seemed pretty confident to me, but that is probably just their assumption that is can be had easily. IF their distributor doesn't have it in stock how long are we looking at? I might head over to the BGG marketplace for a copy if we are looking at more than a month...I can't find many opponents on BGA and I am really itching to get a few more games of this in.
 
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