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Musings of a solitary gamer. I've loved games all my life, and I like people too, but I'm indifferent about playing games with other people. (Go figure.) Comments welcome.
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When I was twelve, I desperately wanted to learn to play chess. It just looked like the coolest game ever. I had a chess set, and a new kid in the neighborhood taught me to play--but then I never saw him again. I didn't know anyone else who played, but eventually I taught it to a friend, and he'd reluctantly play now and then. There were no chess computers in those days, but I bought a book called Solitaire Chess and worked my way through that.

When I was thirteen, the same friend bought Waterloo. Though its components looked cheap, overall it promised to be the best board game I'd ever seen. Like chess maybe (wargames were advertised as "military chess" then), only plainer-looking and more complex, covering an intriguing historical subject.

Throughout high school, we played wargames a lot--almost every day, it seems--and we played chess a couple times.

There was a chess club in our high school, but I avoided that like the plague. In those days, social status meant everything, and the chess club was strictly for what today would be called nerds or geeks (we called them "four-o's," which I guess must have referred to the 4.0 grade-point average, though it sounded a lot more derogatory, like calling someone with glasses "four eyes"). I kept that side of myself strictly private, studying chess books alone in my room--the same room where we played most of our wargames. I was shy anyway; it was hard for me to mingle anywhere.

Another reason I steered clear of the chess club was that I feared the competition. I hadn't played much at all, and I knew most club members would be way ahead of me on the learning curve. I didn't want to look stupid in front of others. Maybe if I just studied those chess books, I'd learn enough secrets that I'd someday be able to face the competition and hold my own.

Several years later, I put that to the test, playing chess with another friend and with a fellow at work. Though I remembered enough to play a sound opening and form a strong position, I made serious tactical blunders and lost most every time. The book learning wasn't enough; I needed to practice like everybody else.

I pretty much gave up on chess at that point, and I stuck to wargames for years afterward. Wargames always impressed even the chess players I knew. Wargames were bigger and more complex. It took some time and effort just to learn how to play a wargame--to say nothing of learning how to play one well.

Learning the rules and mechanics of a wargame--even a very complicated one--was also something I could do on my own. To a large extent, it was something that required more study than practice. It helped to set the game up and play through a few turns while referring to the rules, but learning those rules was the first stage in learning the game. And often enough, it turned out to also be the last stage. Rather than play a game I had learned, I'd usually start learning some new wargame I'd become interested in.

For a stretch of many years, just learning one wargame after another constituted my whole hobby life. I might tell myself I wanted to pick one good wargame and play it over and over until I had mastered it, but then I'd be unable to choose the game. Or if I did choose a game, I'd grow tired of it after playing only a few times--almost always solitaire.

But that was one appeal of wargames: they could be played solitaire, if only just to learn the rules. A game like chess would have required me to find an opponent. And then, if I found an opponent, I'd have to face that competition again; and I'd probably suffer one humiliating loss after another, as before.

I loved wargames because they were absorbing. They were about as satisfying to the intellect as chess, and they captured the imagination as well. Wargaming led me to an interest in military history, and I'd find reading material to complement the games. Playing a wargame was almost like time-traveling to a famous battlefield and trying my hand at generalship. Chess had none of that; it was abstract.

But along came the home computer, and good chess software soon followed. Here was my chance to finally become a decent chess player without having to face others. I bought Chessmaster 2100 and set out to become at least an intermediate-level player.

Well, history repeated itself: I was defeated time after time due to my faulty tactics (or to just not paying enough attention). It soon became frustrating and discouraging. If I had fought my way through, maybe I'd have accomplished my goal. But it got to where my goal didn't matter to me.

I was like the fabled fox walking away from the sour grapes, I suppose. But to my mind, chess really did start looking sour. The kind of thinking it required me to do was just not any fun for me to do. I could force myself to do it for a while. But then I'd end up wondering why I was forcing myself to do something I didn't like just for the sake of playing a game. Games are supposed to be playful and fun and amusing, right? This one was damned hard work.

So, back to wargames I went. And to computer games as well.

Some computer games got my goat too, though. It often seemed like my AI opponent must be cheating, because I'd be clobbered from out of nowhere. Once again I was trying to entertain myself with something that turned out to be hard, unforgiving work. That didn't make sense, and it wasn't fun.

Wargames were different. Except for the rare designed-for-solitaire game, I was always playing both sides against each other. Many gamers scoff at that, but it was perfect for me. It meant setting up my own challenges and meeting them as best I could. It meant creating and playing out the scenarios I wanted to try. It meant experimenting as I liked, always learning more and more. And best of all perhaps, it meant I'd win and lose every game; there was a perfect balance there. The game was never too hard for me; I was never outmatched.

The only downside of board wargames was that they were clunky in comparison to computer games--especially when played solo. In a two-player wargame, you and your opponent share the setup and take-down tasks, and you also take turns. When you play that game solitaire, it takes twice as long to set the game up or put it away, and you have to make all the moves for both sides. Because of that, I drifted toward playing more and more computer games in spite of my above-mentioned frustration with them.

Luckily, there was an easy fix for the frustration. Most computer games could be adjusted to various difficulty levels. If I lost too often on Normal level, I could switch to Easy and start enjoying the game again.

Indeed, that had been the case with Chessmaster 2100 too. My problem there was that I'd always win on Novice level but always lose badly on the next level up, Intermediate. There were no degrees in between.

With the passing years, software improved. Today I can find chess software that not only has many grades of difficulty but also numerous chess "personalities" (styles) to play against. A decent program will evaluate my skill and automatically set me up with a suitable match, pitting me against slightly stronger opponents as my skill develops.

Enough time has gone by that those sour grapes I had turned away from are beginning to look sweet again. Inspired in part by an online article, "Is Chess a Wargame?" I've been gingerly stepping around the base of the vine, playing quick games of chess on low difficulty settings. I've been winning and patting myself on the back, trying to rebuild my courage.

Meanwhile, I've also been getting back into board wargames again. A ten-year hiatus ended about three years ago, when I found that there are some reasonably small, simple wargames around that are actually pretty darned fun to play.

Unfortunately, I'm partial to tactical wargames, and those are usually the most fiddly and complicated. If I tackle even a moderately complex wargame, I have a bunch of rules to learn. And the older I get, the more resistant I am to learning new rules. So I keep buying more wargames, but they just sit for long periods of time while I'm psyching myself up to learn the rules, set up the game, and play. I'm good once a game is under way, but between games I worry and procrastinate.

Chess, in contrast, is a game I already know. No rules to learn, and on the computer it sets up instantly. I'm just afraid to play. I'm liable to do something stupid again and damn myself as a blathering idiot.

My lifelong struggle with chess and wargames is parallel to another two sometimes hobbies: music and languages.

At times I've taken up a musical instrument with the intention of learning to play it reasonably well. The most recent in that series is the tin whistle. I have several whistles and a small stack of music books beside me right now. But they've been there a few years, and I'm still just a beginner. I'd like to be able to play well, but I can't make myself practice every day for any length of time. I'll stick with it for a couple weeks or so, then start skipping days. And without my realizing it, weeks and then months will go by without practice.

It's the same with chess.

On another nearby table is a stack of foreign-language books. They're bookmarked because for a long while I was diligently studying those languages. But I haven't touched the books in months, and it must be a year or so since I've listened to recordings of the languages in my car during my daily commute. Looking at the stack of books now, I balk. It's too much work to delve in and study such things. The grammar is too complicated, the vocabulary too big. It all takes so much time.

Just as with wargames.

I'd love to be good at all these things--the Irish whistle, chess, languages, and wargames. But practice?

I'm afraid to practice the whistle; I'll hit too many sour notes and get discouraged all over again. I'm afraid to practice chess too; there's a good chance I'll blunder away yet another game and conclude that I just have no aptitude for it.

As to languages, I can't find the time to practice them. It's just as hard to find the time to set up and practice wargames. After a long day's work--and an evening workout, and supper, and washing dishes, and exchanging at least a few pleasantries with my wife--it's nearly bedtime. Then on weekends there are always chores to do and errands to run.

Between fear building up and time running out, I don't stand a chance of doing any of the things I'd love to do. Not unless I find a good dose of courage and inspiration somewhere. Or just swallow my pride, make time, and start taking action.

I suppose it all comes back around to something I've been trying to work on lately--dropping the ego and lightening up. That goes sharply against my grain--against the habits I've built up over a lifetime. But a quote from G. K. Chesterton keeps haunting me these days: "If a thing is worth doing, it is worth doing badly."

In a similar vein is the chorus from a Leonard Cohen song:

"Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in."
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Wouldn't it be boring if you did everything perfectly the first time you tried it? A lot of the fun and interest in something is seeing if you can do better (or different) than you did before. Try thinking of it as exploring rather than mastering.

As for music (and other arts), the beauty of it often comes from doing things differently than others do...
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For my high school yearbook quote, I chose this which I read in "Soul of a New Machine":

Not everything worth doing is worth doing well.

I like that version better than Chesterton's.

Perhaps a question to ask yourself is "Why?" Why do you want to learn how to play a musical instrument, or to speak another language? Why do you want to play chess or wargames? Is it to have fun while learning? To have fun while playing after you have learned? To impress others? To put a checkmark on your "What I accomplished this life" list?

Given your introversion, music seems like an ironic choice. Would you play for yourself, for others, or even with others in a group?

As for languages, if you just want the mental exercise, you could try an artificial language like Esperanto. You can learn Esperanto in probably 1/10th the time of a "normal" language. (There are actually dozens of newer, arguably "better" constructed languages to choose from, but more people know Esperanto than any other). But as with music, the normal goal of language is to interact with other people, and how much fun would that be for you?
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Wouldn't it be boring if you did everything perfectly the first time you tried it?

Probably. It'd likely be a living hell, come to think of it. But I'd still love to be a "child prodigy" at something.

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A lot of the fun and interest in something is seeing if you can do better (or different) than you did before. Try thinking of it as exploring rather than mastering.

I do--when I remember to. And that change of attitude does make the experience joyful. There have been times when I've managed to get my ego out of the way and lose a game of chess with grace and wonder and interest. The losing didn't matter at all; it was fascinating to watch how I was losing--to gain new insights into the game. In such moments, I get the sense that what I'm learning has value far beyond the game; it applies to my whole life.

All too often, though, I can't think beyond playing to win. I expect my mind and skill to carry me through the trials to victory; and I'm devastated when that doesn't happen.

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As for music (and other arts), the beauty of it often comes from doing things differently than others do...

True. But there's different, and there's different. If my unique style of playing the Irish whistle makes my wife run for the ear plugs, that's a kind of different we can both probably do without.
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peakhope wrote:
Perhaps a question to ask yourself is "Why?" Why do you want to learn how to play a musical instrument, or to speak another language? Why do you want to play chess or wargames? Is it to have fun while learning? To have fun while playing after you have learned? To impress others? To put a checkmark on your "What I accomplished this life" list?

OMG, don't get me started on "why"! I live there constantly, and it's the very thing that has me waffling over everything all the time and leads to these wordy blog posts and all. Soul-searching has pretty much been my whole life. I've spent a lifetime just trying to decide what to do with my life--and why.

The answer to Why? is always complex. Yes, it's everything you named above, and more besides. When it comes to anything I put a lot of attention on, I always want it to mean more and be more than it can probably ever really mean or be.

I pretty much make a religion out of anything I deem important or worthwhile. And then I ignore everything else in life until it comes around and bites me, demanding my attention.

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Given your introversion, music seems like an ironic choice. Would you play for yourself, for others, or even with others in a group?

It's just like anything else I've ever done as a hobby--coin collecting, photography, drawing, writing, gaming, or whatever. I start out thinking, Ooh, that looks cool. I'd really like to be good at that. I like the idea of it so much that I'm willing to get into it and work at it every day--make it a big part of my life, a statement about who I am. Once I begin, somewhere in the back of my mind I might be daydreaming about sharing it with others someday, in some way--but only after I've built up some proficiency on my own.

When I first took up the Irish whistle, my wife got interested too. We played some duets, and she accompanied me on the guitar once (though she's a beginner at that). But then she started talking about how maybe we could pick a few songs and practice them and then perform them for friends or at a local club or somewhere. And I balked at that. To my mind, we were so far from being able to do that that it wasn't even worth considering. I'd have to practice for years before I'd do anything like that. The fact that she was already thinking of performing for others shocked me. To her, it was a good movitator; to me it was scary and discouraging and made me want to give up and do something else instead.

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As for languages, if you just want the mental exercise, you could try an artificial language like Esperanto. You can learn Esperanto in probably 1/10th the time of a "normal" language. (There are actually dozens of newer, arguably "better" constructed languages to choose from, but more people know Esperanto than any other). But as with music, the normal goal of language is to interact with other people, and how much fun would that be for you?

That's the catch-22 for sure. For some strange reason, all my life I've been choosing hobbies that lead to interaction with others, yet I've been determined to pursue those hobbies strictly on my own--at least until I developed enough skill that I'd feel competent.

To my mind, learning languages is just part of being a well-rounded, educated person. I want to be someone who knows a few languages, just because that's the kind of person I see myself becoming. As to the practical application of that knowledge, it's almost irrelevant to me. I suppose there are day-to-day uses for it, but I don't care about that; I only care about developing my own capabilities.

I have had a few opportunities to put my language skills to use over the yesrs. A couple times, we had Spanish-speaking visitors to our office, and I was called upon to give tours. Though I was struggling to remember the words and grammar, I got by and did OK. Just yesterday, a coworker brought me a Spanish letter to translate, and I was able to do it on the fly, without a dictionary or anything. I took a small measure of pride in that. Oh, and a few months ago some friends from Quebec showed up at a seminar; so, just for fun, I greeted them in French. Much to my surprise and delight, one of them automatically switched to French, as if talking with a native speaker--and I understood her!

Other times, though, I've seriously butchered the language and ended up feeling very foolish. I prefer sticking to just reading.

As I've said before, I'm really very much a people person. That's why most everything I consider applying myself to involves interacting with others in some way. I just want to finish "creating myself" on my own before I venture forth and present that creation to the world. I don't want the world seeing the awkward, half-formed "me" that I'm still working on.

In short, I'm vain. My ego gets in the way. And that's what I like about the Chesterton quote; it twists an old saying in a way that wrings all the ego out of it. Venture to do something important, even knowing you'll do it badly, and at least you're being true to yourself and honest with others. As to improvement, there will be time for that. But there won't be any end to it. Perfection is just pie in the sky.

That's one of the big things I think I still need to learn or get used to.
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To sum up your answer. Why? Proficiency.

Interesting.
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"Tiger mother" Amy Chua has said that "nothing is fun until you’re good at it." But as an adult, and presumably lacking a domineering Asian mother to crack the whip, it's tough to muster the follow-through needed to learn a new skill, especially ones as formidable as those you mention. Certainly, almost anything would be fun if you were really exceptional at it, but unless you have an iron will or some great motivating force behind you, the converse is of Mrs. Chua's quote would probably be more applicable; you won't get good at anything that isn't fun.

I've often found my self-image to be at odds with my actual temperament. I didn't really play many board games growing up, but once I discovered them, I committed myself to learning Go. I took very little joy in this task, and eventually gave up in disgust. Defeated, I figured I'd give Chess a try, despite regarding it as being an inferior game than Go (an opinion based solely on perusing this site). As it turned out, I was no better at Chess than Go, but the difference was that I instantly took a great liking to it. I didn't have to force myself to slog through games for the sole benefit of some sparkling Future Me; I could enjoy it in the here and now. Now, I certainly can't claim to be good at Chess, but, because I enjoy the game, I'll continue to play it. And as long as I continue to do so, gradual improvement is a given.

Frankly -and forgive me if I have the wrong impression- it sounds to me like your current hobbies aren't quite doing it for you, and perhaps you've looked for love in all the wrong places. Your true passion could still be out there, possibly something you would never even venture to consider. You're clearly a very cerebral person, so you'd naturally be drawn to cerebral activities, but those might not provide you with what you need out of a hobby, or at least not all of what you need. Perhaps your great passion could be river rafting, or indoor rock climbing, or target shooting, or skiing.

My Go/Chess example was ill-fitting for the point I'm trying to make. If I were left to my own devices, I'd spend my free time doing nothing but gaming, reading books, listening to music, et cetera. But far and away, the hobbies I'm most passionate about, the ones I've gotten the most sheer pleasure from, are contrary to my personality, and don't quite mesh with my self-perception either. I chose to try them initially, but beyond that, it was the hobbies that stuck with me, not the other way around.
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Throughout life, as I have eliminated "shoulds", I have been happier. Obviously I have obligations, and there are things I "must" do to survive and thrive in modern life. But shedding duties that I "should" do because society says I should, or because my inner programming says I should, can be quite a relief.

If I had a hobby that started to own me, and not be fun, I would drop it. (And arguably I have done so at times.)

I have an odd personality where I am very focused on living in the now, but I'm also always preparing for the future. I guess the distinction is that I'm not living for future goals...rather I'm trying to find ways to be prepared for future eventualities, without giving up happiness in the present.

So for me, the goal of being proficient in something is not compelling at all, unless a) it is achievable in reasonable time, and b) has very tangible benefits. Thus for me, learning chess or music or French just to be able to know/say that I am proficient in it is pointless. I'll only learn French if I'm moving to France, or if the act of learning French is itself fun. And in fact I learned Glosa[1] because doing so was fun, and because at the time I hoped it would have practical benefits.

Introspection is great fun, and it's fun to peer inside other peoples' minds at times, rather than always into my own. Thanks Patrick.

[1] Glosa ( http://glosa.org/en/index.html) is one of the simplest IALs (International Auxiliary Langauges), along the lines of Esperanto, but probably 2-5 times easier (for me) to learn. I can't really recommend Glosa as a practical option, but it was a great diversion for me, for a while. Learning it (and other IAL's) helped me really learn Spanish later.
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In the Jungian prototype of 16 personalities, as described by Keirsey in "Please Understand Me", there's at least one that is "always trying to find himself" or herself. They never do, of course, life is about the trying, not the finding. Do you by any chance fall into one of those personalities?
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peakhope wrote:
As for languages, if you just want the mental exercise, you could try an artificial language like Esperanto. You can learn Esperanto in probably 1/10th the time of a "normal" language. (There are actually dozens of newer, arguably "better" constructed languages to choose from, but more people know Esperanto than any other).

More people know modern Hebrew and Indonesian, for example, than Esperanto. But somehow people don't know or don't agree that modern Hebrew and Indonesian are also "constructed languages" in the sense of being intentional language projects started by basically one person. (Some will protest "but they obviously drew from existing languages!" As if Esperanto didn't?)

The whole notion of "artificial" or "constructed" language is fuzzy anyway. As if any language is not ultimately artificial or constructed! Did English and German and Chinese naturally appear in nature, independent of humans and human activity?

I'm reminded of the joke that "A language is a dialect with an army and navy"...

Anyway, I also recommend checking out Esperanto. It was quite positively life-changing in my case.
 
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Thanks for the excellent clarifications Russ.
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In the Jungian prototype of 16 personalities, as described by Keirsey in "Please Understand Me", there's at least one that is "always trying to find himself" or herself. They never do, of course, life is about the trying, not the finding. Do you by any chance fall into one of those personalities?

I do indeed. (Incidentally, I've also spent quite a bit of time studying and discussing Keirsey; for five years I ran a Yahoo! discussion group on the topic.)

I'm an INFP. Keirsey has labeled NFs "Idealists" and does say they (we) are always trying in vain to find ourselves. It's a paradox: we want more than anything to just be authentic, yet we're determined to know and even participate in creating that authentic self; but it's not truly authentic if it's consciously created--that makes it artificial. Hence, in trying to find ourselves, we're always unwittingly defeating our own purpose.

Yet, I trust that all's well in the universe and that there's ultimately some value in even this strange journey.
 
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I also recommend checking out Esperanto. It was quite positively life-changing in my case.

Maybe this isn't the place to ask, but I'll do it anyway:

In what ways has Esperanto been of such value to you? Do you find practical uses for it? Is it a shared interest that puts you in touch with like-minded people? Do you think it does some great social good, as its founder hoped it would?

I kinda like the idea behind Esperanto. When I was studying Chinese, I also liked noticing that its written language could be used as a universal written language, since people who could not understand each other's spoken languages could communicate perfectly well in writing if they both knew Chinese. (Unfortunately written Chinese is so darned complicated that it'd never take.)

I've approached language study in various ways. Most recently I've been sticking to the languages I encounter most often (usually in reading, but sometimes in speech as well): French, Italian, German, and Spanish. Three of those are similar enough that there's plenty of crossover to help with learning. German is harder, but English is a Germanic language, and that probably helps. (Also, a coworker in a nearby cubicle is German, and I often hear her speaking German on the phone.)
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Maybe this isn't the place to ask, but I'll do it anyway:

It's your blog, so I'll trust your judgment about asking here!

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The most obvious practical wonderful effect for me is that I wouldn't be married to a2na and living in Poland if not for Esperanto.
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Depending on one's definition of "practical".
* I've earned money doing translation work to/from Esperanto. ("Money" seems a frequent measure of "practical"...)
* I've played various boardgames in Esperanto with people from many countries. It is especially culturally/linguistically interesting to play something like Dixit with people with whom I share a common language (Esperanto) but not a common national language or national culture. Usually when people play Dixit, they all have common cultural references, e.g. books or TV shows they all watched as kids, etc.
* I've read all kinds of literature and non-fiction that I wouldn't have otherwise (i.e. things which aren't translated into English, the only other language I know well enough to easily read.) E.g. I recently read an intriguing suspenseful thought-provoking novel by a Hungarian author which AFAIK only exists in Esperanto, about a Nazi war criminal who has been doing great work for the Red Cross for several decades and then is discovered and revealed; he impulsively travels back to the small northern Italian village where the incident occurred 30 years before. It was inspired on some real-life similar event (according to the author's note at the end.)
* I've discovered various music I love which I wouldn't have otherwise (and whose lyrics I certainly wouldn't have understood if I had discovered the songs somehow).
* Interacting with other Esperanto speakers really exposes me to other languages and cultures in a way different from speaking English with people.
* I've learned tons about linguistics, translation, sexism and other issues in language, etc due to the interest that was sparked in me and the opportunity to talk to people from various countries and backgrounds and specialties.
* I've learned a lot of fascinating history (both about Esperanto and not about Esperanto) which I'd not have learned otherwise.
* I had the joy of becoming competent in a language other than English, after years of supposing that would never happen. (Sadly I've still not achieved that joy with Polish, though I continue to progress, albeit slowly.)
* Did I mention that I landed myself an excellent wife? Granted, this is probably not a priority for you now.

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Yes. On the obvious level of "what if everyone learned Esperanto?", it would of course bring much practical benefit: expecting everyone to learn English (or Chinese or any other national language) is neither fair nor realistic. National languages are much harder and native speakers have a huge advantage.

But the language is more than just its grammar and vocabulary; there is indeed a shared culture and history among Esperanto speakers - why does someone decide to learn Esperanto instead of some other language? The ideals of peace, tolerance, interest in other cultures and languages and literature, and so on are part of it.

Indeed there are plenty of Esperantists who don't care about the original goal of encouraging the whole world to learn Esperanto, because the existing culture is pleasing as it is, and if everyone learned it, then it would inevitably be quite different and lose some of its existing magic. A loose analogy would be any other small diasporic language, e.g. Yiddish, not specific to one geographical place but scattered about. Yiddish culture would inevitably become quite different if (for some reason) everyone started learning it. Or like what happens when your favorite little cool restaurant suddenly becomes incredibly popular and starts opening franchises everywhere and is no longer the same wonderful place... I.e. in some sense the diasporic nature of the language is itself a significant part of its culture - and different people have different ideas about the significance of that fact.

N.B. Despite the stereotype of naive utopianism, most Esperanto speakers don't think that Esperanto per se would end war, etc. Obviously people who speak the same language fluently can still get into fights. I would say that good communication is necessary but not sufficient for avoiding conflict. And I'd say that part of the idea is that the very act of choosing to learn Esperanto indicates an interest in these ideals. E.g. I doubt many KKK or Nazis decide to learn Esperanto.

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Agreed, that is cool. Also apparently Chinese reading ability can help you a lot learning to read Japanese (I've heard from people who know both). I spent 7 months learning Chinese but found it incredibly difficult and slow. I managed to order vegetarian food in restaurants and ask if a book store in Beijing has any go books, and this was about the pinnacle of my success. I've now forgotten it all. :/
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To sum up your answer. Why? Proficiency.

Yes, that's the crux of it, I guess. Good observation.

It's a two-edged sword, though. On one hand, I don't want to face off with an opponent until I've gained some degree of proficiency; in fact, I'm reluctant to play a game at all until then. But of course proficiency can't be had without practice. And there's the rub. That's why I've always wished I could turn out to be a "child prodigy" at something--i.e., discover that I'm such a natural at such-and-such a game (or musical instrument or foreign language or whatever) that I don't need to study or practice.

Barring that, the next best thing for me is studying and practicing on my own, in private, with the vague intention of eventually coming forth and strutting my stuff.

Even practicing on my own usually ends up being discouraging, though. It takes more time and effort than I wish it would. Just last night, I played a rated game of chess on my DS, lost badly to an AI opponent rated at only 830 or so, and spent several minutes calling myself a hopeless moron and telling myself I ought to stick to Candyland or tic-tac-toe.

Then I played another game against the same opponent and won pretty easily, proving I can succeed at that level or beyond if I take my time and pay attention. But the thing is, I want to succeed at that level without having to take my time or pay attention. I should be able to just make quick, half-thought-out moves and win anyway. By now I ought to know the game that well and have that kind of facility with it.

My wife just shakes her head at all my "shoulds" and "ought tos." She says things are the way they are. That doesn't help when the way things are includes me being too stupid, unskilled, or impatient to accomplish what I set out to do.
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Yeah, that's easy for me to say.
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Most of life's unhappiness is rooted in unmet expectations. Change your expectations, change your life.

Yeah, that's easy for me to say.

It's hard for me because anytime someone says, "Change your expections," I hear "Lower your standards." Unhappiness and perpetual struggle seem preferable to settling for mediocrity.

Compartmentalizing my life helps, though. No one can excel at everything. I can live with mediocrity in a dozen areas of my life as long as there's something I excel at.

I just wish that something could be chess. I like that it's so neatly measurable--elo ratings and all. There are no such ratings to tell me how good a husband or son or brother I am, how my spiritual life is going, or how well I'm spending my time overall.

Maybe I should have ignored chess and focused on getting rich. That's another measurable thing. If I had excelled at that, I'd have a nice pile of money as confirmation of my success.

I probably wouldn't have done any better at that than I have at chess, though.

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I just wish that something could be chess. I like that it's so neatly measurable--elo ratings and all. There are no such ratings to tell me how good a husband or son or brother I am, how my spiritual life is going, or how well I'm spending my time overall.

The following occurred to me as sort of a light-hearted response, but then I realized it also could work as a sincere and in some sense useful response:

At the end of each day, mentally review the day and think of something you did that you felt was good (nice, skillful, loving, etc). If you can think of something, give yourself a point.

There you go: neat measurable daily ratings over time!



(Somewhat inspired by a similar practice of reviewing the day and thinking of 5 things one is thankful for.)
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Patrick Carroll wrote:
It's hard for me because anytime someone says, "Change your expections," I hear "Lower your standards." Unhappiness and perpetual struggle seem preferable to settling for mediocrity.

I can understand that, but given the choice between High Standards that rarely get met, or Low Standards that often get exceeded, I'm happier with the latter scenario.

Disappointments make me unhappy. Unexpected bonuses delight me.

Mediocrity doesn't have to be a bad thing. Modest contentment is underrated.

But that's just me. You'll have to find what works for you. I love Russ's idea.
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