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Kevin Canada
United States
Birmingham
Alabama
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Jul 2015
I wish there was more room on the *western* side of the map. I like the game, but as the Austrians, I don't get that same sense of strategic purpose I do as the French. Maybe that's the point, but it makes game play a little unsatisfactory. 30 years ago I'd have rated this a "9", but the evolution of both graphics and game concepts (e.g., vedettes) has led to it not holding up as well as its more recent companions (NaB-system).
2015-07-17
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Mike Smith
United Kingdom
Wigton
Cumbria
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Too badly flawed for saving I think. In this game you can't do the opening historical southern flanking move by the French because the route lies off the southern edge of the map! Zucker must have been asleep on the job.
2014-11-30
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eric iven
Switzerland
Mollens
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8.1
Nov 2014
Of course a nice game,and a good simulation altough it is not so fun to play alone (admin,force march etc..)
Many thanks to the team which revised the rule for the serie.
2014-11-27
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Ron Taylor
United States
Henniker
New Hampshire
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2014-10-13
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George Pearson
United States
Hialeah
Florida
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Jun 2014
Another in Kevin Zucker's superb Campaigns of Napoleon series. A difficult campaign to simulate, but this game does as good a job as any. Both sides get to attack and defend. French army just past it's peak, and a massive Austrian army with initial numbers and surprising staying power.
2014-06-23
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Jeb
United States
San Jose
California
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Vassal Module
2013-05-15
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Magister Ludi
Australia
Fremantle
Western Australia
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Dec 2007*
This is one of my favourite campaigns, but difficult to game and give the Austrians much of a chance. The French simply have too many superior leaders.

Map looks very good when set out covering the entire Danube valley...luckily we have a long table!

Have made a start on the historical campaign. Davout is not as exposed as the historical accounts suggest and can pack quite a punch. Maybe the Austrians should be given the benefit of the first move?

Toured Munich and parts of Bavaria and then to Vienna in May 2010, didn't get a really good look at any main battle spots, but got a feel for the topography and look of the Danube valley.
2012-11-21
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Italy
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Oct 2012
Ottimo. Una lunga corsa verso Vienna. Alla genialità del giocatore francese quando passare il Danubio.......
2012-10-31
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Severus Snape
Canada
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May 2009*
1809 Napoleon’s Danube Campaign This Victory Game by Kevin Zucker was a forerunner to the OSG designs that followed in its path. The heart of the system consists of 1) maneuvering, 2) your centre of operations, 3) your supply lines/lines of communication, and 4) leadership. There’s more marching than fighting, with a fair chance that a larger numbers of strength points will fall to attrition than fall in battle. Knowing when and how far to move your centre of operations and your supply source are keys to success or failure. Of chess, Bobby Fischer once said, "you have to know when to punch and when to duck." The same is true in this game, but be prepared to duck more than punch until the Austrians get squeezed from west to east. If you prefer a heavier emphasis on fighting, this game is probably not for you, with the CRT somewhat of a standard snoozer. The campaign game begins in April and ends in July, so opportunities abound for "on the job training." If you want to learn the art of maneuver, give this and Zucker’s similar OSG designs a try. You’ll need space for the three maps and the game charts.

Well, it took an arm (the left) and a leg (the right, in order to have some sort of attractive symmetrical [or is it asymmetrical?] pattern), but I found and purchased a copy of James R. Arnold's "Crisis on the Danube." This is probably THE best book on the first part of the Austrian Campaign of 1809 (think OSG's "Seven Days of 1809").

After a quick read (a re-reading will be necessary), I've come away with the feeling that the Austrians may be too strong in the OSG versions of the game. Hard to believe, I know, given how the outcome seems a forgone conclusion in this campaign.

The "problem," if that is the correct term, is not in the unit strengths, but in the commanders' abilities, particularly their individual initiatives. Arnold's book left me with the impression that the average Austrian soldier fought hard and fought well. The seeds of defeat lie in the command structure. Arnold holds no punches when it comes to pointing out the tactical misques of the Austrian generals; good men were badly led. Even my hero, the Archduke Karl/Charles does not escape criticism. Arnold raises doubt about Charles' epilepsy (quoting a letter from Rothenberg in a footnote, but this "proof" is weak, because there is no first-hand supporting evidence).

It all proves most interesting and good food for thought. When I play particular campaigns, I always try to read good literature to go with the game. Given the scarcity of both good books and the funds to acquire them, this is a challenge in and of itself.

As far as concerns ("complaints") about Zucker's attrition rules, I have learned to not move units the maximum distance (try moving 4 hexes instead of 5). I would challenge anyone to find a better designer for this level of Napoleonic warfare. As far as an alleged French bias, try playing Highway to the Kremlin; the French attrition loses are heavier than the Russians, something built into the system (to mirror the historical campaign).

For further supporting evidence that there is no "pro-French" bias, try doing some reading into the campaign. If anything, you might come away thinking Zucker has a pro-Austrian bias. The Austrian army fought hard and it fought bravely, but all for naught given the grave weaknesses in its leadership.
2012-10-08
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Glen Ashton
Canada
Nepean
Ontario
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writing a book on the Eastern Front
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punched, nice copy, photos available
2012-10-07
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Mark Meck
United States
Sinking Spring
Pennsylvania
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Complete
2012-08-09
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jesus amor
Spain
barcelona
España
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bought in ebay 27042012.
2012-04-27
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Jay Taylor
United States
Louisiana
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Feb 2012
Like the campaign series. This one was interesting.
2012-04-03
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UBC Wargamers
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Cabinet 17.
2012-02-15
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Tom Veal
United States
Chicago
Illinois
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Napoleonic Wars > Campaign of 1809
2011-11-14
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Randy C
United States
Chicago
Illinois
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VG
2011-09-27
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Mark Gray
United States
Glenwood Springs
Colorado
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Jan 2007*
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2011-07-07
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George Falconer
Canada
Winnipeg
Manitoba
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I have yet to play this, but enjoy Zucker's other Napoleonic games. This one sure does look nice.
2011-03-30
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Andreas E. Gebhardt
Germany
Birkenwerder
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Sep 2008*
Part of Kevin Zucker's superb Campaigns of Napoleon-Series (CNS-1x) - depicting the French forces on their way towards Austria. Meanwhile pushing Austrian forces at their will...

Napoleonic Warfare on operational level (regimental/brigade-size).

A must for all the Napoleon-Grognards

2011-01-25
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Rob Seabrook
United States
Saint Paris
Ohio
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New, unpunched, never played.
2011-01-04
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Eric Walters
United States
Chesterfield
Virginia
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"...the art of manoeuvering armies...an art which none may master by the light of nature. but to which, if he is to attain success, a man must serve a long apprenticeship." -- G.F.R. Henderson
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Dec 2010
There's little competition regarding a simulation of the full 1809 campaign between France and Austria; this is it. A Kevin Zucker design beautifully produced by Victory Games, the only drawback is that it is extremely difficult for the Hapsburgs to win against Napoleon, between equally experience players. As a study of the campaign, the game has no equal despite this limitation. Between two unequal players, the better must take the Austrians.

While the game is over a quarter century old, no other titles have attempted to supersede it. That bears testament enough to the quality of the game.
2010-12-13
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oscar ruiz
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Me faltan reglas originales y un display de despliegue.
2010-12-12
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Gerardo Peinador
Spain
Madrid
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Apr 2008*
Con traduccion las generales
2010-05-01
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M Stumptner
Australia
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Jun 2007*
Ho-hum entry in a famous series. Not much space to do anything at the Abensberg/Eckmuehl end, apparently never storyboarded to test if the historical moves are even possible (!), and the combat system is not really suited to battles of this size.
2010-01-04
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Canada
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Apr 2010
Rating based on the series
2009-12-10
Owned
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John Panagotopulos
United States
New Jersey
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Victory Games 1984
2009-11-12
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Steve Lieske
United States
Boise
Idaho
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2009-06-05
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Darrell Pavitt
United Kingdom
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Apr 2009*
I liked this more than most people seem to.
2009-04-29
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Matt Ward
United States
Richmond
Virginia
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I played this a long time ago but did not have a particularly memorable time. As a result I will need to get this one out again before I rate it. It is a typical Kevin Zucker design but it is a great topic and one that deserves more plays.
2009-02-16*
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Juho Jarvelin
Finland
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Feb 2009*
Game itself 8, map 4
2009-02-13*
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Pedro Lopez
Spain
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Sin jugarlo aun.
2008-11-08*
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bob kalinowski
United States
Saint Charles
Missouri
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5.5
Sep 2008*
I respect the system and the research, but as a game, it's a long row to hoe for the Austrians. I've played it 4 times about the whole way, and despite several different attempts at alternate Aus strategies, the outcome never seems in doubt. An excellent simulation, but not too exciting as a game.
2008-09-09*
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arguimbau stephane
France
ales
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2008-06-01*
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Terry Hogan
Australia
Wamboin
NSW
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Apr 2008*
Tried to play this once but found it too complex and cumbersome (map is very large) and not very entertaining. I imagine I will not play it again.
2008-04-01*
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David Hughes
Australia
Northbridge
NSW
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Mar 2008*
The French have the possibility to make some very strong, unhistoric opening moves, the graphics are dated, the rulebook is no better than functional, the game itself is difficult to set up - over 7 feet long - and even then the map excludes much of what was interesting about the campaign.

Nevertheless, Capmpaigns of Napoleon is a superb system which can withstand even these kind of production mistakes
2008-03-11*
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Jimmy Shaftoe
Hong Kong
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This was the first wargame I ever bought.......still waiting to be played 20 plus years later. This isn`t any comment on the game. I was in way over my head at the time. One day soon.
2008-01-22*
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Mike Riley
United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota
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Would really like to play this one . . .
2008-01-16*
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David Black
United States
APO
AE
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7.5
Jan 2008*
A very playable entry in the "Napoleon at Bay" stable.
2008-01-05*
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Dave Rubin
United States
Trenton
New Jersey
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Jan 2008*
Zucker CoN game. I rate this a little lower than the others in the series primarily because the Bohemian option is not really within the scope of this game, and secondarily because the standard VG graphics (hyper-colorful map, bland counters) is something we do not expect to find in a Napoleonic game.
2008-01-02*
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Elwyn Darden
United States
Richmond
Virginia
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Jul 2007*
Far more than other games in the series this one tends to boil down to one climactic battle. The genius of the Napoleon at Bay family of games is that you spend your time trying to set up the right battle at the right time in the right place with the right forces: you aren't attacking everywhere all the time, nor are you passively defending. It is just that this game can take 3 hours, 3 maps and additional charts and literally yield a single memorable engagement.
2007-07-12*
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Arnold Neumann
Canada
St. Albert
Alberta
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Jun 2007*
Love the theme in this game. Not sure if the Austrians can win though...
2007-06-20*
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Dan Jenkins
Canada
Ottawa
Ontario
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Jun 2007*
I think that the ratings description says it all: "average game, slightly boring, take it or leave it."
2007-06-15*
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Lloyd Krassner
United States
Palm Coast
Florida
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Unplayed. Bought used. Used for Research. May be missing counters.
2006-08-22*
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Walter OHara
United States
Burke
Virginia
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Jun 2006*
Not the greatest of the Victory Bunch. You have to like Zucker's operational designs to like this one.
2006-06-30*
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Nick West
Scotland
Colinton
Edinburgh
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6.5
Sep 2005*
A fine game system. Worthy of a 9 rating but for, as in most of the series showing a bias in favour of the French side in how the numbers work out.

Try and move the Austrian units in a historical manner from where they are in the early set to where they are in the latter. It is virtually impossible without driving them into the ground due to attrition. This is a consistent failing - Napoleon at Bay can be tested with the same results between historical strengths and positions at different dates.

Would swap for OSG/VG Bonaparte in Italy.
2005-09-30*
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Jim Pulles
Canada
Regina
Saskatchewan
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Aug 2005*
One of my favourite Napoleonic board games. Taking his more complex 'Napoleon at Bay' system, Kevin Zucker has trimmed the game to a playable, fun game that plays in about 3 hours without sacrificing any of the Napoleonic flavour.
2005-08-31*
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Kevin Lees
United Kingdom
Channel Islands
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2005-01-09*
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Giuseppe Cossiga
Italy
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Jan 2005*
Same system as "Napoleon at bay" or "Struggle of Nations"; maybe the less interesting in the series...
2005-01-06*
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Paul Denhup
United States
Alexandria
Virginia
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7.5
Mar 2004*
Good feel for Napoleonic warfare. Kevin Zucker is a master of simulating Napoleonic tactics. Command, control and operations make a tense game. Hook this one up with Zucker's new (2003) release, The Sun of Austerlitz, for an ultimate campaign: the maps will actually fit together. Clever.
2004-03-03*
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Eric Smith
United States
Philadelphia
PA
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I haven't played this game, but I remember when we were developing it at Victory Games and the work that Mark Herman put into. I suspect that it is an excellent game, and I love the long map configuration. One day, I hope to get a chance to play this game face to face with someone. I remember watching the playtest games and it just looked like a great time.
2003-10-04*
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