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John Dextraze
Canada
Ottawa
Ontario
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10
Dec 2014
After 3 plays this is what I think:

Fun 10/10
Theme vs reality 10/10
Player interaction 9/10
Last turn tension 9/10
Look 10/10
Originality 10/10
Replayability 10/10
Rules 10/10 intuitive
Sweetspot 5 players 10/10, 4 player 9/10, 3 player 8/10

This is an amazing game. It is economic war in a box. It plays smoothly. Those in your group that are walking calculators will love this game however they are not guarenteed a win because there is the slightest of unknown in the game which means they need to have more than a calculator. They must have intuition and business savvy. There are several layers to this game that make it a joy to replay and will not be visible on your first play. This game is worth owning even if you own Indonesia. IMHO Automobile is a much better economic game than Wealth of Nations or Containers, such that I won't even play those games again. My collection is about owning 10's and 9 not 8s and below.

This game is a gamers game however it is easily teachable to someone who has graduated from gateway games. In other words this would be an excellent economic game for the intermediate gamer.

Time it takes to play is excellent for the what the game gives back in fun, tension and experience. Martin Wallace has proven himself again to be an excellent designer with this game.

I love this game, it is worth the investment and I recommend it to gamers, Wallace Fans and players that are finished with gateway games.

In short, Automobile is a big game with many little mechanics that work together. It's an exercise in manipulation of turn order and precedence to try and work production and sales together but apart from financial opportunity cost in paying to build unsalable cars the stream of loss cubes from bad decisions doesn't seem so bad. With all the mechanics and special actions and turn order mechanics combined it's a little difficult to get a complete picture of where things are, but there aren't that many really big pointy corners waiting to catch you.

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Despite my poor performance in the critical third turn I’m totally enamored with this game. I haven’t been able to stop thinking about it, and I can’t wait to play again. All of the mechanisms really mesh together well to simulate the feeling of running a business (if not completely thematically, you at least feel like you’re making critical decisions that go straight to your bottom line).

The four turns are structurally identical but each feels different than the last because the relative demand is adjusted between each turn, and players are ramping up their production. Even within a turn the tension really builds, as you try to decide how much to produce, then how to possibly sell everything given what everyone else has produced. When those demand tiles are flipped over it’s actually a tense moment.

2009-06-21
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Rick Stonebraker
United States
Fort Wayne
Indiana
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10
Apr 2011
I liked this game. Bring it on. It seemed just like an automobile dealership would be.
2011-03-03
Owned
Marshall P.
United States
Wichita
Kansas
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10
Aug 2010
Brilliant game. A true economic simulation. Only 12 actions in the game and they are all crucial and tense(not counting character selection and executive decisions just have just as much tension). You need to be looking at least a turn ahead with each action (which is hard to do until you have a few games under your belt).

There is a fine line between conservatism and aggression in this game. Too much of either will lose it for you. You CANNOT play it safe and only produce cars are guaranteed to sell. You MUST take some risk and overproduce and find a way to stick your opponents with the losses. Dramtically over produce though, and you'll be the one eating loss cubes.
2010-12-04
samuel japara
Indonesia
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10
Jun 2009*
AWESOME..!!
2009-06-29
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TJ Stuver
United States
Portage
Michigan
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10
Sep 2013
Does a great job of making you feel like you're running an American car company (not straight to the ground). Sameyness is a long-term concern, but after over a dozen plays, it's still going pretty strong thanks to the variable public demand.

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2010-12-07
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Javi Santos
Spain
sevilla
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10
Oct 2011
Limited edition. Received as a present of my friend Shurti
Pretty difficult to explain, not so much to play if you are used to this kind of games. Economic game with a few things to take into account. It seems to me that you really take actions with a clear purpose, and I like it. You are not driven by your feelings, you can most of the times really think what you need to do. Of course, you may fail... Tree Frog has made a nice production, cars are quite nice, and the board really shows you almost everything in the game.
Not too long, nice to play, very good game, you really feel in the business. Fantastic.
2011-09-26
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Christopher Seguin
United States
Cleveland
Ohio
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10
Jun 2013
Tight, tight, tight. Everything about this game is tight. A well designed game that goes from point A to point B to point C with exact precision, but without being predictable. Choices that you make at the begining of each round are so very important to determining your course of action later in the round.

This game is also a brain-burner. Lots of thinking and planning going on. There is also a great level of player screwage - not enough to make your opponent hate you and never want to play again, but just enough to gain those few extra points that you need to win the game.

An excellent MW design, and probably one of my favorites.
2014-06-06
Owned
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Nick Fisk
United Kingdom
Stoke on Trent
Staffordshire
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10
Sep 2010
Excellent financial game from Martin Wallace. Will always love this one, and tempted to pick up the new version just because it looks so nice!
2011-01-10
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Chris Linneman
Canada
Vancouver
BC
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10
Jul 2009*
Perfect design. So subtly complex, I can play it with gamers and be constantly engaged yet so well-themed and fun that I can play it casually as well. A masterpiece.
2009-07-12
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Neil Palfreyman
United Kingdom
Swindon
Wiltshire
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10
Jun 2009*
What an absolutely brilliant game! A very theme-strong economic game where balance is the key; balancing the elements of the game, evolution of the product market and opponent screwage.

Plenty to think about and some very nice mechanisms, some of which are familiar from Martin's other games. The really interesting bit for me is working out how to screw over your competition without significant detriment to yourself. It can be done but involves some risk taking.

A bit of a brain burner? Could be if you think about it too much but I think it plays just as well if you play with instinct.

Rating based on two plays - one explained by Martin himself at the UK Expo and the second at a local gaming session (for local people.)
2009-06-10
Calvin Le Huray
Jersey
St. Johns
United Kingdom
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10
Mar 2010
Second play and I really enjoyed this game. Very tight and most of the time you feeling like you need a pen and paper to work out the calculations. This is not a game I enjoyed at first but have grown to love it
2014-12-24
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Peter Franke
Germany
Unspecified
Unspecified
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10
Jun 2009*
Excellent - Martin W. must be god!
2009-06-16
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Richard Karlsen
Norway
Stavanger
Unspecified
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10
Jun 2009*
produser max... hver gang!
2009-11-08
M. S.
Germany
Blaustein
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10
Jan 2010*
Great game! I like it a lot. Can`t wait to play it again. It´s one of my favorites from Martin Wallace
2012-03-23
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Chad Marlett
United States
Plymouth
Michigan
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Wherever You Go, There You Are
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With no certain future, and no purpose other than to prevail
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10
Apr 2011
If you are from Detroit, how could you not rank this a ten?

Plus, it really is a great game. Intricate interactions between the various mechanics, combined with the variability of how your opponents act means that every decision is tough and important.

Hall of Records

low/high profit:

3-player: $720 Chad, $3410 Jon
4-player: $560 Chad, $3580 John
5-player: -$140 Mike, $2890 Steve

low/high margin of victory:

3-player: $80 Chad, $2030 Chad
4-player: $140 Matt, $1550 John
5-player: $350 Chad, $800 Steve
2015-01-21
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Chef D
United States
Newtonville
Massachusetts
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10
Jul 2009*
Limited Tree Frog Edition
2014-12-18
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For Trade
Josh P.
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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10
Nov 2009*
Take an economics game. Add variable player powers, some worker placement... all the best mechanics of many different games. Factories you build become obsolete, creating a constant need to upgrade. It's like Lokomotive Werks, but fun! Furthermore, analysis paralysis, the bane of economic games, is kept to a minimum through a light sprinkling of luck. Love it! My copy is the signed, limited edition: 1358 of 1500.
2009-10-15
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Walter E. Kurtz
United States
Austin
Texas
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10
Jul 2012
Good game. Can play fast with decisive players. Excellent simulation in my opinion.
2010-05-08
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Ray Swan
Canada
Winnipeg
Manitoba
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10
Jul 2009*
Love the theme. finally something that is not involving trains or building castles, palaces or some such thing. very good game.
2009-07-24
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Aron
Netherlands
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Life may knock you down sometimes. Its up to you if you stand up and live your life to the fullest.
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10
Mar 2014
Prefer the deluxe one (with wooden cars).
2011-11-23
Chad Brozik
United States
Lexington
Kentucky
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10
Nov 2010
Strategy and economy, tied with Brass for my overall #1 game.
2012-01-11
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Paul Vechercofski
United States
Conshy
Pennsylvania
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10
Sep 2009*
Quite possibly my new favorite game.
2009-09-08
Dave Moss
United Kingdom
Basingstoke
Hants
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10
Jun 2010
A great game from Martin Wallace, deeply tied to the theme, with a lots of challenges for all players to balance. Despite only have a few turns to play, the outcome is usually nailbitingly close
2009-11-25
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Greg Schmittgens
United States
Wichita
Kansas
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10
Mar 2013
One of my 10s
2013-03-28
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Steve Rogers
United States
Hoboken
New Jersey
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10
Apr 2015
An awesome economic game that is different and engaging with the number of players. I really prefer the wood pieces and art of the treefrog edition.
2011-04-15
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Johnny Zheng
China
Shanghai
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10
Dec 2010
Treefrog Limited Edition, No. 1003
2010-11-27
Owned
Bruno Libonati Rocha
Brazil
Curitiba
Paraná
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10
Apr 2011
An amazing economic game, inspired in a great theme.
With classic mechanic meeted in many Wallace's games, the game is heavy and apprhensive, but funny and exciting.
Once more the designer surprised me and I didn't expect more than this!
2012-04-06
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Al Autovino
United States
Sodus
New York
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10
Mar 2011
This is one of the best games I have ever played. Theme and mechanics are matched well! Its an economic game without a stock market.
2011-03-02
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Ken Dilloo
United States
Bothell
Washington
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10
Jan 2013
Wow, big tactical economic game. Really like this one. Feels like you are running a buisness. Cutthroat tactics, lots of big decisions. Mathy, but risk taking is rewarded.
2011-12-15
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我爱桌面游戏像老鼠爱大米
Spain
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10
Jul 2013
Una gozada a cinco. Experimenta lo que es montar y desmontar fábricas echando a los trabajadores a la calle para ganar más dinero...
2013-08-07
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Michael Cheadle
United States
Flushing
Michigan
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10
Apr 2011
Really like this game, I live in flint mi and am very familiar with these names. I like strategy games. Right now its one of few games I can't get enough of.
2011-04-03
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Peter B
United States
North Carolina
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10
Apr 2011
The game distills the essence of decision making as a CEO of an auto company. What markets to I enter? How much do I produce? How much production should I have? Do I deal with salesman in my network with guaranteed demand or do I take risks on general demand? Do I advertise? Do I discount? How many loans do I take out to finance investments?

The game has some simple math but very big decisions. It is a great economic game and one of my favorite Martin Wallance titles. I adore this game and it is one of the best pure business games available.
2013-09-03
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Sarinee Achavanuntakul
Thailand
Bangkok
Select a State
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10
Mar 2012
I didn't know what all the fuss was about Martin Wallace here on BGG until I played Automobile. Now I know why so many people like his games. This is by far one of the best economic/business boardgames ever made. I especially like how the game forces you to continually catch up with technology curve.
2011-08-10
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Michael Kandrac
United States
Grand Prairie
TX
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10
Aug 2012
Being the banker in a four player game was a busy occupation! A game I'd play again but doubt whether I'll ever feel the need to own a copy.

Update: I've evolved to the point where I'm willing to own a game like Automobile. After a two player game with my wife and a thorough study of the game's rules and mechanics, I see this one as one of the great games in my collection. After a 2nd four player game I am delighted with the decision making that confronts the player of the game.
2012-08-19
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Toby Merida
United States
Indianapolis
Indiana
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Aug 2011
A 3-5 player game that bears a modern setting when compared to most of Wallace’s releases. Players are competing in the U.S. auto industry in the early 20th century, purchasing factories that turn out low-, medium- and high-valued vehicles, starting with the 1893 Duryea and moving through history from there.
2011-11-26
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Grzegorz Majewski
Poland
Katowice
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10
Jul 2011
Brilliant game ! Perfectly reflects those times and the industry. Absolute must have for gamers.
2011-07-24
Tony Hamen
United States
Austin
Texas
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10
Jan 2012
This is a wonderful game. The theme matches the mechanics so well. The game is very easy to learn and the strategies aren't too hard to grasp. It is basically the heaviest push your luck game that I own.
2011-11-08
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Darian Tucker
United States
New Smyrna Beach
Florida
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10
Jan 2012
I think I just found my new favorite game. It's funny how I can rag on a game I hate for several paragraphs, but I can find very little to say about games I like. Still, I will try.

I'm an Economics major. Automobile is an economic game. It's an excellent game, and is thus perfect for me.

Damn. I'm not very good at this.
2012-01-23
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Kirk Lim
Hong Kong
Hong Kong
Unspecified
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10
May 2012
No card
2012-06-10
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Toby Merida
United States
Indiana
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May 2012
Automobile is a 3-5 player game that bears a modern setting when compared to most of Wallace’s releases. Players are competing in the U.S. auto industry in the early 20th century, purchasing factories that turn out low-, medium- and high-valued vehicles, starting with the 1893 Duryea and moving through history from there.

Each player knows a portion of the market demand each round and must make his purchasing and manufacturing decisions based on the information. Players can fund distributors across the country, but if they don’t supply distributors with vehicles to sell, they go bankrupt, taking your investment with them. Alternatively, players can drop the prices on their cars to move their market share, or even temporarily improve sales rates at the cost of research. Special action spaces are available that give a player a one-turn special ability with the actions provided by Ford, Durant, Kettering, and others some what related to their actual business history.

As newer models make their way onto the market, they sell at the expense of the older models. Older factories give inefficiency cubes as time passes, encouraging you to keep pace with technology.

To get money, you need to build cars with your factories, but if you build more than there is demand theylose not only the money spend to make them, but gain inefficiency cubes that hurt them for the rest of the game. Whoever manages their car factories the best over this 120-150 minute game will win.
2012-05-14
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Daniel Länsimies
Finland
Kokkola
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10
Dec 2014
Far exceeded my expectations. One of the best economy management games I've played. Bumping rating from 9 to 10 after noticing this game just gets better as time passes and it justifies its stay.
2014-12-17
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Joe Miner
United States
San Antonio
Texas
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10
Jun 2012
With wooden money tiles
2012-06-23
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John "AngryTetris"
United States
Fort Mitchell
Kentucky
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10
May 2013
LOVE.
TRUE LOVE AT LAST
2013-06-20
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Justin Fuhrmann
United States
Spencerville
Ohio
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10
Nov 2014
Trade motivation very low. Only trading because my wife hates the game and won't play it with me.
2013-11-28
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Nicolas Boulo
Canada
Montréal
Québec
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9.8
Jan 2013
Economic efficiency game. The beginings of the automobile industry. Build factories to make & sell cars in the most efficient manner to be the richest at the end of the game.
Martin Wallace
3-5 players

Video Review
slaqr: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/video/7627/automobile/dice-towe...
2014-06-01
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Quinn Munnerlyn
United States
Carrollton
Texas
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9.6
Sep 2010
Fantastic time with this title. I love the supply and demand market going on here and the decisions on building or closing factories at the right times. This is one of those games where you're not going to get the grasp of all of the things going on with just one play yet it is not difficult to understand. This is my pick for game of the year 2008.
2010-03-26
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Bobby Thompson
United States
Elkins
Arkansas
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9.6
Apr 2011
Love the game. My bother-in-law and I had a Business Strategies class simulation in college that was basically this game except we sold computer chips instead of cars. Key is to estimate how many cars you can sell given the market demand. Rules are intuitive and makes for a good weight game that isn't burdened by having to search the rule book.
2011-04-18
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George Falconer
Canada
Winnipeg
Manitoba
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9.6
Jan 2014
Fascinating game of risk management, a real brain burner, you really have to be on your toes.
2013-04-14
Alex Grant
New Zealand
Auckland
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9.5
Sep 2009*
A wonderful economic game, simpler and friendlier than Age of Steam. Very maths-heavy.
2009-09-13
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Marc Guenette
Canada
Laval
Quebec
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9.5
Oct 2009*
My game of the year. Art is not fantastic tho
2009-10-14
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