8.5.13: I don't mind playing. Totally fine mixing it into the games cycle, but, never want to hit it too frequently. I'd simply prefer to play other games. Of course the game is improved by both expansions (I prefer more complex games). For me, I'd only play it with expansions.
8.5.13: Odd game, not sure I really like it but am willing to give it another play or two to see if it clicks more. I think it requires "the right" group of players. I suspect it will be very difficult to get to the table.