Koryo's 18AL graphics package | 18AL

United States
Austin
Texas

Sorry about that. www.winzip.com is what I used to create it. I couldn't get a single large file to upload with out timing out, so I followed the instructions of BGG which suggested segmenting the file. I was assuming that it would be concatenated on the other end, but that didn't happen.

Posted Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:27 am
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Brenden Johnson

(justplainchips)

United States
Lakeville
Minnesota

robcannonsoftware wrote:

So, what program supports multi-volume zip files. 7-Zip does not. Any chance of uploading a single .Zip file, or a multi-volume .RAR file?

I use IZARC and it worked just fine. Part 5 is actually the "first" file, I just unzipped that and IZARC did the rest.

Posted Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:40 am
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Robert Cannon

(robcannonsoftware)

United States
Atlanta
GA

Your new breakout of .ZIP files works great. The graphics are stunning! Excellent job. Are you planning on redoing any of the other games?

Posted Wed Apr 1, 2009 1:41 pm
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Cory Williamson

United States
Austin
Texas

Thank you.

I'm thinking of a certain card based war game.

Posted Tue Apr 7, 2009 7:26 am
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

I put the shares on artscow (54 cards)

http://www.artscow.com/ShareAlbum.aspx?Key=sjg2r4vt

I'll post some pictures when I recieve it

Posted Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:40 am
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Ryan Bigelow

(Bigguyry)

Canada
edmonton

I just wanted to chime in that this is amazing work! Looking forward to seeing your efforts on other games.

Posted Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:10 am
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Ryan Sturm

(RyanSturm)

United States
Lancaster
New York

Very nice work, I am looking forward to printing out my own set. One minor quibble if it was available as a 2 piece 11x17 size paper, that would really help out. Looking into it its going to cost me an extra 30 bucks to get printed at my local kinko's.

Just a thought I don't know how hard that is to do. Or is it possible to do from my end?

Anyways thank you for your hard work on this I really appreciate people who create work for the BGG community and offer it up at no charge

Posted Mon May 25, 2009 7:40 pm
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Cory Williamson

United States
Austin
Texas

Ryan,

Yes you can.

This is the print dialog from Acrobat.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4922/18al11x17printsetup.gi...

Set the page size to 11x17 landscape. Then select the drop down 'Tile large pages' under 'Page Scaling:'. Next, make the 'Overlap:' at 2 inches or so and print.

If you want a simple butt joint, trim one page down just inside of the 2" overlap. This will enable you to overlap and line up the pages to one another. While lined up, carefully tape both sides of the sheets together in the white space outside of your graphics. Cut through both sheets at the mid point.

Or you can follow the board wrapping steps in the 'Read Me' to make mounted boards with a small modification to the overlap edge. Actually this technique will produce the nicest looking folded board edge.

Cheers,
Koryo

Posted Wed May 27, 2009 8:34 am
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Dick Ruck

(Crabro)

United Kingdom
Brighton
East Sussex

There is a way to split a .PDF file into smaller pieces so that you can print them onto an A4 printer, and it is available for Windows and Linux users for free.

The program is called pdfPoster, and it is available here:
http://pdfposter.origo.ethz.ch/wiki/pdfposter

Unfortunately the program is poorly documented. I discovered that it helps to copy the map file (currently 18AL Map Kory v4.pdf) into the pdfPoster directory and work in there. I renamed it to something much shorter: 18al.pdf

pdfPoster is run with the syntax:
pdfposter [options] input_file output_file

After some experimentation I found the following options worked for me:
pdfposter -s 1 -m 7x10inch 18al.pdf 18al_a4.pdf

"-s 1" tells pdfPoster to maintain the original scale of the input document.

"-m 7x10inch" tells pdfPoster that you want the resultant pages to be 7 inches by 10 inches.

"18al.pdf" is the input file.

"18al_a4.pdf" is the output file.

You can or course, tell it whatever size you wish. 7 x 10 inches resulted in pages that I can print on my "1 label per page" paper.

Dick

Posted Fri Jun 5, 2009 6:30 pm
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Cory Williamson

United States
Austin
Texas

~~Adobe Reader works as well: bloated but free~~

Sorry, my bad.

Edited Tue Jun 9, 2009 10:59 am
Posted Sun Jun 7, 2009 1:38 pm
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Dick Ruck

(Crabro)

United Kingdom
Brighton
East Sussex

Koryo wrote:

Adobe Reader works as well: bloated but free

I have exchanged emails, off forum, with Cory on this one. I have just installed the current latest free Adobe Reader which is v9.1.0 onto an XP box and checked the options, there is NO tile printing. When I was lucky enough to have access to a full copy of Adobe Acrobat, it had the tile option.

Could somebody else please confirm this, or have Adobe put the tile option into a later version of Reader that I am unaware of? If so, can you please supply the URL?

Thanks!

Posted Mon Jun 8, 2009 8:13 pm
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Dave Heberer

(i7dealer)

United States
Woodinville
Washington

I can also confirm that with my free version of adobe acrobat, I see no tiling option in the print dialog. I figured it was a function of the printer, to be honest. Although the printer I have here is fairly sweet.

A thing that is confusing to me, no one seems to be mentioning that the market is fairly large too. Should I shrink this one to fit?

Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:09 am
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Dick Ruck

(Crabro)

United Kingdom
Brighton
East Sussex

i7dealer wrote:

I can also confirm that with my free version of adobe acrobat, I see no tiling option in the print dialog.

Thanks for confirming that, and I see that Cory has edited his post.

i7dealer wrote:

A thing that is confusing to me, no one seems to be mentioning that the market is fairly large too. Should I shrink this one to fit?

I used pdfPoster on the market, too, and it turned out the same size as the map. It looks good! I also printed out an A4 version to put on the back of the box...

Posted Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:03 pm
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Chief EGG Head

(lorna)

United States

Thanks so much for posting these files. I am almost done with my copy and while not nearly as nice as yours, I am more than happy with the results (except for the cut on my thumb - doh! exacto knives are sharp!

) I can't wait to try out the game.

Edited Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:57 pm
Posted Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:54 pm
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Steve Undy

United States
Fort Collins
Colorado

Fantastic job! Thank you for sharing this. I'm in the process of making the game now (art board and full page labels).

I only have two nits (really just one and a half):

1. The train ownership limits printed on the corporate charters is incorrect. You have them the same as the train distributions.

2. What is the purpose of the numbered "R/R crossing" tiles?

Anyway, it looks great.

Posted Tue Jul 7, 2009 2:50 pm
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Robert Farthing

(r2mites)

United States
Auburn
Illinois

The numbered "R/R Crossing" cards are most likely used to determine random player seating order at the beginning of the game. This is really their only purpose.

Posted Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:31 am
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

roseundy wrote:

1. The train ownership limits printed on the corporate charters is incorrect. You have them the same as the train distributions.

I see that there is still the problem with Corinth, the values are changed, but what limit problem are you saying?

Posted Tue Aug 4, 2009 1:01 am
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Steve Undy

United States
Fort Collins
Colorado

kabutor wrote:

roseundy wrote:

1. The train ownership limits printed on the corporate charters is incorrect. You have them the same as the train distributions.

I see that there is still the problem with Corinth, the values are changed, but what limit problem are you saying?

On each corporate charter, he has as column giving the "Ownership Limits" for the trains during each phase. These have the wrong values. It appears that he used the train distribution numbers. For instance, during the 2-train phase, the maximum number of trains a corporation is allowed to run is 4, while his charter lists 5. Instead, 5 is the total number of 2-trains available. Similarly, for the 6, 7, and 4D phases, the train ownership limit is 2, not 1, 1, and 5 as written on his charters.

Posted Tue Aug 4, 2009 5:39 am
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

Oh I see it says Ownership Limit, but it is the total ammount of trains avalaible to all players, while in table 1 lists another values:
Trains / Own.Limit
2 - > 4
3 - > 4
4 - > 3
5 - > 2
6 - > 2
7 - > 2
4D -> 2

Nice to know as I have my first game next week, I have to upload some pictures of the final product.

Posted Tue Aug 4, 2009 8:50 am
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Steve Undy

United States
Fort Collins
Colorado

kabutor wrote:

Nice to know as I have my first game next week, I have to upload some pictures of the final product.

I actually Photoshopped the charters to correct the train limit column. It doesn't look quite as good as the original, but since I'm a newbie, I didn't want the charters to contradict the rules.

Again, I can't thank Koryo enough for this fantastic package!

Posted Tue Aug 4, 2009 3:19 pm
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

I Gimped (photoshoped) the map,. but I think Im not reprinting those..

Just because its already done (next week first game)

Edited Tue Aug 4, 2009 8:08 pm
Posted Tue Aug 4, 2009 8:07 pm
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(Riptcord)

United States

I am thinking of printing this, would you be willing to summarize the inaccuracies. Do you know if the original poster of the files has since corrected them? Thanks.

Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 1:29 am
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

Innacuracies are two afaik:

- Corinth city values are inverted, they must be:
1-4 : 40
5-7: 30

And the Ownership limits in the companies track as dicussed above:

I have a map file with the corrected image, the one I Gimped and used for printing, for the tracks I plan to just paint with a labeles over the numbers so where you have an X:

4
5X
4
3
2
1X
1X
5X

So you get the real ownership limitsjust looking the last value.

For the record, I really apreciate Koryo job and I contacted him about the file mistakes long ago, at least the map one.. IIRC but I supposed he is busy.

Edited Wed Aug 5, 2009 9:10 am
Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 9:09 am
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Steve Undy

United States
Fort Collins
Colorado

kabutor wrote:

Innacuracies are two afaik:

- Corinth city values are inverted, they must be:
1-4 : 40
5-7: 30

I know this has been pointed out before, but I wonder if it isn't really a misprint in the original map. The rules state:

For Meridian and all off-board locations, two values are shown in a box; the lower value applies until the first 5 train is purchased, and the higher value applies for the rest of the game.

The term "higher" is somewhat ambiguous. Does it mean "higher in position on the printed map", or does it mean "higher in value"? I would have thought the word "top" would have been used if he meant the former. What would the thematic justification be for one of the off-board cities to drop in value as the game progressed?

Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 3:51 pm
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J C Lawrence

(clearclaw)

United States
Campbell
California

roseundy wrote:

The term "higher" is somewhat ambiguous. Does it mean "higher in position on the printed map", or does it mean "higher in value"? I would have thought the word "top" would have been used if he meant the former. What would the thematic justification be for one of the off-board cities to drop in value as the game progressed?

It isn't common, but there is precedent (eg Virginia in 18TN).

Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 5:05 pm
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

Elsewhere I see the map on the BGG, the 1.64 manual, the stand alone map on the author's website, the correct values are those.

Someone can try to contact the designer and ask, I think I am playing like this, as this is the way I have printed

Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 6:26 pm
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Jevon Heath

(cadavaca)

United States
Berkeley
California

What the hell is doing is being used out of clefts by me.

roseundy wrote:

What would the thematic justification be for one of the off-board cities to drop in value as the game progressed?

The cities in question lose their importance as a result of their industries becoming less profitable or obsoleted. Alternately, people leave town.

Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 8:49 pm
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(Riptcord)

United States

kabutor wrote:

Innacuracies are two afaik:

- Corinth city values are inverted, they must be:
1-4 : 40
5-7: 30

And the Ownership limits in the companies track as dicussed above:

I have a map file with the corrected image,

Would you be willing to share a copy of your file?

Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 9:02 pm
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Steve Undy

United States
Fort Collins
Colorado

cadavaca wrote:

roseundy wrote:

What would the thematic justification be for one of the off-board cities to drop in value as the game progressed?

The cities in question lose their importance as a result of their industries becoming less profitable or obsoleted. Alternately, people leave town.

OK, fair enough. Now I have to see if want to print out another map. I'm on rev 2 already (I couldn't stand how the first turned out).

Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 10:03 pm
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

Riptcord wrote:

kabutor wrote:

Innacuracies are two afaik:

- Corinth city values are inverted, they must be:
1-4 : 40
5-7: 30

And the Ownership limits in the companies track as dicussed above:

I have a map file with the corrected image,

Would you be willing to share a copy of your file?

Sure,I extracted it from the PDF, modified and save it as TIF, so It's a big file. Also I removed all the black border, I just print that on A3 and it is the right size for me.

Standard disclaimer, Im not the owner of the file and so.. bla bla

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

If you have a problem uncompressing it try with 7zip It's free.

EDIT: Look the map before printing, I cut the borders so it fits an A3, so maybe it does not fit your printer size. You've been warned

EDIT 2 : Removed link

Edited Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:08 pm
Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 10:36 pm
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Cory Williamson

United States
Austin
Texas

I have updated and corrected the hexes, shares & charters and the map. The files ~~should be~~ are posted ~~soon~~.

Edited Thu Aug 6, 2009 2:44 pm
Posted Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:30 am
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Steve Undy

United States
Fort Collins
Colorado

Koryo wrote:

I have updated and corrected the hexes, shares & charters and the map. The files ~~should be~~ are posted ~~soon~~.

~~What changes were needed for the hexes?~~

Sorry, posted before I saw your file comments.

Fantastic!

Edited Thu Aug 6, 2009 3:28 pm
Posted Thu Aug 6, 2009 3:26 pm
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(Riptcord)

United States

Koryo wrote:

I have updated and corrected the hexes, shares & charters and the map. The files ~~should be~~ are posted ~~soon~~.

You do awesome work.

Posted Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:38 pm
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A Derk appears from the mists...

(derk)

United States
Portland
Oregon

BGG for the videogame world!!

Makes me wish I didn't ready have a functional copy of the game...

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Mark Derrick

(mderrick)

United States
Chattanooga
Tennessee

Sorry, I just found this thread today. I love the job Koryo has done with my 18AL game and don't visit BGG as much as I used to. You are correct in that Corinth should be worth 30 after the first five train has been bought. My reasoning was that Birmingham emerged later in the game, cities like Corinth became less important. The map shows my intent though I can see my rules are ambiguous about this. I got John Galt to help me with an overhaul of the rules format with 18MEX and although they are longer and some might say dryer, they are probably cleaner to avoid confusion like this. I guess I need to revise my rules to clear that up sometime....

I have contacted Koryo offline about whether he might be able to make up some ready to play copies for me to give as prizes at next year's Chattanooga convention. My understanding is that John Galt has now sold out his last remaining copies of both 18AL and 18GA. With these files, I might be able to try to make a couple of copies for myself. Thanks again to Koryo for his fantastic work!

Mark

kabutor wrote:

Innacuracies are two afaik:

- Corinth city values are inverted, they must be:
1-4 : 40
5-7: 30

And the Ownership limits in the companies track as dicussed above:

I have a map file with the corrected image, the one I Gimped and used for printing, for the tracks I plan to just paint with a labeles over the numbers so where you have an X:

4
5X
4
3
2
1X
1X
5X

So you get the real ownership limitsjust looking the last value.

For the record, I really apreciate Koryo job and I contacted him about the file mistakes long ago, at least the map one.. IIRC but I supposed he is busy.

Posted Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:24 pm
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Ryan Bigelow

(Bigguyry)

Canada
edmonton

Really liked the new artwork for the game! I had the original stuff, but re-doing it really helped it hit the game table.

I noticed the value for Gadsden is 30 on the new map and only 20 on the old. Plus there is a small town dot in the Phenix City hex (sp?).

Posted Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:43 pm
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

yeah, and now that I check it, Meridian seems wrong as well

Posted Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:02 pm
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Cory Williamson

United States
Austin
Texas

Gadsden and Meridian too?

SRLSY?! meh. fixing.

fin

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Posted Tue Sep 1, 2009 9:25 pm
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the track tiles formerly known as

(jimb)

United States
Berkeley
California

Cory - I assume you did this on purpose, but I wanted to mention it, just in case it was a versioning glitch.

The cut/seam on the main map that you suggest does not bisect the image; it's a little off-center. Some of the images I see, people go ahead and cut in the center instead (which does not fall on a hex edge, as you indicated it should). I'm not looking at it this second, but as I recall you had some discretion with the border, so I was a little insecure cutting it off-center.

I also could never find the little seam markers in the tabs, along the side; that didn't matter too much, except it made it hard to confirm your intent.

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Michael Theiss

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United States
College Station
Texas

kabutor wrote:

I put the shares on artscow (54 cards)

http://www.artscow.com/ShareAlbum.aspx?Key=sjg2r4vt

I'll post some pictures when I recieve it

This would of worked well with the trains as well. Did you do that on them? Just wondering if you already have it done, before I start.

Posted Tue Feb 9, 2010 8:29 pm
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Esteban Fernandez

Spain

I just put the shares on artscow as those are just 54 cards, to put the trains you need to order another deck. shake

Posted Tue Feb 9, 2010 9:53 pm
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Rafael Salazar

(rafa2000)

United States
DURHAM
North Carolina

I went to ArtsCow to order one of this set, but I couldn't decide on the output format, it offered from 4x6" up. Which is the appropiate one to have it printed as cards? Thanks a lot. And thanks to Kory for a great work. Does anyone has some instructions on how to print and put together the map for the game. This may be my first 18xx game. Thanks!

Posted Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:42 pm
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Blorb Plorbst

(CrankyPants)

United States
Bloomington
Indiana

I think we're all bozos on this bus.

I just had Staples print the map and market for me.

ZOMG!! Amazing!

All my other home printed pieces are going to look like crap next to it. Guess I'll be getting the rest done there too . . .

Posted Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:04 pm
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Paul Springer

(UvulaBob)

United States
Bellevue
Washington

The box art file says both the top and bottom are included, but I only see one printout. Am I missing something?

Posted Sun May 23, 2010 2:47 am
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Cory Williamson

United States
Austin
Texas

With the one printout, there are nested outlines for the four different layouts needed to be cut that make a full box. Cardboard bottom, cardboard top, paper wrap bottom and the printout itself to be cut and used for the paper wrap top.

You need to provide the cardboard and paper for the bottom. I use acid free black paper. You can use what ever you want or nothing at all. I didn't say it was going to be easy.

Good luck.

Posted Sun May 23, 2010 8:26 am
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Paul Springer

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United States
Bellevue
Washington

So the idea is that I use the same printout to get the dimensions of the cardboard box, and then use the print out once for the top and once for the bottom? So, then, theoretically it would look the same from above as below, then right?

Posted Sun May 23, 2010 4:24 pm
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