Game: Navia Dratp

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kin2x — 2008-11-23T13:51:58+00:00

duel of chess master

Thread: Re: 4 Player Draft Tournament

Deebs — 2008-11-18T22:39:17+00:00

Thanks for the suggestion dudical. I chose to include all maseitai in order to make it possible to have two of the same piece. I also enjoy playing with skype, but I think there's a certain feel to staring at your opponent that you can't get when you're not face to face.

Thread: 4 Player Draft Tournament

dudical — 2008-11-18T22:32:56+00:00

Hey Deebs, I enjoy playing the game over skype.
As for the draft, you need but one set of Maseitai for two boards:
1-Deal out 10 cards to each player.
2- Each player discards 3 cards face down to the player accross from them.
3- Add these 'new' cards to your hand and discard final three from your hand of 10.
Now each player has 7 different Maseitai on the board. It looks cooler, and plays better
-Dude

Thread: 4 Player Draft Tournament

Deebs — 2008-11-15T03:23:40+00:00

I just love Navia Dratp and have done since I found the game a couple of years ago. Since then I've been collecting the pieces and now I finally reached my goal of getting 2 full sets of all Maseitai.

However, during these two years I've hardly ever played in real life. My wife hates chess and is intimidated by the fact that I used that comparison when I introduced the game, and my competitive friends don't want to play since they think I'd have too much of an advantage since I've known the game for so long.

Just recently I managed to convince my closest gaming friends to come over for a tournament. Hoora! I spent many nights at work (yes, I work shifts) thinking about what format to use for the tournament and I finally decided that we'd have a Draft Tournament.

I was expecting 5 of my friends to show up, so I prepared by setting up three boards and lining up all 88 Maseitai from my collection on my kitchen table. It was an awesome sight. Two of my friends however cancelled but Niklas, Rasmus and Samuel showed up ready for some Navia.

Only one of them had played before, so we started off by introducing the rules. Fortunately they're pretty simple, but I also wanted to explain several of the Maseitai's abilities since we were going to draft our armies. When they all were ready we started the draft. We used a simple draft scheme since we're all old CCG-ers and ended up with an army of 10 Maseitai each (7 are used in the game and we had a small sideboard for tweaking the army between rounds). Everyone got to pick the Navia that they thought was coolest as well.

At this point we were eager to get started. The draft was a great way to select armies but it took quite long, especially since my friends wanted to think long and hard between all choices since they weren't familiar with the pieces. I felt pretty confident with my army that had a good mix of control (Midrah), cheep/mobile (Viskunmateus), and heavy Maseitai.

Since there were only 4 of us we decided to play everybody against each other. We randomized the game order and set off. My first game was against Rasmus who had played the game with me before. We both played a very disciplined game without anyone making any mistakes. In fact, we were fighting for every inch of the board for a LONG time, but finally after two and a half hours he got my Navia cornered on one side of the board and could eventually close me down.

Niklas won his first game against Samuel with an army of two Gyullas Turtles bringing home the crystals.

At this point we realized the games took a lot longer than expected. We decided to just go directly into a final between Niklas and Rasmus and I played Samuel for third place.

Samuel suffered from inexperience in the draft because he had selected an army that was a bit weak. Each piece was good individually but together it was just a bit light-weight and I took the game fairly easy.

In the grand final Niklas muscled down Rasmus' army for the glory. Niklas final army was:
M003 - Hamulus Garuda
M007 - Tiny Kiggoshi
M010 - Moses
M012 - Gyullas Turtle
M012 - Gyullas Turtle
M023 - Hansa
M024 - Kapinahs

WHAT I LEARNED FROM HOSTING THIS TOURNAMENT
1) A draft is a lot of fun, but takes time.
2) Plan for long games (1.5 - 2 hours).
3) Inexperienced players can quickly learn the game and compete in a tournament.
4) Playing the game IRL is a whole lot more fun than playing the game online.

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Deebs — 2008-11-14T02:45:28+00:00

Getting ready for a draft tournament

Thread: Re: Navia Dratp Maelstrom 15 new figures have finally uploaded

Talisinbear — 2008-10-20T14:43:43+00:00

Actually with a shharp Exacto knife they cut not bad

and I wasn't suggesting alterig, rather just a straight proxie.

For the mos part Dreamblade minis are cleaner looking that ND. Some of the ND are rather I'm not sure of the word, but overall the two match pretty well in my mind

D&D minis are a smaller scale,

Thread: ND Maelstrom figs

dudical — 2008-10-20T13:49:06+00:00

Hmmm,
Some of the Dreamblade figs are of decent quality, but others are a bump on a log
But the few that I have attempted to alter with blade and pliers are a real pain. So, I'll look
for some good sized D&D mnis that could fit the bill.
Hopefully I'll get an ok from Bandai to produce my own figs some day

Thread: Re: Navia Dratp Maelstrom 15 new figures have finally uploaded

Talisinbear — 2008-10-19T19:07:55+00:00

here is a gallery link to look at pieces

http://ww2.wizards.com/DreamBlade/Gallery.aspx

Thread: Re: Navia Dratp Maelstrom 15 new figures have finally uploaded

dudical — 2008-10-19T13:06:15+00:00

That's a good idea Bear. Do you have a link to images of those dreamblade figures?

The Maelstrom figures still need play testing.
Sprite, Zola, and G4 need a cost increase and some tweeking. Sprite should not have one of it's invoke dots behind it because in play he could take, and invoke to move back a space (turned out to be pretty vicous)

Thread: Re: Navia Dratp Maelstrom 15 new figures have finally uploaded

Talisinbear — 2008-10-18T19:17:24+00:00

I just had the idea of using Dreamblade minis as possible Navia home builds

would any of them fit with the mini ideas presented here?

If we established a set list of proxy figs, Dreamblade 'A' is used for ND idea "X" it would create a general template for everyone to follow

Went through Dreamblade, would suggest the following could work:

Lunar Handmaiden
Saint of Roses
Steelborn Lion
Zungar Bodyguard
Chrysalis Spinner
Relentless Eviscerator
Armadillo Sheieldbearer
Mhjina
Dreadmorph Ogre
Ekkya Wayfarer
Forgeblind Punisher
Virtuous Maiden
Cyclopean Sprite
Murderous Beserker

Thread: Re: Dreamblade pieces for Navia

Talisinbear — 2008-10-17T21:12:02+00:00

A sharp exacto knife

I converted an ogre to a football piece

Thread: Re: Dreamblade pieces for Navia

dudical — 2008-10-17T20:38:17+00:00

Not a bad idea bear.
Dreamblade pieces are a pain to pop off their bases though///

Thread: Dreamblade pieces for Navia

Talisinbear — 2008-10-17T20:05:45+00:00

I have seen a few alternate pieces designed for Navia. Has anyone looked at doing rules to fit some of the pieces from Dreamblade, several are similiar size/feel, and could be attached to excess Navia bases with new dial charts glued on.

Thread: Re: Uleashed Darkness Cases for $11.40 each 10-16-2008

dudical — 2008-10-17T00:26:12+00:00

The price goes back up to $12.00 a case after Thursday, and then back to $11.40 next Thursday if there are any left

Thread: resurgance pieces

Talisinbear — 2008-10-16T20:08:24+00:00

I am looking for resurgance pieces, non painted.

Also the clear Navias

thanks

Thread: piece list

Talisinbear — 2008-10-16T19:50:19+00:00

can't get the pdf list download to open

does anyone have a quick list of the base (original) set. I just got my ebay purchase, and think 2 short, I have 24 different ones

Do have a painted Gyullas Turtle, and a brozy looking Nemchant to trade now too.

Thread: Uleashed Darkness Cases for $11.40 each 10-16-2008

dudical — 2008-10-16T16:40:26+00:00

Below is the link for dave and adams. Get them while you can, they won't last long at that price

http://www.dacardworld.com/gaming/bandai-navia-dratp-miniatu...
It's the best price that I've seen.
Yes I did already get mine. Good luck - Dude

Thread: Re: Maseitai Gundrill Question

Bwian — 2008-10-10T19:37:03+00:00

Oboewan wrote:
I found this on the errata post but I still have a question:
Can I use Gundrill's invoke ability to move a piece and then move a piece normally?
Or does this invoke replace my normal choice of move/drapt?
It doesn't really matter whose Invoke effect you're looking at. The things you can do with a turn:
1) Move a piece
2) Move a piece, Dratp that piece
3) Dratp a piece
4) Move a piece, Invoke that piece
5) Invoke a piece
6) Summon a piece

So you can't Invoke and then move, with any combination of pieces.

Thread: Re: Maseitai Gundrill Question

dudical — 2008-10-10T15:47:52+00:00

Oboewan wrote:

I found this on the errata post but I still have a question:
Can I use Gundrill's invoke ability to move a piece and then move a piece normally?
Or does this invoke replace my normal choice of move/drapt?

On the turn after dratping Gundrill, you may invoke, or move Gundrill, then invoke for 4 g's. Then your turn is complete. You may not move the invoked piece till next turn.
But, invoking a previously dratped Garrison, is especially deadly
-Dude

Thread: Maseitai Gundrill Question

Oboewan — 2008-10-10T14:00:39+00:00

I found this on the errata post but I still have a question:
Can I use Gundrill's invoke ability to move a piece and then move a piece normally?
Or does this invoke replace my normal choice of move/drapt?

Dratp Effect: Voice To Call
Decrease the range of movement as indicated on the compass. Once per turn, you may move 1 of your Battle Pieces of your choice from the Battlefield to an open space indicated with by paying 4 Gyullas.

Remarks:
1. The effect is not valid on the turn GUNDRILL dratps.
2. The player cannot earn Gyullas when a Black or Red Gulled is moved by this effect.

Thread: Navia Dratp Puzzlers

dudical — 2008-10-03T16:11:30+00:00

Zxqueb wrote:
Are there any more of these puzzlers coming?

I really liked it!

Z

Thanks,
Here is a link to my gallery:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/images/user/187575
I am going to start compiling some puzzlers there for a geek list.
Just thumbs up the ones that you find challenging, and leave some feed back on the ones that are too easy so that I know you need tougher ones
-Dude

Thread: Re: Mate/Line-Over/N-Dratp Strategies/Puzzlers

Zxqueb — 2008-10-03T10:25:44+00:00

Are there any more of these puzzlers coming?

I really liked it!

Z

Thread: Re: Mate/Line-Over/N-Dratp Strategies/Puzzlers

dudical — 2008-09-17T00:48:30+00:00

up to 17 G's to spend

Thread: Mate/Line-Over/N-Dratp Strategies/Puzzlers

dudical — 2008-09-14T17:11:12+00:00

It's a ton of fun to brush up on strategy with some puzzles.
In this first one, you have 17G's to spend (not 13)
Here's my Latest one:
[ImageID=http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/372318]

Post them if you have made some; they are always fun for discussion.
I'll be posting more if there is enough interset.
-Dude

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dudical — 2008-09-14T15:47:00+00:00

Kraa's move: Mate in 3 ONLY for the brave.

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dudical — 2008-09-09T20:07:40+00:00

Peresphone card N-007 if they had one

Thread: Navia Dratp Maelstrom has Uploaded @

dudical — 2008-09-09T15:09:34+00:00

www.boardgamegeek.com/fileinfo/34980

Hey Gents,
It's finally uploaded! The above link will take you directly to the pdf. You can print the dials out, and paste them on other figs to try them out. I'll post some more images in the gallery when I get a chance. Proteus should be a 15 rather than an 8.
Tell me what you think. I sent the file to Koichi and will tell y'all what he thinks as soon as I hear back.
Keep playing,
-Dude

Thread: trading

dudical — 2008-09-09T14:56:34+00:00

Eventhorizon1984 still sells some singles (but I find them a bit pricey). but your best bet is trading with people. most people have lots of extras. What do you still need?
I still have a ton of resurgence

Thread: Re: how did I do

Talisinbear — 2008-09-08T22:39:33+00:00

have to see what 5 they are

is there anyplace selling singles ?

Thread: Re: how did I do

Bwian — 2008-09-08T20:15:43+00:00

Talisinbear wrote:
how is the mix ? anything I should look to add from first expansion ?
Well, I usually advise "one of everything", just for variety's sake. There really aren't all that many pieces (you're only missing 5 from the first set), and at this point they're fairly cheap. After a few games with what you've got, you could try making up some proxies for the missing pieces (the stats are on www.naviadratp.net) and see which ones you like.

Thread: Re: The Navia Draft: Bidding?

dudical — 2008-09-08T13:59:59+00:00

Hmmmm,
I have never felt a need to bid in Navia. Everything seems so well balanced. It would also take a bit longer to get started. But, if you could make that process fun, it could be really neat

Thread: Re: The Navia Draft:

dudical — 2008-09-08T13:56:35+00:00

Wow Deebs,
Six players!!!
I have to go over skype to find players!
I think my two favorite parts of the draft are in the speed that it takes,
and the randomness.
I have to find some more players around here, and I'll give your system a try

Thread: how did I do

Talisinbear — 2008-09-08T13:48:40+00:00

ok finally took the plunge

got a batch on ebay

4 painted figures (Guyllas Turtle, Navia Io, Navia Estelle and Navia Debora)

1 Promo figure from Gencon 2005 - Nemchant ( kind of a metallic purple color)

plus M-001 Troll M-002 Agunilyos M-003 Hamulus Garuda x2 M-004 Garrison M-005 Netol M-006 Gundrill M-007 Tiny Kiggoshi M-008 Olip M-009 Gilgame II M-010 Moses M-011 Nebguard M-012 Gyullas Turtle M-013 Kapinah M-014 Koma M-015 Schmidt M-017 Midrah M-018 Kanaba M-019 Sungyullas M-023 Hansa M-024 Kapinahs M-025 Odd M-027 Nemchant M-028 Lord Kiggoshi M-029 Chugyullas

how is the mix ? anything I should look to add from first expansion ?

also the promo nemchant and painted gyullas turtle are likely trade bait once they arrive, I don't like the painted look

Thread: Bidding for Maseitai

Deebs — 2008-09-07T17:42:29+00:00

Another thing that I've been wanting to try out is bidding for your army.

Each player gets 60 gyullas, and a priority token is given to a random player.

Then N random cards are placed face up on the table (where N equals to the number of players). After looking at the revealed cards, all players make a closed bid with their gyullas. Then all players reveal their bids simultaneously. The player with the highest bid gets to select one of the revealed maseitai cards first, followed by the player with the second highest bid and so on until all the cards have been taken (i.e. all players have taken a maseitai).

If two or more bids are the same, you check who has the priority token. The player with the priority token has priority over the player to his (or her) left, who in his turn has priority over the player to his left and so on.

When the N cards have been selected the player with the priority token passes it to the player to his left.

This is repeated at least 7 times (depending on the number of players and pieces available) and finally each player discards extra pieces to create an army of 7.

Example:
Emil, Sven, Annika and Johan are sitting around the table (in the named order) and they have one full set of grays (44 maseitai). They decide to use Deebs' bidding system to distribute the pieces so each player gets 60 gyullas and they decide to give Emil the priority token since it is his birthday. They also agree on using all 44 maseitai, so they will have 11 bidding rounds in total.

The first four cards are turned up and they are: Gyullas Turtle, Olip, Gilgame II and Viskunmateus. The players select their bids and reveal them simultaneously:
Emil - 4
Sven - 5
Annika - 15 (she really loves Viskunmateus and wanted to make sure she'd get him)
Johan - 5

Annika bid the highest so she gets to pick first, and she takes Viskunmateus. Sven and Johan are tied, but since Emil has the priority token, Sven has priority over Johan. Sven picks Olip and Johan picks Gyullas Turtle. Finally Emil picks Gilgame II (surprise...)

(note that even if Emil bid the lowest, he still has to pay those gyullas and only has 56 gyullas left)

The priority token is then passed on to Sven for the next round and the procedure is repeated until all 11 bidding rounds are completed.

Finally each player has 11 maseitai and they discard 4 each to create their final army.

Thread: Re: The Navia Draft:

Talisinbear — 2008-09-07T17:07:38+00:00

The second idea is very mucch like a Magic booster draft

both should work fine for this.

Thread: Re: The Navia Draft:

Deebs — 2008-09-07T16:40:07+00:00

Thanks for the post. I have actually been planning to do something similar in an upcoming get-together, since I'm the only one who owns pieces.

However in my draft, cards will be dealt to each player who select one of the cards and pass the rest to the next player. They then select one of the cards that were passed on to them and then pass the remaining cards along and so on.

For example, with six players I would do the following. Bring two sets of grays with cards. Randomly distribute 6 cards to each player. The players take a card and pass the rest on clockwise. This is repeated until no cards remain. Then I would distribute 6 new cards to each player who select a card and pass the remaining cards counter clockwise (and repeated until each player has 12 maseitai).

Finally the players discard down to an army of 7.

Thread: The Navia Draft:

dudical — 2008-09-07T16:07:20+00:00

The Navia Draft is a great way to get each player a different team very quickly.
One person needs to bring a full set of figures and cards.
Deal out 10 cards to each player. Players discard three that they do not want to use.
As a fun twist, you can pass the discarded cards face down accross the table. Players add one anothers cards to their hand and discard any three they want.

You will get some great combos that you had never thought of, and will have many great games to come.
I've had a lot of luck with this, and it has become the standard practice in my area.

Another very nice thing is that every Maseitai on the board is different.

Give it a try and tell me how it goes
-Dude

Thread: Re: Navia Dratp Maelstrom

dudical — 2008-09-07T12:56:18+00:00

Thanks Adam,
I'll upload it there after I make a few more adjustments.
I'm still waiting for it to get posted here since I
uploaded it a week ago.

Thread: Re: Navia Dratp Maelstrom

adam.skinner — 2008-09-05T11:24:01+00:00

Just a head's up: you can add these individual pieces (and edit them later) on NaviaDratp.net. Just put them in the "Community" section.

http://www.naviadratp.net/node/add/battle-piece

Thread: Navia Dratp Maelstrom 15 new figures have finally uploaded

dudical — 2008-09-04T23:08:59+00:00

Hey Gents,
I just uploaded the 15 new figures that we have been play testing. It should be appearing in BBG's ND download section shortly. It's been sugested that Zola's DR cost should be hire, as well as her invoke cost. Also the g-fish and the g-dratper need some modifications.
Proteuses DRC goes up a to 10, and his movement will also be modified.
I'll post some cutout pictures soon.
-Dude

Thread: Re: Resurgance

Bwian — 2008-09-02T15:47:53+00:00

mrraow wrote:

15 new Maseitai
2 new Navia
Also, painted figures from Unleashed Darkness and Resurgence, and possibly ghost figures of the Navia.
1 case (12 boosters, 36 figures) is guaranteed to include a complete set of Maseitai, and probably one of each navia.
Slight clarification:
1 (sealed) Resurgence case should have: one full set of Resurgence pieces, one (full - 6) set of Resurgence pieces, 1 of each of the new Navia, 1 crystal Navia (out of the 6 released ones), and 9 painted Maseitai (all different, randomly choosen from UD and Resurgence).

Thread: Re: Resurgance

mrraow — 2008-09-01T18:11:12+00:00

All painted with a crystal (ghost) Navia also works

Thread: Re: Resurgance

grandslam — 2008-09-01T17:25:09+00:00

Calvin,

I agree with your feeling on the painteds. I think having all gray also helps the Navia stand out, which in certain cases is a good thing.

- Jonathan

Thread: Re: Resurgance

Talisinbear — 2008-09-01T15:49:48+00:00

I rather dislike the pianted figs at any rate

Guess my chess roots where pieces are all the same

Thread: Re: Resurgance

mrraow — 2008-09-01T15:30:04+00:00

Official rules (read: cynical money grabbing): two, so long as one is a painted version, and the other unpainted. Since there is no longer a tournament scene, most players ignore the requirement for a second piece to be painted. Our usual house rules allow no more than one of each.

Thread: Re: Resurgance

Talisinbear — 2008-09-01T13:32:44+00:00

Thanks that helps alot

Since so new, awaiting first sets

how many of a particular piece can u play in a game ?

Thread: Re: Resurgance

mrraow — 2008-09-01T13:18:59+00:00

How many minis were in Resurgance set?
15 new Maseitai
2 new Navia
Also, painted figures from Unleashed Darkness and Resurgence, and possibly ghost figures of the Navia.
1 case (12 boosters, 36 figures) is guaranteed to include a complete set of Maseitai, and probably one of each navia.

Thread: Resurgance

Talisinbear — 2008-09-01T11:25:10+00:00

How many minis were in Resurgance set?

reasonably how many boosters would one need to get to have a good cross section of the set?

thanks from a Navia newbie

Thread: Navia Dratp Anime Search

dudical — 2008-08-30T13:48:33+00:00

Yeah, it would be nice to see them just for posterity
I'll drop you a line as soon as I find something out.
Hey Do you have Sype?
It's a great way to play these days
-Dude

Thread: Re: Has anyone the Navia Dratp Anime?

BeardFan — 2008-08-30T12:42:29+00:00

It seems that nobody stored the anime, because it was freely available for download. Man, I even PMed some folks on anidb.net who had this on their lists, but I got no replies. And the only torrent for this is long time dead.

Still it would be cool to have them, to add to the Yugioh-ish/Pokemon-ish feel:

"Nergalmesh, I summon you from the Netherworlds!"

Thread: Re: Has anyone the Navia Dratp Anime?

dudical — 2008-08-29T19:55:31+00:00

Hey Beard,
I heard that there may be an ND anime still in the works. I still have not been able to find anything in the way of the original five shorts though.
-Dude

Thread: Re: After starters, what singles?

adam.skinner — 2008-08-27T11:11:48+00:00

Talisinbear wrote:
well I make it perfect information

you mentioned Age of Steam never played

but this pic shows dice

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/37238

You're right!

"For each half of the chart at a time, one player rolls as many dice as there are players and then places then takes cube(s) from the corresponding columns and places them on the cities on the board with the same number."

I guess Age of Steam doesn't fit the complete information criteria.

Thread: Re: After starters, what singles?

Talisinbear — 2008-08-27T01:28:11+00:00

yes most are 2 player although I canmn think of various exceptions, kendo in 3 or 4 player mode, Lancer, etc

Thread: Re: After starters, what singles?

Bwian — 2008-08-26T23:10:32+00:00

adam.skinner wrote:
Anyone else have any input on this issue? Does "Perfect Information" == "Abstract"?
Mostly, yeah. I usually add "two players only" to the list of requirements, although that then excludes Chinese Checkers. Mostly I don't worry about it too much .

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dudical — 2008-08-20T16:26:53+00:00

gorgon dragon gilgame IV

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dudical — 2008-08-20T16:25:26+00:00

pixieandproteus

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machollic — 2008-08-20T14:06:38+00:00

Gilgame II ready to protect Debora from Homulus Garuda

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machollic — 2008-08-20T13:55:38+00:00

Debora vs Estelle with Front Box as background

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machollic — 2008-08-20T13:50:38+00:00

Debora & Estelle head-to-head

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machollic — 2008-08-20T13:49:15+00:00

Koma vs Homulus Garuda