Game: Shear Panic

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Stormparkiet — 2008-10-05T13:18:42+00:00

My Shear Panic sheep snug inside my home-made downsized box.

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Stormparkiet — 2008-10-05T13:15:21+00:00

The cover of my home-made downsized Shear Panic box inside the original for size comparison.

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Jarek PL — 2008-09-27T21:24:30+00:00

Polish edition of the game published by Egmont Polska

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Deadwood — 2008-09-25T14:39:11+00:00

Cute components ... But nasty gameplay ...

Thread: Re: Reversing a previous move

firewizard — 2008-09-10T14:02:16+00:00

jgrundy wrote:
The Mayfair Games publisher answered a related question to question 3... you can't use a ewe-turn action to reverse a ewe-turn that happened from a Panic die roll. He goes on to explain that even given the intervening Panic roll, the actions with a "No Entry" sign can't be used in the reverse direction of the same action either of the Panic roll effect or the previous players chosen action.
I remember not liking/accepting this ruling when I originally read the post. I believe that the panic roll is not part of the player's action.

Also, the following could happen:
Player A performs a ewe-turn clockwise, the marker movement results in a panic roll. This comes up white. Player A performs a ewe-turn anticlockwise (undoing his move - valid). Player B would like to perform a ewe-turn (it may even be his only action left), but cannot as he isn't allowed to perform one in either direction.

This rule has always caused me trouble (especially when trying to explain it to others). I've even gone to the extreme of just ignoring it totally.

What we really need is an official rewording/rewriting... over to Gordon and Fraser!

My suggestion:

"No entry" symbol - you may not perform the same action (ewe-turn or wall-rule) in the opposite direction to that performed by the previous player.
Exception: you are not restricted if the previous player performed a ewe-turn and a panic roll also produced a ewe-turn

"Coloured pie" symbol - you may not perform the same action (line or diagonal push) on the same row/column/diagonal in the opposite direction to that performed by the previous player, unless a panic roll was performed in between.
Exception: If the previous player's action caused the flock to be resolved and the originally pushed row/column/diagonal's contents have been changed then the player is not restricted.

In which case the OPs scenarios are:
1) illegal, even with a panic roll in between
2) legal, the previous player used a different action to you
3) it's the previous players "regular turn action" that is relevant

Thread: Re: Reversing a previous move

jgrundy — 2008-09-08T14:40:09+00:00

Thanks. Fixed.

Thread: Re: Reversing a previous move

thatmarkguy — 2008-09-08T13:59:27+00:00

Hey Joe, I think your first link is faulty. I think you meant to link to http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/129140 .

Thread: Re: Reversing a previous move

jgrundy — 2008-09-06T07:38:13+00:00

The designer answered question (1) previously... it's NOT allowed, even though the flock would not return to the exact same position. (Also, the same answer for all situations with the orthogonal and diagonal pushes ... the "reverse" action of pushing the same line in the opposite direction is not allowed, even if there was originally a gap in the line so the action doesn't restore the previous position.)

However I never got an answer (in the same thread) what happens if a line pushing action results in a "resolve the flock" then the resulting flock no longer has the same "lines"... so which line/s can not then immediately be pushed the other way?

The Mayfair Games publisher answered a related question to question 3... you can't use a ewe-turn action to reverse a ewe-turn that happened from a Panic die roll. He goes on to explain that even given the intervening Panic roll, the actions with a "No Entry" sign can't be used in the reverse direction of the same action either of the Panic roll effect or the previous players chosen action. The actions with the coloured pie can be used if the last thing that happened was a Panic die roll. But you can use a Panic roll result without restriction... this may allow you to "reverse" your own action (or, nominally, reverse the previous player's action).

In all cases, it seems to me from miscellaneous reading but no solid source, the "can't reverse the previous action" as only about using the very same nominal action but in the reverse direction, rather than about not restoring a previous position. So if a lamb slamb has an effect that you can undo with a diagonal or orthogonal push then you are allowed to "undo" the lamb slamb.

(edit: fixed link)

Thread: Re: Reversing a previous move

paulmond — 2008-09-05T20:20:36+00:00

1. I agree. The sheep would be in a different position after the second wool rule, so it doesn't simply undo the previous players move.

2. I would think so, but that's not "official". The rulebook does say "same action", and thoe two are indeed different actions from the Lamb Slam.

3.I think that after the panic action, the sheep are no longer in a proper position to undo the previous player's action (am I missing something?). That said, I think you can use an action to undo a panic action. Both restriction rules specify the player's previous action. A panic is the game itself doing something apart from anyone's strategy.

Thread: Reversing a previous move

Ocssalg — 2008-09-05T15:13:18+00:00

There are two types of restrictions that prevent you from using the same action as the previous player's action to simply reverse that action. One makes an exception for a previous sheep panic roll and the other doesn't. I have three questions about those restrictions.
1. If the previous player did a wool rule (fence) move in one direction, and doing a wool rule move in the opposite direction would not leave the flock in exactly the same places as before the first move, would the second one be legal? I think this would be the case most of the time.
2. Could I use a line push or diagonal push to undo the previous player's lamb slam? It's not the same action as the previous action, although it has the effect on undoing it.
3. If there is a previous sheep panic action (either a lamb slam or a ewe turn), is it that action that may not be reversed, or is it the previous player's regular turn action?

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Jarek PL — 2008-08-23T22:46:22+00:00

Polish black sheep - Black Inez

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Jarek PL — 2008-08-23T22:43:33+00:00

Bodzio

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Jarek PL — 2008-08-23T22:39:19+00:00

Roger

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Jarek PL — 2008-08-23T22:30:01+00:00

Polish sheep - big and normal versions

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cutesnottie — 2008-08-12T12:17:01+00:00

Signed Black sheep by the other designer (backside)

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cutesnottie — 2008-08-12T12:05:03+00:00

Signed black sheep by the designer

Thread: Re: Another resolving the flock question

mattyt91 — 2008-04-01T16:51:50+00:00

Thank you both for your responses!

Thread: Re: Another resolving the flock question

minordemon — 2008-03-31T17:28:00+00:00

The manual says regroup the smallest group first. Since A and B are the same size the player can choose which one he wants to do first.

My manual (dutch) says that when the group is diagonal to a group, you may choose which way you move horizontally. An when it is completely loose you roll the die. It doesn't say the main flock, but a group.

So yes, you can join it with a first, and then join the AB group to the main flock. (Both through horizontal movement, no die rolling)

Thread: Re: Another resolving the flock question

Blott — 2008-03-31T16:41:10+00:00

I haven't played in a while, but my perception of this situation is that B is completely separated from the flock, so any resolution of B will involve the die-roll. In order to do that, I think you have to resolve A first. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

Thread: Another resolving the flock question

mattyt91 — 2008-03-31T15:51:34+00:00

We've gotten into a situation similar to the one pictured here, where a separated sheep touches the main flock diagonally and another separated sheep touches the first separated sheep along the same diagonal.

If the player chooses to resolve "B" first, where are the legal spots to put it? It doesn't seem like there's a way to join it to the main flock. Can you join it with "A" and then proceed from there?

THANKS!!

Thread: 2-Player Extra Mutton Button Question

Braffe — 2008-03-24T19:50:33+00:00

Taken from http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/128456 and modified by me for this question...

As stated in that post, the 2 rules are...

1. At the end of a turn you must have more free actions on your control mat than mutton buttons on the extra control mat.

2. You must use a mutton button whenever you would have more buttons on your extra mat than on your control mat.

With rule 2 revised as:

2. You must use a mutton button whenever you would have more buttons on your extra mat than FREE ACTIONS on your control mat.

Which makes them redundant.

I've modified the chart from the linked post here to show this:

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| Control Mat | Extra Mat |
|-------------------------------------|
| Free actions | Buttons | Buttons |
|--------------|---------|------------|
| 12 | 0 | 5 |
| 11 | 1 | 5 |
| 10 | 2 | 5 |
| 9 | 3 | 5 |
| 8 | 4 | 5 |
| 7 | 5 | 5 |
| 6 | 6 | 5 |
| 5 | 7 | 5 |
| 4 | 8 | 4 |
| 3 | 9 | 3 |
| 2 | 10 | 2 |
| 1 | 11 | 1 |
| 0 | 12 | 0 |
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My first question is, is this correct for these rules ??

My second question is, wouldn't there be 10 mutton buttons on the extra board, so would the chart look like this instead...

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| Control Mat | Extra Mat |
|-------------------------------------|
| Free actions | Buttons | Buttons |
|--------------|---------|------------|
| 12 | 0 | 10 |
| 11 | 1 | 10 |
| 10 | 2 | 10 |
| 9 | 3 | 9 |
| 8 | 4 | 8 |
| 7 | 5 | 7 |
| 6 | 6 | 6 |
| 5 | 7 | 5 |
| 4 | 8 | 4 |
| 3 | 9 | 3 |
| 2 | 10 | 2 |
| 1 | 11 | 1 |
| 0 | 12 | 0 |
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Any help appreciated..

...I didn't want to revive the old post, which is why I started this new one, maybe this question is long over with but I didn't find a definitive answer in the linked post, and I just got the game, and want to be sure.

Thanks.

Thread: Re: 10 Word Review and Rules Complexity Score

william_henshaw — 2008-03-22T01:49:11+00:00

I guess after reading your review I find myself a bit "sheepish" at the thought of playing this game.

Thread: 10 Word Review and Rules Complexity Score

jgrundy — 2008-03-21T11:49:30+00:00

Following are the ten topics most characteristically mentioned about Shear Panic in user ratings comments on BGG. Hopefully after 60 seconds you'll know if you want to chase more detail.

"SHEAR PANIC" IN TEN WORDS:
(Starting with most mentions above average...)
1. Sheep
2. Cute
3. Components / Bits
4. Abstract
5. Chaotic
6. "Actions" (game terminology)
7. Flock
8. Tactics
9. Change
10. Control

RUNNER-UP TOPIC WORDS:
"Field", "Sheeples", "Adorable", "Shearing", "Ram"

CONTEXT:

1. SHEEP
"manage two sheep in a flock of 9"
"apparently hand made"
"ceramic"

2. CUTE
"behind the cute facade is quite an interesting game"
"Many people mistake this game for something light and fluffy, simply because it features very cute sheep."
"So CUTE!"

3. COMPONENTS / BITS
"definitely help bump the rating up"
"make it easier to sell to my (mostly) non-gamer friends"
"sheep pieces are cool, all of the other components are ... (not too great)"

4. ABSTRACT
"The game could fit into the abstract category, but you can tell that the designers really thought about the theme."
"It's definitely an abstract, but it's cute factor makes it a little more fun to me."
"an average Abstract"

5. CHAOTIC
"With 4, much more chaotic and tactical - maximize your points without setting up the next guy too much"
"people might like the two-player version better due to the decreased chaos"
"if you're going to give me chaos, don't make me think so much on my turn"
"Fun, cute, and somewhat chaotic but looks like there's room for skill as well."

6. "ACTIONS"
"Each player has the same 12 actions that they can take exactly once during the game."
"try to use actions to jockey their sheep into scoring positions"
"rationing of your possible actions"

7. FLOCK
"flock mechanic in itself is highly original"
"move the flock marker"
"'Resolving The Flock' element seems a bit fiddly."

8. TACTICS
"very"
"purely"
"limited"
"Full of tactical choices and screwage."

9. CHANGE
"The entire "board" can change between turns, and also during your own turn."
"after every round the goals change"

10. CONTROL
"not enough"
"illusion"
"2-player variant gives players far more control"

RULES COMPLEXITY SCORE:
13 to start a first game .. 24 (!) to be ready to fully plan ahead
(Note: roughly speaking this is a concept count, not strategic complexity)
(Note: half the rules are "visual/spatial" and easily absorbed, probably making the rules feel much less complex for most people.)

Compare:
Ra: 10 .. 14
Chess: 9 .. 12
Settlers of Catan: 12 .. 19
Puerto Rico: 20 .. 31
Ticket to Ride: 11 .. 11
Bohnanza: 9 .. 10
Carcassonne (H&G): 8 .. 11

The Rules Complexity numbers are simply a count of the number of distinct rule concepts you need to learn to participate in the game... the minimum set to get started and the full set to understand where you might be headed. This article includes a detailed discussion.

I hope you enjoy more "10 Word" reviews

Thread: Re: 2P ... what to do with a useless first Panic roll?

firewizard — 2008-02-24T19:46:36+00:00

diceman wrote:
Both red sheep are still in touch with the black sheep for the next round.

Err...isn't the first round the one where you have to be next to each other not the black sheep?

Thread: Re: Step by step, two sheepish players, one game, two endings...

keethrax — 2008-02-24T01:00:18+00:00

Awesome play by play with the little sheep images.

Thread: Step by step, two sheepish players, one game, two endings...

jgrundy — 2008-02-23T23:50:30+00:00

My wife (Red) and I (Green) hadn't played in a while, and really enjoyed the comeback in this game to a cliffhanger finish.

Note: The flock in my diagrams ALWAYS faces down. When there is a Ewe Turn, I rotate the whole display afterwards so the flock is still facing down.

Each turn shows what options the player had, and what they chose.

This writeup details EVERYTHING, showing 35 separate moves. It's medium-long, and I don't necessarily expect you read all of it. eg You could hunt out the "Thoughts:" bits for some snapshot moments. I should also note: I'm aware (after writing the game up) of TWO errors in play during this game. No matter... You'll see them as we go on.

Game Reminders (Mayfair Edition)
Each player has the following list of 12 moves to use once each during the game:
(The numbers in brackets are how many steps the Flock marker moves on the track.)
* OS (3,3)"One Small Step" ... One of your sheep takes one step. It is not allowed to push anything.
* LS (3,2)"Lamb Slam" ... One of you sheep takes one step. It pushes whatever is in its way.
* WR (3,2)"Wool Rule" ... All the sheep press as far as they can in one orthogonal direction.
* L (2,1)"Line Push" ... One orthogonal line of sheep move one step along the line.
* D (2,1)"Diagonal Push" ... One diagonal line of sheep move one step along the line.
* B (1)"Booiinggggg" ... One sheep jumps over a line of sheep to the other end.
* T (1)"Ewe Turn" ... All the sheep turn 90 degrees where they stand, thus all facing a new front.

In a 2P game, irregularly, every 3 to 5 steps of the Flock marker gives the current player a Panic die roll (which is a bonus Lamb Slam).
* Paddock #1: Flock marker 1 to 9, score on your turn if your sheep are near each other
* Paddock #2: Flock marker 10 to 28, "Roger", at 19 and 28 sheep at the front score
* Paddock #3: Flock marker 29 to 37, score on your turn if your sheep are near the black sheep
* Paddock #4: Flock marker 38 to 56, "Shearing", at 47 and 56 the front row are removed and sheep at the back score

In a 2P game, each player also gets extra Flock Points to advance the Flock Marker. Each player gets 3, 2, 2, 1, 1 value extras to use.

Setup:

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Four Panic Die Rolls
Before "real" play begins, there are two turns each of rolling the Panic Die and doing the resulting Lamb Slams.

Red's Turn: Slam Blue.
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Resolve Flock: Red moves left
(Thoughts: No, even now we still have no idea what she was thinking.)

Green's Turn: Slam Yellow
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Resolve Flock: Red moves up

Red's Turn: Slam Red
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Green's Turn: Slam Black
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Paddock #1: "Do you have your Exit Buddy?"

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(On your turn, two points if your own sheep are orthogonally adjacant, one point if they're diagonally touching.)

Red's Turn: Has: OS33, LS32, WR32, L21, D21, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 32211
Booiinggggg (1) plus 2 extra Flock points.
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Red scores +2=2 points, Flock marker on 3 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Green
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Resolve Flock: Black/Yellow move up

Green's Turn: Has: OS33, LS32, WR32, L21, D21, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 32211
One Small Step (3) plus 3 extra Flock points.
(Thoughts: This brings flock marker to end of paddock #1 since Green sees the situation is poor.)
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Resolve Flock: Blue moves down
Flock marker on 9 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Blue
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Paddock #2: "Ewe love Roger"

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(When the Flock marker reaches 19 and 28, the sheep in the front row score 4, next row score 3, next 2, next 1.)

Red's Turn: Has: OS33, LS32, WR32, L21, D21, T1 and Extra Flock Points 3211
One Small Step (3)
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Resolve Flock: Green moves up
Flock marker on 12 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Green
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Green's Turn: Has: OS3, LS32, WR32, L21, D21, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 2211
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Red's Turn: Has: OS3, LS32, WR32, L21, D21, T1 and Extra Flock Points 3211
Wool Rule (3) plus 3 extra Flock points
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Flock marker on 19 => Roger scores... Front row 4, second row 3 etc.
Red +4+3=9, Green +2+2=4

Green's Turn: Has: OS3, LS32, WR32, L2, D21, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 2211
Diagonal Push (2) plus 1 extra Flock point
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Flock marker on 22 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Black
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Red's Turn: Has: OS3, LS32, WR2, L21, D21, T1 and Extra Flock Points 211
(Thoughts: Red had a LONG ponder at this point. Worrying about Green doing a Ewe Turn or Wool Rule.)
Line Push (1)
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Resolve Flock: Blue moves left, Green rolls X moves down left.
(Thoughts: I think she didn't see she could resolve Green up left?)

Green's Turn: Has: OS3, LS32, WR32, L2, D1, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 221
Diagonal Push (1)
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Resolve Flock: Red moves up

Red's Turn: Has: OS3, LS32, WR2, L2, D21, T1 and Extra Flock Points 211
Lamb Slam (2) plus 2 extra Flock points
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Resolve Flock: Blue/Green move right
Flock marker on 28 => Roger scores... Front row 4, second row 3 etc.
Red +4+2=15, Green +3+1=8

(Thoughts: Things are looking grim for green.)

Paddock #3: "It's TRUE what they say about black sheep!"

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(On your turn, two points for each of your own sheep orthogonally adjacant to the black sheep, one point if they're diagonally touching.)

Green's Turn: Has: OS3, LS32, WR32, L2, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 221
Lamb Slam (2)
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Green scores +2+2=12 points

Red's Turn: Has: OS3, LS3, WR2, L2, D21, T1 and Extra Flock Points 11
Lamb Slam (3) plus 1 extra Flock point
(Thoughts: wants to move through this paddock as quickly as possible.)
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Red scores +2=17 points, Flock marker on 34 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Blue
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Green's Turn: Has: OS3, LS3, WR32, L2, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 221
Lamb Slam (3)
(Thoughts: reaching last space in paddock #3 and saving "Booiinggggg" for avoiding the shearer)
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Green scores +3=15 points, Flock marker on 37 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Yellow
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Resolve Flock: Yellow / Red move right

(Thoughts: Things are looking not so grim for green.)

Paddock #4: "Nobody wants to get fleeced."

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(When the Flock marker reaches 47 and 56, the sheep in the front row are removed from the game, while the back row score 4, next row score 3, next 2, next 1.)

(Thoughts: At this point, note the range of movement choices open to each player. Each has exhausted some possibilities.)
Green Has: OS3, WR32, L2, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 221

Red's Turn: Has: OS3, WR2, L2, D21, T1 and Extra Flock Points 1
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Resolve Flock: Yellow/Green/Red roll + and move up

Green's Turn: Has: OS3, WR32, L2, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 221
One Small Step (3) plus 1 extra Flock point
(Thoughts: Beginning to worry about leftover Extra Flock Points since they score a penalty if unused.)
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Red's Turn: Has: OS3, WR2, L2, D2, T1 and Extra Flock Points 1
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Green's Turn: Has: WR32, L2, B1, T1 and Extra Flock Points 22
(Thoughts: Now that Red can't turn the flock, Green has control over where the "front" will be. This means unless Green decides otherwise, "the back" will stay "the back"... and that's where you wanna be right now.)
Booiinggggg (1) plus 2 extra Flock points
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Flock marker on 46 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Blue
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Resolve Flock: Green moves right

Red's Turn: Has: OS3, WR2, L2, D2, T1 and Extra Flock Points 1
(Note: 47 is the score space. No matter how many flock points Red uses, the flock marker will end this turn on 47.)
Wool Rule (2)
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Flock marker on 47 => Shearing time
The front row, just the Black, is "sheared" and removed from the game. Back row scores 4, next row 3 etc.
Red +4+2=23, Green +4+3=22

(Thoughts: One scoring opportunity remains. Green is behind by ONE point, but is the remaining holder of a powerful Ewe Turn and useful Wool Rule. The watching farmers are on the edge of their seat with excitement.)

Green's Turn: Has: WR32, L2, T1 and Extra Flock Points 2
Line Push (2) plus 2 extra Flock points.
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Resolve Flock: Red rolls X and moves down right.

Red's Turn: Has: OS3, L2, D2, T1 and Extra Flock Points 1
One Small Step (3) plus 1 extra Flock point. (NB: A "One Small Step" move must stay "attached" to the main flock.)
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Ending #1 ...

(Still Red's turn... scores are Red=23, Green=22)
Flock marker on 55 => roll the Panic Die, Slam Green
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Green's Turn: Has: WR32, T1
Damn! Red and Green are in matching columns, so turning the flock will give us equal scores. The columns we're both reach the front AND back rows, so Wool Rule isn't going to change us around. Docked at the post!
Wool Rule (2) (Went Left, so no effect.)
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Flock marker on 56 => Shearing time
The front row, Green and Red, are "sheared" and removed from the game. Back row scores 4, next row 3 etc.
Red +3=26, Green +4=26 !!!
Tie breaker one: "Whoever has the most sheep left in the flock." ... Well, one each.
Tie breaker two: "Whoever is next to play."
RED WINS!

Ending #2 ...

(Still Red's turn... scores are Red=23, Green=22)
We played that last turn, then realised we made a mistake.
The Panic Die roll wasn't actually "Green", it was "White" (the only White in the game). Since we hadn't played in a while we thought that meant "choose". It doesn't. (But the game could have played out that way if the Panic Die had shown Green.)
If the Panic Die shows White, instead of a Lamb Slam the player does a Ewe Turn. We played it out...
Flock marker on 55 => roll the Panic Die, Ewe Turn anticlockwise. (And then I turn the display clockwise... The sheep are still facing DOWN.)
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Green's Turn: Has: WR32, T1
Wool Rule (2)
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Flock marker on 56 => Shearing time
The front row, Green and Red, are "sheared" and removed from the game. Back row scores 4, next row 3 etc.
Red +3=26, Green +5=27!
GREEN WINS!

(edit: fix image link)

Thread: Re: 2P ... what to do with a useless first Panic roll?

diceman — 2008-02-23T18:08:00+00:00

Joe,

I just realised after I posted that I had msunderstood the initial set-up. I have spent all morning as a pirate running a fundraising treasure stall so my mind is putty !

Looking at it again I would push down with the left hand green sheep. This causes the front left sheep to be further away from the other blue sheep. There is now a sheep directly in between them which is slightly more awkward to deal with. Both red sheep are still in touch with the black sheep for the next round. They are able to move into touch with one another relatively easier for this round. They are also now near the front for Roger's field (although this is some way away).

Cheers for now - and have fun !

Gordon

Gordon Lamont
Fragor Games

Thread: Re: 2P ... what to do with a useless first Panic roll?

jgrundy — 2008-02-23T17:16:25+00:00

Hi Gordon, thanks for chiming in.

In the Mayfair setup as shown, only Red and Blue are the active players so I don't need to worry how Green will score. I'm assuming I'm Red, and trying to promote my position / make it harder for Blue.

Mostly I asked the question because I was writing up a complete point-by-point session on a game my wife and I really enjoyed recently. I took full notes and reconstructed the game afterwards. Neither my wife nor I can figure what on earth she was thinking with her opening move... as Red, she slammed the top left Green sheep down/right and resolved the flock by pushing her loose Red sheep back to the left.

(It put her sheep one step further apart, and didn't touch my blues.)

Anyway, neither of us are experts. We made two incorrect moves during the game! (We picked up on one at the time, but not the other.)

Thread: Re: 2P ... what to do with a useless first Panic roll?

diceman — 2008-02-23T17:03:37+00:00

Joe,

We had not noticed the setup had been changed ! In our original design, we played the set-up as normal (with each colour a knight's move apart). Credit to Mayfair - they came up with the excellent idea of having each player roll twice (instead of once) at the start of a 2 player game to mix the flock up more.

**IGNORE MY COMMENTS HERE - see BELOW. I MISUNDERSTOOD THE SET UP !**
However, going back to your question - I would lamb slam one of the green sheep down the side of the flock. This is because :-

1. It puts the green sheep further apart for scoring in the first field (they are now more than a single lamb slam apart).

2. I like having my opponents sheep to the side of the flock as it makes them more vulnerable to wool rule and ewe turn.

3. It moves the green sheep to a space not touching the black sheep (with an eye on the 2nd field scoring). Having sheep on either side of the flock also makes it more difficult to get both sheep next to the black sheep in 1 move.

4. It may allow you a more flexibility should you roll green again.

Just some thoughts off the top of my head .... :-) My brother may disagree ! You might also - do you have a preferred move and, if so, why ?

Cheers,

Gordon

Gordon Lamont
Fragor Games

Thread: Re: 2P ... what to do with a useless first Panic roll?

jgrundy — 2008-02-23T17:02:51+00:00

Well certainly you can use most of these startup slams to nudge your opponent's sheep apart and your own together. And you might even consider working your own toward the front and theirs back a little.

You can come out of the slams with quite an advantage. In our last game, my wife had such a positional advantage (she went first) that she got her one score in, then I simply rushed to the end of Paddock #1 because I wasn't going to get anything out of it.