Game: Settlers of Catan - The Great River

Thread: Compatible with 4th edition?

eugenemarshall — 2008-08-18T02:04:01+00:00

I'm about to buy Catan 4th edition and I'm considering also buying this and the Fishermen of Catan mini-expansions. They were made for the third edition, but are they compatible with the fourth?

Thanks in advance!

-spinoza scholar

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LDP1010 — 2008-07-26T23:38:52+00:00

River from: Catan shop one piece , Atlantis 3 pieces , 3 and 4 hex river from Handler and Barbaren + river from Handler and Barbaren 5-6 expention

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fehrmeister — 2008-04-01T03:45:43+00:00

The End of a 4-Player Game With Much of the Great River Tiles Outlined in Roads

Thread: The Great River:Review in Portuguese(Critica Em Português)

MGBM — 2008-02-27T00:54:02+00:00

O Settlers Of Catan cativou o mundo para os prazeres dos boardgames. Expansões eram inevitáveis, e como tal a série do Catan recebeu muitas expansões, 5 principais e algumas mini-expansões. O Great River Of Catan é uma tal expansão, e tal como a expansão esta será uma mini-review.

O Great River é um tile, que na realidade são três tiles de terrenos colados entre si, e que substitui o deserto, uma montanha e um monte. No tile um rio nasce na montanha e desagua no pântano, o novo deserto. Pode ser usado em qualquer jogo de Catan e muda um pouco os objectivos do jogo.

A apresentação é um simples tile, pouco mais. As regras estão impressas no verso do tile.

Em termos de estratégia esta expansão vem mudar um pouco o estilo habitual de jogo. Embora não seja uma expansão que mude tremendamente o jogo, como o Event Cards o fazem, esta expansão tem a grande vantagem de tornar o deserto num sitio útil para se construir e, se adicionada com a expansão Fishermen, torna o deserto num local muito propicio de se construir. Esta é capaz de ser a maior mudança, tornar o deserto num sitio apetecível para se construir.

Agora cada jogador que construa um settlement ou city ou estrada num tile do rio ganha um ponto de ouro. Se construídas no pântano (deserto) ganham dois pontos de ouro. O que isto quer dizer? Quer dizer que cada 3 pontos de ouro valem um ponto de vitória. Isto torna os tiles onde o rio está colocado em algo muito apetecível de se construir, pois continuamos a usufruir as mesmas vantagens de construção do jogo normal. Isto muda um pouco a estratégia do jogo, pois agora ficamos com uma nova maneira de ganhar pontos de vitória, o que torna o jogo um pouco mais variado do que o Catan normal. O senão é que agora o jogo acaba aos 12 pontos e não aos 10.

Além de tornar o deserto em algo útil, esta expansão abre um pouco os horizontes do jogo base e acrescenta um pouco de variedade. A pergunta que se coloca, pois, é se é uma expansão essencial. Bem, essencial não é, pode-se passar muito bem sem ela. Mas mesmo assim eu recomendo a comprarem esta mini-expansão. É pequena, é muito barata e acaba por dar mais vantagens do que desvantagens. A outra desvantagem é que esta é a mini-expansão que menos altera a forma de jogar Catan e menos possibilidades insere no jogo. Mas ao preço que está merece ser comprada nem que seja só pelo facto de adicionar um bocadinho de variedade no jogo, o que é sempre bom para quem está farto do Catan. Com esta expansão os jogadores possivelmente conseguirão aumentar um bocadinho a longevidade do Settlers Of Catan, o que é algo bom.

Quanto a introduzir esta expansão a novatos, eu diria que não o façam se o novato jogar Catan pela primeira vez. Deixem-no jogar o Catan com as regras normais e depois ao segundo ou terceiro jogo insiram esta expansão. Dessa maneira muito possivelmente o novato irá apreciar mais a expansão.

Esta expansão acaba por prolongar um bocado o tempo de jogo do Catan, devido ao facto de agora terminar aos 12 pontos. Se acham o Catan aborrecido da maneira que é, então esta não é uma boa expansão para comprar. Se adoram o Catan então comprem já esta expansão que irá ser uma boa adição ao vosso jogo.

Como tal eu aconselho a quem puder que compre esta mini-expansão. Irá tornar os vossos jogos de Catan ligeiramente diferentes. Não muda nada de essencial mas o pouco que muda, muda bem. E isso é o que se quer de uma expansão.

Comprem, vale a pena.

13 de 20.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/20247

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rseater — 2008-01-04T02:24:11+00:00

The are on the river is re-used from the regular tiles, although only a bit of the forest art shows up on the delta.

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crich35 — 2007-10-25T22:26:26+00:00

3 hex river from Handler and Barbaren

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LDP1010 — 2007-10-10T01:29:04+00:00

River from: Catan shop one piece , Atlantis 3 pieces , 3 and 4 hex river from Handler and Barbaren

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arnaudel — 2007-09-23T16:04:51+00:00

French version included in the 2006 basic game by Filosofia

Thread: Re: First Impressions of The Great River

Dragontooth — 2007-09-19T17:13:40+00:00

I agree with most of the points brought up here, however in the one game we played with all seasoned catan players, only two people estimated it was worth staking claims to the great river.

While it's true if one person left uncontrolled to build on it may have a large advantage, as long as there is one other person competing for spots on it they can't really run away with it.

We were playing with seafaring (including 2 gold tiles), cities & knights, the event cards, the fisherman expansion as well as the great river, on a very large board with many good starting locations, but one player tried to monopolize the great river tile by placing both their starting locations on it, but this person did not win.

Thus, while this expansion adds a potential 8 victory points to someone who builds every possible settlement/city and road around every side of the great river, in a large game with many other sources of victory points, this is not the end all be all.

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aPilgrim — 2007-08-23T09:47:15+00:00

River Bits on Wood

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asta — 2007-02-25T06:03:21+00:00

Gold Rush! The end of a three player game with the River. White wins.

Thread: Re: High-res scan?

sparr0 — 2007-01-31T04:59:28+00:00

Salt-Man Z wrote:
If I recall correctly, it was a free giveaway, so there shouldn't be any legal issues with posting a high-res scan. Should there?

In the USA, and most countries with similar copyright systems, just because someone gives their work away doesn't give you the right to give away copies. Maybe they have value in rarity. Or maybe they help sell copies of the magazine.

That said, I happen to disagree with the popular modern implementation of copyright in most ways, so I have no personal problem with this image. I happen to like the artwork, and might print it up as an alternative to the english copy that I purchased (for $3 new). I am also going to upload a scan of the english version, for anyone who feels the same in the other direction.

PS: I know someone has already uploaded the english version, but they kept the shrink wrap on and scanned it crooked.

Thread: Re: Is where this piece goes "set?"

sparr0 — 2007-01-31T04:46:17+00:00

I take it to mean that it can be placed anywhere, as long as *at least* those two hex sides touch the ocean. That gives it 18 possible placements (on top of a full map. which is to say, 3 different ways a map can be built around it). The swamp can go along any of the 12 island edge hexes, with two possible orientations for each corner hex and one for each mid-edge hex.

Thread: Re: Is where this piece goes "set?"

steveoliverc — 2007-01-25T18:07:30+00:00

I always place it so that it starts at the edge and then towards the center of the board. Haven't tried it any other way but this seems to give all players a chance to place settlements near it.

Thread: Is where this piece goes "set?"

Karmic_devil — 2007-01-25T15:50:04+00:00

I have recently picked up this cheap little addition for my Settlers game. My directions say, "Place the river tile so the 2 water hexsides are on the islands edge (by sea hexes)."

By my interpretation this means that this tile could be places on of three (six) places. Right in the middle (and reversed) and to the right of that (and reversed) and on the edge (and reversed)

Yet, in the few photos this game has it is in the same place (one to the rightof the middle)

Do those of you who use this always put it in the same place? and if so, why?

Josh

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KillerB — 2007-01-24T00:41:38+00:00

Victory for Blue - even without any gold!

Thread: Re: Mayfair News - The Great River of Catan Available Now...

jhunterj — 2006-12-04T14:30:54+00:00

NateStraight wrote:
10 new "number counters?" :confused:

The magazine version only came with 8 counters (VP tokens), which is sufficient. The new $3 version might have 10 "number counters" for tracking gold points? Maybe in addition to the VP tokens?

Hunter

Thread: Re: Mayfair News - The Great River of Catan Available Now...

NateStraight — 2006-12-04T14:03:23+00:00

10 new "number counters?" :confused:

Thread: Re: Mayfair News - The Great River of Catan Available Now...

JeffyJeff — 2006-12-04T03:39:30+00:00

Priced at $3, plus I assume shipping if ordered directly from Mayfair.

Luckily my last ThoughtHammer order timed out just right and I picked up the Games Quarterly for $2.95 with this expansion.

It is a pretty small expansion... and was supposed to contain 10 counters and only had 8

Thread: Re: Mayfair News - The Great River of Catan Available Now...

jhunterj — 2006-12-04T01:15:11+00:00

Koldfoot wrote:
At least it's not another game in the Elasund and Candamir series.

Odd. Elasund is not worthwhile because why? It says Catan on it?

Anyway, I thought I'd point out that the Great River is a nice add-on, mechanics-wise, but it doesn't quite fit with the American edition; it seems to be the same size as the German original, which leaves it slightly too small for the American version. Unfortunate, but playable.

Hunter

Thread: Re: Mayfair News - The Great River of Catan Available Now...

Koldfoot — 2006-12-02T01:25:24+00:00

Looks interesting.

I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.
I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.
I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.
I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.
I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.
I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.
I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.
I'll leave it at that and not make a disparaging remark.

At least it's not another game in the Elasund and Candamir series.

Crap

Thread: Mayfair News - The Great River of Catan Available Now...

Nickcatan — 2006-12-01T20:47:44+00:00

The Great River of Catan variant is now available for purchase in the Mayfair Online Shop!

This new Catan variant — designed by Klaus Teuber himself — is available at our online shop now and will be at your local retailer soon!

Introducing to the world of Catan, The Great River of Catan™! A unique, three-tile, die-cut piece that brings the excitement of the gold rush to your The Settlers of Catan™ game and your Cities and Knights or Seafarers as well. This new variant includes: 1 three hex river tile to fit your base game, 10 new number counters, and special rules.

The Great River of Catan™ challenges Catan fans to race for the gold by building settlements and roads alongside the river tile. Those who build along its banks stand to profit from the gold craze sweeping the land, for they will receive gold for each settlement and road they build on the river. Once players have accumulated sufficient gold they may exchange it for victory points!

This new variant, which once appeared in Games Quarterly Magazine, will be available for purchase in our online shop now and at retailers soon.

For more information about The Great River of Catan™ please visit the product page at:

www.mayfairgames.com

-Nick
Mayfair Games, Inc.

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Valien — 2006-11-19T02:39:11+00:00

Settlers of Catan - The Great River - English Version (GQ #10)

Thread: Re: More like the "Weak Stream" of Catan.

JeffyJeff — 2006-10-27T16:44:49+00:00

gonzo104 wrote:
It does fit with the German Settlers.
I see you are in Germany though... I assume you have the version of Der Grosse Fluss from Spielbox, not from Games Quarterly?

Thread: Re: More like the "Weak Stream" of Catan.

steveoliverc — 2006-10-27T13:35:47+00:00

The difference in the size of the Great River tiles from the Mayfair tiles is annoying but doesn't break the game or require a fix.

Thread: Re: More like the "Weak Stream" of Catan.

Grimwold — 2006-10-27T12:41:12+00:00

I own this, but hadn't tried it... I tested it with my mayfair copy and sure enough it's fractionally too small..
One solution might be to place regular tiles where the river is going to be, and place the river across the top. I experimented with this, but haven't had chance to actually play the game.

Thread: Re: More like the "Weak Stream" of Catan.

steveoliverc — 2006-10-26T23:36:57+00:00

Yes, that does get things off to a bad start when it doesn't even fit in with the tiles it's supposed to replace. I also agree with you that it isn't an earth-shattering expansion by any means. But for $4, it's worth adding to your game if you can get it. I've played five games with it and it does add another way to get 2 or 3 victory points for the player(s) who decide to pursue it. In my games, usually only 2 players get into a position to really get a chance at those 2 or 3 points.

If you're looking for expansions that come in magazines, try the Fishermen of Catan which is much better and adds a lot to the game. In fact, we play with both the Great River and the Fishermen now.

Thread: Re: More like the "Weak Stream" of Catan.

gonzo104 — 2006-10-26T11:57:03+00:00

It does fit with the German Settlers.

Thread: More like the "Weak Stream" of Catan.

themagni — 2006-10-25T22:49:54+00:00

I first heard about this expansion from BGG. "Hey," I thought, "a quick and cheap expansion for Settlers? Nice."

It was hard to get. My local store only had non-wrapped copies of Games Quarterly. I did get a copy from a store in another city when I went there on a quick family vacation. The magazine itself was of reasonable quality.

My first impression was one of impatience. We wouldn't have had time to game on the trip, so we only brought Bohnanza. (Being quick and 2 player.) So, the river sat there, taunting me, laughing at me for not being able to play SoC: tGR.

Eventually, we got home and had a chance to play. I punched it out, started setting up the... hey, what the heck is going on here?

The stupid thing is the wrong size. That's right, IT DOES NOT FIT Settlers of Catan. How could that get through quality control? You'd think that would be at least on the top ten things to check: Is this triple tile the same size as the other tiles? If it had just been a static sticker, it would have been a better expansion: "Set up so that there is a mountain in the middle, a brick adjacent, then the desert tile. Place this cheap plastic river on top of the three tiles."

When I suggest that your expansion could be improved by replacing it with a window cling, you have serious issues.

We can read the rules quite clearly on the scans, so they aren't worth going over. You get gold for building near the river. Trade gold for VPs. Go to 12 instead of 10. That's it.

It's really not worth the hype. Maybe if it had fit, it would be worth using again. The size just shows that it was a half-made hack that wasn't thought through. I've played one game with the river. Maybe if I played more Settlers, I'd be more interested. As it is, I don't think it really adds a lot to the gameplay other than encouraging players to build out to a resourceless point in the middle of nowhere.

And maybe in a world where people have suggested - and seriously - a version of Settlers with nuclear weapons, a change of pace every now and then is a good idea.

Thread: First Impressions of The Great River

the1jugg — 2006-10-10T16:09:11+00:00

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To begin, I'm unsure whether this expansion should be called The Great River of Catan, or rather The Pretty Good River of Catan. Furthermore, I will not be discussing the mechanics of using this expansion, that has been covered elsewhere. Instead, I will offer my first impressions and opinions only.

I had been anxiously checking the mail for several days, awaiting my copy of Games Quarterly. I was pleased to see that while the game had been stuffed in my mailbox, the cardboard add-on was not bent or damaged. But, I'm sure you don't care about my anxieties.

Setup
When we set up the river, we noticed that since it was cut as 3 hexes as 1 die-cut tile, it was a tight fit. The hexes around the river never did quite fit the way 3 normal tiles would (see Image). In the end, we just had to accept that roads were falling into the small gaps left between the pieces.

Starting
As Settlers of Catan players know, games are often won or lost by the starting locations you choose. Since we were trying the new expansion, we each rushed to stake our claim on the river spots with at least one of our starting settlements. As my fellow players mused afterwards, the opportunity to score extra victory points was distracting to the main purpose of getting good resources with decent values on them (My wife still maintains this is why she lost).

The Play
As the game progressed, we each branched off in our own directions in order to aquire more resources (since we all started with Brick and Iron. This game played very slow due to the fact that there was no wheat adjacent to the river, so expansion was harder than usual. The river was more-or-less forgotten, and only became usefull to snag a few extra victory points. But, since we each started on the river, we each shared the same number of victory points for most of the game. The river then became a place to build roads to nowhere as we each tried to get a couple of extra gold points where possible.

In Conclusion
We all started from the river, and we all scored either 1 or 2 victory points due to the gold. Since the game was won by a score of 12 - 7 - 6, the river seemed to have little impact. However, this was being played by a very casual group of gamers with a varying skill level. I can see a situation arising where NOT staking a claim on the river to be very detrimental. If 1 player is allowed to monopolize the river, it could be a game winning situation, easily scoring many victory points. So, as soon as 1 player stakes a claim on the river, it seems to be necessary for all players to stake their claim if they want to remain competitive. I'm sure there are those of you who will disagree with my alaysis, and I would welcome further discussion.

So, is it a great expansion? No, not really, in my opinion. It does add some variety to the basic formula. It is a nice way to add some new possibilites when playing the basic game. I think it would add some unecessary complication to Knight and Cities. Is it a great pack-in to be given away in a magazine? Absolutely. For $7 CAD, you can't lose.

Thread: Re: Three players give it a try

benwang — 2006-09-12T05:16:47+00:00

hmm, in my game group, we use this expansion with Fisherman of Catan and stcik the winning condition to 10 VP. It creates far more tense game since every one is closed to winning in the end.

Thread: Three players give it a try

ctalbot — 2006-09-11T14:27:24+00:00

Last night, after much debate about what to play, my girlfriend Jacquie, my friend Logan and I decided to give the new Great River of Catan expansion a try. I just bought this a few days ago, so this is actually kind of odd that it's hitting the table so soon.

We took out the desert, a mountain and a hill, and then shuffled up the deck of land tiles and created a random setup (a setup that put all three mountains on 2, 3 and 4 rolls ). As I set up the water, I suddenly realized the slight production fault with the Great River tile piece. It's slightly smaller than the standard Mayfair pieces. While it was a little annoying, it wasn't that big of a deal. It just meant everything didn't quite fit together perfectly.

We started off playing. I positioned a settlement not far from the Great River mountain hex. Jacquie positioned a settlement closer to the swamp. Logan was the only person to actually position a settlement where he could gain a couple of gold points (GPs) immediately. While I at first thought this would give him an advantage, I was proven wrong later in the game. Simply put, he came in last.

With the Great River expansion, the needed victory points (VPs) to win is increased from ten to twelve. This made sense at first because of the extra ways to gain VPs, but as we started to come close to the endgame, VP progression slowed down considerably. While part of this obviously had to do with the rarity of ore, the number of VPs gained by building roads and settlements on the river hexes didn't seem to speed the game up at all. In fact, quite the opposite. I spent at least three or four turns sitting at ten VPs before I was able to get an eleventh. My twelfth took a few more turns to get.

By the time it was finished, we were all just happy the game was over. While the Great River of Catan expansion has some good ideas, it just didn't work for us. I should probably note I haven't been impressed with Catan expansions to date (I've played the 5-6 Player Expansion, Cities & Knights of Catan and Fisherman of Catan).

The final VP tally was:

Chris - 12
Jacquie - 10
Logan - 9

It was a fairly close game. Logan has the least experience with Settlers of Catan of the three of us, so perhaps if he had had more plays under his belt, he would've been able to better make use of his river settlement. But perhaps not.

I don't think we're going to bust out Great River of Catan again any time soon. While Settlers of Catan is far from my favourite game, I think I much prefer it without expansions.

Chris

Thread: Re: Review - The Big River

BeyondMonopoly — 2006-09-11T03:32:25+00:00

This is also available in the US free with copies of Games Quarterly Issue #10.

Thread: Review - The Big River

Naturelich — 2006-09-10T23:30:51+00:00

The Big River (Der Große Fluss) is a scenario for The Settlers of Cantan (Die Siedler von Catan) and its' extensions. The scenario was a free giveaway during the Spiel 2005 in Essen. If you live in Europe, another way of obtaining a copy freely, was by ordering something else from Catan Shop (They put it on top of any order, as long as supply lasted).
The scenario consists of three connected hexagons, replacing three tiles from the original game: The Big River springs from the mountains, runs through the hills, branches out in the swamp as a Delta and finally reaches the sea. As the river is rich in gold players want to build as many streets and settlements on the river banks. Ultimately, the collected gold helps scoring additional victory points.

Game preparation
Place the expansion with its' delta adjacent to the sea (edge of frame). Remove the following tiles from the base game: 1 mountain, 1 brick and the desert and put them back into the game box. The remaining tiles are used to setup the game regularly. However, instead of placing a number, the swamp field is the starting field in which the robbers start. No settlement max be founded adjacent to the swamp during the Gründungs phase.

The Game
The regular rules apply. Additionally, each road built on a river tile as well as each settlement and city built on an intersection with a river tile receives one gold point. A settlement or a city at the placed on the very end of the Delta (where the gold nugget is located) receives two gold points. Each player receives one victory point for every three gold points. To win the game, 12 victory points are required.

Seafarers
In addition, a ship adjacing the delta receives one gold point, as long as it is not moved. If a player loses one gold point by moving the ship, this may also cause the loss of the corresponding victory point. To win the game, an additional 2 victory points are required.

Cities and Knights
Knights on intersections at the river tiles do not earn a gold point. Otherwise, the Seafarer rules apply also to streets, if the "Diplomat" is in play. To win the game, an additional 2 victory points are required.

Der grosse Fluss is a neat addition to the rich Catan universe. It does not add something spectatcular. Nor does it change gameplay substantially. It moves the desert to the border and makes it more attractive to build a settlement there. I could live without owning this extension. Only if you are a hardcore Catan collector you should hurry and order something from Catan Shop or look for a copy on ebay.
The main purpose of this scenario unfolds if you have a friend who is a die-hard Catan-fan. If he does not own this, The Big River scenario is a nice small christmas or birthday present. Something which nicely adds to a major present and makes the unwrapping process more exciting for any Catan fan...

(Originally posted on http://www.naturelich.com/games/archives/2005/11/die_siedler...)

Thread: Re: So what are the ACTUAL rules?

bobm174 — 2006-09-05T20:44:57+00:00

Thanks Chris!

Bob

Thread: Re: Games Quarterly Magazine - The Great River of Catan

JeffyJeff — 2006-09-04T18:08:26+00:00

shawn_low wrote:
Not a great magazine: more like one big advertorial space.
From the base post:
Games Quarterly Magazine and GQM, are trademarks owned by Matthews Simmons Marketing.

Thread: Re: Games Quarterly Magazine - The Great River of Catan

GeoMan — 2006-09-04T17:23:52+00:00

shawn_low wrote:
Not a great magazine: more like one big advertorial space.

I agree... nothing of interest for Eurogamers.

Thread: Re: So what are the ACTUAL rules?

Salt-Man Z — 2006-09-02T17:04:09+00:00

The Mayfair rules say that items built "on the edge/corner of a river hex" are worth 1 GP. But it also refers to each terrain type as its own hex, so I take that to mean that yes, you get 1 GP for building a road across the river.

(The 3-tile version in the Atlantis set functions this way as well.)

Thread: Re: Games Quarterly Magazine - The Great River of Catan

skullfire — 2006-09-02T07:59:32+00:00

Indeed, only 8 gold points.

Thread: Re: So what are the ACTUAL rules?

bobm174 — 2006-09-01T22:07:22+00:00

Greg's math of it makes a lot of sense but now that they have
released this in Games Journal Magazine, was there ever an
official ruling on this.

I just a copy but need to read the rule set provided. Hopefully
it is clear on this point.

Bob

Thread: Re: Games Quarterly Magazine - The Great River of Catan

bobm174 — 2006-09-01T20:29:29+00:00

Does this really come with 10 counters? I just got mine and have
the 8 victory point counters.

Thread: Re: Games Quarterly Magazine - The Great River of Catan

shawn_low — 2006-09-01T14:33:07+00:00

Picked my copy up today. Games Quarterly is trying to do a spielbox: the next issue features an 'exclusive' 12 tile Carcassone expansion...but also sees a $1 price hike.

Not a great magazine: more like one big advertorial space.

Thread: Games Quarterly Magazine - The Great River of Catan

Werebear — 2006-05-26T18:55:09+00:00

Games Quarterly Announces...

Games Quarterly #10 will feature a brand new Expansion for the worldwide hit game The Settlers of Catan™.

The Great River of Catan™ is a must for every player. It’s die cut with three new hexagonal board pieces exactly matching the game, ten new counters & special rules. Courtesy of designers Klaus and Guido Teuber and the great folks at Mayfair Games.

Gold! No word can inspire in quite the same way. Eager prospectors rush to the banks of the great river, pans in hand, hoping for a glimpse of the storied yellow powder! The gold rush in on in Catan. Can you profit from it? Find out with The Great River variant for The Settlers of Catan. A unique tile introduces the river to the island. Those who build along it’s banks stand to profit from the gold craze sweeping the land. But will it be enough to push you to victory?

Games Quarterly has great coverage of all types of non-electronic games. With fantastic extras like The Great River of Catan™ it’s worth far more than cover price of $3.95.

Then, in Games Quarterly #11 this November the special insert will be an expansion for one of Rio Grande Game’s great games. Which game it’ll be for is a secret. Our plans involve a great expansion in every issue from now on.

Available August 8, 2006.
Ask your local store, or call in the USA toll free 866-289-3277, or dial 303-469-3277.

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The Settlers of Catan is a trademark of Catan LLC. Used by permission. Games Quarterly Magazine and GQM, are trademarks owned by Matthews Simmons Marketing. All Rights Reserved.

Thread: It is in the Atlantis expansion

Kevin_Whitmore — 2005-12-24T17:38:53+00:00

I just got my copy of the Atlantis expansion pack for Die Sidler von Catan. Der Grosse Fluss is included in the various materials within the box. A copy of Ereignisse auf Catan is also included. (Although it has the known numbering problem.)

The copy of Der Grosse Fluss is printed on the backside of three other tiles, making this a tiny bit different than the single triple tile that was given away at Essen. But it answers my open question of whether the rules allows one to build a road across the river. (Yes)

Anyway this is probably the simplest way for non-Europeans to get ahold of Der Grosse Fluss and Erignisse auf Catan.

Cheers,

Kevin Whitmore

Thread: Re: So what are the ACTUAL rules?

Stile86 — 2005-12-23T06:46:12+00:00

The card containing the tile also contains 8 flags for 8 victory points. Since the rules require 3 gold for each victory point, this means that the flags cater for a maximum of 24 gold. On that basis I would interpret the rules as follows:

At most 7 settlements can be built, one of which (on the gold nugget) is worth 2 gold, making a total of 8 gold from settlements. There are 14 sides to the tile plus 2 places between the hexes (across the river) where roads could be built giving a total of 16 roads for 16 gold. This gives a total of 24 gold which matches exactly to the 8 victory flags.

My German is pretty much non-existant but this seems to make sense to me. Hopefully it also does to you.

Thread: Re: Availability?

Jacob Busby — 2005-11-15T12:36:23+00:00

Thanks

Thread: Re: Availability?

GeoMan — 2005-11-14T17:05:20+00:00

Jacob Busby wrote:
I've no idea how to change that flag symbol by my profile, but I'm based in the UK, not the US. Mind you, if they don't send to Greece, it's questionable how likely they'll send anything to Blighty. Still one can but try... so I'll reiterate the question. Does anybody have an e-mail address for Catan Shop? Thanks.

info@catanshop.de

Thread: Re: Availability?

Jacob Busby — 2005-11-14T16:26:24+00:00

I've no idea how to change that flag symbol by my profile, but I'm based in the UK, not the US. Mind you, if they don't send to Greece, it's questionable how likely they'll send anything to Blighty. Still one can but try... so I'll reiterate the question. Does anybody have an e-mail address for Catan Shop? Thanks.

Thread: Re: Availability?

Salt-Man Z — 2005-11-14T02:33:23+00:00

GeoMan wrote:
You can print the hi-res picture posted here, laminate it and use it instead. I tried it and it works fine.
That's what I did. I would recommend, though, if you use the Mayfair edition, that you use an image editor to redden the central (hills) hex of the Fluss tile -- it prints out quite yellowish and looks rather like a wheat field otherwise.

Thread: Re: Availability?

GeoMan — 2005-11-12T16:49:06+00:00

cfarrell wrote:
Any suggestions for how to get ahold of this outside of German-speaking countries? http://www.catanshop.de/ has it, but they won't ship to the US.

Chris

It's even worse. I contacted them and they don't even sell to Greece...

You can print the hi-res picture posted here, laminate it and use it instead. I tried it and it works fine.

Thread: Re: Availability?

Jeff Paull — 2005-11-12T15:27:40+00:00

after nearly 2 years, Catan Shop still does not ship to US.

best bet is to get to know some of the online players from Germany and then ask them to order it for you and ship it. PayPay, patience and being a decent person all help in this.

--JP

Thread: Re: So what are the ACTUAL rules?

Kevin_Whitmore — 2005-11-12T06:09:55+00:00

By my reading of the German, each road at the edge of a river space gets one gold point. In addition each settlement on a corner by the river gets one gold point. (Cities also, but they don't get two gold points.) A settlement or city errected at the gold nugget is worth 2 gold points.

For every 3 gold points on the board, you can claim a victory point chip. I see nothing about limiting a player to only 3 victory points from gold.

It is less clear if one can lay a road across the river. I'd guess so, but the rules seem silent on this.

"Jede Straße an der Kante eines Flussfeldes und jede Siedlung oder Stadt auf der Kreuzung eines Flussfeldes ist 1 Goldpunkt wert."

"an der Kante" refers to the edge, What I am unsure of is if they mean the edge of the TILE or the edges of the three spaces. Since this is the first time we've ever seen more than one playing space on a tile, I am unsure how to interpret the German instruction.

Kevin Whitmore

Thread: Re: What's the middle hex?

Kevin_Whitmore — 2005-11-12T05:52:57+00:00

Sorry Chris,

I just got it today, and figured the same thing out. I'm looking forward to trying it out!

Kevin

Thread: Re: Availability?

Jacob Busby — 2005-11-11T16:13:48+00:00

Does anybody have an e-mail address for Catan Shop? My German is a little rusty and I couldn't find an e-mail address for their sales department.

Thread: Re: So what are the ACTUAL rules?

Jacob Busby — 2005-11-11T16:10:57+00:00

I haven't got the rules, but looking at the tile, there are only nine Gold tokens. In this light I'd go for:

1 per community (Settlement or City) adjoining the Hex (maximum of 7 Gold) plus one per bridge across the river (maximum of 2 Gold) total Tokens: 9

Alternatively, I guess you could make your own rules and combine it with Fishermen and make the River a source of Fish. If you harvest a resource from a river hex you get the option of the relevant resource or a draw from the Fish cup.

Thread: Re: What's the middle hex?

Salt-Man Z — 2005-11-04T15:26:14+00:00

I'll answer my own question, I guess.

The first hex is mountains, the second is hills, and the last hex is swamp, which functions as the desert.

There.

Thread: So what are the ACTUAL rules?

Salt-Man Z — 2005-11-03T16:31:30+00:00

So far, two people have translated the rules for this tile, but they don't quite agree.

One says that roads that CROSS the river and buildings on the edge of said crossings earn a goldpoint.

The other translation says that EVERY road, settlement, or city builty anywhere on the hex is worth a goldpoint.

Which one is it?

Thread: Re: High-res scan?

Salt-Man Z — 2005-11-03T16:13:24+00:00

Thank you!

Thread: Re: High-res scan?

SteveK2 — 2005-11-02T22:00:27+00:00

The image got accepted quickly: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/100464

Enjoy.

Thread: Re: High-res scan?

SteveK2 — 2005-11-02T16:37:12+00:00

I've submitted a scan - lets see if it gets accepted.