Game: Sorry!

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zombiegod — 2008-09-04T17:35:06+00:00

Vintage Rulebook

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

jackmitch — 2008-08-28T01:30:23+00:00

While I do not rate Sorry a 10, I agree that it is an excellent game and a superb family game. During family vacations and holidays, we often play Sorry, and it is not uncommon that we play three or four consecutive games. If played with the Adult rules, there is a considerable amount of strategy. It is also a game that can be enjoyed simultaneously by a wide range of ages. When our children were small, we sometimes had a four-year-old intermixed with a teenager and two adults. In fact, our younger daughter (who is now 24) quickly developed into the best Sorry player in our extended family. Because most of us were introduced to Sorry as children, we are inclined to dismiss it as a "child's game." It can serve that purpose, but it is so much more.

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zombiegod — 2008-07-15T11:30:46+00:00

Thread: No apologies

Thommy8 — 2008-07-03T02:40:31+00:00

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/07/02/funny-pictures-invo...

Thread: Re: Rules for Sorry!

Blott — 2008-06-18T18:02:40+00:00

Here you go: http://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/Sorry_(2002).pdf

Thread: Re: Rules for Sorry!

Psauberer — 2008-06-18T17:59:38+00:00

Go to the Customer Service section of www.hasbro.com. There is a section with game instructions. You should be able to find the rules for your edition there.

Thread: Rules for Sorry!

Mette Vuns — 2008-06-18T17:53:10+00:00

I've bought an 80'ties edition of Soory!, but the rules are missing. Can anyone please help me?

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

ravenstrup — 2008-06-02T15:53:59+00:00

Absolutely agree. This is another game that has been in our family for four-five generations (along with Contack and Colorito). The element of chance in picking up the cards creates suspense, the slides can be great fun to knock people back to their start, and the best laid strategies can get undermined quite unexpectedly. Simple to learn, but very good social and emotional training for kids because there are ups and downs but none completely devastating.

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handofachlys — 2008-05-18T21:22:28+00:00

Sorry Drawing by Brittany

Thread: Re: sorry played with dice????

SigPig — 2008-05-17T13:01:08+00:00

They showed such a version on the Carol Burnett Show ("Mama's Family" sketch). They rolled dice to move the pawns; when a "Sorry!" was rolled, the player picked up a little bell, rang it, and cried "Sorrrrryyyyyyy!"

I have no idea what they rolled to get a "Sorry!"

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garygarison — 2008-04-17T07:16:33+00:00

old PB Sorry ad from brochure

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

test4echo — 2008-04-11T22:34:53+00:00

Great review. Just joined this site and for fun searched for Sorry!. This is one of the games I have recently introduced to the family, and we have a great time playing. I bought it for A) my own nostalgia and B) I was at a Walmart looking for a last-minute boardgame buy to take on a weekend family camping trip for under $20, that a 7 yo could play.

Thanks for the notes on the adult team play. Makes we wanna try it out.

I am somewhat puzzled by the negative reaction to the whole "Sorry!" card concept: while I understand my 7 yo child getting initially upset, it was an opportunity to teach him about being a good sport and being mature. Which worked, BTW, now he takes it in stride like he should, and has realized this is a real minor bump in life, eh? I mean, it isn't as bad as being betrayed by a friend in Diplomacy ...

Anyway, I do think it is fun, given it's niche. 4.6 is too low. Maybe the ratings should be made in accordance with other games of that type? I do feel a little silly rating this alongside Advanced Squad Leader for instance.

Thread: Re: Sorry, no board?

whac3 — 2008-04-04T01:27:38+00:00

[q="garygarison"]Perhaps first "commercially published" expansion, then?

That'd be a tough call even were I more up-to-date on modern game-board history. I tend to know more of the old games, hence for example my Geeklist on ancient board games.

Certainly Sorry! would be an earlier modern [dating commerical board games as "modern" arguably from as early as c1880 but predominately as a 20th century phenomenon]. I would however call Sorry! more an innovation on a classic game than an expansion of it. That's where things get sticky. Innovations in chess, shogi and other classic games have occured continuously since antiquity to date; they're sill going on and probably always will. Kendo for example is basically a modified form of Agon.

Thread: Re: Sorry, no board?

garygarison — 2008-04-03T21:07:11+00:00

Perhaps first "commercially published" expansion, then?

Thread: Re: Sorry, no board?

whac3 — 2008-04-03T21:00:21+00:00

I don't know about that.

The Romans added a dux to the Greek Petteia to make Latruculorum but I'm not even sure THAT was the first.

Thread: Re: Sorry, no board?

garygarison — 2008-04-03T20:42:29+00:00

So does this qualify Sorry! as being the very first example of an expansion pack to a base game?

Thread: Re: Sorry, no board?

whac3 — 2008-04-03T20:25:29+00:00

garygarison wrote:
So Sorry was actually a separately-sold expansion to Pachisi?

Yes in the sense that Sorry! is a VERSION of Pachisis using cards in lieu of cowry shells or dice.

Notice that the Sorry! board is just the Pachisi board re-arranged and with the slides added. The slides were introduced with the board.

Thread: Re: Sorry, no board?

garygarison — 2008-04-03T20:17:20+00:00

So Sorry was actually a separately-sold expansion to Pachisi?

Thread: Re: Sorry, no board?

whac3 — 2008-04-03T20:10:31+00:00

Use a Pachisi board

Thread: Sorry, no board?

garygarison — 2008-04-03T06:38:09+00:00

Vintage Sorry games consist of just cards and pawns. Was the board sold separately? Or were gamers expected to play on tiled floors, like in Olde India?

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

mst3k4L — 2008-03-25T18:29:22+00:00

Have you played for 5-8 straight hours ( all day , maybe even upt o 12 hours ) and are still ready to do it again the next day??? Serious, you have a pile of other games beside you , and your talking your friends into more Sorry?
According to BGG, a rating of both a 9 and 10 mean that you "always want to play it". If I interpretted "always want to play it" the same way you do, then I would not rate any games as a 9 or a 10. No matter how good a game is, I will want to play something else after 10+ games in a row. There are a lot of games out there that I enjoy, and even more that I want to try out.

If we continue your definition of "always want to play", then do you want to play it every time you play a game no matter who you are playing with? I believe Axis and Allies is a great game. I rank it a 9. However, I would not want to play it with just anyone. I would not want to play it with my mom, my wife, or 4 newbies. The game would take to long to explain, and I can guarentee that my mom and wife would not enjoy it.

Therefore, when I say that I "always want to play" a game, I mean that I always want to play it within reason. It means I want to play it if we have enough willing players, enough time, and have not played 10+ games of it already. Like I said previously, if I did not stay within this reasoning, I would not rank any games higher than an 8.

But if we have not already played Sorry! to death, then yes, I will always suggest it to a group of gamers even if there is a pile of other boardgames next to us. Therefore I rate it a 10.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

MrCryptic — 2008-03-24T17:18:22+00:00

I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer, I can and have played board games fover 12 or more hours at a time, and some RPG sessions have gone on longer. I love games like Power Grid, Carcassonne, and Puerto Rico. But I also love games like Backgammon, Parcheesi, and yes, even Sorry. I applaud you for standing up for your favorite games, and don't let the BGG snobs get you down. Play what you like and rate any game as high or low as you want.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

actionman — 2008-03-24T11:53:21+00:00

Cool... I don't rate it a 10, but when we play it with 4 adults who negotiate, it becomes much more interesting.

It's also a great warm up for a group about to play lifeboats. It really gets people in the mood for arguing, and "suggesting" moves.

Scott

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

kq76 — 2008-03-22T23:38:45+00:00

Balthus_Dire wrote:
I'll rarely ask to play parchesi, but if coaxed enough by my family, I have on occasion had fun with that game. But this is where Sorry does and always has stuck in my craw--even / especially as a kid. "Sorry?" nobody's "sorry" when they play a sorry card, they've screwed you over and feel good about it. It's flat disingenuous and encourages smarmy sarcasm in play ("oh, did that hurt you? I'm sooooo Sorry"), which always has grated on my nerves. This is a screw your neighbour game plain and simple, which would be less tedious in my book without the sarcasm.

small and nitpicky point, maybe, but why I'll on some occasions let myself be talked into Parchesi, but never into Sorry. There's no good sportsmanship in fake apologizing as you screw someone over repeatedly. It's like it's apologizing for being a game, or something.

Personally, whenever I play a Sorry card on someone I am genuinely sorry to do it. You have to do what's best for yourself in the game, sure, but you can still be yourself sorry you hurt one person in particular to do that.

Now I'm sure there are people who play it different and will rub it in your face, but that's not been my experience. Well, maybe a bit if you hurt them previously, but still, I don't think I've experienced it neary as bad as you.

I read a post somewhere by someone who had a replacement term for "screw your neighbour" which gave a completely different connotation. Games don't have to be like that and Sorry is a great example. Your story tells me more about your gaming partners more than it does about the game.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

Balthus_Dire — 2008-03-22T22:10:24+00:00

The great thing about it, from a emotional/social learning perspective, is that even as you're sticking it to your opponent, the game is suggesting that you use good sportsmanship and do it in a kindly manner. It's called Sorry!, and it has "Sorry" cards, after all, not "Screw Your Neighbor" cards.

I'll rarely ask to play parchesi, but if coaxed enough by my family, I have on occasion had fun with that game. But this is where Sorry does and always has stuck in my craw--even / especially as a kid. "Sorry?" nobody's "sorry" when they play a sorry card, they've screwed you over and feel good about it. It's flat disingenuous and encourages smarmy sarcasm in play ("oh, did that hurt you? I'm sooooo Sorry"), which always has grated on my nerves. This is a screw your neighbour game plain and simple, which would be less tedious in my book without the sarcasm.

small and nitpicky point, maybe, but why I'll on some occasions let myself be talked into Parchesi, but never into Sorry. There's no good sportsmanship in fake apologizing as you screw someone over repeatedly. It's like it's apologizing for being a game, or something.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

Hendal — 2008-03-21T23:21:22+00:00

I also had no idea there was advanced rules, and I honestly never thought of house ruling a simple game I think of as a kids game - and yet I think of house ruling almost any other game I play. This thread has opened my eyes a lot, thanks all, interesting reading.

Have you played for 5-8 straight hours ( all day , maybe even upt o 12 hours ) and are still ready to do it again the next day??? Serious, you have a pile of other games beside you , and your talking your friends into more Sorry?

Just checking, you calling it a 10 in your book. And then of course you have friends who will play 5 games of sorry in a row? WOW, that is the amazing part to me. Don't get me wrong, I am a gamer and would gladly sit down to 5 or 6 games of sorry, especially with the advanced rules. But I don;t see a 2nd day of it, or not choosing something else. Where as I have played over 8 straight weeks of Heroscape and wanted more everyday ( playing easily 8 hours or more a day - that is a 10 to me, I am 40 by the way ).

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

porter235 — 2008-03-21T13:59:31+00:00

Thanks for mentioning the alternate rules. I may just keep my eyes open for a copy during yard sale season.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

kq76 — 2008-03-20T18:19:26+00:00

For what it is, Sorry rocks! A 10? No, not in my books. But it is certainly worth much more than a 4.6. I can only imagine that people who rate it so low have not played it with the hand of cards and a piece already out variations. Once you do, I don't think you can justify not rating it higher.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

WhiteKong — 2008-03-20T01:52:08+00:00

Sorry is boring, plain and simple. However, there is something that can be done to make all boring games more interesting and that is to either A) play for money, or B) turn them into a drinking game. I think Sorry! would fit into category B quite nicely.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

corriefunk — 2008-03-20T01:23:13+00:00

I'm a social worker, and I play Sorry! with kids all the time. It scales up or down to their level easily, and is adaptable enough to encourage forward thinking and/or sportsmanship. For myself, I like many other games more, but I still gave it a 7.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

mst3k4L — 2008-03-19T23:01:48+00:00

I do try and follow the ratings guide here on the Geek. They are described below:
10 - "Outstanding. Always want to play and expect this will never change."
9 - "Excellent game. Always want to play it."
8 - "Very good game. I like to play. Probably I'll suggest it and will never turn down a game."

And now to answer your question. I guess it depends on what you mean by "always". Do I want to play Sorry! when I am sleeping? No, I would rather sleep because I am probably tired. However, if there are 4 people around looking for something to do, I will always suggest it or another 9/10 ranked game because I will want to play it. And yes, even if the group is all hardcore gamers, I will still suggest Sorry!.

Because of the fact that I try to follow the ratings guide, I do not distinguish between "kiddie" and "normal" games. If I enjoy a kid's game, then I will be sure to rate it as such. If I do not, I will rate it low, even if it is great for kids. As for me not playing games that much, you are partially right. I have only been seriously gaming for about a year, and only been registered on this website about a month. So no, I do not have as much experience as many of the people here, but I do know what I like and what I do not like. Maybe more gaming will change my taste of Sorry!, but I played the game last month and it was still as fun as ever. True, we played our varient with Uno cards (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/296832) but close enough.

There are tons of much better games out there that meet all of your criteria. Or maybe you just like to stir the pot?
Yes, there are a slew of games out there that all meet my criteria, and I do enjoy many of them. I am not trying to say these are bad games, I am just saying that I like Sorry! more than any of the ones I have currently played. Maybe that will change with time, but maybe it will not. As for stiring the pot, I normally try to stir the pot whenever my opinion clashes with the majority and I can actually add something to the discussion. That is why I added this glowing review to Sorry! instead of Carcassonne, Settlers, Puerto Rico, etc. Those games already have plenty of positive reviews and I have nothing new to add to them.

I will rarely if ever form an opposing opinion just stir the pot. Playing devil's advocate is one thing; changing your opinion so it does not match the norm is another. Like I said earlier, I was just trying to give Sorry! some love and maybe cause a few people to go try the game again and raise their ratings. I had no idea the response would be this huge! Thanks again for the input (and for calling me nuts ).

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

kmundo — 2008-03-19T21:22:26+00:00

To make Sorry a better game, add gambling! Every time you get a piece out of home, put a quarter under it (Non-North Americans: replace quarter with any coin of your local currency). Then every time you land on someone else you combine the $ that is under their piece with the $ under your piece. This keeps going until you get the piece into "Safe" and you collect the $. The eventual winner of the game, may not be the one who wins the most $.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

nerman8r — 2008-03-19T19:49:23+00:00

I use the ratings the way they are explained on the geek. The rating guide that pops up explains that 10 means: "outstanding. I always want to play and expect that will never change." I can appreciate why you like the game, and I enjoy the odd game of Sorry too, although I modify the rules, but do you really *always* want to play it? The games I have rated 10 are games I would play again and again, every day, if I had the time and playing games was my #1 priority. I would likely never turn someone down if they wanted to play one of my 10's, and they would trump any other game, except another 10, or a game I had never played and was very excited about.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

jidar — 2008-03-19T19:47:31+00:00

I'm going to take a page from your book and buck the trend here when I say I think you're nuts. If I rate it as a kids game for kids then it deserves a 7 or 8 at best, but a 10? And you aren't even making the concession that you're rating it as a kids game. Obviously it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I have a hard time imaging a gamer rating Sorry! a 10 unless they just haven't played many games. There are tons of much better games out there that meet all of your criteria. Or maybe you just like to stir the pot?

Thread: Re: sorry played with dice????

gberry — 2008-03-19T19:29:44+00:00

Also the game shah-shah fits the bill as "Sorry" played with dice though Parcheesi is probably the game your friend was thinking of.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

mjmorrison — 2008-03-19T19:26:11+00:00

Seangreyson wrote:
My mother is a Social Worker who works with children (many of whom have emotional issues, to be polite). Even so, Sorry is one of the board games that she feels comfortable having the children play.

As a psychotherapist who does some work with children, I also find that Sorry works fine. The great thing about it, from a emotional/social learning perspective, is that even as you're sticking it to your opponent, the game is suggesting that you use good sportsmanship and do it in a kindly manner. It's called Sorry!, and it has "Sorry" cards, after all, not "Screw Your Neighbor" cards.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

pwn3d — 2008-03-19T19:14:22+00:00

It's the first game I remember playing. My mom was a merciless player. My brother and sister and I never had a chance.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

Seangreyson — 2008-03-19T18:53:46+00:00

This article made me go back a decide on my own rating for Sorry.

I do have to answer for some of the concerns regarding the "Take That" elements to the game. My mother is a Social Worker who works with children (many of whom have emotional issues, to be polite). Even so, Sorry is one of the board games that she feels comfortable having the children play.

Now as a "former" terrible sore loser there is something disheartening that children with severe issues are better at handling a Sorry card then I was. But I think it shows that the "Take That" element of the game is less aggressive than many other games aimed at younger players (Parcheesi springs to mind, ah the screaming fits).

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

mst3k4L — 2008-03-19T18:31:01+00:00

I had no idea that this would get so much attention. I figured it might get 3 thumbs in a month and 1 reply ever! Shows what I know. So thanks for the input and thumbs.

This arguement fails for me. I'd rather have 1 good game than 3 crap ones.
I agree, but I would much rather have 1 good cheap game than 1 good expensive game. I do have some expensive games, but those are only acquired around Chirstmas.

(Also, there are a number of better games also cheap on the wallet, or that can be had on sale cheaply).
I do also look for sales/bargains and have picked up a few games that way. I bought an almost complete copy of Fortress America on Ebay for $20, and when games-for-less went out of business, I picked up Searfarers and Knights and Cities of Catan for 1/2 price. A game's price will never be my deciding factor for if a game is good or not, but it does make a good game better in my opinion.

I liked your review. I play this with my kids and we also play with the Adult Variation. However, I have added a twist: we play with the "Tortuga" variation (a la Cartagena) where all cards are face up, except the draw pile. This way you can plan deeper strategy.

I do disagree with your conclusion on Sorry! though. It has a little too much "Take That!" in it for it to be a good family game. In games like Carcassonne, you might be able to infringe on another player. But in few games is the infringement as overt as Sorry!
Hmmmmm.....seems like an interesting variation. I will suggest it next time we play to see if we like it. As for too much "Take That!", it really depends on your family and how you play the game. To me the normal way to play seems more friendly simply because you HAVE to play the card you drew. You HAVE to Sorry! somebody. You do not have a choice in the matter. This could be the preferred way to play in some households if "Take That!" is not the way you like to play. All the members of my family have the "Take That!" mentality though, even my grandparents. So even though we are all laughing and having fun during family games, we are ALWAYS out to get each other.

As for Carcassonne, I do not know how you play, but my Carcassonne games are brutal. If you ever try to make a castle with more than two tiles, you can guarentee that someone will try to share it with you.

There are worse fates than Player Elimination (read: Settlers of Catan and Age of Steam).
Agreed. I hate it when you just cannot build anywhere in Settlers. That is why I mentioned that it is common for the player in last to make a good comeback. I was thinking of the same Settlers scenario when I originally typed that point.

One more thing that I just thought. Non-gamers that I play with seem much more open to trying a game of Sorry! with 5 cards than "some crazy new game" that they have never heard of. Although this is not always the case, it does happen quite often. I guess that is another reason why I rated it so high. I can get more non-gamers to play it!

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

marlinus64 — 2008-03-19T18:28:42+00:00

I also enjoy sorry, along with malefiz, ludo, aggravation, parcheesi, halma, senet,etc. I would include backgammon in this group as well, although some would consider that blasphemous. All these games are fun, inexpensive and with the right people and rule sets challenging (in various degrees obviously). There is a place for games like these (other than the junk bin) and should not be dismissed so quickly by many on this sight. The bottom line is that if a game provides consistent fun and challenge for the players then it is a good game. Like music, games are very subjective. You can set up a criteria for what makes a good game, but in the end you either like it or you don't. If you like like it, what does it matter if someone else does not? Find a game you like and play it. Regardless of what the game is you will be a winner.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

slide_rules4 — 2008-03-19T17:35:44+00:00

Thanks for your comments on Sorry--I have always thought that playing from a hand of cards instead of drawing one card at a time provides much more flexibility and deepens the strategy/tactics of the game. I had not thought of playing with your hand face up as suggested by another poster, but I see that this would also provide additional interest.

In the same way, the playability of a true beginner's game like Candyland could be extended (slightly) by using a hand of cards, perhaps two cards if the players are very young to three or more as the ability of the players to grasp how to maximize their moves develops.

There is a certain amount of "take that" in any game, and it may provide an opportunity for parents to discuss with their children behavior when playing a game (when is "take that" okay, and when is it not). This might make the difference between a kid who grows up to be someone that is fun to play any games with and someone who is a jerk that no one wants to play with.

Thanks again!

Best regards, David

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

joebelanger — 2008-03-19T16:51:17+00:00

mst3k4L wrote:

4) No player elimination
Nothing is more frusterating than being eliminated from a game early. Luckily, this never occurs in Sorry! and it is common for the player in last to make a good comeback.

There are worse fates than Player Elimination (read: Settlers of Catan and Age of Steam).

BTW, great review!

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

Neil Thomson — 2008-03-19T08:37:45+00:00

mst3k4L wrote:
"WHOA!", you cry, "I was with you until you said that!"

"WHOA! I was with you until you said that!"

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

out4blood — 2008-03-19T05:37:17+00:00

I liked your review. I play this with my kids and we also play with the Adult Variation. However, I have added a twist: we play with the "Tortuga" variation (a la Cartagena) where all cards are face up, except the draw pile. This way you can plan deeper strategy.

I do disagree with your conclusion on Sorry! though. It has a little too much "Take That!" in it for it to be a good family game. In games like Carcassonne, you might be able to infringe on another player. But in few games is the infringement as overt as Sorry!

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

josgeerkin — 2008-03-19T03:32:08+00:00

I like Sorry, also. I haven't played it in a long time however. It was one of my favorites when I was a kid.

Glad to see you stand up for the game if you really enjoy it. I dunno if it's 10 material but it's one of the better "games you grew up on", IMO.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

Schroinger — 2008-03-19T03:01:18+00:00

DrChek wrote:
mst3k4L wrote:
1) It is cheap
2) It is easy to learn and play
3) Short playtime
4) No player elimination
5) There is actually a good amount of strategy to the game.

I can think of much better games that meet all of these criteria, but if you truly love this game, kudos to you for standing up for it.

Me too. Check out this list, for example: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/25186

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

DrChek — 2008-03-19T02:40:03+00:00

mst3k4L wrote:
1) It is cheap
2) It is easy to learn and play
3) Short playtime
4) No player elimination
5) There is actually a good amount of strategy to the game.

I can think of much better games that meet all of these criteria, but if you truly love this game, kudos to you for standing up for it.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

Larry Welborn — 2008-03-19T01:08:02+00:00

Nice review. Although most of the people on this site would disagree with your rating, you do a good job of stating why you rate the game a 10.

And, as long as you enjoy the game, that is all that matters.

Thread: Re: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

GeneSteeler — 2008-03-19T00:08:42+00:00

1) It is cheap
I know this might seem like a silly reason, but to me, the cost of a game is important. My wife is still in school so we do not have that much extra money to spend on games. It is really hard for me to throw down $40-50 for a good game. Do not get me wrong. I am certainly not above paying that amount occasionally. But if I am going to pay that much for a game, I plan on playing it frequently. Sorry! still costs less than $20 after tax, which makes it much easier on the wallet.

This arguement fails for me. I'd rather have 1 good game than 3 crap ones. (Also, there are a number of better games also cheap on the wallet, or that can be had on sale cheaply).

I'm thumbing you for your advanced rules review though. Well Done.

Thread: Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10

mst3k4L — 2008-03-18T22:21:40+00:00

With a rating currently hovering around 4.6, it is fairly obvious that Sorry! does not get a lot of love here on the Geek. Because of this, I think it is time for me to raise my hand and say, "Yes, I rate Sorry! a 10". Why on Earth would I do this? I would be happy to explain.

1) It is cheap
I know this might seem like a silly reason, but to me, the cost of a game is important. My wife is still in school so we do not have that much extra money to spend on games. It is really hard for me to throw down $40-50 for a good game. Do not get me wrong. I am certainly not above paying that amount occasionally. But if I am going to pay that much for a game, I plan on playing it frequently. Sorry! still costs less than $20 after tax, which makes it much easier on the wallet.

2) It is easy to learn and play
*Draw a card.
*Do what it says on the card.
*Discard the card.
The simplicity of Sorry! allows for anyone to play, including people who I do not consider gamers. Since one of my main enjoyments of gaming comes from the social interaction, it is a big plus that I can play this with my grandparents, younger cousin, and non-gamer friends. I really just cannot see these people wanting to play a game of Fortress America, not matter how awesome I say the game is.

3) Short playtime
Simple games are fun if they do not last too long. Luckily, a game of Sorry! almosts always lasts less than an hour.

4) No player elimination
Nothing is more frusterating than being eliminated from a game early. Luckily, this never occurs in Sorry! and it is common for the player in last to make a good comeback.

5) There is actually a good amount of strategy to the game.
"WHOA!", you cry, "I was with you until you said that!" Let me explain. When played the typical way, Sorry! does have some strategy, just not that much. Should you wait outside your Start and try and get a Reverse 4? Should you Sorry! the guy next to your Home or the guy next to his Home? If I were to rate the game of Sorry! based on these rules, I would have to give it a 5 or a 6. It is fun with the right people under certain circumstances, but there is just too little strategy and too much luck.

This greatly changes though if you play with the Team Adult rules that come with Sorry!. The strategy raises exponentially while the extra rules do not add to the complexity of the game. (In case you do not know, these rules let you play with 5 cards in your hand. You play a card, move your pawn or your teammates pawn, and then draw a card to end your turn.) You can now save that Reverse 4 or Sorry! for when you actually need it. It also greatly reduces the annouance of never being able to get a guy out of Start. The game is often still close, but the team that plays their cards better usually ends up winning. Although the first four reasons that I rated this game so highly are all true, this variation of the rules is what what makes the game so fantastic. It provides enough strategy so a better team will usually win, but enough luck/chaos to keep things interesting. Plus, it can be played in teams or individually to mix it up.

Currently Sorry! and Carcassonne are the only 2 games I have rated as a 10 and both for the same reasons. They are simple, short games that have a hidden level of depth to them. Although many people have discovered that hidden depth in Carcassone, few here on the Geek seem to have found it yet for Sorry!. Sorry! is a fantastic game that really deserves a bit more love here on the Geek. Try it with the Adult Team rules. Although I can not promise that you will think of it as a 10, you will see for yourself how it is very underrated.

Editted for a typo

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Howitzer_120mm — 2008-03-05T23:35:00+00:00

My home-made custom cards

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Howitzer_120mm — 2008-03-02T03:46:53+00:00

My game of Sorry! with handmade board, printed cards and dyed rocks for pieces

Thread: Re: Sorry! plus Uno cards? Whoa....

out4blood — 2008-02-29T05:47:44+00:00

Interesting, but I probably won't try it. Nice spin to it, though.

We're satisfied with our "Tortuga" version of the adult game: 5 card open hand. If you can't play a card, then you can exchange any number of cards.

Thread: Sorry! plus Uno cards? Whoa....

mst3k4L — 2008-02-28T15:39:37+00:00

By now I am sure that all of you know about Adult Team Sorry!. If not, I will briefly explain it below. (This variation can actually be found with the original rules that come with the game.)

Adult Team Sorry! Rules:
1) 2 Teams - Blue & Green vs. Yellow & Red
2) 5 cards in your hand - play one then draw one
3) start with one man outside of start
4) If you cannot play on your turn, discard a card and draw a new one. Your turn is over.
5) If you have a card that can be played on your turn, you MUST play it.

After playing this version frequently, my friends and I decided to mix it up even more and introduced Uno cards into or Sorry! game. All we did was add 4 Draw Twos, 4 Skips, 3 Reverses, and 2 Draw 4 Wilds to the Sorry! cards. You would draw and play them like you would normal Sorry! cards. Here is what the cards do:

Draw Two - Play this card with two numbered cards and combine the distance total of the two cards into one move. Example: Draw Two + 5 + 12 = 17 spaces! However, the special ability of the cards is negated. Examples: Draw Two + 7 + 8 = 15 spaces, but you cannot break the 15 spaces between two pieces; Draw Two + 2 + 5 = 7 spaces, but you do not get a free turn and you do not get to pull a guy out of home. It should be noted that we do not consider the backwards 4 or the backwards 1 using the 10 card special abilities. We instead think of it as a negative/backwards distance. So playing a Draw Two and a 4 with any other number subtracts 4 from the other number. Examples: Draw Two + 4 + 8 = Ahead 4 spaces; Draw Two + (backwards 1 using the 10 card) + 7 = Ahead 6 spaces.

Skip - This card can be played in two ways. You can either play this card after any numbered or Sorry! card to skip the next player's turn, or you can simply play this card by itself to skip the next player's turn. A player cannot play this card if he/she has already played a 2 this turn.

Reverse - Can reverse the direction of any numbered card. However, you cannot use this card to cross the line between the space immediately outside of START and the space behind it (the space between START and Safety Zone). Example: If you are two spaces in front of the space outside of START, you cannot use a Reverse + 3 and travel back three spaces because you will cross the line between the space immediately outside of START and the space between START and Safety Zone.

Draw 4 Wild - Acts as a double Sorry! Play this card like you would a normal Sorry! card. The two opponets' pieces removed from the board to not have to match in color, and the two pieces added onto the board to not have to match in color. If only one opponent's piece can be removed from the board, this card can still be played and acts like a normal Sorry! card.

There are two other rules that we play with:
1) Uno cards usually cannot be combined on a player's turn. The only exception to this is that two Reverses can cancel each other out.
2) If you cannot play on your turn, discard a card and draw a new one. Your turn is over. However, if you cannot play on your next turn either, you can discard two cards and draw two cards. Your turn is again over. Discard two cards and draw two cards for every turn afterwards when you cannot play. Once you start to play again, the number of cards you can discard and draw is reset to one, but can again increase to two if you cannot play for multiple turns.

It might sound complicated, but it really is not too bad once you start playing. My non-gamer friends quickly adapted to the rules and had a good time playing it. The extra Uno cards generally coorelate to their function in the game and only have a few restrictions to how they cannot be played. These restrictions are there to make sure the Uno cards are not too overpowering. You can remove these restrictions on the Uno cards if you would like, but you will quickly see how overpowering and confusing these cards can become.

Hope you like!

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tommynomad — 2008-02-02T04:07:57+00:00

Showing one side of the PBs wooden multibox

Thread: Re: Why Sorry! isn't completely worthless.

HerrCannon — 2008-01-26T19:45:17+00:00

Don't apologize. Sorry! is a great game. Especially when you play it with Icehouse pyramids or Fluxx cards. Or Both!

Thread: Team Play

HerrCannon — 2008-01-26T19:39:40+00:00

Has anybody tried the team play variant of this game?

RED and YELLOW are always partners against GREEN and BLUE.

The cards you draw can be used to move your own pawns or your partner's pawns. The pawns remain the color they are, even if they are moved by someone else. (i.e. Green pawns cannnot enter the blue safety zone or slide on green slides, even when Blue is moving them.) A 7 may be split bewteen any of your side's eight pawns. SORRY! cards must be used. If needed, you may bump your own or your partner's pawn back to Start.

The game is won by the side that gets all eight of its pawns to their respective HOMES.

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Aarontu — 2007-11-07T21:55:33+00:00

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Genre_Fad — 2007-06-09T10:13:04+00:00

Ancient Cards - in the days before CARD PROTECTORS