Game: I Don't Know, What Do You Want To Play?

Thread: Re: News?

capt yid — 2008-10-15T18:01:19+00:00

I am anxious also to see my collection in the new card format (from 2007-04-08)!

Thread: News?

kowalskie — 2008-10-15T13:47:05+00:00

Any news on this..?

I'm begining to back up!!!

cheers

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

capt yid — 2008-09-25T17:33:19+00:00

Can't wait!
As of today (9/25/08), still
downloads only the 3 generic cards.
Good luck!

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

The Lazy Literati — 2008-09-19T15:18:46+00:00

I second the "best with x players" feature!

thanks again - this is such a useful tool it should be a feature of BGG!

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

1000rpm — 2008-09-05T12:46:13+00:00

Good work as always.
Please, please, please spoil us with the addition of the "Best With x players" and "Recommended with x,y players" in some format. That would be so awesome to have on these cards!

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

Bixby — 2008-08-29T17:10:56+00:00

Haze01 wrote:
It's nice that you're still working on this and being communicative. Even though I'm new to BGG, I like the idea of these cards and I'm glad that you'll not only be fixing the bugs caused by BGG's changes, but will be adding features and usability.

x Eleventy Million.

Big kudos to you.

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

Haze01 — 2008-08-28T09:47:41+00:00

It's nice that you're still working on this and being communicative. Even though I'm new to BGG, I like the idea of these cards and I'm glad that you'll not only be fixing the bugs caused by BGG's changes, but will be adding features and usability.

I left my thoughts on your second draft of the new card template in the comments for that picture. I just wanted to bring some attention to that in case users aren't notified of comments on pictures, and I also wanted to ask: as you introduce new card templates now and in the future, will people still be able to use your site to make new cards in the older style(s)? Ooh, alternate or modifyable templates would be a cool feature.

Whatever you add to it, I look forward to seeing the new version!

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

Liumas — 2008-08-22T19:41:56+00:00

nosissies wrote:
There will be a few other features as well, but I don't want to spoil it for y'all just yet.
Just spoil us on the other side - that will be great.

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

nosissies — 2008-08-22T18:26:34+00:00

Still slowly banging away at this. There were pretty widespread changes to the BGG Collection XMLAPI. the good news is that we'll see a few other features out the other end.

The changes to the XML require me to implement filtering so that you only get the games you actually own, rather than all the games you've flagged as fortrade, want, wanttoplay etc etc, so while I'm at it I'm adding in filtering on other tags etc, and the ability to just explicitly pick a few games.

There will be a few other features as well, but I don't want to spoil it for y'all just yet.

peace,
Tom

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

nosissies — 2008-08-11T03:04:20+00:00

Howitzer_120mm wrote:
Would some GG help?
Only if I can use it to time travel or otherwise buy time. Regardless, I appreciate the sentiment.

peace,
Tom

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

Howitzer_120mm — 2008-08-11T00:39:02+00:00

Just wanted to say, I am also interested in this tool being fixed. I was just ready to get my whole collection on a pdf. Would some GG help?

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

Liumas — 2008-08-09T07:00:30+00:00

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

nosissies — 2008-08-08T14:40:30+00:00

Things are still moving slowly. The previously listed bug seems to have been resolved, though there still seem to be some inconsistencies. There is still some information that isn't being communicated. Sorry to have to post another disappointing status.

peace,
Tom

Heres the latest bug... (I'm putting these here as much for my recordkeeping as for your curiosity)
https://boardgamegeek.fogbugz.com/default.asp?pg=pgPublicVie...

looks like this is fine, there was just some new stuff in the xml that wasn't there before... onward and upward.

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

kdean1 — 2008-08-07T02:49:10+00:00

Tom,
Thanks for keeping us informed of your ~~progress~~ position. We look forward to things returning to normal.

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

nosissies — 2008-08-01T19:16:18+00:00

FYI,
BGG's XML output still hasn't stabilized which continues to slow the forthcoming update/repair/reconstitution/whatever you want to call it.
peace,
Tom

ps. In particular, the image data has been sort of hosed per the bug report I submitted here:
https://boardgamegeek.fogbugz.com/default.asp?55_b3pi712o

Thread: Re: Errors & Maintenance

Liumas — 2008-07-18T07:20:07+00:00

I was able to make a stable download on July 16.

I make a download every time I find 6 games I haven't made cards for (6 per page).

...have 1 in the queue currently, and can wait until I find 5 others...

Thread: Errors & Maintenance

nosissies — 2008-07-17T15:58:51+00:00

All,
My apologies for not being here to share in your recent pain. It turns out that this tool is totally dependent on the stable performance of BGG itself. As such, most of the errors you have experienced recently have been due to errors at BGG.

The problems happening at this moment are due to changes at the geek as well. This most recent change has drastically altered the format of the file used to convey information between BGG and my card generation software.

I don't have an estimate yet as to when things will be working again. I appreciate your patience.

peace,
Tom

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

nexttothemoon — 2008-07-01T02:09:39+00:00

Not working for me today. Looked kinda fun too.

Thread: Re: Graphics/Art/Gold

Howitzer_120mm — 2008-06-19T03:03:25+00:00

So, when is "soon"? Can I still submit stuff?

Thread: Re: Question with Current Card Layout

Liumas — 2008-05-30T23:44:43+00:00

'Game Weight'

Thread: Question with Current Card Layout

JYoder — 2008-05-30T17:48:00+00:00

Along the bottom right of the generated cards, what are the 7 marks that are partially filled in stand for? Complexity? Setup time?

Thread: Open Source?

feydjm — 2008-05-30T03:51:16+00:00

Good evening,

I was wondering, since this was always a free product anyway, is there any chance of this becoming open source that the community could build and grow? I completely understand the rigors of jobs, family, and other life requirements, and am not really surprised that such a tool requires more time than may be available at times.

I think it'd be a shame if this product ended in it's current state. There is so much potential that needs to be developed.

Anyway, my $.02.
Justin

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

OglBrutus — 2008-03-17T22:28:03+00:00

Give it another try... I was getting this error for the last few days and tried again last night. It worked fine. I don't think I did anything different, so something must have gotten fixed somewhere else ^_^.

Good luck!

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

CandaceW — 2008-03-14T21:33:38+00:00

Tried it today, it's generating "error, no file" again.

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Solamar — 2008-02-28T00:54:01+00:00

Many thanks to Tom for getting this working again! It is great to have an updated list!

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Liumas — 2008-02-25T18:23:57+00:00

Yes!

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Figgy — 2008-02-25T16:46:29+00:00

Hurray! It's working again.

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Solamar — 2008-02-21T16:42:43+00:00

Tom,

It is good to see you are looking at it!

One request: Could you put a version history on the page so that we know if the tool has been changed and what changed? That way we can see if we need to regenerate our files.

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

nosissies — 2008-02-21T16:05:22+00:00

Thanks for your confidence Chris.

This is indeed a BGG problem. Unfortunatly the tool doesn't give you any direct indication of that. For future reference, if you see people complaining about the XMLAPI, then the tool is probably impacted as it makes heavy use of this very handy, geek provided, utility.

Here's the issue...
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/2099734

Thanks for your patience. And sorry Sterling, I'm not at a point where I can give you good answers yet.

peace,
Tom

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Figgy — 2008-02-19T22:47:46+00:00

Sorry, I should have been more clear.
Yes, it is the error message I get when I go to the link and request a file of my game collection. I had used it successfully just a few weeks ago with no problem. Since my collection is very large (400+) I use this dummy account to add any new games I acquire and then generate the cards. It is really the best way I've found to keep track of my games, so I hope it continues to operate in the future!
It is a fabulous tool and I really appreciate that it was created and offered to us all to use...I must send the author more GG!!

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Liumas — 2008-02-19T19:22:22+00:00

The recent changes in BGG caused the files to be corrupted. They broke *immediately* on BGG being changed a week or two ago.

I sent Tom a message, and he fixed it ASAP!!!

Unfortunately it is broken again. I assume it is because BGG has yet to stabilize, but I don't really know.

Patience! Judging by his track record, Tom will fix this fantastic useful tool.

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Solamar — 2008-02-19T18:52:35+00:00

Yep, dead. It generates, then just has "error: no file". Sigh. I think I would like to get an update even without the number of players additions.

If this ever starts working again, someone shoot me a geekmail.

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

Solamar — 2008-02-19T17:04:52+00:00

I suspect that he is talking about the external link to generate the files.

All in all, I suspect that this game is dead.

- No updates to the many requests

- No indication of when the tool is updated or version history so people know when they can regenerate cards

- No response when I requested that my old file be removed

- No indication that the added changes (like recommended number of players) will ever be added.

I do not believe the site has been changed in at least a year. I have not tried it lately (since I was waiting for updates), so I do not know if it even works.

Thread: Re: Error, no file?

tool — 2008-02-19T15:23:57+00:00

What kind of request are you submitting?

Thread: Error, no file?

Figgy — 2008-02-19T13:52:50+00:00

Why am I getting "Error, no file" when I submit my request?

Thread: Re: Updates?

Solamar — 2007-11-22T02:25:29+00:00

I am beginning to wonder if this will ever be updated again. I was hoping to see the recommended number of players implemented.

Thread: Re: Does it really work?

scand1sk — 2007-11-19T14:41:03+00:00

It would really be interesting to design rules that approximate any social choice algorithm with good properties.

The first that comes to my mind is :

Draw cards one by one. For each drawn card, people vote whether they want to play that game or not (for example each player take one pawn in their hand if they want to play the game, and all players reveal simultaneously whether they have a pawn in hand or not). You can also just use a show of hands.

On the first round, put the just voted game on the "play pile" and note how much positive votes the game had by putting a dice next to the play pile, whose face shows the number of positive votes.

On subsequent rounds, three cases may happen :
* current game has more positive votes than shown on the dice. Discard all cards in play pile, put the current game on a new play pile and update the dice.
* current game has as much positive votes as shown on the dice. Put the card on the pile.
* current game has less positive votes than shown on the dice. Discard the card.

When all cards have been voted, randomly pick a game in the play pile and play it.

This requires as much votes as cards, which can be a little bit long. The deck then needs to be pre-filtered. I like the idea of a "first round" as shown in the initial post of this thread. You can also store the cards sorted, and put just played games in the bottom of the pile, and only pick the n (20 ?) first cards which show compatible number of players and time schedule.

Thread: Re: Updates?

Actorios — 2007-11-18T11:27:50+00:00

I've recently discovered the concept and tool and really like it. I'm looking forward to seeing the new template implemented !

Thread: Updates?

feydjm — 2007-10-09T16:40:04+00:00

any update on updates? So many good suggestions over the last few months, were any of them implemented?

Thread: Re: Tip for Managing Large Game Collections

pmboos — 2007-10-05T19:38:09+00:00

Also, question - did this great service (I Don't Know, What Do You Want To Play?) get hooked to a printing service anywhere?

Paul

PS I love the template idea...

Thread: Re: Tip for Managing Large Game Collections

pmboos — 2007-10-05T15:10:44+00:00

nosissies wrote:
White Stone wrote:
Sooo........I go there, I follow the instructions, I get my download.....and it contains one card, with Monopoly on it. Which I don't even own. What's going wrong here?

I was wondering how long it would be until someone noticed that. That's in there as part of the original game design, the intent is the player who is dealt that card must discard it to start the game.

For those of you keeping score at home, this makes potentially 4 cards added to your collection:
1- for the "I Don't know, what do you want to play?" game itself, in case someone doesn't like the options that have shown up in the play pile this gives a chance that the next game selected will be IDKWDYWTP
2- the rules for IDKWDYWTP
3- A "Thanks to BGG" card
4- Monopoly as described above.

peace,
Tom

I'm finally reading this forum in detail - shouldn't that be The Ungame as the discard?

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ArtEmiSa64 — 2007-08-18T18:09:16+00:00

My collection organized in business cards folders by maximum number of players

Thread: Re: Any way to alphabetize this?

lordunborn — 2007-08-09T17:25:39+00:00

It is the order in which you added the games to your collection. It just adds to the XML file when you add it to your collection.

Thread: Re: Recommended Avery/Avery-compatible stock?

Joe Casadonte — 2007-08-06T15:38:59+00:00

The problem with something like that, though, is that in order to print N-up, I have to print the full pages output from the program and use the printer driver to do the N-up piece. The card stock, therefor, has to go fully to the edges (i.e. no borders) because Acrobat, AFAIK, doesn't let me print N full pages out on a pre-defined Avery form. If it does, I would love to know how to do it!

Thread: Re: Recommended Avery/Avery-compatible stock?

Puquak — 2007-08-05T21:41:33+00:00

Their badge packs are 6 up:

http://www.namebadgeproductions.com/$spindb.query.listall2.n...

5384NB - 4'' x 3'' Avery Type Perforated Paper, 4'' x 3'' badges set 6 up on a 8 1/2'' x 11'' card stock.

Thread: Re: Opinions requested for new template.

kevinb9n — 2007-07-16T03:52:08+00:00

mr.codepoet wrote:
Thanks for all the kind words, everyone. I still have to win one of the spots in the contest. And to do that, I still have to create a final image and actually enter said contest.

Sooooooo, how's it goin with that? :-)

We wants it, we wants it!

Thread: Recommended Avery/Avery-compatible stock?

Joe Casadonte — 2007-07-12T17:29:04+00:00

Can anyone recommend a particular Avery/Avery-compatible stock to use for printing N-up? I found 5.5 x 4.25 cards (4-up) but I was hoping for something a little smaller....

Thread: Re: Any way to alphabetize this?

Joe Casadonte — 2007-07-12T03:27:58+00:00

nosissies wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what are you printing on the backs?

Just more of the PDF. Printing double-sided cuts the # of cards used in half, so I'm all for it.

And may I just add that, alphabetized or not, this thing is awesome! Thanks!

Thread: Re: Any way to alphabetize this?

nosissies — 2007-07-12T03:06:44+00:00

At the moment, there isn't any particular order. Well, that's not true, it's the order that the geek gives them to me. If you go to this link... http://www.boardgamegeek.com/xmlapi/collection/nosissies with your id instead of mine you'll see the order.

I'll add alphabetization to the list of feature requests.

Just out of curiosity, what are you printing on the backs?

peace,
Tom

Thread: Any way to alphabetize this?

Joe Casadonte — 2007-07-11T23:09:57+00:00

I'd like to print out my cards double-sided, but they would need to be alphabetized in order to make it worth doing. Is there any rhyme or reason to how the cards are sorted in the PDF? Thanks!

Thread: Re: Colored ovals?

Solamar — 2007-07-06T20:30:44+00:00

Thanks. I will post there.

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santac — 2007-04-28T13:00:21+00:00

Too much body text is cut of at the end.

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mr.codepoet — 2007-04-08T22:26:20+00:00

Second draft of new template

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mr.codepoet — 2007-04-06T22:40:00+00:00

Rough draft of new card template; opinions requested.

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Grubsnatcher — 2007-03-29T18:27:52+00:00

The cards outside are those that cannot fit into the box neatly.

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Grubsnatcher — 2007-03-29T18:22:14+00:00

My Card Box.

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SPNSTest — 2007-03-14T21:09:35+00:00

How do you sort your hand?

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jostrand — 2007-03-12T15:10:11+00:00

Recursive image to demonstrate the danger of playing multiple times!

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Ceryon — 2007-03-10T14:11:33+00:00

3 cards - with both: bgg-rating and my votes

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Ceryon — 2007-03-10T14:10:20+00:00

3 cards