Game: Dash-in Dungeons

Thread: Re: $112.45 - Really??

mogwai66 — 2008-09-21T13:25:47+00:00

Greetings Rod,

The local counter price for Dash-in Dungeons is AUD $79.75 (or AUD $72.50 + Australian Sales Tax/GST). That's what I sell it at conventions for..

Shipping from Australia to anywhere in the world is a real killer with the weight of the game at 1.4kg. It's what makes it pricey for me to ship to you guys.! :-(

If you're ever in Oz, feel free to look me up.. ;-)

Else, I'll post whenever I'm able to set up my first trade-stand at a US or European convention.

Cheers,
Mark :-)

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mogwai66 — 2008-07-27T06:55:00+00:00

Darth finds my Dealing 'disturbing'...

Thread: Re: $112.45 - Really??

gmonk — 2008-07-27T06:44:27+00:00

Just out of curiousity, what is the 'counter' price?

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mogwai66 — 2008-07-27T06:22:50+00:00

DiD - 4 player setup on a small card table

Thread: Re: $112.45 - Really??

mogwai66 — 2008-06-16T12:12:18+00:00

Hi cold-fuzion,

Thanks for your feedback.. Yep, I realise I am probably losing OS sales over the price.

The two major components of the price are the production and the shipping...

For quality-control purposes, the first run of the game was made locally here in Australia, and the cost was very-high for a small run. If I manufactured in China I could do better, but I'd have to make a large run. Unfortunately, I'm a small-press publisher with no serious $.

The game weighs-in at around 1.4kg and that costs me dearly to ship it via airmail. I can't get a volume discount (from say FedEx etc), as I don't yet ship large volumes, and I don't have a distributor in the US, that I could send stock to by sea (cheaper freight charges).

So, unfortunately, until the first run is sold and/or I strike a deal with a partner/distributor in the US or Europe, the price will remain high..

If you know anyone coming to GenCon Oz next month, you could ask them to pick you up a copy from me directly at the counter-price. :-)

I'll be exhibiting at booth 54 at Gen Con Australia.

If you know of anyone who would be interested in talking to me about distribution, please let me know...?

Cheers,
mogwai66

Thread: Re: $112.45 - Really??

cold_fuzion — 2008-06-11T02:39:52+00:00

Just to clarify a bit, I don't mean my last post as a bash. I just thought the publisher might want to know why he's not getting more sales. I realize you're getting 491 cards, but the price is still pretty steep. The game itself looks fun and I really do wish the publisher all the best of luck.

Thread: $112.45 - Really??

cold_fuzion — 2008-06-10T20:19:56+00:00

I was doing some searching for light dungeon craw games and I found this one. I was curious why there was only one review for the game, but thought it looked like fun and checked out the web site. $112.45 is what they want.

That is a crazy amount of money for a box of cards and I just can't justify it. So I'll be passing on Dash-in Dungeons, even if it looks like fun.

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

Friendless — 2008-02-18T05:07:55+00:00

Teamski wrote:
Either that or try to get the game published in the US or Europe.

Or Mark makes friends who travel overseas often :-).

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mogwai66 — 2008-02-02T13:15:03+00:00

Dash-in Dungeons Equipment

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

mogwai66 — 2007-12-01T10:58:41+00:00

> Either that or try to get the game published in the US or Europe.
> -Ski

Yep - know ye of anyone who might be interested in assisting me..?

Cheers,
Mark

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

Teamski — 2007-11-30T08:34:46+00:00

Either that or try to get the game published in the US or Europe.

-Ski

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

paulidale — 2007-11-29T20:19:10+00:00

Teamski wrote:
Looks like a great game, but man, $97US shipped? Ouch!

Sadly, this kind of price isn't exceptional over here. We pay this much (or usually more) for many many imported games

You could also wait for our dollar to halve its value like a few years back...

- Pauli

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

Teamski — 2007-11-29T18:45:19+00:00

Looks like a great game, but man, $97US shipped? Ouch!

-Ski

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

Larry Welborn — 2007-11-28T15:26:47+00:00

Well, that does sound somewhat better. I just remember the first version of Blue v. Gray had the rules on cards, and it was a major pain. A rule book is so much preferable.

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

paulidale — 2007-11-28T00:47:26+00:00

Larry Welborn wrote:
[The rules are on 50 cards?!?!?! Ugh.

It really isn't as bad as all that. The player's summary covers three cards and the dealer's eight I think.

Yes a printed booklet would have been better but the cards are quite manageable and I've never needed to reference them during a game and very much doubt I ever will. The rules are simple and there are a decent number of examples included. In fact, I haven't even referenced the dealer's summary cards during a game. The player's summary cards have been used.

If you look at the demo game, the bulk of the rules are presented there in a more traditional fashion.

- Pauli

Thread: Re: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

Larry Welborn — 2007-11-28T00:34:07+00:00

paulidale wrote:

The little box contains everything you'll need to play. No pencils, paper or dice required. It simply contains lots of cards. And I mean lots. Almost 500. These include about fifty containing the rules

- Pauli

The rules are on 50 cards?!?!?! Ugh.

Thread: Dash in Dungeon - a light fantasy dungeon crawl

paulidale — 2007-11-27T21:13:38+00:00

Dash in Dungeons (DiD from now on) follows the stereotypical party of adventures crawling through a dungeon killing monsters, avoiding traps and collecting treasure. Don't let that put you off, the game is a lot of fun.

I'll also mention that I know the game's designer, however I didn't know he was producing a game until a mutual friend informed me it was released.

The little box contains everything you'll need to play. No pencils, paper or dice required. It simply contains lots of cards. And I mean lots. Almost 500. These include about fifty containing the rules, another dozen quick reference cards, three for each of the five player classes, a pile of injury cards, magic items, weapons, armour, monsters, traps, rooms, gold and even six piles for the included adventures. The cards are nicely produced in full colour and well presented. Most of the artwork is good. The cards can be a bit text rich (i.e. too many lines on a card) but most don't need to be read fully during play.

One of the players is the Dealer (GM) who reads through the module and determines the actions of the monsters and the results for the players. The remainder of the players take the role of a group of stalwart adventurers. There are five character classes available: Fighter, Dwarf, Wizard, Missionary and Streetman. The latter two correspond with cleric and rogue/thief respectively. the Dwarf is a second but differently skilled fighter. Each player starts with a number of cards that represent them, their items and equipment and skills. Magic spells are also represented by cards and in this case, the player receives a number equal to the number of times they can use that particular spell (so they hand in one card per attempted casting to the Dealer). Each spell has multiple casting options which increase flexibility. When a character finishes a dungeon, they level up and this entails a simple replacement of their character card with the same class at the new level and the addition of any new skill/spell cards. The base game covers level 1, 2 and 3.

DiD follows a role playing theme where by the Dealer describes what the players see/sense and the players say what they are going to do etc. The six sample adventures range from a three card introductory adventure (which is included as part of the demo set available on the DiD web site: http://www.dashindungeons.com/). The other adventures are significantly more substantial, the longest being spread over 15 cards. From those that I've played and run so far, the adventures seem relatively well balanced and a heap of fun for adults and children alike (our three children are aged 8 through 11 and all love the game).

The main task resolution method is to use a deck of thirty four fate cards. These are numbered 1 through 6 plus success and failure in varying quantities. The dealer decides on a task difficulty and the player draws a number of cards up to a maximum of their skill level until either they succeed or a failure card is drawn. If they didn't make the target number for the task difficulty or a failure card was drawn, they fail. Combat is handled using the same deck with the defender making a draw for the attacker's task difficulty. This method works well and is easy to understand although reshuffling does interrupt play a little.

A single game of DiD takes of the order of an hour to maybe an hour and a half. Each of the sample adventures is quick and easy to run as dealer, although the dealer does need a bit of table space to manage the dozen or so piles of cards.

All in all a good light and fun dungeon crawl game. We've played a couple of spontaneous games on an otherwise slow weekend afternoon/evening which bodes well.

- Pauli

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mogwai66 — 2007-11-27T12:44:23+00:00

Back of Box

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mogwai66 — 2007-11-27T12:41:55+00:00

Inside the box

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mogwai66 — 2007-11-27T12:38:46+00:00

Box Front

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mogwai66 — 2007-11-27T12:35:46+00:00

Player reference cards

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mogwai66 — 2007-11-27T12:29:07+00:00

A game in progress

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mogwai66 — 2007-11-27T12:24:11+00:00

Wizard character card

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mogwai66 — 2007-11-27T12:22:39+00:00

Dwarf card back, skill & equipment cards