Game: Bang!

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

snoweel — 2008-10-06T14:27:53+00:00

Alkan wrote:
It is not yet decided so far if there will be italian text on the cards: that depends largely on the local partners' (distributors/publishers) preferences.
As for the Bullet, I think the next release of it will sport the 4th edition cards and rules -- even if some of the 4th edition stuff cannot fit into the Bullet box and therefore will be left out.

I for one would like to lose the Italian, just so there would be room to include the actual card text instead of having to refer to the rulebook all the time. I would love to introduce this game to non-gamer friends but they would go nuts if I tried to make them look up a bunch of different cards in a book. This could be much more accessible than it is.

Clay

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

shoptroll — 2008-10-06T13:47:05+00:00

I like the look of the mats, but if The Bullet edition reprint is getting 4th Ed. cards as well, I don't see a need for me to purchase this.

It would be really cool if DaVinci released the mats as a separate product for those of us who don't want to buy a new edition of the game just for them.

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

Castef — 2008-10-02T16:22:51+00:00

shoptroll wrote:
I can only guess that if he's giving us teases, DaVinci should be giving out some information on their website pretty soon. They did say something about a late September re-release...

daVinci sent us (Deck & Board) for preview two of the new player mats from the 4th Edition of Bang.

You can look at them here and here.

Quite nice, although I don't know how much will they be useful in a Bang! game...

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NeonBlue — 2008-09-27T19:10:52+00:00

Open box with front, some cards and the rules in Dutch (yes, they exist )

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KANDANG — 2008-09-23T02:42:54+00:00

Enjoying a game of Bang!

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

shoptroll — 2008-09-18T01:18:36+00:00

I can only guess that if he's giving us teases, DaVinci should be giving out some information on their website pretty soon. They did say something about a late September re-release...

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

Rainbow Snake — 2008-09-17T23:44:22+00:00

Alkan wrote:
even if some of the 4th edition stuff cannot fit into the Bullet box and therefore will be left out.

Cannot fit??? ... oooh ... you're good at teasing us with tiny scraps of information ... I'm guessing there's no site that gives details or a pre-release review ... I can't find any.

I'm guessing there's probably just different symbols on the same cards and a larger quantity of the same cards, but dammit, I just wanna know!!!

(BTW Everyone remember Friday 19th September is International "Talk Like A Pirate" Day!!! Arrrrrrr! )

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

shoptroll — 2008-09-17T13:36:48+00:00

Alkan wrote:
As for the Bullet, I think the next release of it will sport the 4th edition cards and rules -- even if some of the 4th edition stuff cannot fit into the Bullet box and therefore will be left out.

Intriguing. I'm looking forward to seeing what you mean by this. Next month is going to be awesome: new edition of Bang! and Race for the Galaxy expansion!

I too will miss the Italian text if Alliance opts to drop it when Bang goes to print over here.

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

Alkan — 2008-09-17T09:37:34+00:00

It is not yet decided so far if there will be italian text on the cards: that depends largely on the local partners' (distributors/publishers) preferences.
As for the Bullet, I think the next release of it will sport the 4th edition cards and rules -- even if some of the 4th edition stuff cannot fit into the Bullet box and therefore will be left out.

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

shoptroll — 2008-09-16T15:08:29+00:00

Alkan wrote:
I can tell you that the new boxed set will include, among other things, revised graphics, slightly revised cards and some nice stuff which will be very useful for beginners of the game.

Will this edition be used in the re-release for The Bullet? Or are we going to have to buy Bullet and then upgrade?

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

Rainbow Snake — 2008-09-15T23:24:42+00:00

I hope there are still Italian words on the cards! That was always part of the fun and flavour for me. I was sad when Bang! The Bullet! came out none of the local shops only seemed to have the Italian cards.

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

Alkan — 2008-09-15T22:07:12+00:00

I can tell you that the new boxed set will include, among other things, revised graphics, slightly revised cards and some nice stuff which will be very useful for beginners of the game.

Thread: Re: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

Rainbow Snake — 2008-09-08T05:35:52+00:00

Oooh! I wonder what's changed?

I will not buy the 4th edition ... will not ... eerk ... if it's got new stuff I probably will ...

Thread: Bang 4th Edition listed on Thoughthammer for pre-order

LordBobbio — 2008-09-08T03:44:04+00:00

"Pre-Order this new game.

Publisher's estimated release date: 2008.

Publisher's description coming soon"

Bang! 4th Edition is currently (Sept. 07, 2008) listed on Thoughthammer.com for pre-orders. So it looks like it won't be OOP for long.

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

FlyingArrow — 2008-09-04T20:09:18+00:00

The Bullet might be nice to have if it weren't, well, shaped like a bullet.

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

shoptroll — 2008-08-30T15:10:47+00:00

Just saw this as well. Very good news

I'm hoping with the Bullet reprint being so close to the 4th edition release that they'll use 4th ed. in The Bullet, but I don't get the feeling this will be the case. Oh well, I really only need The Bullet so I can finally get an English version of High Noon (and professionally printed Claus the Saint, Handcuffs, and New Identity).

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

Gryfalia — 2008-08-30T14:22:43+00:00

Yesterday they announced:

daVinci Games, Alliance Game Distributors and Diamond Comic Distributors are proud to announce that they are teaming up to bring the critically acclaimed and fan-beloved BANG! game back to retailers in North America. As part of this agreement, Alliance will be deputized to serve as the exclusive distributor to USA, Australia and New Zealand and as non-exclusive distributor to Canada and Mexico.

BANG! recreates the old-fashioned spaghetti western shoot-out, each player receiving a random character card and a secret role in the game. The Outlaws hunt the Sheriff. The Sheriff hunts the Outlaws. The Renegade plots secretly, ready to take one side or the other. Bullets fly.

"BANG! became an instant classic on its release, and it appeals to a wide audience," said Mike Webb, VP of Marketing and Customer Service for Alliance. "We are delighted to have the opportunity to bring it back to the American audience!"

"We are proud to be back on the U.S. market and other important world markets in partnership with Alliance." said Roberto Corbelli, CEO of daVinci. "We are sure that the quality of our products, combined with the ability, experience and presence of Alliance on the markets of reference, are the winning factors to deliver more and more value to our customers. Moreover new games are in sight, first of all an entirely renewed BANG!. Stay tuned !"

Wagon Trains have set out from daVinci chock full of product. We expect to have Bang! The Bullet in late September, Bang! 4th Edition and a new edition of Dodge City late in the holiday season!

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

shoptroll — 2008-08-25T18:25:03+00:00

I got the same reply this morning:

Thank you for you interest in our games.

I apologize for the problem you are facing with the availability of BANG!.
We are redefining our distribution agreements in US: our games will be
normally and widely distributed again in shops starting from October. You
will find a new edition of BANG! with lots of improvements: we hope you will
appreciate it.

We'll announce the new distribution agreement through our web site soon
(http://www.davincigames.com), so keep in touch.

Thread: Re: Can a Beer really save you?

unixrevolution — 2008-08-25T16:31:16+00:00

The title of the thread made me think it was an episode of MythBusters...

Adam: So, the myth here is if you are shot, drinking a beer will save your life.

Jamie: Oh, i've seen that in spaghetti westerns.

Adam: Right. So what we need to do is create a test rig with a gun and some beer, and probably ballistics gel...To the bomb range!

Thread: 3rd edition improvements?

Xaykev — 2008-08-25T14:45:28+00:00

What are the changes they plan to do regarding the 3rd edition?
By the way, is that a 3rd edition of the Bullet or the regular deck?

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

edbob411 — 2008-08-25T12:51:13+00:00

Here is the email they sent me on Bang!:

We are redefining our distribution agreements in US: our games will be
normally and widely distributed again in shops starting from October.
You
will find a new edition of BANG! with lots of improvements: we hope you
will
appreciate it.

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

shoptroll — 2008-08-24T01:56:48+00:00

Thank you for the update! That certainly clarifies the situation

Thread: Re: Can a Beer really save you?

frankinla — 2008-08-23T19:42:39+00:00

He's flat-lining! We need more beer, stat!!!

Bang! is great.

Thread: Re: Can a Beer really save you?

otrex — 2008-08-23T18:47:33+00:00

I can't tell you how many times an ice cold beer has saved me!

Thread: Re: Can a Beer really save you?

FlyingArrow — 2008-08-23T18:42:30+00:00

Yes.

Thread: Can a Beer really save you?

Cinnibar — 2008-08-23T18:17:16+00:00

If I Bang! my opponent his last life point, and there are more than two players, can he play a Beer to save himself?

This refers to the wording that you can play a Beer out of turn if you are not 'simply shot'.

Thread: Re: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

Alkan — 2008-08-23T14:31:13+00:00

The rules also say that when a player is killed, all of his cards are immediately discarded. So as soon as a player dies, he discards all the cards in his hand and in front of him -- including Dynamite.

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

AlexYeager — 2008-08-22T05:06:13+00:00

We have a new official line on BANG!. The following should be considered to supercede the information provided by Kim (which she believed accurate at the time).

A new licensing agreement for BANG! has been submitted by Mayfair Games to da Vinci. No final agreement has been reached, and until a new licensing agreement is in place, no future edition of BANG! will be produced by Mayfair.

Not quite as final as our original statement, but in the short term, it's functionally identical. And, at this point I'm not in a position to comment on any other part of the da Vinci line.

As things proceed, we'll post more information on our website.

Alex Yeager
Mayfair Games

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

Daniel Wilson — 2008-08-20T01:19:55+00:00

DaVinci games haven't been featured on Mayfair's website since at least early June, which is when I noticed their absence. Mayfair did have most of them in stock at Origins '08, which is when I grabbed all the ones I still wanted/needed (the Bullet and a few 2-player card games).

Check DaVinci's website; they have an English version (of sorts)...
DW

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

muzzynyc — 2008-08-19T17:46:06+00:00

I may just have to pick up an extra copy of Bang! for to sell....

Thread: Re: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

ColtsFan76 — 2008-08-19T15:04:05+00:00

I have a used set of Bang!, Dodge City, a Fistful of Cards (all in English) and a brand new High Noon (in German/Dutch) availble!!!

Thread: Bang! Now OOP with no plans for reprint

shoptroll — 2008-08-19T14:57:51+00:00

Just wanted to give everyone else here a heads-up...

I sent an e-mail to Mayfair to inquire about the status of Bang! The Bullet and if there are any plans for a 3rd Edition printing.

Here's the reply I got:

Ryan,
I am sorry but Bang and Bang the Bullet are out of stock and out of print
and will not be reprinted. For any other information please contact DaVinci
Games.

Kim
Customer Service
Mayfair Games, Inc.
847-677-6655

More alarming is the complete lack of DaVinci Games listed on Mayfair's web site at the time I'm writing this post. I'm not totally sure what's going on, but my impression is that Mayfair is no longer distributing games by DaVinci. I am going to send DaVinci Games an e-mail to see if I can find out any more information.

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siuchak — 2008-08-14T17:27:54+00:00

Character cards with chinese text

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siuchak — 2008-08-14T17:26:39+00:00

Roles in Chinese

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siuchak — 2008-08-14T17:25:49+00:00

Guns and their chinese name

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siuchak — 2008-08-14T17:21:09+00:00

Chinese Virsion

Thread: Re: Why Bang makes me want to shoot myself (5 out of 10)

waywrong — 2008-08-13T00:48:51+00:00

I honestly don't understand how games over an hour are common place for those of you that don't like this game.

Over the 20+ games of Bang! (usually with 5-7 players) I've played, only two or three have gone over the forty minute mark, and that's only when people had two really defensive characters (like Elena Fuentes and Jourdannais) left.

Yes, you only have a 24% chance of drawing the Bang! card you need, but you have to realize that you are also playing on a team, and your teammates will have cards too. Plus, there are characters that can draw a lot of cards, or have alternative ways to mitigate needing a lot of bangs like Janet and Slab. There are also cards like General Store and Wells Fargo that let you get through the draw pile faster looking for the cards you need.

Maybe you guys are just too nice to each other or something , because usually when we play, guns start blazing on the second or third go around and the game is over by 20 minutes.

Sure, starting next to Slab or Willy the Kid means that you are probably going to get eliminated in the first round and sit on your butt for 15 minutes waiting for the game to finish, but then we have Nintendo DS's, snacks, and a dog to play with while we wait, so it's not that bad.

Thread: Re: Two dynamites

jmoots — 2008-08-11T18:59:00+00:00

Thank you very much! I swear I read that FAQ -- maybe my subconscious remembered the answer but not the source.

Thread: Re: Two dynamites

LucHuang — 2008-08-11T18:12:46+00:00

Dodge City FAQ 6

D6. What happens when there are two Dynamite in play and only two players still alive?

R. The Dynamite must pass to the first player (in clockwise order) without a Dynamite already in play. So, if the Dynamite does not explode, it stays in front of the same player, because the other one has already another in play.

Thread: Two dynamites

jmoots — 2008-08-11T17:58:10+00:00

I'm sure this must've been asked before, but I could not find it: What happens when you play a dynamite while another is already in play? The dynamites will obviously catch up to each other, but the rules state you can't have two of the same blue card in front of you. The impression I get from reading comments in other questions is that the the dynamite would skip to the first player w/o a dynamite in front (possibly winding up back where it started). Is that correct?

Thread: Re: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

DOCTORDINK — 2008-08-08T23:55:06+00:00

I believe it would be his last act of desperation to pass it on.

The rules explicitly state the only way to get rid of the dynamite card is as noted above. Otherwise one has to assume the designer did not foresee the possibility of a character being killed while holding the dynamite.

Thread: Re: Duel - Are you hitting yourself?

ColtsFan76 — 2008-08-08T22:07:57+00:00

And here is the official answer:

Q26. If an Outlaw plays a Duel and loses, does the player who won the Duel draw the 3 cards reward?

A. No. The reward goes to the player who played the card which was responsible of the elimination of the Outlaw. But since that card was played by the Outlaw himself, no one can gain the reward.

Thread: Re: Duel - Are you hitting yourself?

freduk — 2008-08-08T21:55:07+00:00

cferejohn wrote:
I'd interpret it the other way actually, but I don't feel that strongly about it.
Me too.
The outlaw was killed by the player he duelled. That's what duels are all about!

Thread: Re: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

freduk — 2008-08-08T21:52:51+00:00

If the player holding the dynamite is shot dead, then he can't pass it on. You could argue that the dynamite then blows up in his hands, but as he's already dead, it doesn't matter.
It might make him harder to bury.

Thread: Re: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

DOCTORDINK — 2008-08-08T21:25:32+00:00

I don't believe that is correct. The rules say the dynamite remains in play until it explodes or is removed by the play of the Panic or Cat Balou card.

I would pass it to the next player on the left if the current owner died.

Thread: Re: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

reapersaurus — 2008-08-08T18:29:47+00:00

Oh, man is this the perfect opportunity to bring in the (in)famous "And boom goes the dynamite" line...

Youtube Video

The dynamite HAD to blow up when you were taken out, man! It's too sweet not to play it like that and throw the line in as oblig.

Thread: Re: Duel - Are you hitting yourself?

cferejohn — 2008-08-08T17:25:30+00:00

I'd interpret it the other way actually, but I don't feel that strongly about it.

Thread: Re: Duel - Are you hitting yourself?

Melsana — 2008-08-08T17:09:45+00:00

FlyingArrow wrote:
I'd interpret it as the Outlaw killing himself for the purpose of the outlaw reward.

I agree.

Thread: Re: Duel - Are you hitting yourself?

FlyingArrow — 2008-08-08T15:20:20+00:00

I'd interpret it as the Outlaw killing himself for the purpose of the outlaw reward.

Thread: Duel - Are you hitting yourself?

windmill88 — 2008-08-08T14:39:08+00:00

We had an odd situation where an Outlaw challenged another player to a duel. The Outlaw had only 1 bullet/life left. Then the Outlaw lost the duel and died.

Does the opponent get the 3 cards for the kill? Or did the Outlaw kill himself (and therefore, like dynamite, no one gets cards)?

We can see it both ways. The Outlaw played the initiating Duel card, but in a (real world) Duel you would be shot by someone else - not yourself.

I looked through prior rules and cannot find where this has been addressed. Obviously I'd love to get Emiliano Sciarra's opinion. We play this game at work nearly every day at lunch. Way fun!

Thread: Re: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

conky — 2008-08-08T11:40:39+00:00

Thanks again!

Thread: Re: Life points/health question

conky — 2008-08-08T11:36:51+00:00

Thanks!

Thread: Re: Life points/health question

geekgeek — 2008-08-08T06:07:10+00:00

Nope, a player can never go above his original starting health, the only exception being the Sheriff player, who gets to start with one extra health.

Thread: Re: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

geekgeek — 2008-08-08T06:06:35+00:00

It dies with you and is discarded with the rest of your equipment.

Thread: Another rules question - this time dynamite.

conky — 2008-08-08T05:53:39+00:00

Here's this situation, say I am Pedro Ramirez and I have 1 life point remaining. The dynamite is directly to my right. That person does not trigger an explosion so the dynamite is passed to me. During the rest of his turn, he plays a Bang! card on me and I die. What happens with the dynamite card? Does it die with me or is passed to the player to my left?

Thanks,
Bob

Thread: Life points/health question

conky — 2008-08-08T05:50:28+00:00

Here's the situation - Pedro Ramirez starts with 4 total life points. If he gets a beer card or saloon, would he go to 5 life points? So, can a character go higher in life points that what they started with?

Thanks,
Bob

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LucyM — 2008-07-14T11:53:19+00:00

Another happy player

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Artax — 2008-06-04T19:44:12+00:00

Home made Bang (Hungarian version)

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selmore — 2008-03-28T13:14:16+00:00

Created cards w/ family pics

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sbarrera — 2008-03-16T23:23:44+00:00

Royal Flush