Game: La Isla Bohnitâ

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jeRm! — 2008-09-09T16:44:16+00:00

La Isla Hisbohnola - Pirate Island of the new "Pirates of the Caribbohn" card set (available in downloads)

Thread: Bohnaparte fighting rules

jeRm! — 2008-09-04T14:51:03+00:00

Has anyone tried this using a slightly tweaked attack/defense mechanism as in Bohnaparte? Possible in addition to the selling off or instead of.

The attacker chooses how he attacks (hand or deck) and places a card face down in front of himself.
The defender chooses how he defends (hand or deck) and places a card face down in front of himself.

Both sides reveal their card. The number printed on the card is the battle value.

If the battle value of the attacker is higher than that of the defender, the attack succeeds. At equal or lower value, the attack fails.

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rober — 2008-08-12T12:03:50+00:00

Thread: Re: Compatability of German and English versions

Great Dane — 2008-07-22T16:23:50+00:00

They should be fully compatible as they are printed by the same manufacturer.

Thread: Compatability of German and English versions

sifu-uk — 2008-07-22T15:38:18+00:00

I have the English version of Bohnanza and the German version of La Isla Bohnita. Are they compatible? What do I need to do to make them compatible or is that impossible?

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carthaginian — 2007-11-21T22:08:58+00:00

la isla bohnita redesign - tradeship

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carthaginian — 2007-11-12T12:43:12+00:00

The red pirate, part of a bohnanza redesign

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Livinus — 2007-09-21T16:46:26+00:00

Box front of the dutch edition (999 games)

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A.Men — 2007-04-20T21:16:02+00:00

New field

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samoan_jo — 2007-03-24T10:19:34+00:00

'La Isla Bohnitâ' - Amigo - German box back

Thread: Re: Session Report

gonzoron — 2006-06-05T18:34:50+00:00

phew... I think I've got it now. thanks for the assistance.

One last thing:
In the basic game, there is the following rule:
"When a player sells beans from a bean field, he may choose any bean
field with two or more bean cards. A player may not sell beans from
a bean field with a single card unless all his bean fields have just one
card. In this case, he may choose which single card to sell."

How does this interact with the La Isla expansion? Is it legal to harvest a single-bean field into a ship? (since you aren't selling it)

Thread: Re: Session Report

Liumas — 2006-06-05T16:47:51+00:00

gonzoron wrote:
is it true then that you can never collect coins directly from a field, as in the basic game? They must always go onto a ship first?

No. You may harvest beans from fields directly for sale as normal.

That's the key. When you harvest to a ship, the beans are not harvested directly for sale, they are loaded onto the ship with the intent of selling them later from the ship.

gonzoron wrote:
suppose I have:
1 trade ship with 3 blue beans
2 fields:
field #1 with 2 soy beans
field #2 with 3 stink beans

my turn arrives and the first card in my hand is a red bean

In your example, you could Harvest 3 Stinkers directly for sale, and then Sell them for 1 Thaler, then plant the Red bean to your now-empty field.

Look at the Harvesting and the Selling as two distinct operations. You only ever Harvest beans from a field, but once Harvested, you may either Sell them immediately as normal (for some Thaler or at a loss for zero Thaler), or instead you may Load them onto a Trade Ship (with the intent of Selling them later, after you increase their value, but from a Ship always for some Thaler and never for zero Thaler).

Say one of the last cards at either end of Bohnita is now a Blue bean, and it covers another Soy bean. You can then go there, pick up the Blue bean, then sell the 4 Blue beans now on the boat (for 1 Thaler), then harvest the 2 Soy from your field to your boat, then pick up the 3rd Soy at Bohnita, in hopes of later getting at least one more, which you might see somewhere else in the stacks at Bohnita... With this final arrangement, you are always now free to Sell the previously-harvested Soy from the Trade Ship, since you will earn 1 Thaler from the sale. Perfect time to not have the ship empty.

Thread: Re: Session Report

gonzoron — 2006-06-05T16:09:13+00:00

OK, so it's sarting to make a little sense now.

is it true then that you can never collect coins directly from a field, as in the basic game? They must always go onto a ship first?

suppose I have:
1 trade ship with 3 blue beans
2 fields:
field #1 with 2 soy beans
field #2 with 3 stink beans

my turn arrives and the first card in my hand is a red bean that I must plant. (Assume it's near the start of the game and I don't have enough coins to afford another field or boat)

In the basic game, I could cash in the soy or stink for a coin and plant the red. In la isla, am I right in thinking that I must throw away my stink or soy for no profit? (I can't move them to the ship because I can't sell the blue beans for <1 coin, according to the la isla rules)

So, does one normally try to keep one of their boats empty at all times to avoid having to lose beans from their field?

Thread: Re: How Many Times Thru Deck (2 Player)

Liumas — 2006-06-04T02:37:19+00:00

We played it twice through. As I suspected, each of us bought all items (Trade Ship, Pirate Ship, 3rd Bean Field), whereas it was possible in a single deck to win the game by not buying some items (the games can be close - but not always).

As it was, I won the game with 28, versus 22; if we had stopped at the 1st deck then I would have won by a much larger margin. This is partly why I want to play 2 decks - to be able to buy everything and then to come back and win. However, this play was inconclusive, since I won either way.

I'm now leaning towards playing only one deck. The game would be much shorter that way, fitting in easier as filler, giving some good angst over whether to buy everything, and a second could be played if desired. Next time maybe best 2 out of 3.

Thread: How Many Times Thru Deck (2 Player)

Liumas — 2006-06-04T00:29:11+00:00

For a 2 player game, how many times do you go through the deck?

We've been playing once through, as per standard 2 player Bohnanza. The wording of the La Isla Bohnita rules suggests that you do it more than once. And it seems twice might work better, giving you a chance to build more - we'll be trying that next time.

Thread: Re: Session Report

Liumas — 2006-06-04T00:25:38+00:00

#3, transfer all the beans onto the trade ship.

Would also work if you have 2 beans, for example - harvest them from the field onto the ship. No money is earned for beans harvested this way from a field onto a ship.

Thread: Re: Session Report

gonzoron — 2006-06-03T01:07:15+00:00

I'm still not understanding the rules here. What does it mean to "harvest beans onto a ship?" say I have 4 blue beans in a field.

do I:

1) sell the beans directly from the field, like in the basic game, getting one coin, and putting the other 3 beans in the discard
2) sell the beans directly from the field, like in the basic game, getting one coin, and putting the other 3 beans on my ship, where I can later add another blue bean and sell them again for one coin, putting the remaining 3 in the discard
3) transfer all 4 beans to the ship, where I can later add more blue beans from fields or la isla or sell them for one coin, putting the remaining 3 in the discard

Which is it? or is it something else entirely?

Thread: Re:Session Report

hakko504 — 2005-01-11T19:30:22+00:00

arcanus wrote:
daw65 (#19381),

I think there are still rules that are unclear.

-Once players begin taking beans from the ports on La Isla Bohnita, do more beans get added to the stack to keep it at 5?

No. A new stack of 5 beans is added when the first is gone.

-When a player sails to La Isla Bohnita, can it choose to stay in the port?

No.

-Can there be more than 1 ship in the port?

No.

-What is the point of sailing back to the home port unless it is to specifically load/unload beans since pirate ships can only attack a player's "home harbor?" Since a player can trade, harvest, and move ships in any order an unlimited number of times, it seems unwise to ever keep ones ship in the home harbor when it is another player's turn.

I'd say that the ship is always in your home port unless you are going to pick up beans at La Isla Bohnitâ.

-I think i agree that selling from a ship must net at least 1 coin. There was some debate as to whether this is the case or whether a player needed to put more beans in a ship to raise the bean-o-meter up another coin. We ended up playing with the latter rule.

Not sure what you're asking here. You may sell at any point, providing you get at least 1 coin. You may f.i. sell 7 Blue beans for 2 coins. You do not need to sell at exactly 1 or 2 coins.

-Last question... The rules say "beans from pirate ships and trade ships can be unloaded if you cannot raise any bean-coins." What does this mean? How can you know?

'Unload' is a VERY bad translation of the german rule. It means 'MOVE' beans from one ship to another, nothing else.

Are you allowed to go through the discard deck and look at the coins each player has put aside and count how many of each bean has been used to determine if it's possible to even get the remaining beans of a particular type?

NO! Especially going through another players coins is a NO-NO.

There is one requirement in unloading beans from a pirate ship to trade ship. It cannot do it on the same turn is does a raid.

Thread: User Review

hakko504 — 2005-01-04T21:33:25+00:00

Shipping beans? Can this be fun? Should be, but I'm afraid this idea falls rather flat after only a few minutes.
This review will mostly cover the differences from the base game

This expansion adds 2 new beans (Mokkabohnen & Wachsbohnen) as well as a home harbour for each player (2-7) and ships, 2 tradeships for each player and a pirateship for each player. 3rd beanfields are also included if you don't have any before. These use a new design which I rather like.

The home harbours does not actually add anything to the game play but is only there to mark what color your tradeships have. The pirate ships all are identical (why? There is a place that could have been used to add player color on a flag. )

On to gameplay:
In addition to the actual planting/harvesting/selling of beans, you may now also harvest beans that you put on the ships, in order to sell later. The only point of the ships seems to be to allow for the pirates to raid them, other than that, it would have worked rather better with some form of warehouses instead. That would have kept the main game clean and not added at lot of stuff just for the sake of adding.

Like I said, the players can also buy pirate ships, which can raid the other players ships and steal beans from them. The raided player does always have the option of selling the beans on the ship so there is seldom a point in raiding someone. However, you may only sell beans off a ship once you get money from doing so, so if there isn't enough beans on the ship to raise a bean-dollar, then a raid can be successful.

The last thing you can use the ships for is to go to 'La Isla Bohnitâ' and pick up harvested beans there.

In all this expansion does not add anything interesting to the basic game, but the price (in Europe, I have the german edition) is rather good (~6€) so anyone who likes Bohnanza should be able to pick the game up. They will find a rather dull expansion though that is only interesting for the two player variant which works better than the rest of the expansion.

Total: 6.5/10. 6/10 for the multiplayer version and 7/10 with 2 players.

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gonzo104 — 2004-08-18T20:13:30+00:00

the ships and the 3rd Beancard

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gonzo104 — 2004-08-18T20:13:30+00:00

the islands

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gonzo104 — 2004-08-18T20:13:30+00:00

The new beans

Thread: important English rules clarification

toguopp — 2004-04-23T17:43:06+00:00

Some years ago, I was informed that there was a rule missing from the English translation. This may be a reason why the game hasn't been as popular as it deserves to be.

Basically, the missing rule is that you can, at any time, transfer beans from your pirate ship to your trade ships, and from one of your trade ships to the other trade ship. You cannot just dump beans into the ocean. To get rid of your beans, you must be able to sell for at least one bean-coin. If you can't sell the beans on a ship for at least one bean-coin, at least you can transfer them to one of your trade ships.

Thread: Re:Session Report

arcanus — 2004-01-30T14:16:06+00:00

daw65 (#19381),

I think there are still rules that are unclear.

-Once players begin taking beans from the ports on La Isla Bohnita, do more beans get added to the stack to keep it at 5?
-When a player sails to La Isla Bohnita, can it choose to stay in the port?
-Can there be more than 1 ship in the port?
-What is the point of sailing back to the home port unless it is to specifically load/unload beans since pirate ships can only attack a player's "home harbor?" Since a player can trade, harvest, and move ships in any order an unlimited number of times, it seems unwise to ever keep ones ship in the home harbor when it is another player's turn.
-I think i agree that selling from a ship must net at least 1 coin. There was some debate as to whether this is the case or whether a player needed to put more beans in a ship to raise the bean-o-meter up another coin. We ended up playing with the latter rule.
-Last question... The rules say "beans from pirate ships and trade ships can be unloaded if you cannot raise any bean-coins." What does this mean? How can you know? Are you allowed to go through the discard deck and look at the coins each player has put aside and count how many of each bean has been used to determine if it's possible to even get the remaining beans of a particular type?

There is one requirement in unloading beans from a pirate ship to trade ship. It cannot do it on the same turn is does a raid.

Thread: Re:Session Report

daw65 — 2003-09-12T22:17:20+00:00

(#12034),
I just went back through the ruleset for this, and I think that the translation here is not quite right. I'm not sure about rewording everything, but to summarize what I believe to be the case:

- All ships can have only one kind of bean on it, each. They can hold any number of that kind of bean, though.
- Pirate ships can attack any number of players on a turn, but can only attack each trade ship once, and take only one card per attack.
- Trade ships can move from harbor to harbor (Bohnbay, Bohnaco, home harbor) as often as necessary.
- Fields can be harvested to a trade ship (keeping in mind the one bean type per ship rule).
- Beans can be offloaded from pirate ship to a trade ship. No minimum requirement exists for this.
- Beans can be offloaded from one trade ship to another trade ship. No minimum requirement exists for this.
- Beans can be sold from any ship. This can only be done if that sale nets at least one coin. Beans can't be just dumped from the ship (i.e., this isn't the Boston Bean Party).
- Beans cannot be offloaded from a trade ship to a pirate ship.
- Once a bean is/has been on a ship, it cannot be planted.

I think that covers everything.

Thread: Session Report

dougadamsau — 2001-01-01T06:00:00+00:00

Doug writes:

The Svea Rike game was still going, and the players seemed to be enjoying it, so we decided to finish with this new expansion for the Billabong favorite.

I am not sure if this expansion was necessary, and I don't think we got the rules quite right either. The game is played pretty much normally, but you have a bean ship which can hold harvested beans. You can sail your ship out from your harbour (represented by a small playing mat) out to La Isla Bohnita, and pick up harvested beans sitting on the docks of two ports there - Bohnaco and Bohnbay. These beans are dealt off the deck into stacks of five, and you can only take off the top of a stack.

Here we struck problems in the rules with ship movement. We didn't know exactly how much ship movement you could do. The rules talked about visiting both ports on La Isla Bohnita and going back home. Then there was a reference saying "this can be repeated in any order" - did this mean unlimited ship movement, or we could do it again ONCE?

Dey was in the "once" camp, but we decided on unlimited ship movement during a turn which turned the game into a bit of a farce. Second ships were bought and the deck disappeared like a hot knife through butter. No pirate ships were bought (these allow you to sail out and rob other players ships, but apparently robbed beans cannot be mixed with 'clean' beans!).

In the lounge the Svea Rike game had finished, so a game of Samurai was being learnt. I was called up to the lounge to explain a few things, those "7" tiles are in fact "1" tiles instead, etc, Samurai affect all adjacent pieces, etc.

It was getting late, Janet and Dey were just about asleep and I wasn't far behind. I ended the game refreshing the La Isla Bohnita stack:

Dey: 17 (the only player not to buy a second ship)
Janet: 16
Julian: 16
Doug: 13

I did a silly, silly thing. I had a Rote Bean planted in one beanfield right through turn one. I gurgled happily over it, the others weren't growing them, so I would be sure to clean up when the other Rote's appeared. Doh! This was one of the bean types that was removed from the game - we'd missed that one and I hadn't spotted it!

Doug's rating of the expansion: 5 - we need the rules issues resolved.