Game: Wings of War - Famous Aces

Thread: Re: Frank Luke?...Deluxe edition in the U.S.?...

kduke — 2008-09-05T20:30:54+00:00

I've posted 3 pics from the Phoenix airport of an original Spad 13 colored to look like Frank Luke's. He was from Arizona and they are proud of the native son.

This is a nice display area around the top of the escalators, with both still photos and some short movies on various bits of period (mostly flying, some general WWI) information. You could easily spend 30 mins or more there, so look for it if you pass through Phoenix airport.

This area is BEFORE you have to go through security, so you don't have to be on an airplane to see it.

Same image gallery

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/images/user/22608

Thread: Re: Frank Luke?...picture of markings

kduke — 2008-09-03T00:52:33+00:00

Well, the site turned down the pic for here-- said it was not related.

Hmm.

But suggested I put it on my personal gallery. I hadn't even tried to have one of those, so here goes pic #1.

SPAD 13 with Frank Luke's markings, in the Seattle Museum of Flight.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/images/user/22608

I'll post the one from Phoenix too-- it's much easier to enjoy. (SMF is really snug in some places.)

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

kduke — 2008-09-03T00:39:47+00:00

I have spent quite a bit of time searching these forums as well as the FFG website,

Page 2 of the entire list-- that is one click backwards--

"Can Someone Clarify What Expansions Work With What?"

Page 5-- that is 4 clicks back--

Where to start with the Wings of War series?

I could keep on going, but there is not need to make the point. This does not involve selecting an individual topic line-- which would work even faster but requires picking the right topic. It's just clicking backwards on the whole forum and glancing at the headlines.

How hard is that?

"If you see by the title you're not interested..." misses the point too.

Things are harder to find BECAUSE of the redundancy. Eldard's post is, indeed, very thorough. You can find similar detail at least six times in previous threads.

Of course, they would not be answering your own personal question...which is not phrased exactly like the two posts that I found in less than 30 seconds...Perhaps somehow posting it yourself makes the answers less confusing and contradictory, but I wouldn't know about that.

You have a son. Learn from this and don't waste time taking offense. It's what you'll want him to do.

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

timmy65 — 2008-09-02T18:40:59+00:00

kduke wrote:
I really try not to slam folks for posting the same questions over and over, but this "which box to get first?" question has been asked and asked and asked again, and minimal looking through the back pages would turn up long threads and discussions on the subject.

People complain that they don't like wading through the bulk, but one of the reasons there IS so much bulk to wade through is covering the same ground over and again.

I apologise if I upset you that much that you felt the need to "slam" me. I have spent quite a bit of time searching these forums as well as the FFG website, not to mention Ebay, to try and understand what is needed to play the game. Much of the information that I found was at times confusing at best, and at worst contradictory.

I even went so far as to download every set of rules posted at the FFG website in an attempt to sort this all out.

At this point in time I wouldn't even bother with going the boardgame route. I'd just wait for the release on XboxLive arcade and pay the amount that is required to unlock the game and enjoy it if it weren't for the fact that my son will be turning 5 in less than 2 weeks and I think he would really enjoy "flying" planes around the kitchen table with me.

Perhaps you need to have another beer (Beer Fan microbadge) and relax a bit.

Thank you Eldard Your post explained how this game is packaged better than any of the numerous posts I read.

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

clloyd09 — 2008-09-02T13:04:37+00:00

If the title is explicit (which it is) and you don't want to read the thread, then just don't read it. Some folks either don't know how to search, or just can't find what they're looking for. Not really a big deal as far as I'm concerned. And besides, if the existing thread(s) is/are old enough, then the information might be outdated.

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

kduke — 2008-09-02T04:41:09+00:00

I really try not to slam folks for posting the same questions over and over, but this "which box to get first?" question has been asked and asked and asked again, and minimal looking through the back pages would turn up long threads and discussions on the subject.

People complain that they don't like wading through the bulk, but one of the reasons there IS so much bulk to wade through is covering the same ground over and again.

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

clloyd09 — 2008-09-02T01:39:31+00:00

Hmm. Odd decision by FFG. Thanks for the clarification though.

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

jpat — 2008-09-02T01:11:26+00:00

clloyd09 wrote:
Driver 8 wrote:
I'd get the Wings of War - Deluxe Set. You'll have to order it from someplace outside the US. I got mine from Quebec for a good price and decent shipping. And then download the English version of the rules.
Why is that? Not printed in English yet, or OOP and out of stock in US (or something else)?

Never available in the U.S. Ask FFG; it was their decision as the U.S. distributor of the game.

Edit: Well, probably *don't* ask FFG. This has come up before, and their point, as I recall it, was that it was largely superfluous with the individual minis and the box sets they'd already sold.

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

clloyd09 — 2008-09-02T01:02:41+00:00

Driver 8 wrote:
I'd get the Wings of War - Deluxe Set. You'll have to order it from someplace outside the US. I got mine from Quebec for a good price and decent shipping. And then download the English version of the rules.
Why is that? Not printed in English yet, or OOP and out of stock in US (or something else)?

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

Eldard — 2008-09-02T00:42:01+00:00

timmy65 wrote:
Wings of War looks to be a great deal of fun. I'm interested in buying a boxed set and giving it a try. Can anyone offer me some guidance as to which of the boxed sets to try to get a start with Wings of War?

Thanks in advance.

The boxed games are complete with aircraft cards, a limited number of manuever decks for those airacraft (in most cases, enough to fly 2 vs. 2 engagements), range sticks, player aid boards, game markers/chits, and a rulebook.

Famous Aces is single seat fighters only, but includes the Red Baron. It does not include the rules for altitude, but those can be downloaded from the company's website.

Burning Drachens introduces some new fighter types and rules for balloons and ground-based anti-aircraft.

Watch Your Back! introduces twin-seaters with tailgunners.

The Airplane Pack Series I miniatures are from the Famous Aces boxed set, and the Airplane Pack Series II miniatures are from the Watch Your Back! set. Each miniature comes with the model aircraft, a plastic stand with stem segments, a deck of maneuver cards for that aircraft type, and the aircraft card should you decide not to use the miniature.

So, if you plan on obtaining the miniatures from both Series, you're probably best off with Burning Drachens.

If you're not interested in miniatures, get Famous Aces.

I was curious about the WoW system, and started with the WW2 game, Dawn of War. There are some changes in the basic rules to accommodate the damage capacity of heavier weapons carried by the early-WW2 aircraft. But I was so impressed with this set, I went back and got all the WW1 sets and miniatures.

Thread: Re: Which boxed set to get first?

Driver 8 — 2008-09-01T23:29:15+00:00

I'd get the Wings of War - Deluxe Set. You'll have to order it from someplace outside the US. I got mine from Quebec for a good price and decent shipping. And then download the English version of the rules.

Then you have all the rules, cards and counters you'll need, plus you get 4 minis. All at a price cheaper than what it'd cost to get it individually. And it's all in one box. I really think it's the best way to go.

Thread: Which boxed set to get first?

timmy65 — 2008-09-01T22:57:55+00:00

Wings of War looks to be a great deal of fun. I'm interested in buying a boxed set and giving it a try. Can anyone offer me some guidance as to which of the boxed sets to try to get a start with Wings of War?

Thanks in advance.

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

jrbentley — 2008-09-01T00:58:48+00:00

timmy65 wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
cbs42 wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Where is the Wii support?

This really SUCKS!

(And please don't tell me to go out and buy an XBox or PS3, if I'd wanted one, I would have got one by now.)

Ok, I won't tell you that. But I will tell you that your opinion on the matter may change as XBL releases more boardgames that you like. They've clearly been committed to catering to the boardgaming community, and there's no reason to suspect that their focus will change.

Sorry, bud. I do love board games, and I don't care how many they release for XBox, but I won't buy an XBox....I just don't care for them personally, and I refuse to pay more for a game system than I pay for my house monthly. I'll continue to play board games at the table, thank you. That's just my own personal opinion. I don't begrudge others the right to like and buy what they want. All I'm saying is I don't understand why some developers won't recognize that the Wii IS a viable system for these online boardgames.

Developers don't support the Wii online due to the fact that Nintendo really has very little interest in supporting online play. Microsoft provides all the back end tools necessary to get the job done.

They don't have the experience that Microsoft has in supporting the API's necessary (not to mention the infrastructure) to support net play. Nor do they have the cash that Sony has to fully commit to online play. They have stated this in the past when asked about online play.

It really has nothing to do with the power of the console . It's a business decision that Nintendo has made. I know that they have stated that they don't believe that most people want online play as another reason for not fully supporting it as well.

See you all on Xbox Live.

I can assure you, you won't see me there, and I don't miss it one bit. Have fun.

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

timmy65 — 2008-08-31T22:41:22+00:00

jrbentley wrote:
cbs42 wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Where is the Wii support?

This really SUCKS!

(And please don't tell me to go out and buy an XBox or PS3, if I'd wanted one, I would have got one by now.)

Ok, I won't tell you that. But I will tell you that your opinion on the matter may change as XBL releases more boardgames that you like. They've clearly been committed to catering to the boardgaming community, and there's no reason to suspect that their focus will change.

Sorry, bud. I do love board games, and I don't care how many they release for XBox, but I won't buy an XBox....I just don't care for them personally, and I refuse to pay more for a game system than I pay for my house monthly. I'll continue to play board games at the table, thank you. That's just my own personal opinion. I don't begrudge others the right to like and buy what they want. All I'm saying is I don't understand why some developers won't recognize that the Wii IS a viable system for these online boardgames.

Developers don't support the Wii online due to the fact that Nintendo really has very little interest in supporting online play. Microsoft provides all the back end tools necessary to get the job done.

They don't have the experience that Microsoft has in supporting the API's necessary (not to mention the infrastructure) to support net play. Nor do they have the cash that Sony has to fully commit to online play. They have stated this in the past when asked about online play.

It really has nothing to do with the power of the console . It's a business decision that Nintendo has made. I know that they have stated that they don't believe that most people want online play as another reason for not fully supporting it as well.

See you all on Xbox Live.

Thread: Re: Confused re Cards

angiolillo — 2008-08-31T08:29:53+00:00

Thanks a lot Jim!

I also add that if yopu mixed things you can still sort them out thanks to the letters in the right lower corner, at least in the last sets/reprints. Cards from the Immelmann booster are marked IM, from Recon Patrol RP and so on.

All the best,

A.

Thread: Re: Confused re Cards

jpat — 2008-08-30T19:55:57+00:00

Try this list first, which is buried a ways down in the forum:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/158240

Andrea has listed the planes and decks that come with each boxed set and what minis come in each "wave."

The minis do come with cards, but only their maneuver deck (the cards that have the arrows printed on them indicating where the plane will travel). You need the appropriate damage deck(s) from one of the base sets and ideally the other stuff too, like the counters and the plane mats for organizing the cards. If you're somewhere where you can get the Deluxe Set, it's got four minis and all the needed accessories; unfortunately, it's not available in the States from FFG.

Thread: Confused re Cards

Social Work Dad — 2008-08-30T19:38:34+00:00

Is there a list anywhere of which decks come with which set, which planes need which decks (movement and damage), and which planes are available as miniatures?

Does each miniature come with some cards?

Thread: Re: Airfields

Social Work Dad — 2008-08-27T19:26:42+00:00

Thanks for that - they are awesome!

Thread: Re: Airfields

angiolillo — 2008-08-27T13:11:29+00:00

Our French friends Les Etrons Volants (top left link):
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/etronsvolants/goodies/goodies.ht...

Their home page:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/etronsvolants/

Thread: Airfields

Social Work Dad — 2008-08-27T12:44:27+00:00

So, has anyone actually made an airfield?

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

AbeLincoln — 2008-08-26T21:23:00+00:00

I also played this at GenCon a few times and really liked it. It was still in Beta and there's a bit of polish yet to do but I'm really looking forward to the full implementation!

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

Apparatus — 2008-08-26T20:31:47+00:00

I played a demo of this at GenCon and have to say it is a great implementation of the game. Some screenshots can be seen here: Big Rooster

or here:

http://www.big-rooster.com/uploads/Shot_01.png

http://www.big-rooster.com/uploads/Shot_03.png

http://www.big-rooster.com/uploads/Shot_02.png

http://www.big-rooster.com/uploads/Shot_04.png

http://www.big-rooster.com/uploads/Shot_05.png

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

Bixby — 2008-08-26T19:40:26+00:00

Thomas_de_Monet wrote:
Our regular weekly game nights are in a pub - so we play on a pool table.
Worked well so far with 4, 5 and 6 players.

Hey Stu:

I would show up for that. I did not know there was any Wings OF War action at the German Club. PM me or Email me if you want to plan for a game. I have all the minis so far and would dearly like to get a large scale game in.
-Matt

Thread: Re: Mixing different language editions

TeeWee — 2008-08-26T07:43:29+00:00

Thank you. This answers my question exactly!

Thread: Re: which rules & what next?

angiolillo — 2008-08-26T06:40:34+00:00

You can play with the Famous Aces / Watch your back! rules. Anyway true, the Miniature rulebbok can be downloaded and will provide you specific rules for altitude and even for the Roland C.II two-seater if you will buy it separately.

Nexus site is there: www.wingsofwar.it
But Miniature rules are also on FFG site:
http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/wingsofwarsupport.html

The downloadable version is missing only the scenarios, that can be found there:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/file/info/31969

All the best!

Andrea

Thread: Re: Mixing different language editions

angiolillo — 2008-08-26T06:30:57+00:00

Mix with no problems! All the components are produced together and are actually the same. Then they are assembled in boxes with rulebooks in different languages, but cards - counters - mats- rulers come from the very same bunch. The box can also vary: in Dutch we had 100% Dutch boxes, in other countries there are boxes in English with different mixes of languages on the back.

There is only one exception: Russia. The Russian edition is printed in Russia. Cards are die-cut and some parts are in Russian. They seem to be exactly the same size and all the gaming data are the same, so there should be no problems mixing them too anyway.

Besides, what I wrote above is true for boxes. Booster packs (and airplane packs for the miniature version) have no rules, so they are actually the same stuff in the same packaging all over the world.

Thread: Re: Mixing different language editions

TeeWee — 2008-08-26T06:20:33+00:00

Thanks for the answer, but to be sure, I'd like to clarify my question:

Is it possible to use the cards in an english language booster pack with a dutch base set? Or are the cards in a different size, the arrows different, or different in another unforeseen and incompatible manner?

Again, I don't care about the language itself; the reason I ask is purely because of pricing and availability of the sets in Holland.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

Thomas_de_Monet — 2008-08-26T05:40:55+00:00

Our regular weekly game nights are in a pub - so we play on a pool table.

Worked well so far with 4, 5 and 6 players.

Thread: Re: Mixing different language editions

ketchupgun — 2008-08-25T22:14:48+00:00

as far as I know, the actual game components are completely language independant. It's just the rules..which are easily downloaded of the publisher's site.

Thread: Mixing different language editions

TeeWee — 2008-08-25T20:26:51+00:00

Just to be certain: I presume I can mix (if needed) sets and boosters from different language editions without problem? Purely from a compatibility (size of cards mostly) point of view. I don't believe there are any language-dependent components on the cards, but even if there were, I can deal with those.

Reason is, only FA and WyB have been released in Dutch. If I end up liking this, I may "need" to get boosters in a different language.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

Sagrilarus — 2008-08-25T20:13:15+00:00

clearclaw wrote:
Sagrilarus wrote:
clearclaw wrote:
Our main playing surface is two meters square. This seems ideal.

    Too big. Try using a quarter of it and you get the Jack Dempsy effect. The Fokkers really come alive in the tight space.

We've played on smaller surfaces. For a while our main area was just over a meter square, then a 1.5 meter circle, then 2x1 meters and finally 2 meters square. The 2 square meter playfield has proven the most interesting.

    That's curious. We started bigger and moved smaller.

             Sag.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

clearclaw — 2008-08-25T19:38:29+00:00

Sagrilarus wrote:
clearclaw wrote:
Our main playing surface is two meters square. This seems ideal.

Too big. Try using a quarter of it and you get the Jack Dempsy effect. The Fokkers really come alive in the tight space.

We've played on smaller surfaces. For a while our main area was just over a meter square, then a 1.5 meter circle, then 2x1 meters and finally 2 meters square. The 2 square meter playfield has proven the most interesting.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

Sagrilarus — 2008-08-25T19:33:30+00:00

clearclaw wrote:
Our main playing surface is two meters square. This seems ideal.

Too big. Try using a quarter of it and you get the Jack Dempsy effect. The Fokkers really come alive in the tight space.

Sag.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

clearclaw — 2008-08-25T19:30:20+00:00

Our main playing surface is two meters square. This seems ideal.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

TeeWee — 2008-08-25T19:28:37+00:00

wow, this many answers in half an hour

Well, I guess the table I have (about 4ftx4ft) is plenty of space then. Thanks for the quick answers!

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

kduke — 2008-08-25T19:05:03+00:00

For demos I've had 10 and (once) 11 people on a 4x 8 table. Makes for a 'target rich' environment, but never felt too crowded.

Doing this with minies, you definitely want to keep each plane's card handy, for there will be times when you need to put cards on the table because a space does get crowded.

When the game first came out, I was disappointed in the size of the cards. But I've gotten used to them, and realize the effect on playing space is another place where bigger would not be better.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

jpat — 2008-08-25T18:49:47+00:00

A typical card table is enough for small battles. Any more than that and you spend way too much time closing, which is tactically uninteresting.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

SouthernMan — 2008-08-25T18:45:31+00:00

I have a Hotzmat 45" x 33" and that seemed plenty big enough (and more) for a 3 v 3.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

Sagrilarus — 2008-08-25T18:38:42+00:00

    I've played 1-on-1 dogfights on a 4-foot round table with excellent results. You have to play the edge as well as the other player but that adds to the game.

    Bigger may not necessarily be better.

             Sag.

Thread: Re: which rules & what next?

mark.gamer — 2008-08-25T18:36:28+00:00

Three dimensional play really makes this game, IMHO. I have only ever used the minis which make 3-D easy.

Thread: Re: How much playing surface is necessary?

mark.gamer — 2008-08-25T18:32:50+00:00

I'd say 2 feet by 3 feet is enough for a one-on-one match.

We used a 4 feet by 8 feet space for a five-on-five match a couple of weeks ago at Skirmish '08, which also works out to about six square feet per combatant pair.

Thread: How much playing surface is necessary?

TeeWee — 2008-08-25T18:27:04+00:00

Just a very quick question: in general, how much table surface do you need to play this game?

Thread: Re: which rules & what next?

SouthernMan — 2008-08-25T18:18:24+00:00

You can download all the English rules (FA, BD, Minis) from the Nexus site ... the link should be under the game pages somewhere. As long as you've got an A deck (preferably two for 4+) and a B deck then you're cooking.

Thread: Re: which rules & what next?

dogmatix — 2008-08-25T18:03:17+00:00

I thought Drachens was the first set to introduce the altitiude and immelman optional rules, which, IMO, are critical to any WWI dogfight game. It also gives you the C&D damage decks. Beyond that, you want more minis

Thread: which rules & what next?

Social Work Dad — 2008-08-25T17:37:26+00:00

I've just ordered Wings of War Deluxe. I understand that I will need an English copy of the rules. Will the straightforward WoW rules be okay with the deluxe set?

Also.... what other WoW bits should I consider next to maximise my enjoyment of the game? I see on another thread that Burning Drachens was recommended - what do you think?

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

Tolchock — 2008-08-25T12:51:27+00:00

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!
This will be so great! (If oyu will be able to play online vs others)

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

jrbentley — 2008-08-21T18:08:08+00:00

cbs42 wrote:
jrbentley wrote:
Where is the Wii support?

This really SUCKS!

(And please don't tell me to go out and buy an XBox or PS3, if I'd wanted one, I would have got one by now.)

Ok, I won't tell you that. But I will tell you that your opinion on the matter may change as XBL releases more boardgames that you like. They've clearly been committed to catering to the boardgaming community, and there's no reason to suspect that their focus will change.

Sorry, bud. I do love board games, and I don't care how many they release for XBox, but I won't buy an XBox....I just don't care for them personally, and I refuse to pay more for a game system than I pay for my house monthly. I'll continue to play board games at the table, thank you. That's just my own personal opinion. I don't begrudge others the right to like and buy what they want. All I'm saying is I don't understand why some developers won't recognize that the Wii IS a viable system for these online boardgames.

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

cbs42 — 2008-08-21T17:56:53+00:00

jrbentley wrote:
Where is the Wii support?

This really SUCKS!

(And please don't tell me to go out and buy an XBox or PS3, if I'd wanted one, I would have got one by now.)

Ok, I won't tell you that. But I will tell you that your opinion on the matter may change as XBL releases more boardgames that you like. They've clearly been committed to catering to the boardgaming community, and there's no reason to suspect that their focus will change.

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

Low Flying Tiger — 2008-08-21T17:36:24+00:00

Looking forward to this! The other boardgames they have on Xbox live have been great. It will be fun to try out WOW360. Any screen shots anywhere?

Thread: Re: Wings of War coming to Xbox Live and Playstation Network

jrbentley — 2008-08-21T17:28:26+00:00

LordJesse wrote:
The Xbox right now is the best console for online boardgame playing. Wii users can always use Vassal on their computers.

Jesse

I appreciate that, Jesse, but maybe I don't want to use Vassal. I don't believe for one second that the Wii cannot be utilized in the same way as the Xbox or PS3 for boardgaming online....yeah, I know the graphics may not be the million-dollar-Dreamworks-Studio-like graphics the other consoles feature, but graphics are not everything. I rate gameplay WAY ABOVE graphics and I've got games for the Wii that are as FUN to play as anything else on any other console.

The fact is, it all comes down to advertising and hype. Too bad the Wii has been made to look like just a toy, while the Xbox and PS3 are "next generation".......I suppose beauty is in the eye (or in the case of the Wii, the HAND) of the beholder.

C'mon Developers, the Wii has sold tons and tons and tons of units...let's see some serious board games ported to it! Please!

(The next sound you hear will be me stepping down off of my soap box.)

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jsper — 2008-07-28T01:19:50+00:00

Promotional in spanish

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Hex_Enduction_Hour — 2008-07-22T19:38:19+00:00

'D' Damage Deck

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Hex_Enduction_Hour — 2008-07-22T19:36:31+00:00

'C' Damage Deck

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Hex_Enduction_Hour — 2008-07-22T19:35:15+00:00

The 'B' Damage Deck

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Hex_Enduction_Hour — 2008-07-22T19:33:21+00:00

Breakdown of the 'A' Damage Deck.

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Duane Abrames — 2008-06-07T02:03:40+00:00

Fantasy Flight Box Front

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Duane Abrames — 2008-06-07T02:00:59+00:00

Fantasy Flight Box Back

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janekpl — 2008-03-31T21:47:57+00:00

papierowy model 1:100

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gleritte — 2008-02-28T16:36:35+00:00

Here's a pink Hanriot for the guy who wanted one for his daughter.