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The Most Overproduced Games Ever
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These are games that just go totally over the top in terms of production. By overproduced I mean that the game just blows you away when you open the box. For fun, add the one element that really pushes the game over the top (the most excessive, maybe useless, but still cool bit).
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1. Board Game: Railroad Tycoon [Average Rating:7.69 Overall Rank:45]
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The box weighs something like 10 pounds. It's packed full of awesome bits. Like the back of the box says, you'll feel like you're building a model railroad. The really excessive and ludicrous components in this game are the gigantic board that doesn't even fit on most people's tables and the empty city markers. All they do is mark a city as having no goods, but they are molded models of water towers, railroad crossings, and station houses. They look awesome on the board.
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Eric Mowrer
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Yuck. More games with giant molded plastic pieces. That's all we need. Gaudy.

[dawns flame retardant suit]
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This one is THE overproduced game. To the point that so much plastic gets in your way. You don't see the color of that empty city? Oh! But the empty city marker looks gorgeous!

Do you need share counters 3x3 inches?

Anyway, it's a great game. It just is overproduced.
 
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Railroad Tycoon is a great game, my wife recently bought it for me. She paid just over £50 Sterling for it. ( I live in the UK) So with the exchange rate as it is at the moment she paid more than a wacking $100 for it. Was it worth it? Hell yes!!!!
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I just traded mine. The box I shipped it in was perfect and still it cost almost $30 to ship because of the weight.
 
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aristarco wrote:

Do you need share counters 3x3 inches?


Shares are public, so yes you do. Any smaller and you wouldn't be able to see them from across the enormous board.
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2. Board Game: CATAN 3D Collector's Edition [Average Rating:7.85 Overall Rank:204]
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So you can spend about $50 on Settlers and Cities & Knights, or you can spend $300 on this ridiculously overproduced but still cool collector's edition. The hexes and pieces are all sculpted and painted and the setup just looks amazing. The most ridiculous bit in this game is the knights, who carry little flags that you can raise when they are activated. The wooden treasure chest the game comes in is awfully nice too.
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I got an e-mail on Tuesday that these are about to ship from Fair Play Games! Yea!

As someone who goes nuts over nice game "bits" and storage boxes, this was a no-brainer purchase.

Next up is finally getting around to my 3-D Kill Doctor Lucky mansion.
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  • Posted Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:48 pm
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So... How random can setup be if the pieces are 3-D?

Any chance of a special "5-6 player" expansion?

Or a Seafarer expansion? I guess one wpuld ned a secound wooden chest to fit it all then
 
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Overproduced?

I think you can demand that type of content for THIS price!!
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HMTKSteve wrote:
So... How random can setup be if the pieces are 3-D?


My husband and I bought this for my mom & dad when it first came out and my mom quickly solved this problem by making colored markers to represent the various types of land tiles. (She glued colored to the flat side of those glass blobs they use in flower vases, but there are lots of other things you could do.) Put the markers in a cup, pull one at a time, select the matching land type and away you go....

I'm happy to say that this game (not necessarily the 3D version, but it probably helped) transformed my dad from a you-gotta-beg-him to a when-do-we-start game player. In fact, he returned the favor this year and gave us a copy for Christmas.

It really is very beautiful and more fun to play. Especially putting the flags on the knights.
 
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John Pack
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The random set up is a cinch -- just shuffle the right number of cards of each terrain type (including one of the special upgrade cards to represent the dessert). Then deal them out in the islands shape -- replacing each card with the right terrain as you set up.

The deluxe set is the only way to play Settlers! Worth every penny -- expecially if you bought it at $200 or less from an internet seller.
 
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3. Board Game: History of the World [Average Rating:7.17 Overall Rank:254]
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History of the World is an older title so it's kind of eclipsed by some of the more recent titles. But each player gets a set of minis that contains like 8 or 9 different models that represent the various civs through time. The gold and silver painted forts and arches are the classiest touch in the game.
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7, I believe. 7 Epochs, 4000BC-1914AD. Of course, you can draft Axis and Alliex peieces for Epoch 8 if you like.
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I agree that the bits for this game are GREAT! I also agree that you can sort each Epoch in the sectioned box that this game comes in--save your money for other games instead of buying storage boxes for this one. If you really hate to sort the colors each game, just buy some snack-sized baggies for about $1.59 for a box of 50 or so!
 
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Don't forget they don't have those baggies in countries where governments care how bad they are for the ecosystem.
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  • Posted Sat Mar 4, 2006 6:25 pm
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Then how in hell does one wrap up a sandwich?
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it's way tougher to put them apart... Useless, I prefer the AH version.

I'll second that. Distinguishing eras in play is important and these don't do the job out of the box. Stick to counters.
 
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4. Board Game: Starfarers of Catan [Average Rating:6.81 Overall Rank:457]
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Starfarers of Catan is Settlers moved into space on steroids. It comes with a ton of plastic bits, but of course the most ludicrously overproduced bit is the rocket ships. These things are basically dice but instead we have 8" tall rockets with beads inside that you shake up. How crazy is that? If the stuff in the box is not enough for you, you can also buy painted miniatures of all the various races. Not that they do anything. They just kind of stand around and look cool.
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For those who don't know the game, I just wish to point out that the motherships serve not only as dice, but also to keep track of ship upgrades, by means of various attachments. Not that it couldn't have been made with a small player board and cardboard pieces... But then it wouldn't have been so cool, of course.
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Cock and ball torture? surprise
 
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the ships are flimsy, but the publishers must know this, since they have sent me replacements when asked without giving me grief.
 
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Yes, I had to go and check that too. Hmm...


Yes me too.

Who writes this phrase so often that they need to shorten it?
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Don't forget the expansion set to get 6 players!
 
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5. Board Game: Twilight Imperium (third edition) [Average Rating:7.82 Overall Rank:26]
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Of course Twilight Imperium had to be on this list. Just look at the picture - all that STUFF you get. This is the game that introduced Fantasy Flight's new giant $80 game box full o stuff. It was soon to be followed up by...
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This is certainly one of the most lavishly produced board games I've ever seen.
 
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I'd say this one in not OVERproduced. It just comes with what you need to play it. More descriptive words would be: massive, epic, expensive; but not overproduced.
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This game does not belong (as much) on this list. Most of the pieces are just functional cardboard, though attractive. If anything, the little plastic ships are underproduced, because it's not always easy to tell the ship types apart.

It is of course way too big and takes for-frigging-ever to play.
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Not overproduced - to my mind
just heaps of the coolest spaceship miniatures I have ever seen in a boardgame -cool
I just like it as it is.
And I'd sure like to see an expansion or two with other miniatures
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What part of EPIC don't u understand? This game is great (time consuming) and definately not overproduced, maybe over-conceived, but not overproduced...
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6. Board Game: Descent: Journeys in the Dark [Average Rating:7.54 Overall Rank:77]
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Descent! When you open the huge box up, you discover that like 2/3 of it is just space to hold all the miniatures. Sure, they could have used counters or little reasonable sized minis. But instead you get these GIGANTIC "miniatures" (almost an oxymoron). The most ludicrous of them all is the dragon with the huge wingspan. Just check out the picture of it!
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Although I love this game, I was amazed at the empty space in the box. shake
 
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I have this game, it kicks butt!
 
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Crazy part is are all the counters solely dedicated to *bookkeeping*.

At least an optional character sheet would have been nice...!

aka. Washu! ^O^
 
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I just bought this, it weighs a ton, I had to manhandle it home on the train from work, can't wait to play it.
 
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The big box is to hold all the expansions in. Of course they actually don't fit, so I end up carrying around two of the expansion boxes as well, one to hold all the mini's, and one to hold all the game tiles.
I love this game, wish I could find more players to play.
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7. Board Game: Doom: The Boardgame [Average Rating:7.02 Overall Rank:344]
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Of course, we can't forget about Descent's baby brother, Doom. This is the game the introduced the giant miniatures. The most overproduced bit of this game is that not only do you get these huge minis, but each player gets his own color coded set.
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A lot of work for the Invader player (always me). I must like over-produced games, is WAR OF THE RING on this list?
I'll bet it is, now I must keep reading.
 
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80mm Cyberdemon... that one was the "wow" for me. surprise
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That demon (in two pieces!) never fails to impress.

For best results, don't take him out for the others to see, keep him bagged seperately. The first time they hit that last room he's in....boom, lasting impression of that particular game session forever and ever.
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The most overproduced bit of this game is that not only do you get these huge minis, but each player gets his own color coded set.

Actually, I like that, since the invader player's monsters are limited based on the number of marines in play. It's far more difficult to "accidentally" go over the limit when the soblue gulp marines can point and say "Umm... why's that one red?"
 
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Descents OLDER brother.
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Descents OLDER brother.


Haha, I was just about to comment on this

Exactly, Decent is the baby brother, DOOM rules supreme.

(It took my gaming group over 10 tries and over like 10 hours (in one gaming session) to beat the introduction level, and even that they barely made it. Now, that's a game)
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8. Board Game: Axis & Allies [Average Rating:6.55 Overall Rank:826]
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Axis & Allies is the grandfather of overproduced games. Who doesn't remember being a kid and seeing this game for the first time? All those miniatures which were almost unheard of back then. The coolest thing about Axis & Allies is how the fighters actually fit on the aircraft carriers. Awesome!
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The continues good sales of this excellent example of the 80's classics is evidence that overproduction was the way to go. This is the usual stepping stone to more involved and less well-produced war games.

A+ 20 years ago and still an A+
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Well, in the basic games as well in the expansions like Russia at War, World at War etc. (the Euro Games series) one does find enough different possibilities and threats, for 2 players upto 6. I arranged several tournaments with A&A, with the suggested rules of Russia's not at attack in the first round, getting in lots of different positions in the over-80 games played, getting 40 Allies wins to 37 Axis and only three games ending tied.
After quite some other War Games experience, I still regard A&A as a good strategic board game. Enough fun to get in played still after 20+ years.
I had an extra suply of all the plastics, and with three more expansions the box can just hold it all, 4 game boards and tons of plastics. Even Russia's got 8 aircraft carriers ;-)
 
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John Collins
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Hmmm

never thought of using A&A as a sorting hat..... good idea.
 
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Alex
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Now that 1940 Europe Edition is released it can be combined to the 1940 Pacific Edition of the same game yielding to a massive 70 inches by 32 board.
450 + 550 units come with the game so you can sit a thousand pieces on top of that beast.

In addition to the traditional fighters seen on the original edition, tactical bombers also can land on (and fit) aircraft carriers.
 
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A&A really does suck as a game, sorry. It is all about playing with toys.

I agree that it is a great gateway game, but chess is probably moreso, chess or go, with their emphasis on positioning. Much of wargaming is all about positioning.
 
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9. Board Game: Sid Meier's Civilization: The Boardgame [Average Rating:5.67 Overall Rank:5067]
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Sid Meier's Civ kind of started the current "arms race" of overproduction in my opinion. Remember all the hype leading up to this game's release? I think they actually cast in miniatures every military unit that has ever existed on Earth. This is one of the more literally "overproduced" games, because the game itself was not particularly well received.
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Three years later, and my fingers are still bleeding.
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Not only do I own this, and have played it, but another of my game group (although WHY, I don't know) owns it as well. We've played this game many times. I'm sorry, but it's true.

As a matter of fact, when two of us were playing a one-on-one game of the LAST game on this list (A&A), we were simultaneously discussing the fact that we needed to play another round of this monster.

Of course, we have some house rules... but none of them changes the game system, or makes it into something else.

There's a GOOD game in there! Sure, it's got its flaws... but why buy another game you HOPE is going to be the game you thought this was when a few simple tweaks will fix the one you already own. Suggestions included in my game rating comment.

Also, there's less dissappointment this way when 'another civ. game doesn't pan out', which I've heard all too often, here.
 
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There's a GOOD game in there!


I also firmly believe in this. And I think that, with a little tweaking WITHOUT changing the rules, this game could become much less stressing.

For example, a clever done income track (like that in A&A) can reduce the bookkeeping. The use of combat cards (with just 3 types, "INF", "CAV" and "ART") could replace that dumb "hide behind any screen (not included in this game) your selected unit" rule AND bring a lot of useful information to the user (like how many dice, attacking power, cost, strong vs./ weak vs., etc). Painting the units bases with the era colour (green, purple, yellow, red) can ease a lot the purchasing proccess...

I really like this game, the idea, the production values, the sense of building something big and unique, it's so sad the poorly conceived finishing of the rules make that come for such a high price.

 
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This game just kind of makes me sad. My wife and I picked it up thinking that it was going to be God's personal gift to us. And we pulled it out, and we read copious rules, we re-read those same rules to make sure we had them, we punched bits, we trimmed spars, we bagged pieces, we set up and we played. And it was good.

And we played again a week later, and it was still good but not as good.
About 4 games in we realized that the secret to victory was taking all the Gems and Wine like homeless people fighting over a hamburger. There is a seperation in life between the haves and the have-nots. That pretty much killed it for me.
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I purchased this game 4 or 5 years ago because I thought it would be a good game. I opened the box only to find 500 pieces....and that was the end. To this day I have not played this game because there are way to many pieces.
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10. Board Game: Dread Pirate [Average Rating:5.17 Overall Rank:7539]
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Sure, we'll just follow up with an even more lame game that's got amazing bits. Check this thing out. It's got pewter ships, metal doubloons, glass gems, a cloth map, and a wooden treasure box. I think this was the first of Front Porch Classics' games. They've followed up with a whole line, all of which are amazing to look at. I think the doubloons really put this one over the top.
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I think they're hoping that people will think they're getting their money's worth on this lame game if they consider the price per pound shake

OTOH, we'll be able to pick up some nice bits for use in other games when these anchors are priced to move after the holidays ninja
 
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I picked this up at borders because it looked cool and I wanted to try a different boardgame. This was of course before I knew BGG existed otherwise I wouldn't have wasted my money after reading some reviews. I've been thinking about putting the cloth map to use with ships and rules from the Pirates of the Spanish Main and it's expansions. Instead of measuring movement with card edges one could easily do it using the square hexes on the map. Treasure to plunder could be set up in the Dread Isle i'm pretty sure it could work with some rule variants.
 
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Games like this make me sad. The components are awesome, and deserve a better game to make them worthwhile.
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Sadly the gameplay itself is a bit shoddy, but i recieved this box (the nice wooden one) for christmas, and we play it simply to pull it out.

Its absolutely beautiful. I did modify it a bit though, replacing the round "gems" with actual gem-shaped gems from the local craft store. I think with a little bit of clever re-thinking, the game could actually be quite fun. Sadly its impossible to enjoy because its so stinking poorly thought out.
 
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Oddly enough the cards that come with this lavishly overproduced game are thin and cheap. The ones in the better version (with more cards and cheaper bits) has better card quality.
 
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11. Board Game: Abtei der wandernden Bücher [Average Rating:7.52 Unranked]
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We have a winner!

Thomas Fackler has a few games that cost over $1000. Gold, brass, stone, parchment, leather, woods and other non-card/plastic materials go into the production of his hand crafted games.

http://www.zeitstein.de/
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Man, I'd like to see this one up close. That is, without the need to shell out a grand...
 
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Gamers on a budget should snap up Fackler's Die Mauer, a smart little bluffing game, or Nasenspiel, a neat tile game you nose you'll like.
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50 copies at $1000 apiece.

Or in this case, 200 copies @ €2600.

(See bottom of

http://www.zeitstein.de/abtei.html

for price.)

They even have a play marketing the game:

http://www.zeitstein.de/grossabtei.html
 
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This was the first one that came to mind when I saw the title

And you used to be able to play it most years at Essen - I did, and it's a quite good game

Made with wood & cardboard, maybe £20, and I would buy it
 
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12. Board Game: Outrage! Steal the Crown Jewels [Average Rating:4.75 Overall Rank:7560]
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Not quite. Those games pale in comparison to the deluxe edition of Outrage! Steal the Crown Jewels. This game crosses into the realm of pure insanity. It costs 7,995 pounds! The pieces are hand sculpted out of gold and silver and encrusted with diamonds, rubies, emeralds, and sapphires. In fact, the Guinness Book of World Records lists it as the world's most expensive board game.
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Here's a picture of some of the playing pieces:

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Wouldn't a high dollar GO board, stones and bowls go for a LOT higher than this? One could spend more than $20,000 on top-notch handcrafted equipment!
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!! I didn't know this carried a price tag like this!
I bought a portable version from a charity shop for £1.50; you need an electron microscope to see the pieces and, frankly, the game is dull and unending
 
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Actually it's not even close to beeing the most expensive board game out there: http://www.charleshollandercollection.com/backgammon.html
 
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Real fancy go boards can go up to $20.000. Not to mention gold encrusted antique gobans going for 100k (http://everything2.com/title/goban
 
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13. Board Game: Antiquity [Average Rating:7.89 Overall Rank:98]
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Splotter is known for overproduction, and this one has an insane amount of stuff in its box... gazillions of chits for food (5 types I think), gold, bricks, luxuries (4 types?), pollution, graves, dozens of buildings, terrain maps, cities, inns, etc. And worker blocks.

To top it off, the game box, the rules, and especially hte player aids are gorgeous to behold and evocative of the theme.

Probably the same goes for the famous "Roads and Boats".
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Roads and boats is even worse...
 
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Yes, these games have a lot of components. But they need them. And the components are functional at best in R&B, and both functional and attractive in Antiquity. But overproduced? No.
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This is just a bunch of punched cardboard. Definitely not overproduced.
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ixnay66 wrote:
This is just a bunch of punched cardboard. Definitely not overproduced.


Have to agree with ixnay here. Punched cardboard is not overproduced, regardless of how much of it you have (if it's functional.)

Overproduced is including prepainted minis when cardboard chits could suffice. Overproduced is including silver and gold coins when paper money could suffice. Antiquity is big and expensive, but it's not overproduced.
 
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Yeah, I would say this game is poorly produced and overpriced. All quantity, very low quality.
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14. Board Game: Broadsides and Boarding Parties [Average Rating:5.98 Overall Rank:3043]
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I think this is the king of overproduced games. Two giant ships, with "damagable" masts, cannons, pirates and jolly captain. Then you have little plastic ships to sail around on the board.

In reality this is a card driven game along the lines of Wings of War or Wreckage. Port damage chips and Starboard damage chips were really all that was necessary. The Boarding party part of the game is fun, but usually you just do it to clean up the mess that is left of you opponent.
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In our games someone would invariably knock against the table and the pirates would fly all over. They were hard to keep standing.
 
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IIRC the decking was tilted, except in the middle section. Sneeze and pirates go flying everywhere. Or better, get El Gato the Pirate Hunter to jump on the table and swat a few cannon around. Voila, instant smart bomb!
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We used to set up the ships in my parents hallway and shoot rubber bands at them.... great fun... we actually played the game a few times too.

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Rubber bands is fairly normal. I think everyone agrees the original rules were terrible, and most people made up their own games... I know my friends used the Shark counters from Survive and made it into more of a miniatures skirmish game.
 
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That DOES look like fun, though. More of a toy, really.
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15. Board Game: Nin-Gonost [Average Rating:6.45 Unranked]
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Now let's step back into the realm of reality. This is a miniatures game, so it sort of doesn't count. Great components are just part of the package. But this one comes in a wooden carrying box complete with paints and paintbrushes. That's neat and all, but what sets this game apart is the magnetic tiles. Not only are they sculpted plastic, but they all have little magnets inside of them so that that lock together. Very cool.
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Here's where "overproduced" is used literally... the production values would be appreciated if the game weren't so excruciatingly vile.
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I know someone who bought a bunch of the tiles for D&D Dungeon crawls.
 
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Not to mention at Origins this year, I made the mistake of looking at their booth for five seconds....


The guy standing at the booth dragged me bodily to their demo area, and demanded 6 bucks to play in their demo/tournament to win a box set.


Hey if Battle for MacCragge is 45 bucks, screw your 150.
 
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The updated (revamped) rules make the game playeable! Too bad the company is gone!! Was able to to get many xtras for the game which I really like to play with the boys!
 
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16. Board Game: Heroscape Master Set: Rise of the Valkyrie [Average Rating:7.38 Overall Rank:146]
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No list of overproduced games would be complete without the amazing Heroscape. It's a miniatures game, but all the minis come prepainted. The defining feature of Heroscape, however, is the interlocking plastic terrain tiles. They come in a variety of landscapes including grass, sand, water, rock, and even "hot lava death". People buy multiple sets of this game and create some enormous landscapes. Check the one out in the picture.
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... and if the rumored castle ever is released, I expect another wave of fanboys would leap into this for the bits alone.
 
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Yeah...like I could resist buying a castle for this game.


Heroscape...you had me at "Grimnak". You had me at "Grimnak".
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I got my kicked at this recently. I spent the last half hour of the "game" trying to get the miniatures back into their little (haha) packing tray while my partner prolonged the agony of defeat.

Let's just say this is the king of miniatures AND the king of inadequate storage: what psycho in manufacturing thought that box was adequate? First you have to figure out where the miniatures go back to in that totally unlabelled generic plastic-inject-molded sheet, then you have to try and get various (multitudinous!) hexes back into the box. We had an inch left over when all was said and done, but perhaps we were too old (over fourty) to figure out the packaging?

Am I bitter? you bet!
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I don't think it was ever intended to go back into the plastic. If all you've got is the basic set, you can still use the box for storage, though. (not me, I've got a big damn tub now, and that's already starting to overflow)

1. Take the wings off mimring.
2. Pack all the terrain as tight as it will go (bricks the size of two big terrain pieces should do it).
3. pack the miniatures in tight.
4. cut the top off the box on three sides, to give a little more space on the top.

That should hold you until you get some expansions.
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17. Board Game: Battleball [Average Rating:6.35 Overall Rank:1155]
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Before there was Heroscape there was Battleball. This introduced the prepainted minis you find in Heroscape. It also comes with two sets of color coded polyhedral dice. But my favorite item is the football which is made of chrome plated zinc. Who thought of that one?
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Best of all, this comes at a price of $5.29 from Amazon. (or at least it was when I got it).

Should be nice to marvel at the bits when my kids open it on Christmas.
 
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Funny thing is this is more fun than GW's overblown, over rated BloodBowl. Ill take it any day


Not a chance!

Nuffle for ever!
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I have just found and started playing BattleBall - I think it so rocks, I am loving it. We are using the advnaced rules posted by Mr. Bistro and they add so much to the game without changing the rules, makes itmore like American football verses the rugby feel the actual rules have.
Great mini's also

A game you can set up in a minute and be playing rocks, for non gamers getting someone to play a game that is about football and has a football field and can be learned in under 2 minutes is great

The bummer is I never got a chance to buy them for $5- $8 with out shipping being added on, oh well. A great game all said and done.


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Goodwill find : $1.99. Not too shabby.

 
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Okay, here's one of the many reasons Bloodbowl trounces Battleball: in Battleball, you can only move one guy per turn, and he moves by rolling a die. Is that what football is like? Does the guy with the ball run past the whole other team and only one guy tries to stop him? Does he move 1 yard one minute and suddenly sprint twenty yards the next, then back to 3?
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18. Board Game: Khet: The Laser Game [Average Rating:6.74 Overall Rank:640]
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All I'm going to say about this game is that it comes with frickin' LASERS!
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But no sharks.... All I asked for was friggin' sharks with laser beams attached to their heads...
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If I had this game I would seriously bring a little dry ice to the table during play.
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You can't kill anyone with the lasers, so I'd call it underproduced.
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Wow, really? I bet you can, I'm a doctor
 
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I think, for what the game has to do, there's really no other way to accomplish it.
 
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19. Board Game: Bloody Mary: Further Intrigue in the Tudor Court [Average Rating:6.38 Unranked]
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My personal favorite in this category is Kaliko, the wooden version of Psyche-Paths from Kadon. Almost everything else on this list is about more, more, more. More bits, more detail, more variety. Kaliko goes in the other direction -- it has very simple, but oh-so-elegant wooden tiles. Sure, they could have made the tiles out of cardboard and sold the game for $15. Instead, the wooden tiles push the price tag close to $100. But the feel and sound of the wooden tiles is sooooooo much more satisfying than cardboard...
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Ooh, that's not the right game number! That should be
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/4178

More on topic, high end go states have the same flavor: oh-so-simple, oh-so-elegant, oh-so-expensive.
 
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In the first Kadon edition of Kaliko, the tiles were clear acrylic, not wood. They're gorgeous, especially if you're playing on a glass table. Which, oddly, I was already planning to do today before I saw this entry.
 
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I believe the blue squiggles represent England's naval power at the time of Mary's coronation, the white indicate undercurrents of Protestant revolt, and the red shows the current level of persecution. Clearly, a very conceptually dense game.
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I believe the blue squiggles represent England's naval power at the time of Mary's coronation, the white indicate undercurrents of Protestant revolt, and the red shows the current level of persecution. Clearly, a very conceptually dense game.


I can't stand those pasted-on themes.
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Ironic that Bloody Mary is a free print-and-play - opposite end of the spectrum of over produced.
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Wooden tiles are ordinary. I have the version with plexiglass tiles. Nice!
 
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20. Board Game: Crossbows and Catapults [Average Rating:6.43 Overall Rank:1791]
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Who can forget the venerable Crossbows and Catapults? Not only do you get a bunch of cool bits, you also get the launch them at your friends. You'll shoot your eye out!
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This is more of a toy (a GREAT ONE!) so I wouldn't say it's over producted.
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ARRGH! I know no less than FIVE people who own this, and not ONE set is complete enough to play a game. I suspect that many of the pieces are residing beneath a couch cushion or lost forever in the LEGO bin along with the odd army guy, tinkertoy or lincoln log.
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I got a complete set! My Bro and I had a whole bunch of house rules for this as a kid. I still play this if given the chance.

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21. Board Game: Sunda to Sahul [Average Rating:6.07 Overall Rank:2755]
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Here's a simple tile laying game. Sure, the designer could have made the tiles out of cardboard like everyone else. But instead he made them out of some kind of space age wood/laminate.
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... smelly wood/laminate, as I recall.
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Agree that this was quite appropriately produced. There are One of the most unique games I am fortunate enough to own. It's a 136-piece jigsaw that will get played around with more often than plain jigsaw puzzles would.
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Darn it people!!! I'm reading this at EuroQuest, and there's a copy of this on GameSurplus's table right now... You aren't making it any easier on me!
 
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Buy it. There's nothing else on the market quite like this game...well, some argue it's not a game.

And my copy is a few years old and it still smells.
 
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Of course, I broke down and bought it. I haven't played it yet.

I think this would be a good game to relax and take your time. I think I will wait until the kitchen table will be free for a while and Terri and I will play it slowly, over the course of several days.
 
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22. Board Game: Star Wars: The Queen's Gambit [Average Rating:7.51 Overall Rank:196]
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It wasn't enough to pack this game full of tons of miniatures. No, they had to go and make a palace with three different levels for them all to fight on. It kind of reminds me of the Death Star toy I used to have when I was a kid. Which also had 3 levels. Coincidence, or not?
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If this doesn't make you feel like a kid, nothing will.
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I saw this in a Swedish game store sale 2003 for 10 bucks. I don´t care for the film, so I didn´t buy. Boy I am regretting it now...cry
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I was impressed with how well the game captures the four simultaneous battles that happen at the end of the film in to one action-packed game.
 
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Everything falling all over the place onto the floor to get tread on, the whole palace structure collapsing... still a pretty darn good game.
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Cool game, but I've decided this too late to get one at a reasonable price. This game is pure excitement, unlike the actual movie. (Is there a geeklist for "Games Better than the Movies they are Based on?")

If there is one thing "overproduced" here, it's the second level of the palace. It's just about always bypassed anyway.
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My only regret is that I didn't buy a second copy of this game, as its value is increasing. I like to take it around to conventions I go to and constantly get badgered by people who want to buy it.

For those of you with sets that the palace is falling apart on you while you are playing, just squeeze a bit of "poster putty" into the corner stantions where the floor tiles fit in. This will help it hold together while playing but can still be easily taken apart without damaging the cardstock.
 
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23. Board Game: Cosmic Encounter [Average Rating:6.99 Overall Rank:361]
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Here's one that sadly fits into the literally overproduced category. I'm talking about the recent Avalon Hill edition. Instead of the boring old paper discs we get molded plastic aliens and a colorful board. Unfortunately, in focusing on all the cool bits they neutered the game by leaving out the ability for 5+ players and a whole bunch of special powers. They just had to have those space ships that do nothing but carry aliens to the warp, didn't they?
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Does any of that add to play value? No, but it probably added to the price. What effect do you think that had on game sales?
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Should have never sold my Mayfair edition.....but I did get compensated VERY well for it...so I can't bitch. I miss it sometimes.
 
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I was a longtime CE fan already when AH released this at GenCon. I sat down and listed to the Peter Olotka complain about how overproduced it was. Played a few games with him though and that was fun but it was pretty clear from listening to him that the chances for the expansions weren't likely.
 
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We play CE on our lunch break at work a lot. The person who owns the set(s) has (I believe) just about everything ever produced for the game, so we've ended up fusing bits from various editions together.

We use the highly-produced AH board and pieces with two homemade cardboard 'Ghetto Systems' added in (with black and pink wooden cubes as ships) if we have more than 4 players that game. The cards are from an older version (or versions, I think) and have been put into card protectors with Bicycle playing cards as backers so you can't tell what card is what from the wear on it or style of card back. It makes the various piles huge and shuffling a challenge, but we like it - the crash-built feel of our stuff with the polished AH board and ships is an amusing contrast, and personally I greatly prefer playing the cubes for the simple reason I hate fumbling the ships into the carriers.

I also managed to seek in a victory once because nobody counted my harder-to-see black cubes amidst the taller AH pieces and everybody who could cheerfully allied with me to aid me in gaining my fifth base. I didn't realize myself until time to lay the cards down, and I remember wondering if I should throw the challenge or risk getting lynched...

Worked out OK though - I work with a really cool group of guys.
 
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Man this was a depressing release. It is the MOST overproduced version of CE ever, and it's the VERY WORST soblue

This game makes me sad to think about.
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24. Board Game: Java [Average Rating:7.08 Overall Rank:307]
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Where did they even find the cardboard to make the tiles in this game? I've never seen tiles this thick in any other game. It must have taken quite a machine to punch these suckers out. That's also one of the nicest photographs on the Geek.
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I love Java, but I don't think the bits are actually overproduced in this one...they are incredibly thick because the game plays in 3 dimensions and the thickness makes it easy to tell at a glance how tall a given area of the board is.

I might add that the machine used to punch the tiles was a little dull by the time it got to my copy since I had to use a razor blade to cut the tiles out...peh.
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I was sitting waiting for a bus in Portland, Oregon, and a woman next to me turned to me and asked...."Do you like coasters?"

Oddly enough, I have a coaster collection.

Somewhat thrown off by the unconventional conversation opener I replied..."Well...yeah, actually I do."

She proceede to pull out a number of sets of fine ceramic coasters and offered to sell them to me, at which I surmised she had stolen them, and was looking for some, what, meth money?

I declined. But the moment still feels warm to me.
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Monday Bio wrote:
I was sitting waiting for a bus in Portland, Oregon, and a woman next to me turned to me and asked...."Do you like coasters?"


"Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?" surprise
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Those little mats you put your beer on? We call them beer mats!
 
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Monday Bio wrote:
I was sitting waiting for a bus in Portland, Oregon, and a woman next to me turned to me and asked...."Do you like coasters?"

And people wonder why Portland's unofficial slogan is "Keep Portland Weird".
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25. Board Game: Niagara [Average Rating:6.59 Overall Rank:637]
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Niagara is a little family game about boats moving up and down a river collecting gems. The first thing that catches your eye is the awesome plastic gemstones. So many games use glass beads as gems, but these things actually look like gemstones. However, the most amazing thing about this game is that the box converts to the game board and the boats ride on these clear plastic discs. Each turn you give the discs a push and the whole river moves downstream. Boats at the end fall of the "waterfall" (the edge of the game box).
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It still creeps me out that you have to turn the box cover over and place the open end down. That is a big no no where I come from. More lids are ruined that way...
 
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Maybe you should hang the board over the end of the table and with a basket to catch the falling pieces. The short fall is kind of anti-climatic anyway.
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Do I have to think of everything for you? Go buy a piece of felt to put down on the table 1st. Not only will it protect your box but it keeps components from sliding around (RotH, Catans, Heroscape, etc). Felt and plexi-glass (over boardgames like Memoir, Power Grid, all wargames to keep everything in place) don't play games without it.
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Too bad their ain't much game behind the pretty bits and board.
 
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Jason Ciaramella
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Awesome list Robert.
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Squad Leader in all its forms just as to be the most over produced game ever. Lots and lots of expansions, loads of maps and counters for just about everything and its still my favourite conflict game of all time.
 
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Might I suggest Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World?
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Stephen Tavener
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I am officially renaming this list "Stephen's Shopping List"
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  • Posted Wed Jan 6, 2010 10:13 am
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Dante Gagne
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I know it's fairly new, but Planet Steam seriously needs to be on this list. The ore pieces are different shapes, but all still worth only one. The tanks are all solid wood, and when you first get it, they're all wrapped individually with foam wrapping.

It's a great game, but it needs to be on this list!
 
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  • Posted Fri Apr 9, 2010 7:32 pm
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