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The check is in the mail.
One size fits all.
This won't hurt a bit.
Your table will be ready in a minute.
Plays 2-6 players.

Ok, we all have a few pet peeves when it comes to gaming. For some of us it's slow players. For others it's those folks who instead of rolling the dice gently on the table fling them so they go rolling off the table every time. For me it's the classic publisher's "plays 2-6 people". It's the gamers version of the check is in the mail.

This is the problem. Most games sell better when they're more flexible on how many people can play them. A strict 4 player game for example has a more narrow appeal than one that can be advertised to play 2-6. So game companies understandably really like it when a game is designed with a very wide range in number of players. However in many cases this results in the classic round peg in a square hole. A designer designs a really good game for 4 or 5 players but then the publisher asks for special rules for 2 players so they can get that desired range.

I actually had one designer (who shall remain nameless) admit to me once on a game that was listed as 2-6 players that he had never even play tested the 2 player rules. He simply wrote them in about an hour for inclusion into the rule book after the publisher requested them.

Ok, this isn't a horrible problem that threatens the entire gaming hobby. Like I said, it's a simple little pet peeve of mine and a minor one at that. However it does often leave people scratching their heads on a game. Yeah, it says it plays 2 plays....but does it really play 2 players or is it a round peg in a square hole?

This list is not about games designed to be played with 2 players. It's a list about popular games designed to be played with 4 or 5 players. Games that also have special rules that allow them to be played with 2 players. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. many I have no idea about because I've never tried to play them 2 player.

The purpose of this list is to help the average gamers who here on BGG sees all these wonderful 4-5 player games but may not have a consistant 4-5 player game group. They would like to play games like Puerto Rico and Caylus but don't know if these popular titles honestly and truly work as 2 players.

So I leave the answers for you. Are these games really good for 2 players or are they round pegs in a square hole?
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1. Board Game: Puerto Rico [Average Rating:8.34 Overall Rank:2]
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Number of Players: 2 - 5

I've only recently been exposed to this game but quickly learned why it's so popular. It's a great strategy game with a very wide appeal. It's also the reason for this this. I've been thinking about playing it with my wife, perhaps this weekend, but I question how well it actually plays as a 2 player game. Looks promising for 2.
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Our Fraser and Melissa love this as 2 player. Me and the Mrs-ho hum. I think for two its sort of like playing you. Sure there are decisions to be made but we found it to have little influence over the other persons decisions. I would play this again as two though but not my first choice

I'm sure the aforementioned couple well give you some positive feedback.
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IMHO this sucks with 2, which in turn sucks because I would love playing this more with just the two of us.
Laura Appelbaum
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I find this game works great with two players and play it that way all the time. It plays *differently* than if you have more players, but that keeps it kind of refreshing.
Gregory John
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My Wife and I enjoy playing this 2-player.
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i mostly play it as a 2 player game. it's great.
2. Board Game: Goa [Average Rating:7.84 Overall Rank:20]
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Number of Players: 2 - 4

Really fun game in my opinion. But 2 players? In my mind this one is a strict 4 player game. I just can't see it played with 2.
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I personally see this as a crappy game, but a friend of mine loves this and is regularly playing this as a 2-player game with his gf.
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My wife and I play this with 2 all the time. It's probably her favorite game.
Lawrence Lopez
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...a fantastic two-player game! Tense, fun and replayable... I think it's best with only 2.
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I totally agree with Ejammer. My wife (Miss Panda) and I love this game 2-player and have gone head to head many times. In fact, if a game says 3-player and more I won't buy it anymore because it won't be cost-effective.


This, I so agree with!

Both in terms of Goa's play and in term's of Jimzik's 3 player floor putting a big nada on my buying a game.

Games must work with 2 players (AND more) to get my cash now-a-days, but--yes--I have broken this rule in a couple of purchases.
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As much as I like the auction, and how it is set up, I find the exploration cards are so unevenly powered they mess up the game, IMHO. You get a good card, it is killer, but they are all not uber-powerful, and some are quite weak, meaning the exploration cards are a critical element of the game, but a crapshoot.

For me, this does not make for a fun game at all.
3. Board Game: Caylus [Average Rating:8.02 Overall Rank:10]
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Number of Players: 2 - 5

I've only played it twice so far and really enjoyed it both times. Played it with 4 players each time but I think this one might actually work with 2.
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Works pretty well with 2.

All you do is not use the stables (turn changes every round) and pay 3 after one player has passed.

However, I'm yet to beat Sue at it with just the two of us. I have a (not unrealistic) problem of being in the inn when it's really no use to me.

Another plus is we can play it in about 45 minutes!
Dan Poole
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I love this with 2, which is good because it consequently gets more play time :)
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Haven't yet played with 5, But have played 2, 3, and 4 and loved all of them. 2 player is much quicker than 4, and the game feels different certainly, but no less great.
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i like it the best with 2. with more than 3 it starts to be too heavy and confusing for my taste.
Jeff Dawson
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I think the game shines with 2. Very tactical game, almost as deep as any 2p game there is. 3+ players and the game is much longer (30+ minutes per player) and a lot more random. Good with any number of players, but I get a lot of griping when playing with more then 3. :(
4. Board Game: Citadels [Average Rating:7.33 Overall Rank:92]
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Number of Players: 2 - 7

I love playing this one with 5 players. What's funny with this one is that someone recently posted on BGG that they love this game and only played it 2 player with their wife. They said they can't imagine how it would play with 4 or 5.
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Always had fun with this as two players. You get to choose two characters and this allows you to create combinations which IMHO adds to the gameplay in a different way then with multiple players.
Michael R
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It is a totally different game if you play it with 2-4 to the game you have with 5-7 players. I think I have noted this before about Citadels. It is interesting how people either like it with fewer players or with more. I prefer it with more.
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This game doesn't work with 7-8 that's for sure, I've never finished a game with that many players. 6 I've never tried. 5 and 4 works, but I love this game with 2 or 3. Yes, it devolves somewhata at 2 players to a game of psychology. But I like it :)

Echoing other comments on this list, this game shines as 3 player.
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I actually am in the camp that enjoys this one more with lower numbers of players. 2 works great!
Daniel Legault
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Very different game with 2 vs more, but its still alot of fun none the less, the having 2 characters adds some interesting trickery that having one just wouldnt do.
5. Board Game: Power Grid [Average Rating:8.22 Overall Rank:3]
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Number of Players: 2 - 6

Ok, I've actually never played this one but I hope that changes some day. I have seen it played a number of time and every time was 4 or 5 players. Does this one work with 2 or is it a round peg in a square hole?
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Works. I've played it twice two player with my wife. More fun with more, but two is playable.
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This one does work with two, but it's much better with 3 or more. One of the things I like about this game is the way the order of priority changes with each round, depending on who has the most cities (or highest level power plant). It really forces you to decide when and how much you want to build. With 2, this element of the game is greatly diminished. Still fun, though.
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Just played with more than 2 for the first time (had 4 people). MUCH better with more.

With 2, I could see how much fun the game could be, and why, but didn't feel it. Very little meaning to the auctions, and the connections weren't being fought over. Found it very dry.

Now with 4, it was awesome. The auctions had alot of meaning, and try being the guy who was moving towards a group of cities, and then gets shut out because the other three just filled them up.

Playable with 2, but not nearly as much fun.
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this is the one where you will see everyone bashing on a 2 player game
Paul Smith
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2 is certainly playable and I have great fun playing it with my girlfriend - this week we played and she beat me out by 24 Elektro in the end, very tight game all round really!

Auctions are not meaningless, as the second player always pays face value, but sometimes victory hinges on the lone 7 power plant available at which point you soon find out who's manuevred into position the best.

I love this game as 2 player, but I *LOVE* it with 4. With 4 players suddenly the possibility of being completely shut out of a city looms large, and the geographical aspect becomes much more important.

The playability of this game at 2 and 4 players is what makes this a perfect 10 for me.
6. Board Game: Louis XIV [Average Rating:7.30 Overall Rank:126]
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Number of Players: 2 - 4

I own this one but haven't had a chance to play it yet. Claims to be 2-4.
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We play this only as a 2-player - so not sure if it is much more fun as a 3+.

However, we still have a good time with this as a 2-player, so we are happy!
Dan Poole
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The dummy player seems to add enough tension to make this a lot of fun for just 2 :)
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i've really only had the opportunity to play this game with two players so far. i enjoy it but i can imagine that it is much better with three or four players. in a two player game, the score is always really tight at the end because neither player has any trouble fulfilling their missions. there are plenty of boards available to win or at least split between two players. its too easy with two people. three or four i think would be fun.

the dummy hand is more of an annoyance than anything. without it of course the two player game would be even less strategic but it is NO substitute for another thinking player.
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this game scales pretty well. I hve played it as 2,3 and 4 player games, and enjoyed them all. the variant works well with 2 player only.
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So far I have only played the 2-player game and we liked it a lot, the dummy player works quite well.
7. Board Game: Revolution: The Dutch Revolt 1568-1648 [Average Rating:7.58 Overall Rank:238]
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Number of Players: 2 - 5

I seriously question this one working with 2.
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At first, I thought the main benefit of the 2 player game was to learn the mechanics of the game as well as see what is possible if your 'allied' factions actually were. In other words, how much could be accomplished through collusion. However, after playing the 2 player version, I now realize that it is actually a very good game as well. Not only does controlling two factions allow for the collusion, it also allows the allied factions to utilize their strengths to overcome their weaknesses. One faction can be focusing on the boardplay while the other focuses on the economical aspects. It's more like a chess match with many more options.

I'm currently playing a 2 player PBeM game of R:DR using Cyberboard (it takes about one week per turn which isn't too bad) and I would play again without hesitation. I'm hoping to start a new one after this game and switch sides with my opponent. It's worth a try if you like the game in the first place.
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This one was terrible with 2 since you have to control two factions each and one faction is omitted. In fact, this game as well as Here I Stand have me questioning their playability. Obviously the ideal amount of players for Revo is 5 (one per faction)...I can't imagine ever getting 5 consenting adults to play a game of this particular theme.
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Also, for those who want a more dynamic game (or complain about the full complement game being too static), the two player game has seen far more conflict and large assaults than I've seen in most other plays.

I've played 2, 4 and 5 player games of R:tDR (which is what the R:DR was supposed to have read above) and they all play well but are very different strategically.
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8. Board Game: San Juan [Average Rating:7.46 Overall Rank:66]
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Number of Players: 2 - 4

This one I know works very well with 2 and is part of the reason why I think Puerto Rico will as well. Someone recently told me that they also bought two copies of this game so to have a bigger game deck. Doesn't effect the game at all but makes for a lot less shuffling with more cards.

I do wish Puerto Rico used the art they have on these cards for the buildings. I've seen where someone has made PR building tiles you can download from BGG featuring the artwork from here.
Nick Fisk
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I like this with 2.

Played it once with more, and didn;t like it half as much!

Penny
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i don't like PR with just 2, but this game is just fine as a 2 player game. in fact I agree this game is better as a 2 player then 3 or 4.
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My wife refuses to play this two player, she doesn't like how it turns into an all out race rather then a development game.


My wife thought the same, so now we play to 15 buildings rather than 12. That made the development aspect come into play more, and she now enjoys it. We just picked 15 without any particular reason, I imagine any number up to 20 or so would work, to give the building advantages a chance to be useful.
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To me this one really only works as a three player game, due to the role selection. As a 4P there's no angst, since most roles will be chosen by someone, and as a 2P the role selection is a bit too obvious and zero sum.
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perfect with 2 - my first 10 times went with 2 players. later playing with 3 or 4 players, i didn't like as much as with 2. a good alternative to play when you aren't enough for Puerto Rico (i don't like it with 2, i like it best with 4)
9. Board Game: The Traders of Genoa [Average Rating:7.45 Overall Rank:78]
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Number of Players: 2 - 5

Just picked this one up but haven't played it. Hearing all the talk about this game being a trading game it makes me wonder if it really works well with 2.
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Doesn't work well with 2 (the essence of the game is no longer present). It's almost an entirely different game with absolutely minimal to zero bribing.
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I've played this with 4 players and with 5 players, and actually think it worked better with 4, but expect it would be worse with 3, and can't even imagine playing it with only 2. Outstanding game, but not for a couple I don't think.
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It's a while since I've played this and have only played it as a 2-player. It worked very well since you don't know how much an item is worth to your opponent. It probably works better with more but the 2-player certainly does not feel like an add-on.
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It's playable with two, but only as a last resort.
10. Board Game: Arkham Horror [Average Rating:7.62 Overall Rank:49]
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Number of Players: 1 - 8

I would think with this one 2 players would more likely mean 2 players playing 2 characters each for 4 characters total. However that still counts.
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My brother & I played this twice this weekend, 2-player. (We won both times, for what it's worth...) I haven't played it with more than 3, so I don't know whether it's better or worse with 2 than with 4-6 players. (This game is "just OK" to me, but my brother likes it a lot.)
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Played this:

once alone with the cats, so playing three investigators, very exciting, and won.

twice with the wife and the cats, so two players with two investigators each, had fun, even more exciting, and won both times.

once with six players, found concentration waning, and we lost to the Old One, in an almost anti-climatic endgame, to boot.

I think it works very well with two players.
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I enjoy playing games of this with two, but I have one quibble with the setup. If both players are combat oriented, the battle with the Ancient One can potentially become very easy for the investigators. In a game with four or more players there will usually be one or several characters without as much combat talent, or without the necessary trophies, clues, etc., leading to a much more desperate battle.

I feel that the final battle should be almost impossible if it occurs, not an opportunity for Jenny to get some new Yig skin boots. goo
Daniel Legault
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I always thought this might not work 1 player, but after hearing so much I'm getting more and more drawn to picking this game up.
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Played this three times in the last couple weeks, with two players playing one investigator each. Killed Ithaqua, killed Nyarlathotep, sealed six gates against Yog-Sothoth. With two, there are plenty of clue tokens to go around, and the streets don't get totally choked with monsters even if you totally ignore them (the limit is 5). And the Ancient One's difficulty scales with player number, so this is completely doable.
11. Board Game: Fury of Dracula [Average Rating:7.38 Overall Rank:108]
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Number of Players: 2 - 5

Here's a game that I think works better with fewer players and yes it does work with 2...sort of. The problem with this game with 5 is hunters can get bored. If your hunter is out at sea there isn't much for you to do so you move and then watch other players as they do encounters and such. I've noticed 5 player games tend to move slowly.

With 3 players however each player plays 2 hunters and always has things to do each round. I think this game definately works best with 3.

The game plays the same with 2 but it leaves the hunter player with 4 characters to run and that's a bit much for one person.
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Never had a problem with this as two player. Quite fun actually going mano e mano. Is there a politically correct alternative for this pharse?;)
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I haven't played with only 2P yet, but I would imagine *Dracula*, not the hunters, would be the bored party. Much less to do, and not much to fiddle around with during downtime.
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I would think Dracula would be just as bored regardless of the number of players, since the same number of hunters are used. Anyhow, I like being the Dracula player regardless of the downtime :)
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Voynix,

I should have phrased that more carefully. I've played this once, and *really* liked it--I'll be playing again this Saturday. The group of (3) hunters I played against did a lot of talking, scheming, working out possible routes Dracula could have taken, etc. My comment was based on this (limited) experience--were I the only the hunter-player, I would simply use all four hunter to pursue Dracula according to whatever strategy I was employing. (i.e., no need to convince the other hunters that my plan is the best plan, no need to discuss the merit of some choices vs. others, etc.)
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Interesting, I would have thought this would have been brutal 2 players... I can see the dracula player spending most of his time waiting on one player. Half the fun of playing dracula is sitting back and watching people try to figure out that crazy move you just pulled.
12. Board Game: Ticket to Ride [Average Rating:7.55 Overall Rank:51]
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Number of Players: 2 - 5

Never played this. Never even seen it played. However it's a popular game so I've included it. Seems obviously a 4-5 player game from the game photos and description. Does it still work with only 2?
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I actually enjoy this as a 2 player. The Europe edition works well also. There are some interesting decisions you need to make sometimes as you only have a single path to use where 4-5 players may use the double paths. This is especially so if you pick up tickets in the same area or close by. With 3 players it is even more congested.

Ramón Pardellas Luis
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Ticket to Ride and Europe are ok to have some fun with 2, but much better with 3 or more.

Märklín edition improve a lot the game for 2 players...I don´t know if works better with 3 or more too.
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Works great 2 players, nice and entertaining and still fairly well balanced. Tactics have to be adapted, obviously, but it's still a stimulating and interesting challenge.
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Just tried Belgium and Cuba (printed from DoW website and pasted on large sheets), which both are much smaller and tighter than the original maps and they work much better for two players with a lot of (un-)intentional blocking.
Daniel Legault
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I usually play this with 2 people, it works just as well as with more players to be honest.
13. Board Game: Thurn and Taxis [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:119]
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Number of Players: 2 - 4

A new game on the market that I expect I'll be playing at my Thursday night game group soon. Saw a copy of it a few days ago and really liked the artwork on it. Obviously designed as a 4 player game but it looks like it might work with 2.
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This is a great new release.

However, after several plays I have a horrible feeling it might become a little same-y.

Another new release that I keep plugging is .... no wait, I'll add it later on :D
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That's interesting, Nick, as this one has had, more or less, rave reviews at GoF.

I take your views seriously as we have often had similar tastes - when it comes to Euros anyway.

(Hope to get to your Games meet, btw, but can't commit right now)
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Don't get me wrong ... this is a great game.

I received this and Masons at the same time, and played them one after the other.

I came away thinking that they were both excellent games, but Thurn and Taxis was the better (slightly).

However, with each consecutive play, T&T has proved a very similar experience, while Mason has just improved.
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a great game, but works better with 3 or 4. you can play it with 2 to get intimate with the details or to introduce somebody else. but you play side by side. it's not interesting to get into conflict - better try another coup while your opponent invest his resourses in his object.
14. Board Game: Carcassonne [Average Rating:7.52 Overall Rank:58]
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Number of Players: 2 - 4

Never played it but from the looks of it I expect it works rather well with just 2.
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Yes, it does. thumbsup
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Play primarily with 2; have played with more. This is a game that gets "lighter" and more luck driven with increasing numbers of players. With 2 you can count on getting 1/2 of the tiles, so by memorizing the tile mix it becomes a Go-like connecion cutting game. More adds a risk-like social aspect to the game, though (I'll give you a cookie if you don't close my farm).
martina hellmich
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at its best with 2.
Daniel Legault
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I think it works great with any number of people, I actually like it more with 2 or 3 players, less chaos with less people but also alot less friendly ;)
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