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OK I bit the bullet and renamed and updated this list. It is now a list of games that are waiting to be played at our house (well excluding many old wargames that aren't likely to be played soon). For a game to be considered to be played it must be played face to face and the logging of the play must have occurred since late 2003, which was when I started logging plays on BGG. Some of these games were played prior to that cutoff date, some of them a lot of times, but they don't count for this list.

With two small children (six eight nine and onethreefour), we generally can only find time for the two player games, for those requiring more players finding time is a little bit harder - however we do manage it occasionally, we probably manage to get game playing adults over on average once a fortnight.

My adjusted yardstick is at least two plays before it gets marked as Played, because for non-trivial games the first play is usually just a learning game.

Now using Played, F Played and M Played depending on both played, Fraser has played or Melissa has played.

The list is in no particular order and could be considered by some to be a little esoteric.

We're interested in suggestions of which we should try next and also how many times any particular game should be played to get a decent feel for how good or bad the game is and to have a decent idea of how to play it.

14-Feb-2004 - Renamed list and made significant modifications to the items it may be a bit "under construction" for a while. This has probably sent a few comments that other kind people had added to the original version of the list down to Davy Jones' locker - sorry.

21-Feb-2004 Added details of companion list. now removed as it was not being updated.
18-Mar-2004 Added Mutiny
05-Apr-2004 Removed Ninja Burger, updated age of daughter the younger, added Age of Steam expansion, Armada and Puerto Rico comments.
17-May-2004 Minor updates to some comments here and for Pirate's Cove and Puerto Rico.
24-May-2004 The slow boat from the USA arrived with Tigris & Euphrates, Amun Re and El Grande to add to the shelves.
05-Nov-2004 I really should update this more! Removed Pirate's Cove, Puerto Rico and Euphrat & Tigris and added Die Macher, Civilization and Finstere Flure.
14-Aug-2005 Removed Finster Flure, El Grande and Amun Re added Vinci, Monkeys on the Moon, Penguin Ultimatum and Lunar Rails
26-Feb-2007 Time for a bit of a revisit, revamp and revitalisation given the new GeekList system.
22-Jul-2007 Went though and added a bunch more
18-Aug-2007 It was ConVic 6 last week and there were some really good prices (I'm not even counting the games that we have played previously).
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1. Board Game: A Game of Thrones [Average Rating:7.54 Overall Rank:69]
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Game of Thrones - Based on comments, reviews etc. here at BGG both my wife and I put this on our wishlists.

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2. Board Game: Age of Steam [Average Rating:8.02 Overall Rank:13]
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Age of Steam - I am sure I will like it. Probably a bit too long for our normal 2-3 hour gaming evenings though. The expansions seem very hard to get in Australia - should I import?

05-Apr-2004 update - My local games shop imported expansion #1 for me, the main Australian distributors don't actually bother to import this. The lovely person at the shop suggested in future I import it myself and gave a couple of options to use since it cost AUS $40!

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3. Board Game: The Princes of Florence [Average Rating:7.90 Overall Rank:14]
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The Princes of Florence - Based on reviews and comments we should both like this.

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This is loads of fun, and once we played the rules correctly our group loved it. The first time we played we didn't include cards in our hands towards the total points for a completed work. We were wondering why no one could meet the minimum work value :0. Once again, Kramer's action point system pops up in this one and makes for some agonizing decisions. There is some player interaction thrown in with the auctions that round this game out nicely. This one can't really be played with 2, so you will have to round up a friend or, even better, try to teach your 2 small children :).
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Interesting, we missed exactly the same rule the first time we played.
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You must play this right away... it's extremely cool. The more players the merrier, though, so try and dig up the full funf fursten.
4. Board Game: Mammoth Hunters [Average Rating:6.23 Overall Rank:1232]
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Mammoth Hunter - Still in its shrink wrap. The pieces look cute though.
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I've had a very disappointing reaction to this. I've played it three times with different groups and never managed to interest anyone in a second game. I don't mind it, but it certainly hasn't set the gaming world on fire.

Live and learn...
5. Board Game: Carcassonne - King & Scout [Average Rating:6.67 Unranked] [Average Rating:6.67 Unranked]
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Carcassonne King & Scout - A gaming Christmas present my wife got. Isn't this just *the cutest* little box?

We haven't played it yet. We have both Carcassonne and Hunters and Gatheres, so could play either when we get around to it.
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I have played 'king' once, and didn't like it much.
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Just play with the tiles and not the rules. Everyone likes weird new tiles, right?
6. Board Game: Atlanteon [Average Rating:5.92 Overall Rank:2228]
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Atlanteon - This will probably be the next quick two player one we try. It looks like it will be a quick and simple game.
05-Mar-2004 - This just keeps getting bumped down the priority list. Bohnanza, Balloon Cup, Lost Cities, Carcassonne, Carcassonne: The Castle and Settlers the Card Game have all beat it off the shelf, some of them many times.
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16-Oct-2003 Actually picked up Lost Cities in the mean time so this has been bumped down the list slightly.
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This game has the distinction of being the one game I thought was absolutely miserable and disgusting in terms of its components as "Revolution", and yet when it was rethemed and put out by FFG, it got even more disturbingly unplayable. Yes, aesthetics *do* count, don't let 'em tell you any different.
7. Board Game: Armada [Average Rating:5.30 Overall Rank:4992]
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Armada - Only played it once so far and that was without the optional rules. Next game I think we will include the optional rules. Haven't decided between open piracy against the other players vs the exploit the natives vs a mixture yet.

05-Apr-2004 - Must say now that Pirate's Cove (q.v.) is also sitting on the shelves, this is no chance that this will beat Pirate's Cove onto the table.

26-Feb-2007 - Well it is almost three years later and that statement is as true as it the day it was written!
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I'd still like to give this another try. I enjoyed it, and I think it's a more complex game than Pirates' Cove.
8. Board Game: Die Macher [Average Rating:7.90 Overall Rank:22]
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Die Macher - Melissa speaks German plus there's the English rules available. One day...

17-Jun-2007, another five player game with our copy this time. That makes two, which means it is

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Take it off the list! Take it off the list!

Although was it our copy we played with?
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One play (and it was Doug's copy) is not enough to remove it from this list.
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Do you suppose it would be a good idea for us to speak to one another instead of typing notes on BGG?
9. Board Game: Civilization [Average Rating:7.58 Overall Rank:65]
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Civilization - Only one thing, the time. With Daughter the Elder and Daughter the Younger there just isn't that much free time in one block :meeple:
10. Board Game: 6 Billion [Average Rating:5.33 Overall Rank:4615]
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6 Billion - Played once a couple of years ago on a friend's homemade board (the original is very artistic, the homemade one is more logical but not at all artistic).
11. Board Game: Java [Average Rating:7.11 Overall Rank:212]
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Java - We like La Citta. We are bound to like this too and it can be played two player. Why is still on the shelf?

[21-Apr-2007] Now that we have got and played Tikal does that mean it is more or less likely that Java will hit the table? Or does mean that hunting down Mexica becomes more important for the completist :devil: ?
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I guess that this has tile placement like La Citta, but it is a much different game. Works well with 2 players as the "analysis paralysis" issue is shortened with fewer players. If you like the action point system, you will enjoy this game. Nice board and artwork, just be careful seperating those thick tiles from the sheets...they can tear easily.
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It's still on the shelf because it's an oddball entry in the series, with some counterintuitive boardplay mixed with a silly little cardgame, adding up to a work that's not as good as Tikal, nor nearly as good as Mexica. (Hey, don't question my opinion, I think those people in your avatar are very lovely.)
12. Board Game: 1830: The Game of Railroads and Robber Barons [Average Rating:7.67 Overall Rank:86]
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1830 - Based on my research I should like this. Possibly a bit long for the normal gaming evening.
13. Board Game: Alan Jones Formula 1 Grand Prix Racing Game [Average Rating:4.50 Unranked]
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Alan Jones Formula 1... - OK have played this but not for more than 10 years I think. I want to play it again just so I can write a review for BGG :)

Played the introductory version with our daughter, still waiting on the "grown-up" version.

[08-Apr-2007] Played the full version with Daughter the Elder. I must say, given the choice between this and {i]Formula Dé it will not be Alan Jones Formula 1 Grand Prix Racing Game very often.

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14. Board Game: Star Munchkin [Average Rating:6.31 Overall Rank:1084]
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Star Munchkin - We have and both enjoy Munchkins (probably helps that we are both roleplayers too).
15. Board Game: Carcassonne - Traders & Builders [Average Rating:7.60 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.60 Unranked]
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Carcassonne Traders & Builders - We've got Carcassonne, the expansion with Bubba (what the big guy is called at our house) Hunters and Gatherers, and The River (don't like the river with two players though, but it came as a freeby with the expansion so can't complain too much).
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This expansion is a must for carcassone I feel.
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This expansion is a must for carcassone I feel.


Yep - totally agree. For me the best of the expansions.
16. Board Game: Catan: Seafarers [Average Rating:7.27 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.27 Unranked]
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Seafarers of Catan - We have and enjoy Catan. Played Seafarers once at a friend's place some years ago.
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The best expansion out of the two, in my opinion. Makes the game larger and a little longer without complicating the elegant simplicity of the base game. The scenarios included are a really good idea as well that add a lot of variety.
17. Board Game: The Seafarers of Catan - 5-6 Player Expansion [Average Rating:7.06 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.06 Unranked]
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Seafarers of Catan 5-6 player expansion - Have to keep the set complete n'est ce pas?
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I bought and enjoyed this when Settlers/Seafarers was our primary game night fare, but with Puerto Rico and others available, I doubt we'll ever get back to this with five players.

It does become a bit of an ordeal setting up and packing away and the game play is a bit long. To be honest, all of the Catan games are now strictly four player for me, but it's nice to have the complete set and a greater choice of player colours - very important!

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18. Board Game: Cranium [Average Rating:5.83 Overall Rank:2492]
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Cranium - Looks better than Trivial Pursuit which still gets a workout on occasions. Definitely in the list of things to play, possibly with the less "serious" gamer crowd. Still shrink wrapped.
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This is one of our "most played" games of the last months...
All my friends love this game (and me too...)
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A very nice game to play with "non-gamers". Try it!
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You realise we've now had this for over 2 years and it's still in shrink, don't you.
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I would actually recommend picking up an extra container of Play Doh before giving this game a try. It comes with some, but it never seems to be enough... and it never hurts to have an extra bit of Play Doh around the house (unless it's been ground into carpeting and then dried out).
19. Board Game: Red Empire [Average Rating:5.82 Overall Rank:3541]
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Red Empire - Melissa acquired this via ebay 05-Mar-2004. A game from her gaming past as she described it. This copy was evidently owned or played by a smoker, a HEAVY smoker. Should come off the shelf after Alan Jones I think :)
20. Board Game: Mutiny! [Average Rating:5.90 Overall Rank:2426]
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Mutiny - A late or delayed arrival birthday present for Melissa. Based on a little research this may be a "love it or hate it" type of game. We both like pirates and both like games so it will be interesting to see.
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Played this once two player. It's not really a very good two player game. It should be better with more players, just not sure how much better.
21. Board Game: Monkeys on the Moon [Average Rating:6.40 Overall Rank:1039]
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Monkeys on the Moon - I got this because the only way to get Penguin Ultimatum (see next entry) was to order it direct from the publisher, so I researched it and decided to add it to the order.
22. Board Game: The Penguin Ultimatum [Average Rating:6.30 Overall Rank:1617]
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Penguin Ultimatum - Unobtainable in Australia and I had been searching for it for ages as a present for a friend, so I ordered it direct from Eight Foot Llama and bundled in an extra copy for us and Monkeys on the Moon too.
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Our copy is coming this week. The movie "March of the Penguins" has given my daughter penguin-fever. And since our millionth re-reading of Mr. Popper's Penguins and a beautifully illustrated non-fiction book/memoir, My Season with Penguins have only fueled rather than quenched the flames, I decided it was time for a penguin game.
23. Board Game: Vinci [Average Rating:7.34 Overall Rank:122]
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Vinci - It was on special, I did the research and it looks like something I will enjoy so I got it.

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24. Board Game: Lunar Rails [Average Rating:6.88 Overall Rank:838]
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Lunar Rails - It was going cheap cheap cheap. I have played some crayon rail games in the past and liked them. How could I resist?
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Oh! I might have to see about hunting this one down. I know Mitch absolutely loves the "Rails" type games, and who could resist a game set on the moon?
25. Board Game: Arkham Horror [Average Rating:6.68 Overall Rank:1129]
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(Yes the original one)I played this once with my regular Call of Cthulhu group years ago and we liked it.

I think it is fair to say it is quicker than the FFG version goo
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Mammoth Hunters needs a few games, we only played twice and are still a little unsure. Settler of the Stone Age was a winner from game one (assuming you already have Catan experience). I played Balloon Cup against my son & we liked it. However every second player on this site seems to be bothered by the lockup problem, you can read up on it there.
Also, how old are your kids? Lately, I get games in mind for them more often than my wife or friends. The suggested ages on boxes aren't neccesarily accurate. For example, my 7 year old understood New England which says 12 & up.
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outing myself here as the wife in question ... you may think we sound like a little slice of domestic heaven, but you've never heard the competition when we play Balloon Cup etc... :-)
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Well, friendly competition is the sauce piquant of a solid relationship.

My Debbie does humor me on occasion with the above games, so I can't complain. To return the favor I'd have to go to church or start crocheting, neither of which I have an aptitude for.

Oh, but to play Puerto Rico every night...and lose!
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Renaming and major restructure of this list occurred today. If any of the comments above don't make sense that will be because some played games were removed in the restructure. The fault is mine, not that of the comment makers.
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I got back into board games about 3 years ago. I'm an old time Axis and Allies fan so for the first while I was concentrating on buying war games from the New Avalon Hill and Eagle Games. Not only was my wife not interested in these games, but when I got up to around 10 games she told me that this was getting silly and that I wasting money. She dosen't really have any hobbies so to her it looked like I was just collecting toys.

However, about a year ago we were invited over by one of her friends to play board games for an evening. I was prepared to be bored out of my mind playing something like Scrabble (which I hate). Instead I was pleasantly surprised to see that we would be playing Settlers of Catan. I had heard that it was a good game, but had never played it. I had a great time, and so did my wife. On the way home she told me that if I wanted to add that game to my collection she would approve. I bought it the next week and a whole new era in my gaming hobby life began.

I still play game with my gaming buddies (war games, fantasy games etc) but now I also play games on a regular basis with my wife and another couple we know. We mostly play Settlers, Carcassone (which my wife got as a gift for Christmas), History of the World and other non-wargame type games. However, I recently convinced them to try Risk 2210 and they seemed to like it. Its amazing how my wife's attitude on games changed completely simply because she found one that she liked.
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