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Great Science Fiction Books that have not yet been made into Boardgames or CCGs
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Going through the database on members who share common interests with me , I could not help but notice that many of us geeks have a penchant for a little bit of Science Fiction on the side.robot

Many collectors have Avalon Hill's Dune (Herbert) or Starship Troopers (Heinlein) or even the fantasy based Game of Thrones (Martin) (Boardgame and CCG)

But what other great Sci Fi/Fantasy Books would make excellent Boardgames or CCGS and why?

What central character or theme could stimulate a core mechanic in a game? And What might that mechanic be?

Exercise those sensors and beam down some grey matter and let Geekdom know your thoughts.
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1. Board Game: The Forever War [Average Rating:5.47 Overall Rank:6147]
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Yes, Mayfair released a game covering this Hugo award-winning novel.

No, it did not include the actual, strategic campaign for which Haldeman provided numerous stellar references - enough to actually devise a campaign.

No, the ground combat system that was designed did not impart any feel for the abilities of the powered suits used in combat, nor did it handle any of the long-range or heavy weaponry.

I'd really like to see a game release that does justice to this novel.
 
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This of course is a great book and is based on the author's experience in the Vietnam conflict. One of my favourites.

I was always intigued by the pseudo time travel element and how logistics of warfare could work over century long campaigns.

Now that has potential for a HUGE wargame experience.

 
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I've owned WarpWar even longer than Forever War. It's good enough to be a core engine for the interstellar movement/combat system, yes, but there are other elements that are also needed.
 
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Timelag
Timelag, another old microgame does include some of the elements you'd need, such as the lag in techonology etc etc. Sadly it doesn't include the necessity for calculating time dilation and other relativistic effects!

Given that the point of the novel was that ultimately the was completely pointless, it would be difficult to write victory conditions for a game on the strategic level - unless perhaps it was a cooperative game where both sides were trying to achieve the conditions necessary for this to be realised (also 'unrealistic' as neither side knew what these were until it happened.
 
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As interesting as a game based on Forever War would be, I think it would go against the general message of the novel. Great novel though,
 
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I have to say that I would agree with Ian, it would be hard to get across the point of the book and have a good game. Here is my idea though. You have a game where there is ever advancing technology from multiple races tech trees and crossover techs. A randomized tile-based map of different space sectors. Pre-assigned attack orders. A randomizing time element such as 5 or 6 or a d6 to pass through each tile so that you never know how long transit will take and when your attack order will be initiated. VPs for tech captures, advances, and planets captured. Two phased game. The first phase you try to destroy enemy and capture technology. At random points in the game (e.g. 4 or 5 cards out of a deck) you will have an oportunity for peace. At this point, players must send out ships to intersect their own ships and prevent attacks. vps are scored for intersepting ships. If there are no attacks for x number of turns, then peace is achieved and everyone scores peace vps and game ends. If not all ships can be stopped, then no peace, no peace vps. Return to phase one. I think a game like this where peace is the goal but still having a good light wargame too would make the most sense for a game like this.
 
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2. Board Game: War Elephant, SPQR Module [Average Rating:7.45 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.45 Unranked]
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Footfall - Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle

A fantastic novel detailing the invasion of Earth by a species somehwat resembling smallish elephants - possessing interstellar travel, and the ability to toss asteroids (or other, kinetic-energy devices) at the Earth. A global war ensues, with several actions on different continents described in the novel, and culminates in a fight-to-the-death in orbit, between a cobbled-together last hope of man against the enemy mothership.

What the hell more could you ask for?

Also needs cinematic adaptation. Badly.
 
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Elephants on Parade

Elephants in Space. I can smell the crackling of Pacyderm.

Love it.
 
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  • Posted Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:35 pm
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Bellingham gets nuked. I love it.
 
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Heh, I read it while living in Bellingham.
 
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This is obviously NOT THE Bellingham in Beckenham in Kent, UK. The TRUE Bellingham.
 
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DeanCornel wrote:
Elephants on Parade

Elephants in Space. I can smell the crackling of Pacyderm.


I thought that was Pratchett.
 
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3. Board Game: Full Métal Planète [Average Rating:7.46 Overall Rank:567]
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I would go for Iain Banks' "Culture" series starting with 'Consider Phlebas'.

Funky spaceships with "Minds" of their own and names like "Getting there BUT slowly". Collectible ships you build or just great board bits.

I could easily spend a couple of hours in "Special Circumstances". Spying, intrigue and paranoia...and a little bit of death.

F*** the Prime Directive let's go and mess with the Aliens' culture.
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I'd love to try the game in "The Player of Games". Not for the stakes they play for though
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Great series!
 
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Spaceships with a length of about 60 miles or more. Weapons that work at 1.000.000+ miles and with the power to devastate whole starsystems.
I guess scaling could be a real problem.
But still this is a real cool space opera. My favortite book is Excessions.
 
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I started a thread about the game (the main one) in "The Player of Games". Probably been archived by now...
 
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Excellent choice. My preference would go to The Player of Games and Azad.

Excellent theme and background, knife missiles, special circumstances, not to mention the ship names - i seem to remember one called Vermillion Stance.
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AlexBrown wrote:
I'd love to try the game in "The Player of Games". Not for the stakes they play for though


What a fantastic book! I must re-read it!
 
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4. Board Game: Pandora [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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Pandora's Star - Peter F. Hamilton

...and the sequel, Judas Unchained, depict a war between humanity, who has adopted wormhole travel to the exclusion of spaceships (travelling directly from one planet's surface to another), against a remorseless, super-aggressive, single-mind species, which has been honing its space combat abilities against its own kind for millenia. Humanity starts the conflict at a distinct disadvantage, and must claw its way first towards just holding the line, while trying to find a way to deliver a desperate but necessary knock-out blow.
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I love Peter Hamilton.

We could also look at his meisterwerk "Night's Dawn Trilogy".

Nasty aliens making Humanity go insane.

This has so many locations amd dramatis personae, a great source of material for a CCG a la Game of Thrones.

I might start wrting this one myself....
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I'm partial to "The Reality Dysfunction" myself, but all of his works are gold.
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Interesting gameplay can be drawn from the theme with this one. Like the human player gets a tech tree while the motile(?) player doesn't but whatever the human player researches the motile player gets it on the next turn/round/whatever (point being the human player only gets a one turn advantage with tech but gets to control the flow of tech).

Meanwhile the motile player has to constantly keep adding units to it's hive mind to keep up with handling the ever increasing resource needs of it's growing army.
 
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Good points, David. There's a lot in a Hamilton work to convert into gameplay - probably too much, in fact. Some judicious snipping would probably be in order.
 
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5. Board Game: Big Damn Space Battles [Average Rating:5.00 Unranked]
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Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. This fictional space setting of the war between humans and buggers might have made for an interesting war game.
 
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Even the battleroom exercises might make a nice game - though 3-D movement is notoriously difficult to replicate in a game, especially on a 2-D board.
 
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This is the one that immediately sprang to mind for me.
 
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What might also make a good game is the Bean/shadow "trilogy" that came for the same universe. Gobal war with super military genius kids.
 
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Good choice... And do you do something like Starship Troopers with scenarios for each mission Ender had to do (ST did it on planets) or do you make it more of a campaign thing?
 
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This is definately the book I would like to see as a game; maybe even two games. A game from battle school. But also Ender's and possibly Bean's lives with overcoming obstacles, solving adversities somehow. At any rate this is a game I would like to see soon.
 
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6. Board Game: Enemy at the Gates [Average Rating:7.75 Overall Rank:1068]
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The Deathgate Cycle by Weis & Hickman (authors of Dragonlance - Chronicles amongst others) Very basic outline of plot: 2 races of people who have extremely powerful magic are against each other, both think they are the gods of the universe, each trying to control the lesser races (humans, dwarves and elves), only to find that they are not the gods they think they are.

This is my favorite fantasy book series I've ever read. So much so, that I re-read it about every two years. Now, I've never played Netrunner, but I have read a lot about it, and a lot of people think very highly of it. That is the game I picture someone doing The Deathgate Cycle on. One faction would be the Patryns, the other the Sartan.

Orrrr....what would be really kewl, is a 4 player CCG. 2 teams - One person plays a Patryn deck, another a Sartan deck. The other two people partner with one of them, and play a mensch deck (what they call the lower races of people - funny cause I looked up the word. In the books it is a very not nice word). The Partyn and Sartan decks could only affect each other, while the mensch decks could affect everyone. The game would probably not sell, as it would only work really well with 4 people. But it would be fun.

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Totally agree. I have to whole series, and I even played the poorly done computer game version of the books many years ago.
 
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Quote:
I even played the poorly done computer game version of the books many years ago.


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And, if made a board game it would have huge expandability (or it would be a colossal game if it were all packed together) with each of the elemental worlds being represented somehow. I'm sorry I can't remember the names, it's been probably at least 10 years since I've read the books, but you're right the theme would make a great game if well done.
 
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Second this one.
Awesome series. meeple
 
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YES! This would be greatly expandable and could have modular boards that would change over time.
 
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7. Board Game: Twisty Turtle [Average Rating:3.00 Unranked]
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There at least three Harry Turtledove books/series that would good fodder for wargames:

Guns of the South--The books has several battles the Confederates (armed with AK-47's provided by the Afrikaaner Resistence Movement using a time machine) against the Union (revised Battle of the Wilderness and Battle of Washington) and the final battle where President Lee has to invade the well armed Afrikaaner base. Probably best handled at a tactical/operational level.

WorldWar Series: Space faring Lizards invade Tosev3 expecting to find warriors wearing metal plate armor on animalback. But they are surprised in the 800 years that their journey to took when they arrive at Tosev and find Tosevites are engaged in a global war with primitive aircraft, tanks, ships, chemical explosives. The Conquest Fleet has far superior weapons to the Tosevites, but they are thin on the ground. And the Tosevite leaders: Churchill, Hitler, Togo, Stalin and Roosevelt, realize the threat and temproarily call of hostilities to deal with the invasion.

Possibly as a strategic card based game where the Lizards have to win quickly before the humans can improve thier technology. Also several battles in the war can be adequate simulated.

--Timeline 191 How Few Remain, Alternate Great War, American Empire, Settling Accounts books: Based on the idea that Lee 'sGeneral Order 191 was not lost by the courier prior to the Battle of Antietam, thus Lee successfully outflanks McClellan's Army of the Potomac, invades the North and forces a political settlement of the Civil War. The series continues with a Second Mexican War over the CSA's acquisition of Sonora & Chihuahua, WW1 and WW2 between the USA and CSA.

Cerainly strategic games on all three wars and many indiidual battles are available.
 
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You're my hero for mentioning Turtledove, my all time favorite author, I actually have 43 of his books and thats not even all!! A lot of his books would make interesting campagine games
 
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You know, the only Timeline 191 novels that I've read so far are the American Empire series and the first Settling Accounts novel, and it wasn't until I saw the cover of "The Victorious Opposition" that I realized that he was making the CSA analogous to inter-war and WWII Nazi Germany. I felt so dumb when I realized that, but it really helps (I found) to understand a bit better some of the social conditions and whatnot that existed in inter-war Europe. And yes, I think they'd make great games, even in a larger scale (come on, a war between the Union and the Confederacy using WWII level technology? That would be great!)
 
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Love the choices for Turtledove. I've been waiting for anyone to pitch Guns as a movie. Could work really well if done right.

How about a non-wargame. Between the Rivers would convert nicely into a trading/caravan/gain influence game.

Maybe you could develope and spread enough effective influence, commerce routes, technology and litterature to take control of your own major city (Gibil for ex.) from the hands of the the demons and Gods who are running them?

Good list.
 
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I would think the Videssos cycles would probably work - big world map, lots of different countries - sort of a Divine Right thing.

Except it's more fantasy, I suppose. That doesn't disqualify it, does it?
 
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8. Board Game: Kablamo [Average Rating:5.38 Overall Rank:6697]
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THE PLAYER OF GAMES/ Iain M Banks

Boy, how could I not have put this one first? You must read this book because this is how many of us Geeks treat their game playing fix.

The new spin on the Russian Roulette theme using Humans as live ammunition is a master piece of SF writing.

Just a flavour below courtesy of the Iain M Banks Web site.
"The Culture — a human / machine symbiotic society — has thrown up many great Game Players, and one of the greatest is Gurgeh. Jernau Morat Gurgeh. The Player of Games. Master of every board, computer and strategy.

Bored with success, Gurgeh travels to the Empire of Azad, cruel and incredibly wealthy, to try their fabulous game ... a game so complex, so like life itself, that the winner becomes emperor. Mocked, blackmailed, almost murdered, Gurgeh accepts the game, and with it the challenge of his life — and very possibly his death."
 
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Now is this a good book, or are you just saying I should read it because it's about games? Also, how much does the game figure into the story line?

I read The Omega Game a couple years ago (forgot the author's name, sorry). It was okay, but the "game" was just a hook for a pretty basic murder mystery. If you're into murder mysteries, you might like it, but if you read it because you're interested in games, you might be disappointed, as I was.

I am also reminded of an old 1980's horror novel called Hobgoblin, which used a made-up role-playing game as the hook. For this one, I remember the author's name -- John Coyne -- because the book holds the distinction of being the most astoundingly bad novel I've ever read. Another murder mystery, with an irrelevant gaming theme that was
"pasted on", as we like to say here.

 
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No, this really is a good book and Game Playing and Gambling are at the heart of it.

If your bag is intelligent sci fi mixed with your favourite hobby this is for you.

If memory serves me, I think Iain Banks is a bit of a gamer himself....but I think more into "Civ" computer type games.

Go read it and let me know what you think: You have stimulated me to want to read it again. Thanks

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If memory serves me, I think Iain Banks is a bit of a gamer himself....but I think more into "Civ" computer type games.

The story is on record. He was three months late with his last manuscript because of Civ4 and eventually had to destroy the CD to stop him from playing it...
 
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Bank's love of Civ comes across in his non-SF novel 'Complicity', whose protaganist is addicted to a fictional Civ inspired game called 'Despot'.

And as for the book, it is indeed a very, very good one on it's own merits. It's one of a series of novels set in a common background, but although it is not the first sequentially it is probably the best one to read first (though all the novels are fine as a stand-alone, perhaps bar 'Inversions').
 
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Ah, Azad, that was the game. As I said I started a thread on it some time ago...
 
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9. Board Game: Princes of the Renaissance [Average Rating:7.55 Overall Rank:172]
 
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Nine Princes in Amber / The Chronicles of Amber
Roger Zelazny


Sure, you could just make a well-received RPG out this material, but think about the possibilities for tactical or strategic military operations in the quest for the "One True World".

Like PotR, the Machiavellian twists and turns of the Royal Family's quest for the throne and the ensuing fight against the forces of Chaos would make a phenomenal game.

Come on Martin Wallace, Richard Borg, and Christian Petersen- this one is a gem waiting to be crafted and polished. The epic sweep and rich material has kept Zelazny's world fresh every time I read it.

Just think: The flavor of Shadows Over Camelot, mixed in with the scale of War of the Ring, and the intrigue of Arkham Horror. So let it be written... surprise

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I like your style....I would love to play this game!
 
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It would be an interesting one to try & capture the essence of.

One minute the books are grand in scope as a brother raises an army in Shadow to try & topple the ruling brother from the throne, next it was quite personal & intimate with lots of dialogue.

Fantastic series.
 
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I actually did play the Amber RPG back in college. All the other guys were CS PhDs and huge Amber fans. I'd played D&D, but had never heard of Amber. They made me read the books before letting me play the game (I was lowly tagalong undergrad). Good read.

It was interesting bidding for relative powers, but the game bogged down quickly. The problem, and maybe this was the fault of the DM, was that the world had so few restrictions. We could do almost anything we could think of. There weren't enough rules and chains to tie us players down and we just sort of drifted aimlessly in this uberpowerful void.

Maybe we were doing something wrong. I remember at the time being surprised at how boring having god-like powers turned out to be.

 
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"An Amber collectible card game was being designed by Nebula Games, which now seems defunct. As of August 2000, Precedence had picked up the rights and had plans for a release in the 1st or 2nd quarter of 2001, but there is no information on their website concerning the game."

What would have made a FAR better 2-player ccg would be the ELRIC saga... each player representing either Law or Chaos with the Elric card thrown in as an element that can be used by either side.
 
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IMO, the first "Chronicles of Amber" books are all classic must reads. The second "Chronicles of Amber" books are fun, but pale in comparison to the first.

I think game balance would be very difficult in an Amber-based game. But I would love to see someone try and make one!
 
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10. Board Game: The Hunt for Red October [Average Rating:5.74 Overall Rank:4981]
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David Brin's Uplift series. While the earlier books were better, the whole thing had an epic scope. Quasi-religious factions of all the races of the Five Galaxies in a huge war, while attempting to chase down a lone Earth vessel carrying cargo that could turn their "religion" on its head. Great fun. The only great "epic" scale SF novel I've read is A Fire Upon the Deep and I have no idea how to turn that into a game.
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Should be, 'the only GREATER "epic" scale...'. That's what I get for not previewing... shake
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I always thought that world would make a great setting for an SF RPG. I just want to roleplay a dolphin.
 
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These are probably my favorite sci-fi series of all time. The 2nd trilogy was enjoyable, but its really the 2nd and 3rd books of the original trilogy that are the cream of the series.
 
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http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showbook&bookid=3173
 
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11. Board Game: Gamer's Guide to the Galaxy [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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Good books of sci-fi style satire. Very interesting universe. I'm not sure what type of game or games could come of it, though. I'd like to see a Hitchhiker's game that has players going around the galaxy trying to find the answers to the big questions, like 'who really runs the universe, when you get right down to it?' what is the ultimate question?' 'does Magrathea exist?' 'why is the Earth suddenly back again?' and 'what was god's message to the people of the universe?'. There could be a deck of "improbable event" cards which cause seemingly random, incredibly improbable events to happen. Also, a big thick instruction guide which reads "DON'T PANIC!" on it.

Another possibility is a game where you try to be elected as president of the galaxy. Perhaps it could be like a retheme of Die Macher, only with many planets involved.
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I have a copy of a very old (early 1980s)fanzine called Dragonlords which includes a spoof RPG set in the HHGTTG universe. Highly entertaining, I will attempt to summarise if anyone asks!
 
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This could also be made into a mass market family game....like Cranium where you have to attempt to make weird stuff ...from weird stuff..."land on the improbability drive" ....perform something improbable.....like Grognards driving Ferraris

The bits could also be really out there too......could be a DVD game concept....but it would have to be done properly to preserve the intergrity of the special place these groupof books have with their fanbase..
 
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That spoof RPG does sound highly entertaining!
Please share, so we can be blessed by the goodness that is the hitchhiker's universe.
 
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Hehehehe Talk about the ULTIMATE Trivial Pursuit. "Who really runs the universe?" etc. heheheeh now that would be difficult. (providing real answers, not just the ones from the book.)
Let's see catagories would be:
Life
The Universe
Everything
Politics
Travel
The Fundamental Interconectdness of All Things
(okay I know that last one is from "the other series" but it's too good a catagory title to pass up.)
 
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12. Board Game: Battle Cry [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:220]
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The Lost Regiment, Book 1: Rally Cry, by William R. Forstchen.

A New England regiment from the American Civil War is aboard a transport ship, when they are caught up in a unnatural storm that opens a rift through time and space, transporting the regiment to an alien yet Earth-like world. Turns out, this world has medieval-era villages inhabited by humans who are themselves decedents of others transported from Earth. But the humans here are all enslaved, and many of them serve as cattle, to a warrior race of man-eating aliens called the Tugar, who rule this world.

Before long, the lost regiment finds itself embattled with the Tugar, whose warriors outnumber the regiment 10 to 1; and to make matters worse, Tugar are bigger and stronger than humans. But the regiment has rifles and cannons, to stand against the Tugar with their medieval weapons and armor.

It's a pretty close match.

This could make either a tactical wargame with a highly unusual subject matter, representing a battle between the Civil War era human regiment and the medieval, ogre-like alien Tugar; or a strategic economic/building game, where the regiment and its leaders race to secure recourses and to mass produce Civil War era weaponry and other war materiel, and to build defenses in a medieval town soon to be under siege by the Tugar.

BTW: Rally Cry is the first in The Lost Regiment series. More about this excellent book and series can be found in this wiki entry...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_Cry
 
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Another book with a similar theme to this is "The High Crusade", by Poul Anderson. A medieval English village is stunned when an alien spaceship touches down, but are able to overpower and subdue the invaders. They board the ship, intending to "finally finish the battle with the French", but one of the aliens locks it on course for their home planet instead.

The main theme of the book is that the aliens have become so dependent on technology that they've lost the ability to wage or defend against traditional warfare (sieges, etc.). Perhaps the best scene from it involves a tactical nuke being launched from a trebuchet....
 
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Perhaps the best scene from it involves a tactical nuke being launched from a trebuchet

Is that even possibile without the trebuchet being caught in the blast radius? The old phrase "Hoisted by his own petard!" comes to mind.

 
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Who cares if it's really possible!?

Just imagine a nuclear warhead strapped to a mediaeval wooden war machine. Awesome.

I have heard of Steam Punk but what would you call this?

 
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Actually, Ares magazine had a game based on "High Crusade".
 
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13. Board Game: The Sands of War [Average Rating:6.65 Overall Rank:3363]
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George R.R. Martin's Short Story, Sandkings. A four player wargame where the players manage a "tribe" that starts out as insect-like creatures that then develop into semi-humanoids that work as formation-type warriors.
 
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Was that the story that was in Omni magazine where a guy buys them and they cause wars and worship him as a god? Eventually they take over his house and he is led off to be eaten.
 
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14. Board Game: Andromeda Foundation Official Battle Manual [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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Isaac Asimov/The Foundation Series

I am surprised that Mr Asimov never licensed any of his major "properties" off apart from 'I, Robot'.

He was a great communicator and brought Sci Fi to the masses and stimulated many of the key writers of the 70's and 80's.

'The Foundation Series', in my view was his magnum opus.

It would have made a great old school Avalon Hill type game. I can almost see the box cover in that typical 70's style they had.

A great empire building game across the galaxy; a mystery game to try and find the Foundation Origin. Or a two player game where one player takes the part of the 'Mule'.

I suppose there are many of Asimov's stories that would lend themselves to Boardgames.

"Caves of Steel" would be a great Sci Fi Cluedo.
 
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Although I agree that the original Foundation trilogy is Asimov's masterpiece (everything else with "Foundation" in the name is crap), making a game out of it seems to me to be fundamentally wrong, for one obvious reason:

Psychohistory would determine the outcome of any game played on a sufficiently large scale to reflect the setting properly.

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Totally agree on the the Trilogy comment.

I meant the first three...I managed to read all three in a couple of days when I was in my teens.... This list is really making me want to read some of my classic SF library again.

Thanks!

On the p/history front...that would indeed be a problem...cue an innovative game mechanic!goo
 
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I know it's not a wargame, but isn't Star Traders set in the same univerese as the Foundation series? It even has Asimov's name on the box.

The Foundation Triology was one of my first ventures into Science Fiction. I really enjoyed them, even the later ones... (although not as much...)
 
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15. Board Game: Snowstorm [Average Rating:5.90 Unranked]
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Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash

Heck, I'd settle for a feature film. Apparently a film adaption has been entertained a couple of time without results.

There's enough in this book to create some sort of cyber-punk game. I haven't played NetRunner yet, so maybe it has essentially been done. But MAN would I love to get my hands on Reason in some sort of war game amongst burbclaves or franchises.
 
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I was thinking about this just the other day. I think it'd be awesome as a large-scale strategy game, but where each player plays a major franchise or other force: The Feds, Nova Sicilia, and the favorite: Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong. Think halfway between A Game Of Thrones and Illuminati.
 
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This is a book/game I was thinking of too ... no particular mechanisms in mind, but something where you play simultaneously in the real world and in the metaverse ... invest too much time/power in one area suffer in the other.

Or hell ... I'd love to play just a chase/race/combat game based on the high speed pizza delivery in the opening chapter.

Probably my favorite book of all time.
 
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16. Board Game: The Pillars of the Earth [Average Rating:7.34 Overall Rank:127]
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The Ill Earth War/ Stephen Donaldson

Before "A Game of Thrones" (A Game of Thrones A Game of Thrones Collectible Card Game ) came this masterpiece.

I loved these books. More Fantasy than Hard SF.

Great potential for a CCG. 'Saltheart Foamfollower' the giant would be an Ultra Rare as would 'Lord Foul's Bane'.

Tapping the Land would mean something....

At least 6 books of material with short stories.

I know 'Magic TG' is in the same territory BUT I adored the characters, the World and the premise....

 
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The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever are my favorite fantasy series of all time; I'd love to see a game based on this!
 
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When I were a nipper, I created an SPI-style wargame based on TCOTCTU ... as well as the Silmarillion. They were both rubbish of course, and very uninspired. Long since lost/thrown away.

Those were the days. When a game needed a billion cardboard counters and a hex map.
 
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This is also one of my top three all time favorite books (well, the first series is - the second one, while still enjoyable, is much further down on the list...)

Anyway, I'm not in to CCGs that much (although I'm sure it would be cool), but I think a "wargame" would be pretty awesome, based off the struggle between the Lords' armies and the minions of Lord Foul. Lots of options for cool armies, magic, and heroes/special characters. All of this spanning the length and breadth of the "Land". It would be a pretty cool board, too.

Maybe some day...
 
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What do people think of the new series. I really enjoyed going back to the setting, although the ending really left you hanging. Would have been better to wait till the next book was out as I really want to continue the story immediately.
 
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As someone who has suffered from severe mental illness (which is thankfully in remission until it chooses to recur), I found The Runes of the Earth quite...interesting. It is a bit of a wait until the next one but I guess it takes time to write something that good.
 
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17. Board Game: Exiled [Average Rating:3.50 Unranked]
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The Saga of the Pliocene Exile by Julian May. In the near future a one way time portal is found in France. Over time various people use it to escape their current existence. The four volume series follows the adventures of one party who used the portal. Would make a great mini-series on Sci-Fi Channel. For games would probably make a great RPG or CCG. I'm not sure how it would translate to a boardgame.
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I agree ... probably work best as a CCG or as a RPG...

Hey, but if game of thrones can be turned into a Boardgame so cold this!
 
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18. Board Game: World of Warcraft: The Boardgame [Average Rating:6.63 Overall Rank:708]
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The DARK ELF TRILOGY, by R.A. Salvatore

The baord game is a map of Menzoberanza'an (ok, spelling is probably jacked-up, but you know the city I'm talking about).

Each player controls one of the great Drow houses that is vying for supremecy.

Think of the possibilities! Political intrigue, secret alliances, battles between armies, assassins, spell casters, random event cards to spice things up (monsters from Underdark creeping up in different spots, Lloth punishing/rewarding different houses for no particular reason).

I've always been fascinated by Salvatore's writing about the drow culture, and think it would be a kick-ass board game idea.

It could have a Blood Fued in New York kind of feel to it.

(BTW, is this picture of a drow? Kind of looks like one, but I've only played WoW a couple times, so I couldn't remember if this character is a drow...)
 
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That's a Night Elf. It looks very similar to a Drow IMO. I'm not sure if they're practically the same or not but I don't think so. I'm glad you brought this up. I've always thought that the whole Dritzz series would make and interesting game be it in Boardgame type or Videogame type. There's just so much there that you could pull from and build a really nice game. But I guess Never Winter Nights is based on this in a way so the videogame part is taken care of.
 
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There's actually a game for the PS2 that Drizzt has a cameo in and you can even play as him.
 
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This idea really intrigues me. If this was made into a game, I would buy it without research.

Just pleeease don't let me be utterly devastated.
And no Drizzt. Menzo doesn't revolve around HIM

 
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Someone please direct this man to a good game publisher. I think he has got a winner here. Even if you don't like Drizzt or Dark Elves, the idea with the different houses battling for power would be great.

Whenever someone buys your idea let, me know cause I will be in line to buy a copy of the game.
 
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19. Board Game: War & Sheep [Average Rating:5.77 Overall Rank:3985]
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The Rediscovery of Man and Norstrilia by Cordwainer Smith. Incredibly diverse and creative mythos to be mined. I could recommend no other writer more highly.

 
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Ooooh... Norstrilia, great book.
 
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20. Board Game: Conquest of the Ring [Average Rating:4.67 Unranked]
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Ringworld - Larry Niven

This would probably either be a card game of exploration groups preparing and searching for the Ringworld or a boardgame of factions of ring residents negotiating and warring over resources.

Meepleshathra, anyone?
 
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There would be one big-a**ed board!
 
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There is a Ringworld RPG. Published by Chaosium quite long ago, and very rare now.
 
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I agree - an exploration game here woudl be good. I proposed a concept of the Known Space universe game as well...
 
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21. Board Game: Starship Troopers [Average Rating:6.40 Overall Rank:1368]
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OK, this is an interesting post so I thought I would share with everyone the best 5 sci-fi books ever written (well, in my humble opinion, that is). Some, like Starship Trooper, have been made in games, but that aside, if you like sci-fi, these books get my highest praise (and ive read plenty over the years):

Starship Troopers - R. Heinlein
Ringworld - L. Niven
City - C. Simac
The Mote in God's Eye - ?? brain fart
Gateway - F. Pohl
... and the #1 best: Ender's Game - O. Card

It's so hard to find good sci-fi... rarely do I even get through entire books now. I'm already making note for books to look out for based on this post. Thanks.
 
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... the 6 best sci-fi books ever.
 
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Agree with the "greatest" sci-fi books listed here but my top 5 list would certainly include, "Armor" by Steakley.
 
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As long as we are doing our favorite 5:

Dune: Frank Herbert
Ringworld: Larry Niven
Smoke Ring/Integral Trees: Larry niven
Starship Troopers: Robert Heinlein
Foundation Trilogy: Isaac Asimov

Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card would probably be next on the list...
 
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For modern military science fiction:

David Weber - deep space combat
John Ringo - Starship Troopers meets Tom Clancy
 
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I will have to check those writers out!

What books do you recommend?

 
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22. Board Game: Caves & Claws [Average Rating:5.78 Overall Rank:5384]
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The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe

"Behind everything some further thing is found, forever; thus the tree behind the bird, stone beneath soil, the sun behind Urth. Behind our efforts, let there be found our efforts."

I'm thinking Commonwealth vs. Ascians, with special rules for Hierodule technology, Undines, Vodalus, etc.
 
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We could replace Talk Like A Pirate Day with Talk Like You're Loyal To The Group Of Seventeen Day.

Perhaps a game of intrigue in the Autarch's court, where none of the players know what the rules are and if you lose you get smuggled out of the building in a rolled-up tapestry and then tortured to death?
 
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23. Board Game: Black Elephant [Average Rating:7.77 Overall Rank:2767]
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The Black Company by Glen Cook

I know this is supposed to be an SF list, but I feel justified adding The Black Company series since the Dark Elf trilogy was already mentioned.

The Black Company really was different from anything I'd read before. Much more realistic war fiction than I'd ever read, when I was expecting traditional swords and sorcery going in.

I could imagine a cool tactical wargame, with mercenaries switching sides. I just want to play Croaker.
 
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24. Board Game: Freedom in the Galaxy [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1352]
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Hmm, How about re-working the basic gameplay of this SPI Science Fantasy using Simon R Green's 9 book Deathstalker series as the background?

If nothing else would make an interesting variant on a classic theme.
 
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Matt Ruff
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They should come out of the closet and do a Star Wars version.
 
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Starrigger Series- John DeChancie

Jake Mcgraw intergalactic Trucker, President of Star Riggers Guild, Good guy, and pretty much modern version of a Pulp Hero. Gets caught up in a somewhat paradox driven flee (what do you call a chase from the pursued's perspective?) throughout time and space, having many interesting adventures, seeing strange and wonderful sights, and meeting, well not God, but a creator. Very entertaining light read. I don't know if I would do the whole race along the freeway. But I like the concept of a game of running competing interstellar trucking companies trying to deliver goods, whilst all the players try to ambush, assasinate, and otherwise sabatoge each other.
 
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A Flight...
 
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Oh, I know, how about DUNE by Frank Herbert

What's that? It's been done before? In my lifetime?

Isn't 25 years long enough to wait for a re-release?

Sorry for the venting...
Just finished reading the original series and became frustrated by the inability to purchase a reasonably priced DUNE game. (sigh)

Oh well, still a good list.
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As I am probably more of an avid reader than I am game player I have often thought that 'this book is crying out for a game'. In particular Iain M. Banks's 'Consider Phlebas' struck myself and my fellow Ragnar Phil as begging for a game based on the scenes surrounding the deadly mental bluffing/psychic assassination game, 'Damage'. I even wrote to Iain to ask about using the name 'Damage' for a game we wanted to develop and he actually wrote back personally to advise me of possibilitiies of film deals etc. and regrettably we couldn't use the name. C'est la vie. Some of those ideas became part of 'Where There's a Will', so it was not all in vain.
 
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Nice story..I have emailed Iain yesterday to come visit this list...maybe he'll share a few words...
 
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I guess my dreams of the Gor live action roleplaying game are a little fanciful?

 
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I guess my dreams of the Gor live action roleplaying game are a little fanciful?
Not too likely, especially given the direction the series took after book 5. I'd love to see something based upon the first few books.
 
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