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Haven't we all played them? At least a few, right? The old Avalon Hill games were the standard in boardgaming for many many years. This list is a tribute to the old Avalon Hill. So which old Avalon Hill (non-Hasbro) game is your favorite? And how does it rank on this list? Comments welcome!

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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2007 12:50 am

1. Board Game: Hannibal: Rome vs. Carthage [Average Rating:7.92 Overall Rank:27]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Hanninal: Rome vs. Carthage - AH#906 - Designed by Mark Simonitch & Richard Berg. Released in 1997.

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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:01 am

Zack Boatman

(zboat)

United States
Santa Fe
New Mexico

This is a great game! I think it is the best of the original AH card driven games.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 5:44 pm
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Jens Hoppe

(jens_hoppe)

Denmark
Frederiksberg

What are you, like 80?

It's not the years, honey, it's the mileage.

Along with Titan, my favorite AH game. Also my favorite CDG by far.

Posted Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:49 pm
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Nevin Ball

(Nevin)

United States
Dallas
Texas

That tickles!

Thank goodness this is being reprinted. There is no way in heck I would spend $200 on a game.

Posted Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:16 pm
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Lee Massey

(JackFlash)

United States
Teachey
North Carolina

Love this game too!

Posted Tue May 15, 2007 11:06 pm
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Joe H

United States
Aurora
Colorado

With this kind of rating, this is definately something I want to try ...

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2. Board Game: Advanced Squad Leader [Average Rating:7.91 Overall Rank:60]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Advanced Squad Leader - AH#870 - Designed by Don Greenwood and Bob McNamara. Released in 1985.

ASL is now published by MultiMan Publishing. AH published a great many expansions and extensions for ASL. This game still has a large following.

Avalon Hill published an extensive number of expansions for ASL:

ASL Module 1 - Beyond Valor
ASL Module 2 - Paratrooper
ASL Module 3 - Yanks
ASL Module 4 - Partisan
ASL Module 5 - West of Alamein
ASL Module 6 - The Last Hurrah
ASL Module 7 - Hollow Legions
ASL Module 8 - Code of Bshido
ASL Module 9 - Gung Ho!
ASL Module 10 - Croix du Guerre
ASL Module 11 - Doomed Battalions
ASL Deluxe Module 1 - Streets of Fire
ASL Deluxe Module 2 - Hedgerow Hell
ASL Historical Module 1 - Red Barricades
ASL Historical Module 2 - Kampfgruppe Peiper I
ASL Historical Module 3 - Kampfgruppe Peiper II
ASL Historical Module 4 - Pegasus Bridge
ASL Action Pack #1
Solitaire ASL

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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2007 12:29 am

Dave Davis

(DDavis_23)

United States

Ohio

The best tactical WWII game I have ever played. I owned all the modules for this game and you could create any battle anywhere during WWII. The rules are quite extensive and complex. I havent played in years since I sold all the modules on Ebay. I still remember many of my favorite scenarios and battles though. Many fond memories....

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3. Board Game: Dune [Average Rating:7.63 Overall Rank:88]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Dune - AH#824 - Designed by Bill Eberle, Jack Kittredge & Peter Olotka. Released in 1979.

Expanded by:

The Duel
Spice Harvest

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Edited Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:58 am
Posted Sat Nov 4, 2006 8:31 pm

Zack Boatman

(zboat)

United States
Santa Fe
New Mexico

I have always thought that this should be a top 10 instead of just in the top 50. This is an excellent game.

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Keith Pottage

(keithpottage)

United Kingdom
Nr Wakefield
West Yorkshire

From the designers who gave us the excellent Cosmic Encounter, this game seems to impress everyone. It conveys the factions and tension of Frank Herbert's first trilogy quite well and even people who are not familiar with the books seem to appreciate the scenario and atmosphere. It loses something with fewer players, but for six people it is just about unbeatable.

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:46 am
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Les Merrills

(Redbeak)

England
Unspecified

It's more than a game, it's an experience.

Posted Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:58 am
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Dennis L Mann

(utoption2)

United States
Austin
Texas

Awesome game! A real headsmasher. I suspect that if this game was reprinted, it would quickly rise to the Top 10.

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Ron Pfeiffer

(fuzzyfife)

United States
Surfside Beach,
South Carolina

I would agree almost totally. The one problem is that it needs a full compliment of players, all of them reasonably proficient in playing the game to get the full experience of the game. It's good no matter what but it's great when played by experienced players.

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4. Board Game: Civilization [Average Rating:7.57 Overall Rank:82]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Civilization - AH#837 - Designed by Francis Tresham. Originally release by Hartland Trefoil. Avalon Hill edition released in 1981.

Civilization proved very popular. A western extension map, expansion trade cards, and eventually Advanced Civilization were released in support of this game. Civilization is widely known as a "long" game, taking 4-8 hours to play.

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Josh

(JoshBot)

United States

Surely I'm not the only person who really enjoys the smell of post offices

The face of the Earth is a graveyard, and so has it ever been. Each living thing restores when it dies that which had been borrowed to give form and substance to its brief day in the sun.

I think you have low-balled the game length, at least with 7 players. 8 to 12 hours was my experience. Well worth it it every way.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 11:19 am
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Gideon Marcus

(Neopeius)

United States
Vista
California

This is the highest ranking one I own and have played. It has its problems, but it's my wife's absolute favorite wargame. And when it's a good game, it's a solid 10 hours of your life you'll have fond memories of forever.

Advanced Civ messes it all up. I do like the Eastern Expansion cards, though, if you have 7 players.

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Ken Ken

(ken_ken)

Hong-Kong

Cannot pass my childhood without this great game

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フィル

(sbszine)

Australia
Newtown
NSW

4-6 hours for me.

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Joe H

United States
Aurora
Colorado

Probably my favorite AH game.

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5. Board Game: Advanced Civilization [Average Rating:7.97 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.97 Unranked]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Advanced Civilization - AH#8372 - Designed by Francis Tresham & Bruce Harper. Released in 1991.

Advanced Civilization is an expansion for Civilization; and only works with the AH release of Civilization. Francis Tresham designed the base game. Bruce Harper was the primary designer for the "Advanced" rules, which really do not add significant complexity.

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Edited Fri Mar 9, 2007 5:02 am
Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Russell InNC

(rules_heretic)

United States
Charlotte
North Carolina

(This is my understanding.) This is not an expansion of Civ. This is revision of the original Civ game. They are independent of each other.

Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:35 pm
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Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Sorry to correct you, but Advanced Civ is definitely an expansion. You can see the back of the box here, outlining what is included: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/12578

This is important to note, as anyone who buys Advanced Civ should know they need a copy of the Avalon Hill Civilization base game to use it. I've never seen the Hartland Trefoil, Gibsons, or French versions, but they are apparently incompatible with the AH Advanced Civ expansion.

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Alan Lipka

(Lipka149)

United States
Wilmington
North Carolina

While perhaps not to everyone's taste, AC has provided a number of unique, high quality gaming experiences for me. It has been my pleasure to be involved in at least half a dozen complete games with 5 or more players. I never won ... and I do not remember who won any of those games. What I do recall is the fun we had choosing our Civilizations, the conversation that piqued the veterans and encouraged the rookies, the intensity of the Trading, the strategy of our card buys, the tactics of population control, and the bleary eyes of the last two contenders.

I hosted most of those games. It was my son and his buddies (some of whom brought their girlfriends) that provided the necessary "players". Marathon games require correct nutrition, so we often started with bacon and eggs at the break of dawn. Almost everyone was around for lunch, and supper usually revolved around a spirited AAR.

If ever presented with a 7 Player FTF game in the future, I would jump at the chance. Especially with the AC expansion that includes the Iberian Peninsula ! For all of its negative press about game length, I honestly believe it is one of AH's finest games. I have had more pure fun playing AC than with any other AH game ... and I have played a lot of them !

Alan

Posted Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:05 am
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Joe H

United States
Aurora
Colorado

I guess if I am a serious Civ player, I will need to get a copy eventually. I havent' played it so I do not know if it is worth it ...

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Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

I find getting Civ, in either form, on the table a real challenge anymore. But locally we have played Advanced Civ in living memory - and it is the preferred mode. Sadly the Advanced Civ expansion is rather expensive anymore. Original Civ was released in three different editions, at least - and is much easier to find and afford.

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D Jackson

(DJackson531)

United States

Maryland

I've always felt that this was the greatest AH game ever made. It's certainly the highest on this list that I own. Though one of these days I'd like to give "Hannibal" a go.

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6. Board Game: Up Front [Average Rating:7.87 Overall Rank:95]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Up Front - AH#853 - Designed by Courtney F. Allen. Released in 1983.

The famous card game based on Squad Leader.

Avalon Hill published two expansions to Up Front:

Banzai
Desert War

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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2007 12:26 am

carl huber

(wetwebwork)

England
London

My number one. Played three or four copies of Up Front to bits, and sure, we may never have got the rules quite right, but it never really mattered. 501 City Fight once you (pretty much) understand the rules is where it's at. The expansions were okay, but nothing special; I was disappointed that they didn't include custom decks for terrain, but I suspect the cost would have been prohibitive. I wish Attack Sub could have been this good.

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7. Board Game: Acquire [Average Rating:7.43 Overall Rank:99]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Acquire - AH#GA-140 - Designed by Sid Sackson. Originally released by 3M in 1962. Avalon Hill edition first released in 1976.

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Posted Sat Nov 4, 2006 12:22 am

Matt

United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota

This still comes out every once and a while. We always used this as a filler to kill the last hour or two of a long gaming session.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:57 am
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Ron Pfeiffer

(fuzzyfife)

United States
Surfside Beach,
South Carolina

Agreed! a German type game before there were German type games!!!

Posted Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:21 am
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Tim Seitz

(out4blood)

United States
Glen Allen
VA

Like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be recovered, so we must die. But God does not take away life; instead, he devises ways so that a banished person may not remain estranged from him. 2 Sam 14:14

Played this growing up numerous times with my buddy and his family.

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8. Board Game: 1830: Railways & Robber Barons [Average Rating:7.77 Overall Rank:84]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

1830 - AH#869 - Designed by Francis Tresham. Released in 1986.

While not the first 18xx game, 1830 went a long ways towards popularizing the system. Now out of print, 1830 is still highly regarded as one of the best 18xx games ever produced.

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Alex Henderson

(Alex777)

Cayman Islands
Grand Cayman

And the PC version (also by AH, for MSDOS) is regarded as 1 of the very best computer AIs ever.

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Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

(JadedGamer)

Norway
Oslo
Unspecified

I spoke to an 1830 player about the AI of the computer verions - he was of the opinion that the only thing the AI did when you increased the difficulty was to gang up on the human player more and more...

Runs fine in DosBox on a modern computer. As does their Advanced Civilization game.

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The Sleeper Awakes

(Ellowen-Deeowen)

United States
Aiken
South Carolina

The Necronomicon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnbYcB9ctu8

Being re-released by Mayfair in October 2011.

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9. Board Game: The Republic of Rome [Average Rating:7.62 Overall Rank:125]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

The Republic of Rome - AH#885 - Designed by Richard M. Berthold and Robert Haines. Released in 1991.

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Posted Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:35 pm

Shaminder Dhillon

(frediccini)

United States
Las Cruces
New Mexico

I have played a few sessions of this game, but 1. we never finished and 2. fist fights almost broke out...I owned it for a while and then felt trading it was the only wise thing to do.

Posted Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:58 pm
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Mark Holmes

(mr_mrholmes)

United Kingdom
Shipley
West Yorkshire

This is one of the all-time great games. I've never played another game where you have to cooperate whilst viciously competing with each other. It has the feel of real political dynamics.

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Stephen Stewart

(ASLChampion)

United States
Visalia
California

frediccini wrote:

I have played a few sessions of this game, but 1. we never finished and 2. fist fights almost broke out...I owned it for a while and then felt trading it was the only wise thing to do.

Just like in the Roman forums...

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chris orourke

great game the diplomacy you have to use with other players is great.

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10. Board Game: Squad Leader [Average Rating:7.46 Overall Rank:187]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Squad Leader - AH#822 - Designed by John Hill. Released in 1977.

Now published by MultiMan Publishing.

Avalon Hill published the following expansions for Squad Leader:

Expansion #1 - Cross of Iron
Expansion #2 - Crescendo of Doom
Expansion #3 - GI: Anvil of Victory

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Paul Glenn

(pfglenn)

United States
Wheaton
Maryland

Not quite--MMP publishes ASL, not the original SL. SL has been out of print for probably 20 years.

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Mervyn Douglas

(mervyndouglas)

United Kingdom

rickbill wrote:

How did the children surpass the parent in the BGG rankings?!

Its a travesty I tell you!!

You are so right....how many played ASL compared to SL and its siblings???

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Dave Davis

(DDavis_23)

United States

Ohio

I played this game once a week for about a year with a buddy of mine. I never got tired of it. Then ASL came out and me and my buddy got the rulebook and studied it for a week or so and we never played SL again. Some people liked SL better because you could mark the hexes for defensive fire and decide where you wanted to shoot after your opponent moved all his units. I preferred shooting as your opp moved. ASL has more "depth" in its rules and is better laid out. SL still holds a place in my heart as a very good game. Maybe some day I'll find an opponent and try it again.

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David Hinson

(dhinson)

United States

North Carolina

Ah, my old friend. I have SL and all 3 expansions. Every scenario card laminated. Every counter RFID chipped. Its in my will that I shall be buried with it.

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Joseph Moore

(Gunner Joe)

Canada

Amen.

It WAS a classic. IMO ASL was just a cynical rip-off to force you to buy stuff all over gain.

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11. Board Game: Britannia [Average Rating:7.32 Overall Rank:202]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Britannia - AH#873 - Designed by Lew Pulsipher. Possibly originally released by Gibsons. Avalon Hill edition released in 1986.

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Paul Glenn

(pfglenn)

United States
Wheaton
Maryland

A 2nd edition of this game was released by (I think) FFG in 2006. I think the 2nd edition isn't that different from the AH one, but I'm not sure.

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Jim Marshall

(Jim Marshall)

United Kingdom
York
North Yorkshire

Yes, the original game was published by Gibsons games in the UK. I have an old copy - the latest FFG edition certainly looks better, but by the standards of the (late eighties) day, the original wasn't a bad looking game.

General opinion is that this game works if all the players know its nuances (in particular, that certain players can expect to be ahead at different points in the game as each player's major nation comes into play at a different time) and are prepared to let it go the distance (it can play long).

If you can do that, you will re-live a period where the people of the Britain saw unparalleled upheaval and conquest, with incomers from Italy, France, Germany, Scandanavia and Ireland shaping the genetic and cultural make up of an island race that would punch well above it weight (in terms of population and country size) through to the current day.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 11:50 pm
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Michel Boucher

(alsandor)

Canada
Ottawa
Ontario

One of the curious things about the game is that the AH edition was a copy of the Gibson's. That isn't curious in itself, but as Lewis Pulsipher explained it to me last summer, the X created by the four zone lines joining just south of the Scottish border was not on his original design, but was imposed by the British publisher and repeated by Avalon Hill. The new FFG edition has his original design which included only a passage between the SW and the NE.

Modified:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/fullimage/14072

Original:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/fullimage/135168

Of course many strategies had been based on how to get from SW to NE in two turns and that is no longer necessary.

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Andy Daglish

(aforandy)

United Kingdom
Cheadle
Cheshire

Quote:

Yes, the original game was published by Gibsons games in the UK

in two editions, the second fixing the brown/purple piece confusion, and with equally crap rules. As with Kingmaker, you wanted to mix and match the best components from the TAHGC and British games for perfect gaming wonderment. Until the new one came along.

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Tim Thorp

(berserkley)

Spain
Granite Falls
Washington

alsandor wrote:

Did he explain why it was imposed?

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12. Board Game: Diplomacy [Average Rating:7.12 Overall Rank:245]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Diplomacy - AH#8191 - Designed by Allan Calhamer. Originally released in 1959 by Games Research. Avalon Hill edition released in 1976.

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Posted Sat Nov 4, 2006 8:31 pm

Steve Vocelka

(Voofka)

United States

Texas

I always enjoyed playing this game with friends. Some of our games got rather interesting but we always had a good laugh/discussion afterwards. Something that always seems to happen after an AH game.

Posted Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:12 pm
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Mark Casiglio

(Csigs)

United States
Shelton
Connecticut

Avalon Hill/Hasbro is about to reissue this ...

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(Drew1365)

United States

Wisconsin

Say what now? surprise

Posted Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:52 pm
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Jay Thomas

(JuggernautJ)

United States

California

Simple, elegant, the perfect game.

Posted Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:07 am
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chris orourke

when i first got this i thought it was odd because of no fighting like panzer leader. but then the manuvering can't be beat.

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13. Board Game: History of the World [Average Rating:7.17 Overall Rank:254]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

History of the World - AH#893 - Designed by Gary Dicken & Steve Kendall. Originally released in 1991 by Ragnar Brothers. Avalon Hill edition released in 1993.

Hasbro/Avalon Hill later rereleased this game using plastic figures in lieu of the cardboard chits.

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Jim Marshall

(Jim Marshall)

United Kingdom
York
North Yorkshire

Between the original Ragnar Bros edition and the AH one, Gibsons Games in the UK also published a (for the time) fairly attractive edition.

This is the edition that I have in my collection, and have played quite a lot over the years, albeit not for a couple of years.

Good game, although like a lot of games of its era it can play long.

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:00 am
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Jim Scheiderich

(LHIM)

United States
Liverpool
New York

I see a lot of people say (OK it's anecdotal evidence) this game runs long - too long. I haven't played in some time but I don't recall it being overly long - certainly not compared to Adv Civ. Maybe 4 hours?

As to the re-release with the plastic minis - I thought they looked cheap and avoided that purchase...

Posted Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:28 pm
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Joe Baptist

(joedogboy)

United States

California

As I recall, the box/rules suggest that the game takes 45 minutes per player. This always seemed accurate when I played the game, with four player games running about 3 hours.

*sigh* remember the days when we had enough time with our friends that we considered it a + when a game took longer to play?

Posted Mon Jan 4, 2010 7:34 am
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chris orourke

I'm 48 and still one of few games me and my friends still play regularly.

Posted Mon Aug 8, 2011 7:18 pm
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14. Board Game: Merchant of Venus [Average Rating:7.22 Overall Rank:269]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Merchant of Venus - AH#876 - Designed by Richard Hamblen. Released in 1988.

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Posted Mon Dec 4, 2006 12:33 am

Matt

United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota

Love this game it still hits the table often.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:32 am
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Thom Hall

(skars)

United States
Santa Clara
California

Oh yeah this one is great. The space peanuts rock and the rastur are fun for solitaire play.

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:51 pm
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Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

(JadedGamer)

Norway
Oslo
Unspecified

If someone says "all roll and move games suck" say "no." in a calm voice and point at this game.

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:26 pm
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carl huber

(wetwebwork)

England
London

Hardly the most beautiful game in the world, and a pain to set up, but a joy to play. Losing when you were that close to a big sell... heartbreaking. So tense but so much fun.

Posted Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:13 pm
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Judy Krauss

(Jude)

United States
Unspecified
Pennsylvania

This game lets you be an explorer and space trader and has incredible replayability. What more could you want?

Posted Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:46 pm
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15. Board Game: Breakout: Normandy [Average Rating:7.72 Overall Rank:274]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Breakout: Normandy - AH#894 - Designed by James Stahler & Don Greenwood. Released in 1992.

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Posted Sat Nov 4, 2006 3:29 am

Lee Massey

(JackFlash)

United States
Teachey
North Carolina

I think this is the best game that AH ever made! It is very challenging!

Posted Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:27 am
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chris orourke

great game.

Posted Mon Aug 8, 2011 7:19 pm
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16. Board Game: We the People [Average Rating:7.42 Overall Rank:303]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

We the People - AH#737 - Designed by Mark Herman. Released in 1993.

Expanded by: We the People Expansion Card Set.

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Bruce Monnin

(Bruce Monnin)

United States
Minster
Ohio

Just discovered this game two years ago. Rapidly becoming one of my all time favorites.

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:28 am
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Chris Storzillo

(CPT Storzo)

United States
Wayne
New Jersey

The original designer, Mark Herman, is redesigning this game and re-releasing it as Washington's War. Out of the nearly 300 games in my collection, I only own two duplicate games. This is one of them! The other is Air Baron which I got a great deal on and couldn't pass it up for the parts value alone.

Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:09 pm
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17. Board Game: Titan [Average Rating:7.08 Overall Rank:317]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Titan - AH#839 - Designed by Jason McAlister & David Trampier. Originally released in 1980 by Gorgonstar. AH edition released in 1982.

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Jens Hoppe

(jens_hoppe)

Denmark
Frederiksberg

What are you, like 80?

It's not the years, honey, it's the mileage.

It's a brilliant game and possibly my all-time favorite boardgame. These days it's hard to get on the table but luckily there's Colossus on the PC for that Titan fix.

Posted Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:53 pm
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carl huber

(wetwebwork)

England
London

Loved the design, loved the mechanics, but games never seemed to end.

Posted Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:26 pm
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Daniel Schulz

(horrido)

United States
Saint Michael
Minnesota

Never understood why this one was so popular. There is WAY to much down time in multi player games.

Posted Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:59 am
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18. Board Game: Empires in Arms [Average Rating:7.48 Overall Rank:358]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Empires in Arms - AH#864 - Designed by Harry Rowlands & Greg Pinder. Originally released in 1983 by Austrailian Design Group. Avalon Hill edition released in 1986.

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Posted Thu Nov 9, 2006 5:04 am

Matt

United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota

If you get one chance to play this BID HIGH FOR FRANCE. Who cares if you loose you will have fun.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:58 am
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Shane Beck

(Shane Beck)

Australia
Not Applicable

Who cares about bidding high for FRANCE? Bid zero and pick up TURKEY. Gotta love those feudal corps even if you do usually lose every battle.....

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:08 am
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Joe Lott

(masaakunokouchi)

United States
Tacoma
Washington

I always pick up a 0 bid and have fun with spain or turkeY!

Posted Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:00 pm
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Scott Snyder

(Snydeman)

United States
Cockeysville
Maryland

The last time I played this was as Spain, and it was a blast. During a war with France in which they were winning, the Russian and Austrian players decided to mess with poor lil' Spain by taking some of my provinces in Italy from me. Little did they know I had been in negotiations with Britain, and two turns later the joint Anglo-Spanish fleet amphibiously invaded St. Petersburg. With tactics selections we needed a roll of 5 or better, 5 or better, and then six to have any shot of defeating the Russian garrison and capturing the city.

Three rolls later - 5, 6, 6 - there were Brits and Spaniards in St. Petersburg and the nearest Russian army was in the German states. You've never seen someone SO angry as that Russian player was, and I don't think I've ever had so much fun.

Never underestimate the fun of playing the little guy sometimes.

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chris orourke

i love huge games and this one is. But there point system for allies and rank is awesome.

Posted Mon Aug 8, 2011 7:21 pm
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19. Board Game: For the People [Average Rating:7.53 Overall Rank:328]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

For the People - AH#738 - Designed by Mark Herman. Released in 1998.

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20. Board Game: Colossal Arena [Average Rating:6.91 Overall Rank:350]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Titan: The Arena - AH#6458 - Designed by Reiner Knizia & Don Greenwood. Released in 1997. Later rereleased as Colossal Arena.

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21. Board Game: Kremlin [Average Rating:7.07 Overall Rank:371]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Kremlin - AH#878 - Designed by Urs Hostettler. Originally released in 1987 by Fata Morgana. Avalon Hill edition released in 1988.

Expanded by Kremlin: Revolution!

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Posted Mon Dec 4, 2006 12:33 am

Jim Miller

(eleran)

United States
Unspecified
Unspecified

This is one of my faves. We have a core group of 5 ruthless Kremlin players in our group.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 8:07 pm
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Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

(JadedGamer)

Norway
Oslo
Unspecified

I'm surprised the core gameplay elements here haven't been rethemed into another game yet; a (White Wolf) Vampire board game of Sabbat politics in a city, for instance, with torpor taking the place of the sanitarium etc...

It's crazy enough to actually work! cool

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:23 pm
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Arcadian Del Sol

(Arcadian Del Sol)

United States
Unspecified
Unspecified

This game BEGS to be released as a Sopranos tie-in.
At first glance you think, ugh that sucks - but if you think about it some more, this game kinda works in a mafioso crime family theme.

Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:16 pm
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Ian Cooper

(Beery)

United States
Silver Spring
Maryland

I'd love to see Kremlin get a modern makeover - perhaps by Fantasy Flight or someone who can really make it look as good as it plays. This game deserved a lot more popularity than it got, and I think it was held back by the somewhat amateurish graphics. It's a blast to play - everyone I've ever introduced to it has enjoyed it immensely.

Posted Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:49 pm
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Bill J

(BillJ1967)

United States
Batavia
Ohio

Agreed. This game is too good to be left in the global politics of the 1970s. It could easily be reconfigured as "CEO: The game of organizational management" or "University! The game of faculty politics". Just my suggestions...

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22. Board Game: Age of Renaissance [Average Rating:7.13 Overall Rank:363]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Age of Renaissance - AH#907 - Designed by Jared Scarborough & Don Greenwood. Released in 1996.

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Posted Sat Nov 4, 2006 12:22 am

Zack Boatman

(zboat)

United States
Santa Fe
New Mexico

Ouch, not even in the top 200. This should be the number one ranked game on the geek (IMHO). I love this game.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 5:48 pm
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John Weber

(John Weber)

United States
Laurel
Maryland

Bill Crenshaw's sequel, Manifest Destiny, is way better, much smoother (less paperwork etc.), quicker playing and better themed. I sold my copy of AoR for a nice price after MD made it obsolete from my own gaming perspective.

Posted Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:30 am
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Michael Debije

(mi_de)

Netherlands
Eindhoven
The Netherlands

I felt the gameplay of Manifest Destiny made no sense: taking over the Rockies with Professional Sports? Did not work for me, although I would play again.

Posted Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:57 am
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Robert Zwiers

(Roja)

Netherlands
Enschede
Overijssel

Quote:

Although I do like the occasional game of Manifest Destiny, it's not coming near the height on which Age of Renaissance is residing, IMHO.
I can see people like it for its relative quickness and lesser paperwork, but 'better themed' seem to be far from it. Like Michael already said, taking the Rockies with ProSports doesn't really make sense.
I think the theme for Age of Renaissance is quite strong, where cards and advances actually make sense in the advantage they provide...

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Joe H

United States
Aurora
Colorado

I've recently learned this game, and it is awfully good - after 3 plays I think I am ready to compete next time. Thanks for the Manifest Destiny tip - already ordering.

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23. Board Game: Magic Realm [Average Rating:7.05 Overall Rank:453]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Magic Realm - AH#717 - Designed by Richard Hamblen. Released in 1979.

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Posted Mon Dec 4, 2006 12:33 am

Matt

United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota

Played this hundreds of times It rocks!!!!! No other game is like it.

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Alan Lipka

(Lipka149)

United States
Wilmington
North Carolina

Yup, this is a good one.

Best feature is using magic to flip a tile and change the road net.

After 25 years we still point to each other and yell "Bezerker" !!!

Alan

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Larry Crumley

(crumleys)

United States
Saint Louis
Missouri

Greatest game ever of the Fantasy type. No matter how many times you've played it, it's never enough. I just wish more of my friends could understand the rules. Thank god for Realmspeak.

Still have my copy that I bought in 1979. Damn I'm gettin' old!

Posted Wed Aug 1, 2007 6:42 pm
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Ron Pfeiffer

(fuzzyfife)

United States
Surfside Beach,
South Carolina

My first disagreement here. The rule book is long and tedious and the combat rules were in the first edition impossible to understand, by the time they re-wrote the rulebook my friends had moved on to other things...(Magic Realm)

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WORELOF PENDRAGON

(w0relof)

Canada
Kitchener
Ontario

This game is so good .It makes me want to erupt in my own mouth

Posted Thu May 26, 2011 7:35 am
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24. Board Game: Napoleon: The Waterloo Campaign, 1815 [Average Rating:7.25 Overall Rank:513]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

Napoleon - AH#826 - Designed by Tom Dalgleish. Originally released in 1974 by Gamma II. Avalon Hill edition released in 1977.

Columbia Games rereleased this game with additional blocks.

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Robert Taylor-Smith

(flapjackmachine)

Canada
High River
Alberta

Gamma Two Games (Basically) = Columbia Games

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 9:52 am
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25. Board Game: The Russian Campaign [Average Rating:7.13 Overall Rank:485]

Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

The Russian Campaign - AH#718 - Designed by John Edwards. Released in 1977.

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2007 10:21 pm

Paul Glenn

(pfglenn)

United States
Wheaton
Maryland

Originally released, I think, by Jedko Games (John Edwards' company) in Australia.

This is a *great* game, by the way. One of my favorites.

Posted Tue Jan 9, 2007 4:40 pm
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Iain K

(citizen k)

United States
Arvada
Colorado

It was originally, and concurrently released with revised rules by Jedko.

This still hits our table 2-3 times a year. Take a look at my turn summary player aide here on the Geek. It catches the little bits of chrome and pulls them together in one place

Posted Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:38 am
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Chris Storzillo

(CPT Storzo)

United States
Wayne
New Jersey

Re-released by L2 Design Group several years ago, beautiful production values. Additionally, L2 released "Russia Besieged" which supposedly cleaned up some of the "issues" with the original.

Posted Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:14 pm
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Gary Greenhalgh

(halgh45)

United States
Rochester
New York

A garage sale find that I have not yet played.

Posted Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:59 am
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Dave Davis

(DDavis_23)

United States

Ohio

I miss playing this one. It was always a lot of fun and came down to the last turn more than once. I wish I still had it...

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Kevin Whitmore

United States
Albuquerque
New Mexico

This list has taken some considerable amount of time to build. Folly, perhaps. But here it is for your perusal. Avalon Hill games were the gold standard in American gaming for years. I played a lot of these games in bygone days.

Nowadays we have many more games to select from, and old AH games have either been cast aside, forgotten, or possibly updated with better editions or refinements. Charles Roberts games were innovative for 1961, but are now outdated and "old hat" to most wargamers. Likewise games that followed from AH now also show their age, and have declining fan bases.

So why did I build this list? I guess I am just a little soft-hearted towards what AH represented to gaming in my youth. I have been enjoying playing some of AH's very first games in the past year. They are largely a type of game without an audience anymore. But I and my playing partner feel there is some worth in seeing where the ConSim category of games sprang from. Likewise, I feel older AH strategy games (non-wargames) had some value.

So I wondered, How do AH games stack up against modern BGG opinion? Well this list demonstrates this. The numbers will change over time, but a notable number of AH games still are listed in the BGG Top 100. But some of my favorite AH games are not so highly ranked. And a few have received so few ratings to have not yet be ranked.

I hope you might enjoy flipping through this list and seeing games you may love; or games you had almost forgotten you ever played. I encourage readers to rate the games they remember, and if you like, leave a comment about them on this list.

--Kevin Whitmore

Posted Mon Jan 8, 2007 12:49 am
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James Bardsley

(The Bard)

Canada
Oakville
Ontario

Great list. Brings back lots of memories to when TAHGC was king. I made the mistake when computers got popular of selling most of my games and after realizing that they were 2 different beasts and playing a game on a computer was just not the same I had to buy several back again. Thanks to EBay that was possible. Miss The General and Sports Replay though.

Posted Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:25 pm
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(jgatkinsn)

United States
Grant
Alabama

Seems to be missing Battle Cry.

Posted Mon Aug 8, 2011 7:36 pm
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