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Back in October, I did a a list of the 10 types of gamers based on a clustering analysis of Top 10 lists: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/17062

Since then, many more people have created top 10 lists, and I've refined the analysis a little. On natural question is "Why 10?". Well, 10 actually yields a pretty good clustering, but there are techniques to try to pick more optimal values. These techniques involve seeing how much improvement you get for each additional cluster. You stop at the point where improvements start diminishing. Well, with gamers that's at about 10, hence why I picked that last time. This time though, I looked a bit more carefully.

There are basically 3 little plateaus. At 3 clusters, you get a substantial improvement over 2. To get the next big "bump" of improvement, you have to go up to 5 clusters, and to get the remaining bump, you have to go up to 9 clusters. A 10th cluster, helps a little, but not enough to justify it really. So, 3, 5 and 9 are the most statistically significant groupings.

Now, this is a clustering of gamers, but for convenience, I'm going to talk a lot about which cluster a game belongs to or leans toward. What this really means is that gamers who like that game tend to be in that cluster. So "ASL" isn't in a particular cluster, but the gamers who like ASL are. Hence, it's more compact to say "ASL is in this cluster", even though that's not quite right. Deal.

In the previous iteration, I named all of the clusters with descriptive names, and that was somewhat controversial. I'm giving the clusters less controversial names here and folks can discuss what, if any, label is appropriate for a cluster.

So, there are 3 partitionings: 3-cluster, 5-cluster, and 9-cluster groups. I picked generic-ish names for each of the clusters within those partitionings. The percentages are of the roughly 3500 people who have completed top 10 lists.

3-cluster

Core Eurogamers (62%)
Family Eurogamers (27%)
Amerigamers (11%)

5-cluster
Eurogamers-1 (52%)
Eurogamers-2 (19%)
Eurogamers-3 (13%)
Amerigamers-1 (10%)
Amerigamers-2 (6%)

9-cluster
Euro Alpha (30%)
Euro Beta (20%)
Euro Gamma (16%)
Euro Delta (9%)
Euro Epsilon (6%)
Euro Zeta (6%)
Ameri Alpha (7%)
Ameri Beta (4%)
Misc (4%)

The game listed for each cluster is the single game that is most likely to be in the top 10 of members of that cluster. The "Other Games" are other games most likely to appear in the top 10 lists of members of that cluster

I'll try to get the tool up where you can classify yourself according to each partitioning sometime soon. Personally, I'm Core Eurogamer/Eurogamer-1/Euro Alpha

Feel free to add new games to the list, and I'll post info about which clusters they make prominent appearances. I may also delete some entries, or not post about some if it gets too voluminous, or the particular entries don't make any prominent appearances in the clusters.
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Core Eurogamers

Other games: E&T, Power Grid, El Grande, Princes of Florence, Settlers of Catan
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Family Eurogamers

Other games: Settlers of Catan, Ticket To Ride, Memoir '44, Lost Cities, Citadels
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I don't consider M'44 as Family Eurogame because of two reasons: First, a family game should accept up to four (five) players and second, it's a war game (even if light). So I find it very odd to find it here with Carcassonne et al.
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(one should be able to edit one's comments)
I should have added that therefore it's astonishing that M'44 shows up that often in Top 10s of otherwise strictly Eurogamers.
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I have all but one of those (SoC) and have thought about that one, too. Guess I'm pegged.

My point was going to be, though, that, though mine isn't, there are some small (2-people) families out there, and I also don't think all family members have to play all at once for a game to be considered a "family" game. That's not an argument original to me, but it's one I endorse.
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I would have to agree. Memoir '44 seems to be an odd inclusion on that list.
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I think this is an effect of the excessive coarseness of the 3-cluster, but at the same time, it doesn't surprise me that much.

In the 5-cluster, Memoir has relatively wide appeal, except for Eurogamers-3 who don't especially like it and Amerigamers-2 who don't like it at all. I'll add Memoir as an item with it's 5-cluster percentages.
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Amerigamers

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One thing that jumps out at me is that the Amerigamers are instantly into much more complex rules, where as both Eurogamer categories have much simpler rules. Where would Nexus Ops fall in this 3 cluster analysis? Given how M'44 did, I would presume it would be with the family Eurogamers.
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Eurogamers-1

Other games: Power Grid, Caylus, Settlers of Catan, E&T, Princes of Florence
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Eurogamers-2

Other games: Settlers of Catan, Ticekt To Ride, Lost Cities, Citadels
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AHHH!! THE LIGHT!! IT BURNS!!
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Eurogamers-3

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Interesting. Ra seems very much the odd one out in that group.
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Agreed, players that like heavier games do normally dislike lightweights like Ra.
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Interesting that 2 of the 6 exemplar games from Eurogamers-1 and Eurogamers-3 are the same (E&T; Power Grid). There doesn't seem to be nearly as much distinction between 1-3 as either 1-2 or 2-3.
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I love Die Macher and hate Ra! All hail me! :D


(or stone me)
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Amerigamers-1

Other games: Memoir '44, TI3e, Arkham Horror, Descent
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Amerigamers-2

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amerigamers 1 is probably a younger group. With a particular like of fantasy themes. They like simple games with a lot of chrome.

amerigamers 2 is probably a middle aged group. They are your old school wargamers who are used to thick rulebooks, but have recently switched to block games and card driven games. They like simulations.
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Considering that block wargames have been around since '71 or '72, many of us have been playing them a very long time along with cardboard-counter wargames, rather than recently switching.
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Speak for yourself...as I get older, I have less time for big thick wargamer rulebooks.

Amerigamer-1 all the way, baby.
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This group isn't an Amerigamers group at all: Its a wargamers group.
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Philip Thomas wrote:
This group isn't an Amerigamers group at all: Its a wargamers group.

Oh, no. Let's not go there again. As soon as you start that, you get people saying "I'm in this cluster, but I don't like wargames. I just like a bunch of games that tend to be liked by wargamers."

The generic cluster titles are better.
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Euro Alpha

Other games: Caylus, E&T, Princes of Florence, El Grande, Power Grid
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Euro Beta

Other games: Settlers of Catan, Puerto Rico, Ticket to Ride
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Euro Gamma

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Isn't there a bit too much overlap between Alpha, Beta and Gamma? From the games alone, I'm at a loss of how to distinguish them.
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Ok, have seen the comment at the end of the list.
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Euro Delta

Other games: E&T, Memoir '44, Age of Steam
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Euro Epsilon

Other games: Memoir '44, Lost Cities, Shadows over Camelot
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Euro Zeta

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Shouldn't this be called "Euro Knizia"?
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Well, there's a "Z" in each title.

Just a thought...
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Philip Thomas wrote:
again, Wargamers.

Again, that way lies madness.
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Misc

Other games: Heroscape, Munchkin, HeroQuest
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Zendo doesn't appear on a ton of Top 10 lists, and as such, it doesn't tend to be distinctive to any cluster.

That said, the clusters where it is well represented (relatively):

Family Eurogamers (1.4%)
Eurogamers (1.2%)

Eurogamers-2 (1.7%)
Eurogamers-3 (1.3%)
Eurogamers-1 (1.2%)

Euro Delta (2.6%)
Euro Beta (1.2%)

Percentage is percentage of that cluster whose members put Zendo in their top 10.
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Above, it was pointed out that this game seems oddly clustered. I can see what people are saying, but I'm not sure I agree. It is often clustered with the "family games" and is is a somewhat heavier game than most of those. But, my feeling is what defines the family games is more their approachability, not their weight. Maybe?

In the 5-cluster, here's the percentage of people who love (ie, top 10) Memoir '44:


Amerigamers-1 25%
Eurogamers-2 15%
Eurogamers-1 11%
Eurogamers-3 6%
Amerigamers-2 1%
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Another one commented on as odd.

Mostly, Eurogamers like Ra. The Eurogamers-3, who seem to like heavier games more so than others. Maybe Ra is a heavy game in light-game clothes? Or maybe it just bolsters my earlier mentioned "approachability" theory. Ra feels very unapproachable to many non-gamers I've introduced it to.

By cluster, percentage who love Ra:

Eurogamer-3 25%
Eurogamer-1 18%
Eurogamer-2 5%
Amerigamer-1 1%
Amerigamer-2 0%
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Ra is a bit of a brain burner, with lots of complicated scoring rules, despite it's short play time.
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Euro Alpha and Euro Gamma look exactly the same, with Alpha having more games than Gamma. Is there a difference? And what if we don't fit neatly into one of them?
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a) is the top10 data entry position (top1 goes first, top2 second, etc.) important?


No.

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b) I've chosen 5 ameri-1 games and 4 Euro-1, but Euro-2 with 3 entries emerges as my best cluster match. I do consider myself to be an eclectic gamer, but I do tend to like Ameri-1's. How does entry quantity reflect in these selections?


You don't match any of the clusters well, but you match all of them nearly equally poorly (well, except Ameri-1).

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My favourite game is on my least best cluster match. How so?


Because the other 9 don't line up with that one. You actually come very close to matching all 5 clusters equally, just all quite poorly. That is to say, none of the games you've listed are especially frequent on other people's top 10 lists.

Oh, the self qualification tool generates cool graphs now. I'll post a new list about those. They're fun.
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Summary of this and the other clustering lists:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/146623
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Best cluster match quality: 0.786492374727669
100 Eurogamer (Type 3) (42 118)
47 Eurogamer (Type 1) (42 118)
19 Amerigamer (Type 2) (240 84)
14 Eurogamer (Type 2) (42 118)
10 Amerigamer (Type 1) (240)


I was sorta expecting Ameri-2, but apparently none of the miniatures games on my Top 10 is common enough on people's Top 10s to matter.

I'm also somewhat surprised that Modern Art aligns me strongly with Euro-3. It's surely a light euro!
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only four of my top 10 register a result for any category. is that normal? why is that the case?
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