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Oppressed by Pessimists / Fueled by Optimists >> Games with personalities? (v2)
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Oops. I published this earlier but my underlying number crunching had a mistake, which of course I've now fixed.

This is an exercise in statistical curiosity... some game ratings might be dominated by a bunch of pessimists dragging it down, or a bunch of optimists giving it a boost.

There are 25,000 game raters on BGG and 3,500 ranked games. An average ranked game has 260 raters, but that's mostly because a few games have thousands. Half of ranked games have fewer than 90 raters. What if those 90 (or fewer) happen to be characteristically low or high raters, either by chance or because the game attracts mostly negative b*stards to play it?

So I thought I'd check it out. Here's the waffle, followed by the list of most affected games...

First I assigned each user a User Optimism value. This is the average value of their own rating for each game above the game's overall BGG rating. ie how much higher/lower does this user characteristically rate games than everyone else? Raters vary quite a bit in measured "optimism". (Particularly people who only rate one or two games of course.) The standard deviation across all users is about 0.7 of a rating point. The average user optimism is about +0.25 of a rating point, which happens because the more games someone has rated the lower their ratings tend to be so a few pessimistic users can drag all the ratings down. Like this:

Rates # Users Avg Opt Std Dev
1->9 10651 1.03 1.30
->99 11400 0.27 0.67
->999 2876 -0.11 0.56
->9999 10 -0.23 0.51

Then for each ranked game I found the average Optimism for the game's raters. For this bit, I ignored the Optimism rating for any user who rated less than three games, since the granularity of integers would dwarf their optimism measures AND for one-game-raters in particular we'd like to let them have some opinion other than average. Instead I assume anyone with three or less rating has the same Optimism as average everyone else on each of their games.

Then I took the average Optimism and adjusted the game's overall rating, taking into account the Bayesian calculation used on BGG. There's a slight level of approximation because I can't say how many ratings are removed by Aldie's ShillSeeker Filter (tm, pat pend).

The result was a bit of an anticlimax. But you've read this far so you might as well have a look!
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1. Carcassonne [Average Rating:7.58 Overall Rank:53]
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(2000) City Building, Medieval, Tile Placement
Raters: 8907
Avg rater optimism: 0.10 ratings points
Rank change: #43 => #84

Outside shuffles in the top ten games, here's the biggest relative rank demotion, not quite doubling its rank but staying in the top 100. And, incidentally, winding up closer to
#62 => #87 Carcassonne: The City
#91 => #117 Carcassonne: Hunters and Gatherers
#94 => #121 Carcassonne: The Castle
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Posted On: 2007-03-03 01:47:59
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2. Settlers of Catan, The [Average Rating:7.74 Overall Rank:32]
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(1995) Civilization, Trading, Modular Board
Raters: 9302
Avg rater optimism: 0.09 ratings points
Rank change: #24 => #46

Since it turns out that on average raters of fewer games are more optimistic, games with many many ratings are more likely to be boosted with a little optimism. So it's no surprise to see the most rated game on BGG here on this list. (Puerto Rico certainly has a little optimism behind it too, but it turns out not enough to drop it from #1 when it's "corrected".)
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Posted On: 2007-03-03 01:48:51
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3. Memoir '44 [Average Rating:7.70 Overall Rank:33]
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(2004) Wargame, World War II, Modular Board, Campaign/Battle Card Driven, Co-operative Play, Hand Management, Dice Rolling
Raters: 3753
Avg rater optimism: 0.01 ratings points
Rank change: #19 => #30
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4. Clue FX [Average Rating:6.31 Overall Rank:1501]
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(2003) Electronic, Bluffing, Deduction, Paper-and-Pencil
Raters: 145
Avg rater optimism: 0.41 ratings points
Rank change: #1131 => #1757
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5. Ticket to Ride [Average Rating:7.62 Overall Rank:43]
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(2004) Transportation, Trains, Travel, Hand Management, Point to Point Movement
Raters: 5673
Avg rater optimism: 0.03 ratings points
Rank change: #33 => #51
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6. Munchkin 4: The Need for Steed [Average Rating:7.11 Unranked]
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(2005) Card Game, Humor, Fantasy, Role Playing
Raters: 119
Avg rater optimism: 0.35 ratings points
Rank change: #632 => #968
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7. Risk - The Lord of the Rings - Trilogy Edition [Average Rating:6.57 Overall Rank:710]
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(2003) Wargame, Miniatures, Fantasy, Adventure, Movies/TV/Radio theme, Novel-based, Area-Impulse, Dice Rolling
Raters: 673
Avg rater optimism: 0.20 ratings points
Rank change: #606 => #900
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8. Munchkin Bites! [Average Rating:6.48 Overall Rank:873]
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(2004) Card Game, Humor, Fantasy, Science Fiction, Horror, Trading, Role Playing, Dice Rolling, Variable Phase Order
Raters: 327
Avg rater optimism: 0.26 ratings points
Rank change: #875 => #1285
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9. Warhammer Quest [Average Rating:7.43 Overall Rank:232]
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(1995) Fantasy, Adventure, Tile Placement, Co-operative Play, Role Playing
Raters: 419
Avg rater optimism: 0.13 ratings points
Rank change: #229 => #334
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10. Settlers of Canaan, The [Average Rating:7.23 Overall Rank:367]
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(2002) Civilization, Ancient, Set Collection, Trading, Hand Management
Raters: 453
Avg rater optimism: 0.15 ratings points
Rank change: #262 => #379
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11. RoboRally [Average Rating:7.40 Overall Rank:89]
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The next ten biggest relative movers:

Stratego: Star Wars
(2002) Fighting, Fantasy, Science Fiction, Secret Unit Deployment
Raters: 112
Avg rater optimism: 0.42 ratings points
Rank change: #1600 => #2313

Star Munchkin
(2002) Card Game, Humor, Science Fiction, Hand Management
Raters: 564
Avg rater optimism: 0.21 ratings points
Rank change: #851 => #1215

RoboRally
(1994) Racing, Science Fiction, Simultaneous Action Selection
Raters: 3646
Avg rater optimism: 0.00 ratings points
Rank change: #66 => #94

Dungeoneer: Den of the Wererats
(2004) Card Game, Dice, Fantasy, Exploration, Adventure, Action Point Allowance System, Tile Placement, Modular Board, Variable Player Powers, Hand Management, Dice Rolling
Raters: 174
Avg rater optimism: 0.23 ratings points
Rank change: #671 => #948

Risk: Godstorm
(2004) Dice, Fighting, Mythology, Area-Impulse
Raters: 437
Avg rater optimism: 0.18 ratings points
Rank change: #688 => #966

Carcassonne: The City
(2004) City Building, Medieval, Tile Placement
Raters: 1051
Avg rater optimism: -0.01 ratings points
Rank change: #62 => #87

Dragon Strike
(1993) Fighting, Fantasy, Exploration, Adventure, Variable Player Powers, Role Playing
Raters: 147
Avg rater optimism: 0.33 ratings points
Rank change: #1631 => #2282

Dungeons & Dragons Board Game
(2002) Fighting, Miniatures, Fantasy, Exploration, Adventure, Horror, Modular Board, Variable Player Powers, Co-operative Play, Role Playing, Dice Rolling
Raters: 260
Avg rater optimism: 0.20 ratings points
Rank change: #698 => #975

HeroScape Master Set: Rise of the Valkyrie
(2004) Miniatures, Fantasy, Science Fiction, Adventure, Modular Board, Hex-and-Counter, Dice Rolling
Raters: 2204
Avg rater optimism: 0.08 ratings points
Rank change: #118 => #164

Risk - Star Wars: The Clone Wars Edition
(2005) Wargame, Movies/TV/Radio theme, Dice Rolling
Raters: 327
Avg rater optimism: 0.21 ratings points