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Spiel des Jahres Face-Off: Round 1
Joe Huber
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I recently heard someone (who I shall allow to remain anonymous) mention that they felt Zooloretto was their least favorite of the SdJ winners. Which had me wondering - if comparing the games directly, which Spiel des Jahres winner would BGG choose as the _best_ of the lot?

There have now been 29 SdJ winners, so we'll give the three highest rated winners (El Grande, Settlers, and Ticket To Ride) a bye. So to start, we need to weed 26 SdJ winners down to 13.

For each pair, please give a thumbs up to the SdJ winner you prefer. Please feel welcome to comment on _why_ as well - I'm sure, from a historical perspective, the comments will be the most interesting aspect - but only thumbs will be counted.

The results will be taken, and the next round started, on Friday, August 10th.
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Posted On: 2007-08-07 10:23:27
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1. Carcassonne [Average Rating:7.57 Overall Rank:52]
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Do you prefer the 2001 SdJ winner, and #4 seed, Carcassonne...
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Posted On: 2007-08-07 09:51:51
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Jeroen van der Valk
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This was my first modern Eurogame, and the game that started me back in boardgaming 4 years ago after a ten year hiatus. It's offspring is certainly better, but the blue box will always have a place in my collection.
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2. Enchanted Forest [Average Rating:5.82 Overall Rank:2423]
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...or the 1982 SdJ winner, and #29 seed, Enchanted Forest?
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Chris Bailey
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What do you think of this game Joe? Have you played it? I'm not familiar with it but if it won the SDJ...
Simon Hilsdorf
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If I may answer this question: Sagaland (or Enchanted Forest) is perhaps the SdJ that aimed most for a younger audience.
You run arround in the forest revealing images of famous german fairy tails under the trees. When you find the symbol everyone is currently looking for (as indicated by different cards) you race to the castle to claim that card by showing the correct smybol.

It's basically a roll and move game with elements of memory. While it's surely not a strategy game it is quite entertaining. We played it very very often when I was young and it was even one of the more popular early Spiel des Jahres.

The qualitiy, especially of the thick cards, was absolutely brilliant. Also that this game is still in print and has undergone several graphical reworks (to the worse I have to add) shows that it still sells well.
Overall a very worthy SdJ winner but again it's clearly one that aims for the younger audience or families.
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I feel like Davy Crockett. At this time, I'm the lone thumb for Enchanted Forest against 41 of General Santa Ana's Carc lovers. Given these two, I'd play Enchanted Forest 5 times before sitting down for Carcassonne once.
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Joe, I LOVE Enchanted Forest. I love the movement rules, I love the trees, I love the memory element that makes it just tough enough for me that figuring it out is deeply satisfying.

I get so confused trying to figure out the farmer rules that I haven't played Carcassonne for ages. Plus it has so many expansions that I've literally seen people discussing which pigs/inns/counts/towers/rivers to include that I could have played most of a game of Enchanted Forest in the time it took to decide how to trick up this particular game of Carcassonne.
Mike B
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What Randy said. I've never played Enchanted Forest but I'm pretty sure I'll prefer it to Carcassone.

So thumbsup for Enchanted Forest.
Joe Huber
ixnay66 wrote:
What do you think of this game Joe? Have you played it? I'm not familiar with it but if it won the SDJ...


It's a decent little game - there's a memory element, as a result of which it often is considered a children's game, but it's a fine family game.

I prefer Carcassonne, but not by any huge amount...
Stephen Groves
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Yes, this is definitely more of a kids game than we see in recent SDJ. It involves luck and uses a die which don't seem to be in favour with "true gamers". However, it is a lot of fun for anyone who plays it and doesn't outstay its welcome. Both are great games and both deserve merit. It is hard to go up against Carcassonne though as that is a great bridging game between light games and the more thinkie ones(the greatest I've found).
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sevorges wrote:
However, it is a lot of fun for anyone who plays it and doesn't outstay its welcome.

I like the game just fine, but it definitely outstays its welcome from time to time. The "land on you and knock you back to start" rule can create a really annoying series of unproductive moves.
3. Tikal [Average Rating:7.47 Overall Rank:67]
Joe Huber
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Posted On: 2007-08-07 09:49:30
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James Davis
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anything is better than rummikub
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Michael D. Kelley
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Anything, perhaps, except for this beautiful but analysis-paralyzing game.
Charles Hasegawa
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jamesdavis wrote:
anything is better than rummikub

Untrue. Rummikub is one of the un-sung games that gets overlooked a lot just because its available commercially everywhere. This game rewards quick and clever pattern matching. I think I enjoy Tikal better, but Rummikub is not a bad game.
Mike B
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