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Random list of games I will never ever own, and for the life of me, cannot imagine why anyone else would ever own them. They range from "I dont have multiple lifetimes in which to play this beast" to "what drugs were they on when they made this?"

I've left GO off the list because that game is played by NINJAS, and the last thing I need is to offend GEEK NINJAS. (but yeah GO is like...uhm...a cult or something.)
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1. Board Game: Dear Abby [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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This one is filed under "I dont get it."

Dear Abby, for those of you who just spent the last 30 years inside a wine barrel, is a world renown columnist who single-handedly invented the self-help industry. She would be its first 'guru' with her weekly newspaper columns advising people which fork is for lobster and which husband is for leaving.

I cannot even speculate as to how such a game is actually played, but given that I never found these articles (many rumored to be apocryphal fabrications) all that entertaining, I certainly wouldn't want to find myself rolling dice and playing games about them. If for some reason I do, I want to be the top hat. I'm not even sure that makes sense, but anytime I am about to play a game for which I have no idea how its played, I blurt out "I want to be the top hat." on the slim chance that there actually IS a top hat in the game, and there exists a marginal opportunity for me to be it.
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Maybe if you ask us some oblique questions regarding this game, you'll solve the mystery of the Abby.
2. Board Game: Deluxe Pass the Pigs [Average Rating:5.65 Overall Rank:4221]
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okay so I own Pass the Pigs ($2.25 thrift store find, July 2002 thank you very much) and while it is one of those games I decided I should own as opposed to one of those games I decided I should PLAY, I like it for its simplicity (and for the naughty MAKIN BACON rule that you have to pretend doesnt exist when the pastor and his wife come over for dinner and games). As an aside, if you DO have a pastor and his wife come over for dinner and games, I strongly suggest this one. The whole 'dear god dont let it be MAKIN BACON' thing has a very Russian Roulette vibe to it. Shake the cup roll the pigs *CLICK* whew! next?

Anyway, Deluxe seems to be a Vegas edition with dueling pig dice and a wagering system not unlike the raffle wheels at your local state fair. You drop some chips on whatever combinations you think will hit or something of that nature, bur me its all about aforementioned heart pounding MAKIN BACON roll that you just KNOW the pastor's wife is going to get EACH AND EVERY TIME THE BROAD ROLLS THE PIG-DICE. Its like the whole fishes and loaves miracle only more naughty and anti-semitic.
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and for the naughty MAKIN BACON rule that you have to pretend doesnt exist when the pastor and his wife come over for dinner and games


I don't know who your pastor is but as a United Methodist pastor I can tell you have to get much more blue then this to offend me and many other pastors I know on this site.

By the way, what if the pastor brings over her husband? Or his partner?
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and for the naughty MAKIN BACON rule that you have to pretend doesnt exist when the pastor and his wife come over for dinner and games


I don't know who your pastor is but as a United Methodist pastor I can tell you have to get much more blue then this to offend me and many other pastors I know on this site.

By the way, what if the pastor brings over her husband? Or his partner?


stop trying to make trouble. You should know better than to bait arguments with people.

You're a pastor, remember.
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I was not trolling. You made a stereo-typical comment about my profession and I have a right to defend against such comments.
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Prestonisnormal wrote:
I was not trolling. You made a stereo-typical comment about my profession and I have a right to defend against such comments.


I'm sure he's just funnin' ya. I know the 2 pastors I know wouldn't get upset about the Makin Bacon rule...but some pastors (and people of just about any profession for that matter) are uptight like that. You're not, and I applaud you for it.

And please don't make us qualify every statement such as "Pastor and his wife" with things like "Pastor and his/her wife/husband/partner" just to cover every possibility.
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unixrevolution wrote:
Prestonisnormal wrote:
I was not trolling. You made a stereo-typical comment about my profession and I have a right to defend against such comments.



And please don't make us qualify every statement such as "Pastor and his wife" with things like "Pastor and his/her wife/husband/partner" just to cover every possibility.


Ya, you don't have to qualify, this was a bit much. Feeling a little randy I was.
3. Board Game: Smokers Wild [Average Rating:4.68 Overall Rank:5135]
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Sparing us the whole "Avalon Hill did or didn't make this game' controversy that seems to arise EVERY SINGLE TIME someone attributes ANY SINGLE GAME to Avalon Hill, for the sake of argument I'm going to call this an Avalon Hill game. If that gets your Victory Games dander in a ruffle, then good. Your dander needs ruffling. I grew up in Baltimore. There is only Avalon Hill. NO OTHERS.

Be that as it may, this was one of those early 80s games that made me, even at that youthful age of late-teens, predict the inevitable downfall of AH. It was in the section of their catalog with other blockbusters like Dr Ruth's Game of Good Sex, Drinkers Wild, and a few random 'adult sex games' that made me wonder if Avalon Hill didn't just have some kind of Federal Contract that paid them bonus money anytime they printed something onto cardboard. To think that the same guys that made The Longest Day also made this game - its like learning that Chaucer also wrote the classic 'here i sit...' poem found in every truck stop toilet stall from Missouri to California. Anytime you even dare to read Canterbury Tales, you'll hear that poem in the back of your mind and just wonder what kind of drugs that guy was on at the time.

This game could have been called: "Officially and Completely Out of Ideas" and I at least could have given them proper credit for being honest about it.
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4. Board Game: The Longest Day [Average Rating:7.28 Overall Rank:819]
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Speaking of...

This is a game I'm supposed to love and this is a game that I'm supposed to sell my kidney in order to buy off E-Bay, but you know what? There are limits to my obsession. If boardgames were not my 'thing' and oh say illegal narcotics were, The Longest Day would be like diving into a swimming pool of straws and cocaine. The results would be instant heart attack.

Sporting more cardboard counters than any SIX Avalon Hill games, this guy is so heavy, if you Ebay for it, the shipping will easily cost twice as much as the actual auction itself. It has seven large boards included and the one and only time I ever saw it set up for play was at a convention in Baltimore and they literally had two ping-pong tables side by side for this guy. There were LADDERS AROUND THE TABLE for gamers to get a better view of it. There were FUNNY STICKS WITH FORKS ON THE END to push markers around like you see in almost every war movie ever filmed. According to veteran players (who really should qualify for the same benefits of ACTUAL VETERANS just for playing this beast), the game itself can take months to play. MONTHS TO PLAY.

I break paragraph to let that sink in. Remember something important: this is an "Ameritrash" game. That means early on in the game, with enough unfortunate rolls of the dice, you can be forced to play out the entire remainder of the game knowing full well that you aren't going to win. Now in a game like Advanced Squad Leader, that means you might spend the remainder of an hour watching the other guy destroy your armies. In this game, you're going to spend the remainder of THE CALENDAR YEAR watching some guy destroy your 800 individual cardboard tiles. How horribly large is this game? Imagine yourself setting it up. It has 1500+ cardboard counters. The rules say things like "place counters 522,928,382,500-720 on hex JJJAX18052" (not really -arc) and you can repeat that oh about six hundred more times.

This isn't a game for the obsessed among us. This is a game for the 'need supervised professional care' among us. If you own this game, STOP MAKING PEOPLE SCARED OF ME!!
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well i've had professional care and i still like this game :laugh:

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Though I covet this game and have dreamed to own it, you do make a very reasonable point about why anyone should own this game. I too saw it at a convention and found the enormity of it to be very appealling. Though sadly this could have been an adolescent sense of insecurity and inadequacy that I may not have overcome completely. My Ahab-like dream is to have this enormous game on a high shelf and on one very fine day as I go to remove it from my shelf it slips and crushes me in an avalanche of cardboard pieces and boards. My personal Hunter S. Thompson exit from this odd world, but only when I'm too old to know better. :p
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Dude, this is not Ameritrash. This is one of those historical recreations that people carry out, like those guys who dress up and fight the battle of Gettysburg. We back slowly away from anyone who suggests a game with this many chits.
5. Board Game: Episcopopoly [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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right so I never even heard of Monopoly before I found BGG...

only joking of course. In truth however, of all the hundreds of cloned -opoly titles we are presently awash in here at BGG, this is one I never heard of, and one I probably would never have imagined. Considering that the mission statement for all Protestant flavored faiths being apostolic in nature (that means they're supposed to tell you all about themselves so you join them), I dont understand how this one works.

"Well you can't pay rent at my 5-star synagogue, so you're going to have to foreclose on the mortgage for your homeless shelter and your Youth Group trailer in the parking lot. And Speaking of foreclosing on the mortgage for Youth Group trailers, where do you go to church because ours is great and our Youth Group trailer is already paid off so no chance of that being foreclosed har dee har har but really, where do you go?"

Given the choice. I'd play Pass the Pigs instead. MAKIN BACON, BABY! MAKIN BACON! Although this IS Episcopalian. I wonder if there's a "Pass the Rattlesnakes" version.

(disclaimer: I realize not ALL Episcopalians handle rattlesnakes. Only the ones on or around the Mississippi do. I spelled the name right, so I should be spared any indignant wrath for that feat alone. No offense was intended. You dont have NINJAS do you?)
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"Episcopalian Rattlesnake Ninjas" would look great on a t-shirt. Or as a band name.
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Prestonisnormal wrote:

I am not sure what small e epsicopal church you have but your comment will be associated with the larger denomination. You can't make claims like that and not expect people to call you on it. Its not trolling it is clarifying a misleading and ignorant statement even if it was done in humor.


Well, I can only speak for myself, but I found Arcadian's over-the-top characterisations funny and not serious at all. Your posts in this list, on the other hand, do tend to strenghten the stereotype of pastors as no-fun, uptight and easily offended.

Not attacking you, mind you. Just a little constructive criticism.
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Mr.Baggins wrote:
Prestonisnormal wrote:

I am not sure what small e epsicopal church you have but your comment will be associated with the larger denomination. You can't make claims like that and not expect people to call you on it. Its not trolling it is clarifying a misleading and ignorant statement even if it was done in humor.


Well, I can only speak for myself, but I found Arcadian's over-the-top characterisations funny and not serious at all. Your posts in this list, on the other hand, do tend to strenghten the stereotype of pastors as no-fun, uptight and easily offended.

Not attacking you, mind you. Just a little constructive criticism.



No offense taken :) I was a tad harsh and I indeed do have a wicked humor that gets me in trouble all the time. Arcaiden is probably a great guy as well that I would enjoy gaming with.

My main issue was just the claim of a specific and major church doing something they don't do. If they did do it, then by all means poke fun.

If it had been stated that some Christian Church was picking up snakes then I would have not blinked an eye at it, there are idiots everywhere wanting to spend the night in the ER.
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I'm still looking for a copy of Benedictine Monkey Auto Races.


I'll trade you if you have a copy of Busen Mormon. :D
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    Off the top of my head I can think of at least five church organizations that call themselves "Episcopalian" including mine, the Traditional Episcopalian Church in America. They cover a vast breadth of tradition and culture. The mainstream Episcopal communion is in more than a bit of a crisis right now because of this.

    I thought the post was funny as hell, especially foreclosing on homeless shelters.

    What is beyond the pale is that at no point did you mention Gin, which is the one unifying principle across the entire episcopate. Whenever you find four Episcopalians, you'll always find a fifth.

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I am easily confused and this list did nothing to help remedy that condition. The good thing is that bacon was mentioned and so now I'm gonna go make some bacon... the real kind, not that icky sex stuff.
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In the spirit of transparency, I want to footnote this all but forgotten geeklist (thanks for the gg, tho) to let it be known that Preston Fuller did send me geekmail and clarified that he wasn't setting out to intentionally cause any disruptions. He only wanted to educate by way of turnabout, that being reportedly fair play and whatnot.

In essence, he turned my other cheek for me. It stung a bit, but its not like he punched my cat or anything serious.

While Im freshly low on unturned cheeks, I thought Id offer a bit of fairness of my own and point out that I, myself, am a full-blooded Calvinist. You may google that if you wish, and I invite you to drop back in and poke all sorts of silly little fun about it.
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