Yep you swapped the hands and pictures, now both sides know eachother's hands, sorry dude, good idea though.

Spot on, I'd say. Lost Alien Warship is least likely to be useful. New Economy would work quite well with a consumption-heavy strategy, which this hand seems to be headed for. The only question is whether to ditch the Rebel Miners or Prosperous World. Prosperous World is a little expensive for what you get, so I think that's the right choice too.

Agreed.

Voting done.

Cards Discarded.
Lost Alien Warship
Prosperous World

Long Term View:

We are holding 'New Economy' which is going to give us 1VP per world with a consume power. We have one out as our starting card and two in hand. We should build a few worlds and then go into a produce\trade or sell mode.

It's early of course, but we are nicely set up for that 6 card.

We don't have small developments to play (to benefit from a Develop action card), nor do we have a windfall world to leech upon the "Consume / Sell action" Alpha Centauri is bound to select.
I would then Explore at +1/+1 and try to Settle (playing New Vinland if we didn't draw anything good). Develop could be an option but it seems too risky to me.

I agree.

I suspect some Red players to be answering our questionnaire...
Suggestion to Consume Trade + Consume 2xVPs when we have no goods produced doesn't make much sense to me !

Again agree. The hand is straight forward for now.

Voting Done.

Actions Selected.
Explore +1,+1
Settle

I would keep the Gem World (cheap to place, rewards with cards when producing) which we could place this turn (instead of New Vinland). Then, we already keep a military world in hand without capability to place it... Let's keep Galactic Survey SETI which is easy to get points from and drop the Rebel Warrior Race... We don't know when and if we'll get a space marine in the coming turns.

Yep. Dump the rebels. I agree that Gem World is the card to play. We can produce next round (getting the card) and then consider settling on New Vineland before we trade.

You discard Rebel Warrior Race.

Gem World settle...

So would I but shall we take the risk? If we don't have any proper world to settle or if its cost is too expensive, we'll get into troubles.

cost to settle poll is up.

You will recieve 1 card settle bonus.
I will show that when you have discarded.

There is no Trade consume phase for blue team so you can choose your settle cost and turn 2 actions...

Where is the discard question?

I have moved it and placed it in sequence below.

Vote again here, blue team

I voted for Seti and Miners. I wouldn't vote Seti, but the will of blue is clearly that way and I don't want a bug BGG bug to mess us up.

Ok for the sake of keeping the game moving I am going to go with the result above.

I believe from memory SETI was it anyway so lets go with that.

Poll Closed.
Cards discarded are:
Rebel Miners and
Galctic Survey: SETI.

and the card for the settle bonus is:
Tourist World

Depends a smidge on what we get in the bonus card, but I say we go for settling another blue planet, then produce on both of them. If we're planning to produce, we should try to make sure that it's better than whatever Red can produce.

We still could if we draw a cheap Development from our Explore action... Now, would it be worth? It all depends of the card and if they settle or not...

Looking at the poll, some people must be voting for Settle+Produce...

Those people care to explain their reasoning?

Turn 2 Actions Chosen
Explore +1,+1
Produce

and they picked Develop and Settle, so looks like our choice was good.

These pretty much look like cash to me. Galactic Renaissance might be ok, but it looks like our good consume power is going to come from Tourist World and not Galactic Trendsetters, so that diminishes its usefulness. Pan-Galactic League looks like the least useful, but I think the two we keep are just going to get spent anyway.

This is a good point. Part of me really wants to get the Tourist world into play, but I don't know if it's worth it...

Never mind. I'll read more closely next time. I'm confused though - if we play NV this time, even if we get Earth's lost Colony out, how are you getting us 4 cards a turn off the produce/consume? Also, I don't know what we'd pay for Earth's Lost Colony with...

Turn 2 Explore Action result.

Pan Galactic League has been Discarded.

Consume via NV (goods from NV) => 2 cards
Consume via EE (goods from GW) => 1 card (+1/2 VP)
Produce via GW => 1 card

Ok, I have to starting checking this at night my time. Good choice.

I think we want to settle New Vinland and spend the two cards we got this turn right?

I was thinking +1,+1 and Consume X2, then doing Settle and produce before going into full consume X2 then produce mode.

Another vote for New Vinland. Agree on getting the consume thing going as soon as possible, settle Tourist World next turn also if possible.

Another way to do polls is just to post one comment per card, then everyone Thumbs the one (or ones) they want to develop or pay with.

Are you sure we shouldn't keep Galactic Renaissance and discard New Economy? If we got all 24 VP chips it would be worth at least 8. Unlikely we'll get them all, but if we Consume x2 on most turns, we will get most of them. We'll crank up to 6 VPs per turn. Our opponent, probably only 1 or 2. At that ratio we'd get 18 VPs worth 6 additional points.

Will New Economy be worth 6 points? Ok yeah I guess it will be. 2 for itself, plus 4 for Epsilon Eridani, Earth's Lost Colony, New Vinland, and Tourist World. Although we might decide not to build Earth's Lost Colony, if a better way to produce a third good comes along. For example, a brown, green, or yellow windfall world might be ok.

I guess it mainly comes down to which one will get additional points. With Galactic Renaissance, four cards in the deck would be worth 3 points to us. With New Economy, any development with a consume power is worth 2 points to us. Ok, those are probably more plentiful and cheaper. So I agree keep New Economy.

I agree. Let's do so as long as the polls are not working.

Red Team just Developed Diversified Economy.

Upto Settle phase now for both teams.

Thanks

This is excellent for us. In order to benefit from it, they will have to settle in the coming turns. We could then focus on produce / consume.

We are waiting on the RED TEAM to complete their settle action and discard. Once that is done I can update the board and we can move onto turn 3.

Explore +1,+1

They only have 4 cards in hand... They are dry.
I don't think they will Settle nor Develop. They need cards.
- Either they go along the path they've built (Produce + other action)
- Or they go for Settle (windfall world) / Sell

We can guess that they don't have any windfall world... Else, they would have played it this turn (unless it is the card they drawn from our "Explore" action"). So, Settle is unlikely.

A sure thing is that we need to Consume / x2VP in order to draw cards.
Do we need to Settle? It would be nice but we would like them to explore. Would they do that? Maybe...
If we explore, we are losing 1 turn in the production battle. They have 4 cards in hand which may mean that they would have to sacrifice nice cards in order to place a production world.
On the other hand, Settling is accelerating their machine.

I'm not convinced about the Explore... I feel like they will explore this turn but I may be wrong.

Red likely already has a world in-hand in a third color in order to have developed Diversified Economy. They probably settled the Ark World first to take advantage of it's production power. So, I believe they would choose settle if that world is playable at this moment. But, if it's too expensive, they will delay it until next turn. Their other action is very likely to be Consume/Trade. So,

If they have a settle-able world, they would: Settle, Consume/Trade (hoping for us to produce).

If they do not have a settle-able world, they would: Consume/Trade, Produce.

Of the two, I think the 2nd option is more likely. Either way, they'll end up with 10 cards in hand, a good on the Ark World (and maybe also on their windfall), and either have played or are about to play their 3rd color for Diversified Economy.

So, how do we counter this? I suggest: Explore/+1,+1; then Settle. The idea is to gain 2 cards from Explore, allowing us to play Tourist World during our settle without that much pain, and piggyback on their likely actions (their Consume/Trade will net us 3 cards and 1 VP, almost as good as our own Consume/x2 action; and, if they produce, that's just gravy). We would get our big Consume power on the table, and avoid aiding them by Producing for them. Of course, if they don't Produce, we would be set back a turn, but then, so would they.

Produce comes after Consume/Trade, so they would get nothing for Consume/Trade. The only way they could get something for Consume/Trade is if they settle a windfall world.

They will definitely Produce.
They will probably not Consume.
I think they will quite likely Settle, to get a third color of world to produce on.

We must definitely Consume before they Produce.

If we Settle, we want to Explore first, so we can Settle Earth's Lost Colony and keep Tourist World and New Economy. Since they are likely to Settle and not Explore, it's up to us to Explore. So Explore +1/+1.

Consume 2x VPs or Consume/Trade? We have two goods and will have three consume powers if we settle Earth's Lost Colony. With Consume 2x VPs, we can get:

4 VPs, 1 card (Epsilon Eridani and Earth's Lost Colony)
2 VPs, 3 cards (Epsilon Eridani and New Vinland)

With Consume/Trade we can get:

0 VPs, 4 cards (trade blue and New Vinland)

There are other options than above but they are all worse in VPs or cards and worse or the same in the other.

Before Consume of this round, if they Settle, we expect to have 3 cards. By Settle next round, we would ideally have 6 cards, so we can Settle Tourist World and keep New Economy. So I think Consume 2x VPs is definitely enough. If we take 2VPs and 3 cards, we'll already have enough. Or, we can take 4VPs and 1 card, and Explore +1/+1 next round.

More cash.
edit, found it now. Settle and Consume Trade, interesting.

Thumb this comment to not settle this turn.