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When in the course of human events the requisite number of days have passed to where I have seen the Dark Knight more times than most everyone else and I have taken the proper time to reflect upon my encyclopedic knowledge of the Tim Burton 1989 original, I am ready to proclaim insights and theories on the emerging debate that no doubt will continue with cinemaphiles and fan-boys for ages. For all those requiring a foundation upon which to launch their own diatribes, I present to you the great debate of Joker: Jack or Heath?
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Posted On: 2008-07-23 10:30:55
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1. GeekList: Reasons Why The Dark Knight Ruled
 
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As a film actor, no one else comes close to the record of success of Mr. Jack Nicholson in roles requiring the crazy or the evil. Long before he took the role of the Joker, Jack had already played two of the definitive crazy roles of all time in a man just on the edge in Cuckoo's Nest and a man pushed way over the edge in The Shining. Find me an actor with a better track record on crazy than Jack. Not so much.
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Posted On: 2008-07-23 10:00:33
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Gregory Wong
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Brad Pitt did a pretty good job in The Twelve Monkeys.
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saxophone wrote:
Brad Pitt did a pretty good job in The Twelve Monkeys.


And Kalifornia ...
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bucklen_uk wrote:
saxophone wrote:
Brad Pitt did a pretty good job in The Twelve Monkeys.


And Kalifornia ...


and possibly Fight Club.
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Find me an actor with a better track record on crazy than Jack.


Gary Oldman. Who, as the Dark Night presumably shows, has a bit of range as well.

If you were to rephrase the question as:

Find me an actor with a better track record on Jack Nicholson than Jack Nicholson, then I'd grant your point.

Don't get me wrong, he's not a bad actor by a long shot, but he's not exactly a versatile one, either. I've seen more surprising scenes from Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.
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Nicholson is just teeth and bad attitude.

Bruce Dern knows how to play crazy.
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Bart Vandermeulen
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Nicolas Cage;
One of my all time favorite actors.
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Find me an actor with a better track record on crazy than Jack.


Gary Oldman. Who, as the Dark Night presumably shows, has a bit of range as well.


We are getting a little OT, but Gary Oldman has played some crazy parts. Watch him in: Leon: The Professional, Bram Stokers Dracula, True Romance, Fifth Element, and you can see the evil, demented, off balanced roles he plays and plays well.
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JohnRayJr wrote:
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Find me an actor with a better track record on crazy than Jack.


Gary Oldman. Who, as the Dark Night presumably shows, has a bit of range as well.


We are getting a little OT, but Gary Oldman has played some crazy parts. Watch him in: Leon: The Professional, Bram Stokers Dracula, True Romance, Fifth Element, and you can see the evil, demented, off balanced roles he plays and plays well.


How I know Gary Oldman is a great actor:
1.) Sid and Nancy
2.) True Romance
3.) JFK
4.) Bram Stoker's Dracula.
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And how could anyone forget Gary Oldman in "The Professional"?
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Thankfully both Mr. Burton and Mr. Nicholson had ample source material to work with thanks to the re-imagining of the classic Batman vs. Joker comic theme as worked to manic perfection in the Frank Miller graphic novels that came out just a few years before Tim Burton got to make Batman. Before that monumental event in comics history, the perception of the Joker character by most was just that of a nasty clown. Cesar Romero took the role so slightly that he didn't even bother to shave off his mustache before putting on the makeup. Thankfully he had a wonderfully manic laugh to fall back on.
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Posted On: 2008-07-23 10:03:27
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Except that Burton didn't read comic books.
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I kinda like the idea that Romero didn't shave off his mustache. It made him just a wee bit more creepy. Funny though, when I was a kid, I was offended by the idea, and thought the opposite. As an adult, I've seen some of Romero's films from his "heart-throb" days, and have come to enjoy him completly.
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Tim Burton is a hack. Jack Nicholson saved that movie.

-Will
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