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When I was a kid I read superhero comic books. I wasn't an avid reader and I know some folks collected them but I didn't collect them, I just read them for what they were. Entertainment. My favorites were the Fantastic Four, The Flash and Ironman. As an adult I still like the idea of the classic superheros. While I gave up reading the comic books themselves when I became a teen I do still enjoy the superhero movies. I don't know if it brings me back to my childhood days or what. I just like them.

This summer has been a boon for those who like the classic superheros and of course superhero movies. There's been 3 this year with Ironman and Batman being monster hits and the Incredible Hulk also doing quite well. So seeing as I am not the only one who likes superhero movies I thought it would be kind of cool to take a look at some of the great films of the genre, some of the bad and some of the future films coming down the pike.

Since superhero movies tend to go in a series I am not going to do an entry for each Christopher Reeves Superman film for example. However I will do separate entires for the new Christian Bale Batman film from the previous series started with Michael Keaton.
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1. Board Game: UNO - Superman [Average Rating:4.70 Unranked]
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Superman (1978)

Sequels:
Superman II (1980)
Superman III (1983)
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)

Hero:
Christopher Reeve as Superman

Main Villains:
Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor
Terence Stamp as General Zod

Probably the first big budget superhero film. Directed by Richard Donner, the first and second films were filmed simultaneous until they started to basically run out of money. At that point principle photography on the second film stopped and all attention focused on completing the first film. After the first film was released the second film was completed but with the Producers firing Richard Donner and hiring Richard Lester to complete the film.

This film is a true classic and for many Christopher Reeve was and will always be Superman. His performance as the Man of Steel was great but it was his performance at Clark Kent that truly sold the whole package. Gene Hackman was a great villain. Unfortunately after the first two films the series took a downward turn resulting in the goofy Superman III with Richard Pryor and the downright horrid Superman IV Quest for Peace.

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Just to let you know, it's Christopher Reeve.
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Richard Pryor wasn't the goofiest thing about Superman III! Wasn't that the one where the robot accountant fought superman?
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Superman II goes not my list of great sequel films (a small list to be sure). Kneel before Zod!
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We had a fellow in our cw reenactment group with the last name Kent, I thought it would have been funny if they had named their son Clark.
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Mention should be made of Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut. It's an interesting alternate take on Superman II. Don't watch it expecting it to be a big improvement over the original though.
2. Board Game: UNO - Superman Returns [Average Rating:4.62 Unranked]
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Superman Returns (2006)

Hero:
Brandon Routh as Superman

Main Villains:
Kevin Spacey as Lex Luther

This film is sort of a sequel to the Christopher Reeves Superman II. Mind you it's likely a good idea that we forget that Superman III and IV ever happened.

The plot itself is kind of funky with the is he or isn't he the father of Lous Lane's son. Kevin Spacey does a great job as Lex Luther as does Brandon Routh filling the shoes of the late great Christopher Reeves. In theory a sequel is in the works with director Bryan Singer and Brandon Routh set to return but so far nothing concrete is in motion.
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I thought Spacey was terrible as Luthor. He wasn't doing his own interpretation of the character but was instead just mimicking Hackman. I would have much rather seen Spacey do his own version.

The movie also did not have enough destruction as I would expect from a Superman movie.
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Bad:the scene of the thug playing the piano, the Gene Hackman impersonation, the lazy plot and the scene of Lois Lane discovering Luthor's wigs.

Good: some of the effects (not all of them).

I found this one a terrible movie and one of the few recent superhero movies that made me want to leave the theater in the middle of the whole thing.:yuk:
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Hated this movie.

Singer did a great job turning Superman into a creepy stalker.
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A bad movie with wooden acting and a thinly veiled messiah plotline. This was a real letdown.

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This movie was horrid. I don't understand why it is so hard to make a good Superman film.
3. Board Game: The Amazing Spider-Man Game [Average Rating:4.00 Unranked]
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Spiderman (2002)

Sequels:
Spiderman 2 (2004)
Spiderman 3 (2007)
Spiderman 4 (2011)

Hero:
Tobey Maguire as Spiderman

Villains:
Willem Dafoe as The Green Goblin
Alfred Molina as Doctor Octopus (Doc Ock)

A real first class recreation of the comic book series. Tobey Maguire was spot on for the role of Peter Parker and Willem Dafoe was just fantastic as The Green Goblin. Both sequels have lived up to the original film as well. The first film actually held the record for best domestic opening weekend for a film until it was dethroned this past weekend by Batman.

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Not to mention Venom and the Sandman as villains!
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The problem with SM3 is that Raimi is a classic Spidey villains fan...Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman. Marvel asked Raimi to include Venom, who is popular in the comics. Thus, Venom is shoehorned in by a director that doesn't even like the character.
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If they had taken the musical numbers and venom out of spiderman 3 it would have been a decent movie. Part 4 is rumored to have a new person in the roll of spiderman, the casting going around is a much much younger spiderman. Talking teenage spiderman. Which would mean a reboot of the series.
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If they had taken the musical numbers and venom out of spiderman 3 it would have been a decent movie. Part 4 is rumored to have a new person in the roll of spiderman, the casting going around is a much much younger spiderman. Talking teenage spiderman. Which would mean a reboot of the series.


Which will mean it will probably suck (but probably not as bad as the 3rd movie).
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Spiderman 2 was a thing of beauty. Spiderman 3 made my head hurt. Spiderman 3 was so bad it could have been Superman 3 or 4 and it would have sucked about the same. the first two seemed to have a lot of passion behind the films while the third just seemed to be a lets see how many bad guys we can slam into one film kind of movie.
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4. Board Game: Incredible Hulk Smash-Up Action Game [Average Rating:4.50 Unranked]
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The Hulk (2003)

Sequels:
The Incredible Hulk (2008)

Heros:
Eric Bana as Bruce Banner (2003)
Edward Norton as Bruce Banner (2008)

Main Villains:
Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky

The first Hulk film in 2003 was considered a great disappointment by many fans and in the end it did rather lackluster at the box office. Undaunted the studio folks went back to the drawing board and hired Zak Penn who wrote the screenplays for two of the X-Men films and the first Fantastic Four movie to pen a new Hulk script. The result was a much better received and financially successful Hulk film. Penn is also slated to write the scripts for the upcoming Avengers film as well as Captain America.

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2008 Hulk is not a sequel but a re-do, right? I didn't see the new one yet.
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I've always thought that the Ang Lee (2003 w/ Eric Bana) version was hugely underrated, which is not really surprising considering that it was marketed in a way completely at odds with the directors vision.

I recommend anyone who hasn't seen this and can deal with movies without non stop action to check this out.

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I've always thought that the Ang Lee (2003 w/ Eric Bana) version was hugely underrated, which is not really surprising considering that it was marketed in a way completely at odds with the directors vision.

I recommend anyone who hasn't seen this and can deal with movies without non stop action to check this out.



I don't think that the problem with the film is lack of action. I could live with a more cerebral, angst filled movie, but the 2003 Hulk is not that either. The plot is basic comic book fare with bad pacing and technical problems. Some of the Ang Lee's ideas are interesting, but they are totally out of place in that kind of script.

For a more serious tone, Hulk would have to struggle with dilemmas more close related to the real life and not gamma irradiated dogs!!

But the thing is watchable. I think it is much better than Superman Returns.
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I love Ang Lee's Hulk. I think it is quite faithful to the comic book character, as far as I can estimate. Many comic books have deliberate pacing, and not non-stop action. Many of the most-loved comic book characters are interesting because of their private lives and the conflicts that cross-over to their secret lives, which takes character development and plotting.

Anyway, I think the 2003 Hulk is faithful to that.
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I was so bored with the first film. I won't say that its not faithful to some aspects of the character, but not hte major aspects. The new movie has great action and a good story. It's a more balanced work and fits quite nicely for the third best comic book movie of the summer
5. Board Game: DC HeroClix: Batman (Alpha) [Average Rating:6.93 Unranked]
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Batman (1989)

Sequels:
Batman Returns (1992)
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)

Hero:
Michael Keaton as Batman (1989/1992)
Val Kilmer as Batman (1995)
George Clooney as Batman (1997)
Chris O'Donnell as Robin
Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl

Villains:
Jack Nicholson as Joker
Danny Devito as Penguin
Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman
Jim Carrey as The Riddler
Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy
Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr Freeze

The first Batman series separate from the current one starring Christian Bale (or at least imho is). The series started off great with Michael Keaton turning in a fantastic performance as Batman (still the best I think). Jack Nicholson's Joker was one of the best performances of his long and impressive career. The second film was good even with Danny Devito's rather over the top portrayal of the Penguin. After that it went down hill with the final film featuring Arnold Schwarzenegger in perhaps the worst performance in any superhero film (I know Arnold fans are going to roast me for saying that).

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As cool as Nicholson was, I still wish to this day that the main focus had been on Batman/Bruce Wayne. Too bad that The Joker had to be given most of the screen time to justify Jack's paycheck.
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Give me Batman: The Animated Series and its movie-length extended episodes (esp Batman and Mr. Freeze: Subzero) over any of the live-action movies any day -- including the recent ones!
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I think the visual style and Jack Nicholson surprised everyone in the first movie. Michael Keaton was a poor choice for Bruce Wayne, but we learned to ignore him with so much going on.

The sequels kind of repeated themselves with poorer scripts. However, the villains sometimes provided casual fun. My favorite is Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman.
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With Batman Begins they finally found an actor in Christian Bale who could pull off Bruce Wayne. Anyone can look cool in a batsuit (Keaton, Clooney) but it was Bruce Wayne the playboy billionaire that they never got right. Until now.

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The problem with Jack Nicholson is that he is Jack Nicholson in every movie, Batman included. From a movie point of view i found him entertaining but that franchise started off on the wrong foot, having a batman that acted very much not like batman would (batman killing the joker is what the joker in the comics wants).
6. Board Game: UNO - Batman Begins [Average Rating:4.00 Unranked]
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Batman Begins (2005)

Sequels:
The Dark Knight (2008)

Hero:
Christian Bale as Batman

Villains:
Liam Neeson as Henri Ducard
Heath Ledger as The Joker

Opening last weekend the second film in this series set the record for the top domestic opening weekend beating out the previous record holder Spiderman I. Liam Neeson was a good villain in the first film but Heath Ledger's performance as Joker in the sequel is legendary. I think Christopher Nolan makes a good Batman but I'm still a fan of Michael Keaton in the role. Will be interesting to see what the future holds for this series and whoever is cast as the next villain will have huge shoes to fill.
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Christian Bale as Batman, you mean. ;)
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After Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (seriously, what the fuck?), I lost faith in the Batman franchise all together. Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale reaffirmed my faith, but it wasn't the two of them alone that made the difference. If not for Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, this movie never would have had the brilliant story that carried the movie.
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After Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (seriously, what the fuck?), I lost faith in the Batman franchise all together. Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale reaffirmed my faith, but it wasn't the two of them alone that made the difference. If not for Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, this movie never would have had the brilliant story that carried the movie.


But I think that's the secret of the success. Spider Man and the X-men also take a lot from the comics - that's the whole point of making a comic-inspired movie. Sin City is, in my opinion, one of the best comics to movie adaptations and it is almost literal - the dialogs are straight from the pages.

The sequel also borrows heavily from the Batman Comics. I found the dialogs between the Batman and the Joker very reminiscent of Alan Moore's The Killing Joke.

Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman also help a lot. And Ledger is brilliant as the new Joker (much better than Nicholson).

Christian Bale is also very good, but I sometimes found very funny that voice he does as Batman.

I would be scared if I bumped into Bale in a dark alley. Michael Keaton would only scare me if he appeared dressed as Bettlejuice:D
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After Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (seriously, what the fuck?), I lost faith in the Batman franchise all together. Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale reaffirmed my faith, but it wasn't the two of them alone that made the difference. If not for Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, this movie never would have had the brilliant story that carried the movie.


But I think that's the secret of the success. Spider Man and the X-men also take a lot from the comics - that's the whole point of making a comic-inspired movie. Sin City is, in my opinion, one of the best comics to movie adaptations and it is almost literal - the dialogs are straight from the pages.

The sequel also borrows heavily from the Batman Comics. I found the dialogs between the Batman and the Joker very reminiscent of Alan Moore's The Killing Joke.

Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman also help a lot. And Ledger is brilliant as the new Joker (much better than Nicholson).

Christian Bale is also very good, but I sometimes found very funny that voice he does as Batman.

I would be scared if I bumped into Bale in a dark alley. Michael Keaton would only scare me if he appeared dressed as Bettlejuice:D
I was eerily reminded of the killing joke, so much that certain lines just creeped me out.
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Finally saw it last night, and while being an excellent movie, Iron Man was still better. What made the movie for me was the amazing performance of Heath Ledger. What blew me away about his performance was that, in spite of playing a psychotic homicidal maniac, he underplayed his performance. Not that it'll make a difference at Oscar time.

Oh and William Fichtner was cool, too.
7. Board Game: Fantastic Four vs. Dr. Doom Game [Average Rating:4.19 Unranked]
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The Fantastic Four (2005)

Sequels:
4: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)

Hero:
Ioan Gruffudd as Mr Fantastic
Jessica Alba as Invisible Girl
Chris Evans as Human Torch
Michael Chiklis as The Thing

Villains:
Julian McMahon as Doctor Doom
Laurence Fishburne as voice of The Silver Surfer

While not the knock out hits of Spiderman and alike the films aren't bad and Julian McMahon does a nice job as Doctor Doom. Still the films are a touch on the campy side and not a ton of depth to the stories.

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Okay, I get the campy feel of these movies but McMahon was absolutely god awful as Doom. I can't think of a worse possible role for him in this movie.
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I caught about ten minutes of this on cable the other night. The cheese and camp was so extreme that I could hardly bear it for even that short amount of time. I can't imagine sitting through two hours of that dreck. Was the sequel any better?
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Jessica Alba. Normally, I could stare at her for hours without complaint.


I agree that if you look up the term "drop-dead gorgeous" in a dictionary there will probably a photo of hers... ;)


Have you seen her in Sin City? :p
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4: Rise of the Silver Surfer was ruined for me by the ridiculous co-incidences and the geographical shrinking of the world.

For example: the massive holes in the Earth are supposed to be appearing according to some pre-set geometric pattern. So one just happens to appear in the River Thames in the centre of London. What's the chance of that happening? Instead of it appearing in some suburb like Orpington? Or even half-in and half-out of the Thames.

In one shot they're at the Great Wall in rural China. In the next they're in a major oriental city. So they flew 1000 miles in 15 seconds?? Yeah, right.


More like the makers of this film made a list of all the well-known locations in the world and then strung them together with some poor editing.

Yet another example of childish film-making from Hollywood.
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Jessica Alba. Normally, I could stare at her for hours without complaint.


I agree that if you look up the term "drop-dead gorgeous" in a dictionary there will probably a photo of hers... ;)


Have you seen her in Sin City? :p
Jessica's just horribly micast for this movie and she does "action" acting about as good as a wooden spoon. I know my audience werent the only ones who laughed everytime she attempted to use her power. Looks like she's passing kidney stones.
8. Board Game: X-Men Alert [Average Rating:6.18 Overall Rank:2635]
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X-Men (2000)

Sequels:
X2 (2003)
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (movie prequel 2009)
X-Men Origins: Magneto (prequel concentrating on the early lives of Charles Xavier and Magneto 2010)

Heros:
Hugh Jackman as Wolverine
Patrick Stewart as Professor Charles Xavier
Famke Janssen as Jean Grey aka The Phoenix
James Marsden as Cyclops
Halle Berry as Storm
Anna Paquin as Rogue

Villain:
Ian McKellen as Magneto
Rebecca Romijn as Mystique

Different than most other superhero movies with there being so many different people running around with superhero powers. Hugh Jackman does a great job in what is basically a starring role even with the huge cast. The third film didn't quite live up to the first two but it was hardly a bad film.

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Good, but not great films. Its hard to feel too connected to any of the characters in these films. That said, Patrick Stewart and Ian McClellan was probably the most inspired bit of casting that we've had in superhero films (until Heath Ledger as the joker?).
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Good, but not great films. Its hard to feel too connected to any of the characters in these films. That said, Patrick Stewart and Ian McClellan was probably the most inspired bit of casting that we've had in superhero films (until Heath Ledger as the joker?).



Agreed... it almost seems as if the writers came up with those roles as the anchors, with those actors specifically in mind, and then developed everything else around that.
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My favorite thing about these movies was tying the bits and pieces of the characters and their origins back to the comic books I remembered from junior high school. But the stories seemed overly complicated and hard to follow (though, yes, I will admit that's partially because I accidentally watched the movies out of order; I-III-II is not a very logical progression). McKellan did a great job of capturing the "Bad guy or good guy?" character complexity of Magneto, but crimony, he's an Oscar-winning actor; if he HADN'T I would have been surprised.

EDIT: Also, Kelsey Grammar as The Beast was better on paper than in actuality.
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Good, but not great films. Its hard to feel too connected to any of the characters in these films. That said, Patrick Stewart and Ian McClellan was probably the most inspired bit of casting that we've had in superhero films (until Heath Ledger as the joker?).


Ian McCellan's Magneto is the best comic book movie villain I've ever seen. Never have I felt so inspired to join the bad guys side then when Magneto talks to Pyro in X2.

"What's your real name?"

"Uh, Pyro"

"Your a god amongst ants... never forget that."

Man if I was an X-man it would be so hard not to follow this guy. Charisma just oozing out of him in every way.

And I still think that X2 is the standard for comic book movies (not remakes like Sin City where they just storyboard the comic... actually NEW stories from comic characters).

Magneto - Perfect
Professor X - Perfect
Wolverine - perfect
Mystique - perfect

Hell even cyclops they nailed. The only shitty character was Storm, Halle Berry (sp?) cannot play a comic book hero.

The opening scene with Nightcrawler and Magneto's prison escape... Amazing scenes easily as good as the "Pencil Trick" everyone's raving about now.

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When I saw the last film in the theater, I was literally screaming and yelling at the screen because it was so bad.

Whoever was responsible for this trash should hang their head in shame.



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This and spiderman should have stopped at 2. A horrible sequal that was horrible because the actors, primarily halle berry, got big heads. (btw halle berry acts much like jessica alba)
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Ironman (2008)

Sequels:
Ironman 2 (2010)
The Avengers (2011)

Hero:
Robery Downey Jr as Ironman
Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury

Villain:
Jeff Bridges as Iron Monger

The hit of the 2008 summer movie season...at least it was until Dark Knight came along. Robert Downey Jr puts in perhaps the best performance as the main superhero since Christopher Reeves as Superman years ago. The film will have a sequel of course but also a third film involving The Avengers with Samuel L. Jackson (if you didn't stay through the credits of Ironman you missed Samuel L. Jackson's scene) as Nick Fury.



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Could the two best Superhero films of all time come out in the same year? It certainly seems like it. Downey, as many have commented, made the movie.


X2
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He'd have to be played by Andy Dick.
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Iron Man will always top The Dark Knight for me purely for its ability to tell a story coherently and compellingly throughout its entirety.
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This movie was amazing. I have no geeky fanboy complaints about this film. I sat down in the theater and the smile started and did not stop for the rest of the film...... both times........several times on video..... It was just that good.
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Daredevil (2003)

Sequel:
Elektra (2005)

Hero:
Ben Affleck as Daredevil
Jennifer Garner as Elektra Natchios

Villain:
Michael Duncan as The Kingpin
Colin Farrell as Bullseye

Ok, not as bad as a lot of people say but not a good film either. They did manage to squeeze a sequel out of it for Jennifer Gardener that made about $1.99 at the box office.
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I am not sure what's so bad about this film. And yet, its bad.
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The two villains are done quite well. I love Michael Clarke Duncan's Kingpin, and Farrel's Bullseye was much better then I expected. this movie fails in a couple of ways for me.

1/ Daredevil beats Kingpin in fisticuffs... this should never happen.
2/ Ben Affleck was a very bad casting choice, maybe Garner could have pulled it off, but it would take some work (I always pictured her as having an accent, vaguely European kind of Cosmopolitan accent like many travelers have).
3/ Elektra never gets to be evil and work for the kingpin, a huge injustice to the story.
4/ Ben Affleck was a bad casting choice. Did I mention this one already?
5/ The fetish costume (although I may hate Batman's costume even more!... in the new movie I mean)
6/ That awfull, awfull scene where Daredevil sees Elektra in the rain.

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2/ Ben Affleck was a very bad casting choice, maybe Garner could have pulled it off, but it would take some work (I always pictured her as having an accent, vaguely European kind of Cosmopolitan accent like many travelers have).
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4/ Ben Affleck was a bad casting choice. Did I mention this one already?


I think Weird Al put it best:

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Verkisto wrote:
JonJacob wrote:
2/ Ben Affleck was a very bad casting choice, maybe Garner could have pulled it off, but it would take some work (I always pictured her as having an accent, vaguely European kind of Cosmopolitan accent like many travelers have).
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4/ Ben Affleck was a bad casting choice. Did I mention this one already?


I think Weird Al put it best:

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Aw, do I even need a reason?


On the other hand, I thought he was robbed of an Oscar nomination for Hollywoodland. He was easily the best part of that movie. And if he can't make it as an actor, he can fall back on his directing chops. Gone Daddy Gone was one of the best pictures of the year. But that's me. ;)
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I also thought he was great in Hollywoodland. What a shame he has such a string of dreck preceding it, of which Daredevil is a prime sample.
11. Board Game: Cat Attack [Average Rating:5.70 Overall Rank:4050]
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Catwoman (2004)

Hero:
Halle Berry as Catwoman

Villain:
Lambert Wilson as George Hedare
Sharon Stone as Laurel Hedare

When Halle Berry was named Hasty Puddings's Woman of the year in 2006 they made her write on a blackboard 10 times "I will not make Catwoman 2...I will not make Catwoman 2". She won a Razzie Award for her performance and actually showed up to accept the award!
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Watch it on mute and its not so bad.
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I caught the last twenty minutes of this one on cable a few months back. If there were a way to use steel wool in my brain to scour out that memory, I WOULD DO IT.
12. Board Game: Capital Punishment [Average Rating:4.85 Unranked]
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The Punisher (2004)

Hero:
Thomas Jane as The Punisher

Villain:
John Travolta as Howard Saint

Haven't seen this one or read the comic book for that matter so I'll leave it for someone else to fill us in on this box office flop.
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Poor Dolph Lundgren gets no love... :(

The Punisher (1989)

Not a bad movie, but very much a product of its time and a vehicle for its laconic Scandinavian star.
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I thought this movie was awesome. Up until Iron Man, it was probably my favorite. I'm bummed Thomas Jane won't be returning as Punisher for War Zone.
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It was a GOOD movie. It was well written, and well acted. It isn't getting the love here that it deserves.

Of course, I was a Thomas Jane fan since The Deep Blue Sea.
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I do like Thomas Jane. However, Ray Stevenson was brilliant as Titus Pullo in Rome! I'm really looking forward to seeing him in this role.
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Hal wrote:
It was a GOOD movie. It was well written, and well acted. It isn't getting the love here that it deserves.

Of course, I was a Thomas Jane fan since The Deep Blue Sea.


My favorite Thomas Jane role is Mickey Mantle in 61*. He was pretty good in The Mist, too.
13. Board Game: Ghost Stories [Average Rating:7.37 Overall Rank:146]
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Ghost Rider (2007)

Hero:
Nicolas Cage as Ghost Rider

Villains:
Wes Bentley as Blackheart

Ok, not a great film but worth watching if for no other reason than Nicolas Cage.
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Nick Cage being in a movie is not reason enough to see it. He does way too much complete crap to justify that.
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To my great shame, I really liked this movie. Cage was awful. The Ghost Rider skell effect was pretty bad. But a hellhorse-ridin' Sam Elliot made up for all that.



Sam Elliot makes any movie better. He was sorely missed as "Thunderbolt" Ross in the Norton Hulk reboot, the only bit of casting I felt was a serious downgrade.
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The whole long lost love intrest part of the story was ultra cheesy.
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I enjoyed this one, and had almost no trouble sitting through it without losing the grin I walked into the theater wearing, as I anticipated how much it would stink. Much better than I'd dreamed it would be.