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Eddie B
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In a lot of historical (war)games you see that certain nations will (almost) always be represented by the same colors. Here are the ones I know, but please feel free to add. A little historical information or a good guess would be appreciated.
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Posted Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:38 pm
1. Board Game: Prussia's Defiant Stand [Average Rating:7.23 Overall Rank:1834]
Eddie B
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Russia (not Prussia) is green.

I have no idea why Russia is green.

Could this be a reason ???:

In historical atlases published in Germany, light blue is traditionally used as a color to represent Germany, as opposed to pink for England, purple for France, and light green for Russia.

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I think that Russian Line infantry during the Seven Years War typically wore green jackets. That is probably the reason.

BTW, I think they often took the jackets off to fight, exposing red vests.
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This is the case in the Napoleonic period as well, where Russia is often assigned the colour green (cf. The Napoleonic Wars, etc.)
2. Board Game: Struggle of Empires [Average Rating:7.73 Overall Rank:48]
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The United Provinces, or Holland, or The Netherlands are represented by orange.

Orange is the color of the Dutch Royal Family. The lineage of the current dynasty -- the House of Oranje-Nassau -- dates back to Willem van Oranje (William of Orange). But while the color orange has royal roots in the Netherlands, today it symbolizes a broader pride in the country and in being Dutch.

Occasionally you will see a Dutch flag (red, white and blue) with an orange banner on the top. The original Dutch flag (AKA Prince's flag) was orange, white and blue (and the basis for the old South African flag and the flag of New York City) but apparently they changed the orange to red. One of the reasons might be that it was hard to see orange on the ocean and the Dutch being a seafaring nation changed it to red.
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As a (50%) Dutch person, the reason is actually a bit less clear than that: back in the day, orange dyes were much redder than the orange used today on, say, the NYC flag, and moreover faded to look a lot like a red too, so there was always a bit of confusion about the flag. (Insert bit about the sea here, if you like.)

Then, during the Napoleonic period the Batavian Republic, and later the kingdom as ruled by Louis Bonaparte very deliberately chose red as the colour of that stripe to avoid annoying the French. When the house of Oranje was restored, the orange stripes came back, and until 1937 were co-equal with red ones, when the Queen stepped in and specified colours for the flag to head off the fascists.
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As a 100% Dutchie, I did not know all that. Thanks for the info!
3. Board Game: Friedrich [Average Rating:7.74 Overall Rank:77]
Eddie B
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Austria is white.

I can't really find a reason. I know their flag is red-white-red. Does anybody know why the Austrian Empire is usually represented by white?
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I know that the colour of their uniform was white but I'm not sure if this is a chick before the egg thing.
Wendell A
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Dunno, but they are white in Empires in Arms and (as Austria-Hungary) The Great War In Europe: Deluxe Edition too, to name just a couple...
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Just as the British were nicknamed "the Redcoats" in believe the Austrians were nicknamed "the Whitecoats" because of the uniforms.
richard sivel
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In games covering the 18th century or the napoleonics, Austria is usually white because of their uniforms, indeed.

Similarly, the napoleonic French (but not the French before Napoleon!!) are blue, the Prussians are blue, the british are red, and the Russians are green ...
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In Diplomacy they are Austria-Hungary but they are red and Russia is white.
4. Board Game: Imperial [Average Rating:7.84 Overall Rank:26]
Eddie B
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Normally it seems that Prussia, and later Germany, are represented by black.

I don't know the exact reason but my guess is:

The schwarz-weiß-rot (black-white-red) German imperial flag was adopted by the North German Confederation in 1867, as a combination of the black-white of Prussia and the red-white of the Hanseatic League and/or of Brandenburg. In 1871 it was adopted as merchant flag for the German Empire, and in 1892 promoted to national flag.

And the Iron cross being black:

The Iron Cross was a Prussian order first established by King Frederick William III on 10th March 1813 for military valour or patriotic service in the 1813-15 war against Napoleon. It was revived in 1871 for the Franco-Prussian war and in 1914 for the First World War. It was also revived as a German order in 1939 by Hitler. Except for the formal meaning, there is no official significance, although it may have been inspired to some degree by the cross of the Teutonic Knights which is superficially similar.
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Or Grey, probably because that was the color of German uniforms.
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It's probably too much of a stretch to link this to the Brunswickers rather snazzy black uniforms in the Napoleonic wars isn't it?
5. Board Game: War of 1812 [Average Rating:7.06 Overall Rank:627]
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England plays with red.

Because the English Flag is Based on the Genoan Flag

* The original St. George's flag, a red cross on a white field , was adopted by the Republic of Genoa in 1099, after the first crusade.
* Then, it was adopted by England and the City of London, in 1190, for use on their ships entering the Mediterranean Sea to benefit from the protection of the Geonoese fleet.
* The English Monarch paid an annual tribute to the Doge of Genoa for this privilege.
* Since then, that flag remains as both Genoa's & England's flag.


Because the Patron Saint of England is St George

The Flag of England White with a Red Cross on it, because the Patron Saint of England is St George

England is represented by the flag of St. George

* England is represented by the flag of St. George. England's flag has a white background with a red cross through it. (To me, it looks it the Red Cross symbol.)
* The flag consists of 3 heraldic crosses. It was Richard I (Richard The Lion Heart) of England who introduced the Cross of St. George, in 1194 A.D.
* The reason why it is white with a red cross through it is because that was St. George's emblem.
* The King's soldiers wore it on their tunics during war so that they didn't kill, or be killed by, their own men.
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Surely it's Britain plays with red? And I imagine we play with red due to the army wearing red since the 17th century.

Now no one knows exactly why red but it's thought that red dye was cheaper, romantic I know.

Edit: We also have a claim to British Racing Green
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Yup, Britain are red because of the jackets worn when at war.

The official colour of British cars is British Racing Green.
France is blue.
Italy is red.
Japan is white.
Germany is silver.

Is wasn't always that way but that's how it is now.
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Not a 100% hard-and-fast rule of course, particulary it would seem as you move into the 20th century. In World in Flames the British Empire (Commonwealth) are dark blue, which makes reading the names (black text on dark blue) of their naval units a pure joy. And in Rise and Decline of the Third Reich, Britain was tan. As they are in The Great War In Europe: Deluxe Edition and Guns of August too, come to think of it.
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England's uniforms have been Red and Blue, variations by unit, since the mid 1700's. Red with blue cuffs for line units, Blue with Red for certain elite units.

In the mid to late 1800's, colonial wear Khaki (tan) uniforms were in use.

In WW I & II, both green and tan uniforms were common field uniform colors by location.
6. Board Game: Bonaparte at Marengo [Average Rating:7.60 Overall Rank:165]
Eddie B
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The French player plays with blue.

It probably has to do with the fact that the Île-de-France coat of arms is blue with yellow fleur-de-lis.

Île-de-France is one of the ancient provinces of France, and the one that has been the centre of power during most of French history. It is centred on Paris. Today, the territory of the province of Île-de-France is divided between the Île-de-France région and the Picardie région.

The name first appears in 1387, replacing the older "Pays de France" when the word pays began to refer to a nation, rather than to a region or area. The name "Île-de-France" (literally "Island of France") comes from the rivers Seine, Marne, Oise, and Beuvronne by which the area is surrounded like an island.
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I may be wrong, but the french royalty, beginning at least with the capetian dinasty, choose an azure (light blue?) coat of arms.

According to some historians (the great Le Goff to name one) the color was possibly chosen due to its association with the Marian cult (Mary, Mother of Jesus, Madonna) thanks to the strict pact forged between french kings (the "most christians") and the papacy.

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It's also their traditional international racing color, although this may be a coincidence, since none of the other colors above match the racing colors.
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White would also work while under the French crown in the early modern period and after the restoration. White being the color of the royal family along with the fleur-de-lis atop, although I'm unsure why it seemed to exist side by side with the blue.

From what I understand, the modern colors of the French flag are the combination of the white of the Bourbons with the red and blue flag of Paris. Funny how the flag came to take on anti-monarchical meanings and is always associated with the republic.

If anyone tries to make a "French surrender" joke, you're not funny. It's a stupid and tired joke.
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This rule of thumb seems to hold up pretty well. As does the black or gray for Germany/Prussia.
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Heraldric "Azure" is a dark blue.

Light blue is "Skye"...

The standard anglo-french heraldric colors:
Sable
Gules
Vert
Azure

And metals (on sable for clarity):
Ar/Argent/Ar/Argent
Or


And tinctures (odd colors):
Skye
Mulberry/Mur
Sang/Sanguine
Tenne


Furs combine two of the above, usually a metal and a color, rarely a metal and a tincture.
In certain eastern european heraldry, sky is a third metal.

Silver, light Grey, and white are all used for Argent.
Gold and Yellow are both used for Or.
Tenne is rarely used, but can be shown in reddish-brass, orange, or even tan... it was not consistent in exact tone...
Sanguine is usually dark red, but is sometimes red-brown. (dried blood color...)
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For games set during the Napoleonic era, at least, most of the time national colors seem to be based on the predominant color of their infantry uniforms.

Britain/England = Red
France = Blue
Spain = Yellow
Russia = Green
Prussia = Black or Grey
Austria = Grey or White
etc.
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