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Geekbuddy Question #2
Mike Jones
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This one comes from Steve:

Pick one game that someone else on this list rates a 10 that you would refuse to play if asked.

Let's do one (or more) and have some fun with it. Obviously our tastes do differ, but we all do know that many games do boil down to taste.
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Posted On: 2008-07-25 12:03:36
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1. Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition [Average Rating:7.89 Overall Rank:29]
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So, Henry has this rated as a 10. I have it somewhere around a 4.

I don't particularly like it, because it's one of those games that becomes a 'rules lawyering game'. While they have a HUGE FAQ, many questions still are open to interpretation and of course that means arguing about them. While I don't play it nearly as much as others, when it first game out I'd actually research rulings/discussions. Yet, if it came up I would always get ruled against because "I wasn't the 'expert'".

I dislike like that there was a 'vocal' minority in 2nd edition that 'hated' 'turtling', so they completely wrote out the ability to set up a defensive perimeter without a 'special' card. Even before you still had to be somewhat aggressive to score points. But, at least you could protect yourself when you weren't having the best of games. Now you can't 'protect' yourself. So, if you aren't getting the resources or the cards you need or all the laws are being passed to hurt you. You can't just try and build. You are completely exposed to others that are having a better beginning game then you. So, you will come in and beat you up without fear of counter attack. Of course, leaving you week enough to not being able to do much (and therefor not have much fun). But they won't take you out so you can get out of the game. I'm getting to hate games that have more then 10 pages of rules and more then 10 pages of FAQ.

Which then leads to the other biggest problem. I don't mind a long game. I'll play Die Macher for 5 hours. But, it is rare. BUT, I don't want to play a game that takes 6-8 hours. Blah! Someone said I'd like this game at 4 players because it's a more manageable game. So, I'd be willing to try it, but I tried to set one up once, and everyone else always wants to play with 6 (or more) players, so others 'got invited' and I decided to sit out. I wasn't to sure I'd like it at 4 anyway and I got my first game of Hannibal in, so it had a silver lining. Anyway, I'd rather play 6 different games in the time it takes to play this one game.

The sad thing is I have friends that use to game with me that never game with me any more because I don't play this one. I've got 800ish games now, but they think that we should only play TI3.

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Posted On: 2008-07-25 12:03:26
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Though I doubt I ever will play this game, I certainly wouldn't refuse if it was offered.
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Charles Smith
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Blott wrote:
Though I doubt I ever will play this game, I certainly wouldn't refuse if it was offered.


I agree. Actually I think we have a group here that plays it quite often and I have turned down a couple of chance, but really that was more a case of the length. I agree that it is hard to play a single game when you have a chance to play several other instead.

That one game has to be awfully good to make that choice... Like Paths of Glory.
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Blott wrote:
Though I doubt I ever will play this game, I certainly wouldn't refuse if it was offered.


Yes, with some (a lot) of questions and things around here, I believe it is 'acceptable' to take a little bit of literary license to answer a question (or to rate a game, etc.). Even in my description, I mentioned that I may try it again under certain circumstances. But, it's about the general under laying feeling of a game.

It's like people that refuse to rate a game a 10's because it says 'you will never turn a game of it down' and then go on to say, 'If I'm in the middle of a game and someone asks to play it, then I feel I have to turn down a game' OR 'if that guy I can't stand to play games with asks me to play it I'm going to turn down a game' therefore I can't rate it a 10.

You still have general feelings even if there are exceptions to the rule.

Generally speaking I don't think I'd ever 'turn' down a game. Although, this game gets the closest.
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I'd refuse (and probably have refused) the offer to play this one. No desire whatsoever.
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2. Charades [Average Rating:4.66 Overall Rank:4585]
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Wow, a game I would flat-out refuse to play? I don't know if that exists. But out of the games that others have rated a 10 I had a few choices of games that I would prefer not to play. I considered some of the heavier wargames, as they don't interest me very much. But really there was only one game that I would avoid and even suggest something else as an alternative before agreeing to play...Randy Cox gives a 10 to Charades.

Now I grew up in a household where a game of charades with my parent's friends wasn't unheard of, in fact I learned the basic charade rules (and traditional clue-giving) from my Mom & Dad. These were good times. I was always one of those kids who wanted to hang out with the adults and be like them, so any chance they gave me to join in their games was a real treat. These game nights became less and less frequent as I got older, though.

After moving out of the house, I never played charades again until it popped up as just a part of the game Cranium. When I tried playing that with my wife, she had difficulty following my clues because she didn't grow up playing charades and didn't know all the conventional clue-giving techniques. I realized just how frustrating a full game of charades would be with her family because they didn't know what pulling your ear meant or what tapping 2 fingers on your forearm meant.

I never felt compelled to teach all the traditional clues of charades to Rikki because there are so many other games in our collection that use just a taste of charades, but have great mechanics to offer. If I want that charades feel I'll usually suggest Time's Up, Guesstures, or Charoodles, where the charading is more rapidfire and the feeling remains light.
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Posted On: 2008-07-25 12:55:37
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I was looking through the other 10's so that I could add another item. I too saw a few that I don't particularly like and would avoid, but no additional one's I'd refuse.

This one stuck out as one of those games that I'd avoid, but having a family I can't say that I'd refuse it with them (and have played it with them).
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I really like charades. I like playing with people who are willing to try and act out the most ridiculous clues possible.
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Tsk, tsk, tsk. Party poopers. :)

Though I played a little charades as a kid, it was never a game. Just a cooperative diversion like you'd see on The Dick Van Dyke Show. There were no teams and such.

But as an adult, a friend and her family taught me the real game of charades and then we taught many, many others. Note: it never took more than two minutes to teach all the possible hand signals (sounds like, words, syllables, short word, song, book, TV show, movie, play, name, and "whole thing's about" pretty much covers it).

We were taught that no one gets more than two minutes (after that, they give up and the team's score that round is zero). And I only recall once or twice that the full 2:00 elapsed. It's such a quick game and everyone on the team is involved (one could even argue that guessing is more fun than giving).

The only people I hear say they don't want to play are introverts who say, "I'll just guess." But every one of those has eventually stood up to join in on the clue giving.

Y'all must hang out with a bunch of dolts. :)
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Randy Cox wrote:

Y'all must hang out with a bunch of dolts. :)


Hang out? We are!
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3. Colosseum [Average Rating:7.28 Overall Rank:152]
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This was a tough call. Besides Colosseum, I noticed Blott has Say Anything rated a 10. In my first play of that, I hated it, but I would gladly play that over Colosseum.

There's a lot of reasons why I think this one failed:
1) I was so hyped to get it that when I finally did, it was almost impossible for it to live up to my expectations.

2) With the exception of El Grande, I haven't really liked any Kramer game I played.

3) There didn't seem to be anything going on. I just didn't like the way it fit together at all. I'm having a hard time putting this into words, but something about the auctions, performance, and all the little add ons, it seemed so completely inelegant. When you add in the track for the nobles it was just too much. I feel like this game lacked focus which made it just not work for me.

This game has left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't think I've ever been quite so disappointed with a game.

Whew, I feel a lot better now!
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Posted On: 2008-07-25 14:07:56
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The first play of this I hated the game, but we found a rule we had played wrong. So, I recently played it again. I don't understand the draw of this game. I guess if it played in an hour, but it's just to long and doesn't hold that much interest. I'd play it a few more times, but I think after a couple more plays, I'd begin refusing to play this one too.
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I actually like this one more than Cleopatra which seems to be favored in our group at least. I don't know why. It feels like a lot going on, but in the end it isn't very brain intensive and sometimes I like that.

I think the reason I put the two together is that you are always trying to collect the right groups to make a killing (other than it is Days of Wonder of course).

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