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Extra large group today requiring 5 tables. I guess people didn't want to miss their final chance to game before GenCon.

I do have a request for all the people who preordered Agricola and are receiving it this week. Please do not burn out on playing the game by over playing it during GenCon. I would like to play the English copy sometime. :p

What did we play this week?
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1. Board Game: Yspahan [Average Rating:7.33 Overall Rank:113]
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Todd 104
Max 78
Jeff C 68

I was a mean mean person this game. I focused on getting as many buildings as possible during week 1 and then filled up the entire caravan by myself. This was the first game I used Shea's trick of moving the supervisor 0 spaces to move 2 guys to the caravan multiple times.

Max did a good job filling up the color groups on the board to get lots of points, but he never had a chance to build most of the buildings. I kept taking the camels from him.
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Yea, dumping 2 cubes per turn can just be brutal.

Yspahan is a fun game, but I think I almost burned out on it by playing the pc version too much.

Even though it can be fun to do something screwy like always buy 3 dice in a game to see what happens.
2. Board Game: Stone Age [Average Rating:7.76 Overall Rank:30]
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Game 1 Game 2
Brian 205 Ross 193
Brent 193 Shea 166
Kevin 86 Todd 175
Morgan 73

No clue what happened in game 1. In game 2, we twisted Shea's arm to play with us. I have a feeling it might take actual torture to get him to play again. Shea focused on getting lots of people and green backed civ cards. He went with a psuedo starvation strategy feeding his guys VPs 3-4 turns. The other turns he got most of his food through cards I believe. He ended the game with all 8 symbols and a 2nd set of 3-4 symbols.

Ross went heavy with the tools maxing out at 12. He managed to get 7 of the tool builders for big points. I was actively trying to take tool builders from him but only managed to grab 1. The rest I was hoping to wait a turn for them to get cheaper since I was unwilling to pay 3 resources for them. Ross had no problem paying 3-4 resources for such cards.

I mostly went food production, getting 4 farmers * 7 farms, and hut builder, 5 builders * 6 huts. I think I goofed near the end of the game spending most all of my resources on a 1-7 tile thinking there was only 1 turn left in the game. Turns out there were 2 tiles under the 1-7 tile, not 1. I was really hurting for resources to do much of anything on those last 2 turns. Didn't help that I rolled 4 1s using 4 people on one of those turns. (OH NO!)

One of these days I'll beat Ross at this game. Until then, I'll just blame my losses on always being the start player. :p
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Oh I'll still play it. I'll just suggest other things first :)

And maybe I'll just actively try to stop ross next time. That might make it more fair for the remaining players.
3. Board Game: Metropolys [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:238]
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Max 25
Jeff C. 29
Ken 31
Todd 52

First time playing for all of us. I think I won because the other guys let me get away with murder. My secret goal cards were blue and completing bridges so I just focused on getting the blue regions connected to a bridge and then later completing the bridge.

The end game kind of snuck up on us. We thought it ended when everyone ran out of buildings or the board was full. Jeff was looking through the rules and noticed it ended when 1 player was out of buildings. I only had 2 left at the time (4 and 5). Jeff was saving up most of his buildings to do a final rush at the end when everybody else was out. He quickly changed tactics and got most of his buildings out before my last 2 could be played.

Somehow I managed to win tallest building in 2 of the regions. I wasn't paying that much attention to it. Everyone else only won 1 region.
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Alas, this shall be a GenCon game for me I suppose. If I can find a spare copy sitting around anywhere.

It did at least sound unique. Not too much coming out that looks like that.
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I want to try this at Gencon, too, Shea, maybe we can get in a game together.

(PS, congrats on your Games on the Table interview, Shea!)
4. Board Game: Tribune: Primus Inter Pares [Average Rating:7.38 Overall Rank:153]
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Ross - W s(?) *scribble*
Dave K.
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Zoe

I know Ross won this game. I think that's what these strange markings mean, but I may be missing something.
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Yes, Ross won. It was my first game,and Chris and Zoe's, too. I made the mistake of spending WAYYYYYYY too much effort trying to get the tribune. Zoe made a mistake too, some rule she misunderstood, but I can't remember what, something to do with the Vestal Virgins. I also thought for some reason that the laurels looked like they would be really hard to get 8 of, but apprently not so much.

An interesting game - Ross had 4 victory conditions and I think the rest of us had either 1 or none. There's more conflict in this than in most worker placement games. Not sure if I'd like it for the long term, themed set collection games seem to turn me off somewhat (so sick of Shadows over Camelot, for instance), but I want to give it another try or two before I make up my mind.
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The "scribble" I believe is that Ross won with "4" conditions met.
In this game, the first person to meet a certain number of conditions before the rest of the table wins.
Unless of course, more than one person meets the same number of conditions on a turn, then you would go to a tiebreaker based on VPs for accomplishing certain things in the game.

Still not sure about this game.
I love most worker placement mechanic games, but this one has yet to really grab me deep down.

Will try a few more times, but unless something really starts to click for me, this one is headed for the trade pile.
5. Board Game: Felix: The Cat in the Sack [Average Rating:6.72 Overall Rank:462]
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Denise 39
Chris 27
Zoe 40
Dave K. 43
Ross 56

I believe there was a forgotten rule in this game. Something about the bank having limited money I think.
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Yup - if the bank doesn't have enough money to fill all the cards, you are supposed to NOT fill them with poker chips, like we did! :) Changed the game a little, but the base of the game is still player psychology, so not horribly much. Would have been better if we'd played the correct rules.
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Fun filler, great artwork.
6. Board Game: Tikal [Average Rating:7.43 Overall Rank:79]
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Morgan 94
Brent 117
Kevin 111

Those look like some really high scores. Of course, I think I've only played this game 4 player. I don't know if they played the auction variant or not.
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They look about normal to me. I've only played 2-player though, and it goes even higher with only 2.
7. Board Game: Tsuro [Average Rating:6.47 Overall Rank:693]
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Kevin 1 win 1 tie
Morgan 1 loss 1 tie

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8. Board Game: Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear! - Russia 1941-1942 [Average Rating:8.09 Overall Rank:34]
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Game 1 Game 2
Mike 3 Shawn 5
Shea 6 Shea 6

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If Shea brings it along, I wouldn't mind getting in a game of this at Gencon or the next weekly meeting.
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jcurtis55 wrote:
If Shea brings it along, I wouldn't mind getting in a game of this at Gencon or the next weekly meeting.


I'd be happy to Jeff. It really doesn't take too long to knock off a scenario.
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The game with Mike was definitely a learning game. Shawn watched that one, so the follow up match was pretty evenly matched. It came down to our last activations on the last turn, so you can't ask for much more than that.
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Was it fun?
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McGuit wrote:
Was it fun?


Jury's Out.
9. Board Game: San Marco [Average Rating:7.28 Overall Rank:152]
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Max 90 - won tie breaker
Dave K 90
Shawn 80
Dave D 80

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Classic!
Just a great game.
Along with El Grande the absolute pinnacle of "area control" games.
Too bad this took so long to hit the table after I got it in a trade.
Have to play this one a lot more.

On the eternal question of should this only be played 3 player or does it work with 4 ..... my opinion is that San Marco is best when played with 3, but 4 was not as bad as I expected it to be.

Still fun, but I'm probably only going to play it with 3 if I can help it at all.

Along with Union Pacific this is one of the best games that Alan Moon has ever created.
It's a real shame that both are OOP with no real chance of being reprinted.

Has secured a permanent place in my collection.
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10. Board Game: Giganten [Average Rating:6.86 Overall Rank:456]
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Brian 111,000
Jeff C 107,000
Ken 76,500 (tie breaker)
Diane 76,500

Whoever wrote the scores for this game down would have won the "neatest handwriting in the group" award, but you left off an 'n' in the game title.
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I gues thatt woul be mee who can't spel.

In all seriousness, I enjoyed this game. There is definitely a luck factor, and it possible for a player to get very unlucky and get smaller oil fields, but they auctions can be quite tense. Definitely worth some more play.
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A very good game, lots going on, but it all interacts very nicely. I'd be willing to play this again, probably several times. There is some luck, but the auctions are more important than the draw.
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Jeff, bring this one to GenCon.
I'd really like to try it if we get the chance.
11. Board Game: Race for the Galaxy [Average Rating:7.98 Overall Rank:13]
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Shawn 28
Dave K. 30

So Dave, what does "consume" mean? :p

They played the simplified 2 player game choosing only 1 role instead of 2. I think I was only asked 3-4 questions the whole game. 1 of which was strategy related (Why would anyone play destroyed world?). Hopefully this means they are understanding the game better.
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I'll believe it when I here Dave explain consume to someone :P
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Isamoor wrote:
I'll believe it when I here Dave explain consume to someone :P


How dare you doubt me.... Consume means when you have a soup made of a clear broth.... Right....?

:D
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No, no, no - a consume is what kids wear on Halloween when they go trick or treating, right?
12. Board Game: Kingsburg [Average Rating:7.26 Overall Rank:142]
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Ross 52
Todd 48
Kevin 31

We did things a bit different this game and only added the points for buildings at the end of the game. I tried an embassy rush strategy, getting the embassy the first part of year 3 (I think). I spent a good chuck of resources and 2 pt doohickeys to the town hall and was really close to 30 points before counting the buildings. Unfortunately, I was the only player to lose the final monster battle which cost me my newly built wizard guild which was enough to lose the game.

Ross went with a farm/merchant guild, then wizard guild, then top row strategy. Kevin went military (I think he's scared of the monsters) eventually building a fortress, but I think it only took effect in 2 battles.

Ross got a bit lucky the first year getting the emissary since everyone was tied on buildings and he had the fewest resources. After that, Kevin kept winning the emissary but would forget to use him before losing him.
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How did that work with counting the building points only at the end? Did it speed up gameplay or not, would you do it that way again?
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Denise wrote:
How did that work with counting the building points only at the end? Did it speed up gameplay or not, would you do it that way again?
I have no idea if it sped game play up or not. We were pretty lax on turn structure taking resources and buying building nearly simultaneously.

It was nice not having to worry about building points. Had a bad habit of forgetting them in the last game. The down side is that it gave a false sense of who was winning and by how much. Some of that is the result of Ross's and mine differing strategies. Most of my points came from the town hall and embassy. Ross's mostly came from buildings. It looked like I had a huge lead of 30 to 10, but I barely had 10 pts in buildings while Ross had close to 40.

I think it was easier this way, but not necessarily better. I haven't decided yet whether to keep doing things that way or not.
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Thanks for doin' the list Todd. I had a good time, (even playing Stone Age :P )

I thought you were making it to GenCon via the game rental deal? Did I mix that up?
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Todd, don't worry, I think I at least will be willing to play Agricola for some time yet. I've had three games so far and feel like I'm only just getting started with it.
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Todd,
Great list again!
Really appreciate your efforts.

Don't be worried.
Think we are going to be playing Agricola for a long time in the group.
See you after the show.
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