Sweden isn't the only country where this game is very easy to get. I bought my own copy from here in Finland for about 4US$. I didn't even realize that Ave Caesar is a collector's item until I browsed through the BGG's Marketplace the other day

I got my copy of Q-Jet from topdecker here on the Geek, which is the same game as Ave Caesar, just rethemed. It's a sweet little game!

Oct, 2006. Sniped for a tad over $26.00 (+$15.00 s/h) from Germany. Original Ravensburger.

Then I started looking through the files here on BGG, and realized that I could print & play my own copy...then I did.

Not so much of a grail anymore, as it has been reprinted as Q-Jet in Japan, and reprinted by Cafe Games in the US.

NO LONGER A GRAIL GAME (reprint)

1-08-2007

This was the last of the White Wind games that I needed to finish my set. From all accounts, it was the best one of the series (but I still prefer Santa Fe), and I couldn't find one. I finally won an auction (first and only one that I have seen) for (mumble, mumble) dollars. Let's just say that it's my most expensive one yet. And to add insult to (financial) injury, Elfengold came out before I tried the White Wind copy. So I still haven't played Elfenroads!

Happy Gaming,
Scott

Isn't this the same as Rio Grande's King of the Elves?

No this is a different game. Even different than the reprint of Elfenland by Amigo.

Don't got it.

I got about the last unused copy in the world (from Funagain, no less, after they got hold of some bankrupt stock). Its only problem is it takes 1 hour per player. But it's worth it! The board is also rather endearing since it contains a typo. It's also a much tougher layout than the Elfenland/Elfengold combo.

I just don't get to play it enough.

Did this go out of print? I bought it at my local game store here in Portland, OR about 2 years ago.

Bought it when it was cheap and in-print. I still prefer playing without the jump. I think it makes for a better overall race. With the jump, inevitably a couple people just cannot make it, and get stuck. No fun.

I could not find Carabande, so I bought Pitch Car, and I loved it...

It was the high cost of the Action Set that made me decide to buy PitchCar instead of Carabande. I have played both Carabande and PitchCar and the only regret I have in picking PitchCar is absence of the chicanes found in the Action Set (which I prefer to the chicanes found in the first PitchCar extension). I wish that Ferti would release a PitchCar extension that has the x and y chicanes. I am almost to the "make them myself" stage of things... if I was more sure of my dremel skills I would have already made an attempt to make them.

got this one too. with base game. game is so much liked by my nephew that I had to buy him a copy as well.

I wouldn't buy the first expansion now. I played a game with both base sets and thought it was much better than with the expansion. the jump is fun at first but almost impossible to execute well three times in a row.

Sorry about the ex-girlfriend thing. It's the downside of having a collection that it can be used against you like that. I hope she didn't destroy anything else.
2nd edition Talisman was a grail for me, too. I got one in shrinkwrap on eBay for a little under $100.

Challenge to Grailhood? New version scheduled for oct, 2007!

updated 1-09-2007

As long as the system is tinkered with (as it will, inevitably), the existence of a fourth edition will not lessen the grail-hood of 2nd (or the (in my opinion) inferior 3rd edition, for that matter...).

I had second edition with all the expansions, but a leak in my closet from a flood resulted in the loss of this, Ambush, and Fast Food Franchise. I think I most mourn the loss of FFF, but Talisman was a favorite dating back to my college days in the early '80's.

one upside of game collecting is if your house is ever broken into your games are safe. they'd walk right by a mint war in europe to get that $99 DVD playa

What a great game! It is my most requested game night event. Quick to learn, quick to play and a lot of fun. Find it, you won't regret it.

Got it. Love it.

This is truly a great game, but it has lost some of its "collectible" status with its re-release as "I'm the Boss!"

Also de-grailed

My wife Kasey had played this at one of the early Unity Games gatherings and loved it. After pining for it for a couple years, she finally told me that we should secure a copy, and that she thought it was worth up to about eighty dollars or so. The reprint was announced before I was able to locate a copy, and we got that instead. She still loves it!

Oh, you should. It's a very worthwhile game, satisfyingly cutthroat. And it's great fun to stack up the building pieces, too.

Big Boss is one of the smallest games that is clearly both game and furniture. Most furniture-games are large, like billiards or crokinole, but Big Boss is like a little armoire...

Jim

One just sold on eBay for $381.00.

To continue the story, Aldie did acquire another copy, unpunched/in shrink, which was opened at BGG.con 2006, only to find that two of the "flagpoles" were missing (perhaps I should take this under advisement for all of my games that I keep in the shrink...) I played it, and I'm excited to hear that there are talks of a reprint. Even if the bits aren't as fancy as those in the Kosmos version, if they're at least as nice as the tiles in the Hasbro Acquire, I'll be happy.

I own a copy in shrink. Not sure if i will open it. If I like acquire I probably will.

Tell now!

I managed to win this the only I played it by putting a string of petrol pumps across my plot and just selling the petrol everyone else refined! They spent time, trouble and money drilling and refining, and just kept flooding the market with cheap petrol. But by running six petrol stations diagonally across my plot, I could constantly buy from the market and sell through to the public. By the time they twigged this and started building their own petrol stations, I'd built enough capitol and simply sold my assets to win.
I'd still like a copy though.

I just don't get this one. I played it once many years ago and found it very lacking.

***UPDATE*** I recently traded away THIS and "Pirateer" in order to obtain '1'-EACH of 'Oldenberg Grenadiers' "Saratoga, 1777" and "Camden, S.C., 1780" BOTH of which are in pristine and UNpunched conditions! Not a bad deal, eh?

One early version of the English rules translation left out one critical word: "red". When you roll doubles, the price of gas on the consumer market goes up five red dots (not just five dots.)

This is one reason many people don't like McMulti. Five dots isn't enough.

Got it for a bargain of 53€ at ebay (blue Hexagame box)

Have you tried this one as a two-player game? I've decided that I mostly dislike the game for more than two, but it can be a lot of fun (and not too long, either) for two. If you still don't like it with two, then I'd sell it, if I were you. But then I rarely keep games that I don't actually enjoy playing. If depends what kind of collector you are, I guess.

I have a dog-eared, but complete, copy of the AH version. A couple friends had the original, silk-screened edition that (TSR? Trampier?) published. That's a real object d'art for gamers!

If you have this game and don't like it, try selling it on ebay. One went the other day for $141.50. I would have bid for it but 100 was already too much for me.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...

I still play this and have my AH version plus two shrinkwrapped copies I got from Amazon. I want to always have a copy.

Reprinted by Valley Games. Readily available.

You probably won't like this game. You should give it to me.

Got it for 96€, there's another one running on ebay, still 6 days to go, allready at 40€!!!

I gave up ever finding it for an affordable price. I found the computer version instead. And that was Free!

Just got it - whoohooo!

This is the one game I ever got stiffed on in an ebay sale from Germany. They said they got the money and shipped it. That was 8 years ago and I'm still waiting. Luckily I found another copy a few years later. It was complete but had a small tear on the lid. Oh well, better that than nothing. I keep my old 5 1/4 inch IBM floppy disks with the rules in the game box for posterity.

ya, this is one i would really like to play.

ah well.

OK, I gotta say, LOL! What goes around goes away. It is now very out of print, and goes for $250 for $275 on eBay. Amazing. Fortunately, I was around to get one in 2003 when they were available.

How 'bout 201€... That's the price I got an unpunched 3rd edition for!

OK, this is as good a place for history as anywhere.

As of September, 2006, the reprint of the 3rd Edition (2nd Printing) is out for about $90 at Boards and Bits. It is bound to be out of print again soon. I bought a back up copy while I could. Lets see what happens over the next few years.

Side note: I got Antiquity as well. I posted a question "Should I buy this? I have not played it." The general response was, "Dude. Buy it. Play it. If you do not like it, sell it for $400 in a few years. What's the decision?"

Antiquity is now also out in the 2nd edition. However they changed the box so I must get a 2nd edition copy of Antwiquity too...

Yes, the Mayfair edition of this game was a grail for me, also. I picked up Simply Cosmic and More Cosmic Encounter from Mayfair easily. I finally got the original set in a trade, after losing enormous bids on eBay. This is one game I don't think I'll ever give up. (Not to mention it's a great game.) Will the curse ever be broken? Can a company produce Cosmic Encounter and not stop!?

Still ranks as a grail - the Eon or Mayfair editions have not been equaled by newer editions.

In my possession;

Eon edition in the large box with all expansions.

Mayfair edition as well as More Cosmic Encounter.

Hasbro edition and its expans... well, nothing more, really.

Best. Game. Ever.

I think the upcoming FFG version will relegate all previous ones to oblivion.

Once the expansions for the base game are out, then the FFG version will be superior, not until then.

I have this game But i didnt think to much of this game? Is it actully worht something?

Got it, love it, play it, etc.

Had it a while back. Never found anyone to play it with. Now sold.

What Cranky said.

NO LONGER A GRAIL GAME (reprinted as Colossal Arena)

1-08-2007

Want it.

got it.

A friend praised it a while back and i got it on ebay then. It sat on my shelf for 2 or 3 years untill last month, when we finally decided to go for it, read the rules and played it. It was an astounding fun and I'm sure it will hit the play table more often now. javascript:emoticon(document.MESSAGEFORM.body,'')

Magalon is a grail game? How come I got one for $25 or something similar?